Do NOT contribute to open source | Prime Reacts 

Gotta watch the mustache- the only true way to tell

The moustache is the only real proof.

Literally my wife was walking past and saw my screen and was like, "Are you watching a guy watching himself??"

Maybe he shoulda kept the blue hair

there's no way. He does not write unit tests.

I might be starting at a new company soon and I know the first thing I'll do is automate the year change on their copyright

The copyright notice is there to tell you when a work was created. It is not there to tell you what the current year is. Everybody already knows what the current year is. If you are blindly updating copyright notice years just because it’s a new year, you’re screwing up (and causing your copyright notice to be invalid in the USA, equivalent to no notice at all). Copyright notices aren’t required anyway, creative works are automatically copyrighted. If you are going to update your footer, just take the notice out altogether.

@@LengCPP It's best not to automate too much. If management realizes how much less work you could be doing you'll automate yourself out of a job.

interesting, I assumed the year told you when the copyright is active. I read up on it thanks @@qic

It's a important job and someone has to do it, and that someone is you 😅. You trolled them like a boss

Yes

I don't think I spend more than a few cents per coffee daily.

@@VojtaJavoraEvery penny counts

@@VojtaJavora Coffee in the US is expensive

Good idea

then the netflix docu-series about the feature-length film

Wow, thats awesome!

Can you send the link to the feature ?

@@chindianajones3742 thanks!

Money

@@DrachensingsangCorrect.

In any jungle competition (for self promotion, jobs, etc), gaming the system is the optimal strategy. Unfortunately, this will come at the expense of relevancy and usefulness.

In other words, there are no good measures, therefore there is no way to evaluate anything and therefore no way to know if something is better or worse than something else.

@@SilkCrownin other words, the target not the measure.. how do you miss the point so badly

This is the way. Solving the problems you run into and hope it helps others and the project as a whole.

Minecraft's modding community is great in this regard, I did the same for a mod that fixes how Minecraft's cursor works in textboxes with shortcuts like ctrl + left and ctrl + right, I made that mod work with the equivalent shortcuts for macOS, and it makes things a lot easier when writing commands on mac

I contributed some code to Bukkit to add the tab completion API, and to Refined Storage to prevent lag when large numbers of heterogeneous items are in the inventory (think enchanted damaged bows from mob grinders). Somehow, this is a lot easier to me than going through with a project of my own; I have to have both a good vision and the strength to follow it through, whereas with things I'm already using, I can just go "oh this feature is missing and it's really bugging me, let me throw it in there". That said I do have plenty of projects of my own, but they fizzle out all the time because motivation is hard.

Very excellent example of doing OSS contributions right. I run Cobblemon and a lot of the support we get in coding is just helpful issue fixes that save me and my team time investigating, clearly things that were bothering the person and they chose to take action. Minecraft modding is a factory producing new developers and its effectiveness grows with the ratio of open sourced projects in the ecosystem. Crazy what people can do when working on something they think is cool.

This is the way.

Then it's rejected because it doesn't 'align with the maintainer vision' and mysteriously one of the maintainer's friends fixes the exact issue a week later because because almost all projects are a good ole' boys club

@@whistler9 Depends on the project, but yeah lol

​@@bluesillybeardYou win some. You lose some.

@@whistler9 Just fork it and fix it

Applicable to all things

I understood this 27 years ago and have never worked in my life ever since. All my work is my hobby that i love.

Is that on a public forum? I enjoy a good rant.

@@joelazaro461 It's not and unfortunately I don't have access to the original text, my memory dump in OP contains the memo minus all the slurs🤭.

nice pfp, the spray from 1.6 :)

@@Luzum IIRC it's from 1.4 (:

@@chupasaurus true. I just remember it from 1.6 since that was my era

Because the industry is oversaturated with junior devs and hire one senior dev is effectively a better choice than hire five junior devs

A good way to learn is creating your own (possibly open source) projects, and that's how you're "intended" to learn in their eyes. Me and most of my friends in Uni did that to varying degrees. You won't have to pick and possibly annoy existing open source projects. You're free to learn what you want, and jump ship quickly if it doesn't work out. The only big problem is time - we did it during uni time, because our uni workload (and social support system in germany) made it possible to do own projects next to studying. Yeah most of these projects, maybe all, will be small scope, but it gives you the ability to learn at your own pace, and if you present it with a few images or a video on a simple homepage, anyone else the ability to see what you can already do on your own.

@@iskb6766 But a common problem I am seeing from a good chunk of senior devs is that they are wasting their time doing junior dev work as well because of this exact reason and junior devs won't become skilled senior devs without getting hired and trained. It might cost a bit of time and money to train people, but that is how you keep an industry healthy. A lot of industries overall seem to be forgetting this lesson recently.

Not a new problem but it slowly gets escalated. Last year I've seen usually 2+yoe on entry level jobs but 2024 3+yoe. Im fine with whole "wishlist" thing, but you already know that the success rate is lower for anyone that wants to start a career

@@iskb6766 You can't afford the senior dev with the skillset of 5. Nobody can. They're enjoying their early retirement.

I've never heard or read that junior devs should contribute to open source. But I'm not really informed about open source because I don't care about it, so maybe that's a thing. The advice I always give is to work on and finish personal projects.

Keep in mind that this is true for most jobs, not just Dev. Would you ask a plumber in his first day at work to fix your pipes, or would you rather have someone experienced?

@@HyperionStudiosDE depends on where you are. Where I live, every local cs RU-vidr and their mom is telling you to contribute to open source.

Sadly, most "HOW you use the project" are shit.

😂

Whats your github username

thats because you use ts xD

Careful what you wish for

link

some of my best work there

Agree... but would also have accepted "...is a lifestyle choice".

Same here. Its refreshing

Sure, but I think both Theo and Prime expressed great educated perspectives that the OP would benefit from. The people that was disrespectful or just recommended typescript should be ignored, 'cause those opinions are unhelpful. But had OP just limited him/herself to chatgpt, he/she would never have access to the good opinions.

@@nopnop4790 but they are locked behind 45 minutes of reactions? and hundreds of unhelpful comments?

Gotta work with what you have available, if your only choices are pure JS or TS... easy choice to me

@@Pico141 yes ts for sure

@@Pico141 PureScript and Elm are both viable alternatives. Then again, I don't use massive front end frameworks like React or Vue or etc.

typescript is an improvement of javascript, you can't just compare it to golang or C# like it's another random language

You mean stronly typed like Ruby and Python? I cannot begin to describe how often people talking about strong typing while meaning strict typing.

We’re just lucky he’s still here… I would have moved to a non extradition country rather than colour my hair blue.

can someone aware me on the blue hair?

@Intense011 it said he lost a bet on the video where he recorded having blue hair

Since when are puke and alcohol fueled violence are perceived so negatively?

I guess MarDataGras, Cinco++de mayo fest and Str.Paddy's day fest will be similarly bad. Americans who drink love to "celebrate" other culture's holidays 🙄

its the basis of that site

Yeah, Reddit doesn't typically work for it's own purpose.

To varying degrees that happens in all online forums. And sometimes even in face to face conversation. Enter the reason we have the sarcastic turn of phrase, "What does that have to do with the price of beans in Denmark?"

The second rule of open source is that you never allow anyone else to contribute

​@@JLarkythe third rule is, Dont open source

See here I thought that the first rule to open source was not to push an update that breaks the build.

Is not capitalism, it’s free market! There is no free meal!

If you contributed for the first time - you have to make a pull request.

It's the orphanage story all over again. "Rabbi, I realized I wanted to build an orphanage for ego, so I decided not to build it" "Build it! The orphans won't care about your feelimg of self-importance". As long as the contribution is good and useful, no need to worry too much about your motives.

Imagine interviews for any other profession asking for verifiable proof that you're actively volunteering. Not to say that volunteering for something you're passionate about isn't good, but you're not hiring me to do volunteer work, and I would want to be evaluated on how well I would be able to contribute to your organization rather to other random projects. It can be a solid part of a resume. It shouldn't be a required part of a resume.

I’ve re-written stale open source projects for clients so that they work with, for example, the current version of React. Imagine if I made a PR back into the repo and my employer saw the code they had paid me to write now being open source.

@@ness-ee It really sucks that this code you've rewritten could benefit a lot more people at no extra cost to the client, but there's still this hesitancy.

It takes time even as someone with a traditional degree background where the steps are laid out for you.. if you’re going the self taught route don’t put a time expectation on it. You stating what you don’t get is a big step; now just focus in on that. Look into makefiles and how gcc works; docs are everywhere on that stuff. Also start some sample c projects on your own where you have to write Makefiles with flags and compile them. You’ll get there eventually if you are consistent; but again, do not put a time expectation on this, you get it when you get it.

Don't worry, it is hard but a lot of it is experience/building knowledge. Design patterns (as much as I hate that description), but basically knowing how to tackle different problems, why the approach is bad/good (i.e, you will learn way more of this by building/maintaining your own software and learning the hard way). So don't give up :)

Had a professor in college, who used to work on SUSE, told us there are parts of the Linux code base that only a handful of people in the world fully understand. He said portions of the code are very complex.

You just described my experience. I'm a Platform Engineer with +5 years in the area, did CS. And first time I saw the Kurbernetes code I didn't even understood the issues opened, i didnt even passed by the issues that they want to solve.

You don't need to fix bugs to be able to contribute, add docs and create high quality issues also count. You mentioned you know some Spring Boot, why don't you try to solve a issue in spring boot repo which you might be more familiar with.

Meh, open source is just code that is...open. It's nothing special or something to be "respected". If working on open source is just a means to an end for someone who cares.

​@@tbunreall well, usually it's not just the person contributing that spends time on this, but also a maintainer or other main contributors. So submitting shit code wastes time of other people. Which is especially nasty if those people do it for free or for cheap. But if you submit good code with ulterior motives, then yes, who cares. But the OP was complaining aboit companies requiring that, not beginner devs doing that for a job.

So many WPF calculator apps

Some of it is quite horribly written too lol.

​@@firetruck988how do you write better? I'm a scientist so my frame of reference for thinking is different

​​@@kiwikemist it's a huge topic. Like "how to write better novels". But you can google "clean code", "kiss principle", "single responsibility in coding", that would be a good start. Frankly half of the learning is seeing how beautiful good code of others is, and the other half is getting angry at yourself for writing incomprehensive code a week ago and now spending half an hour on trying to understand it, add comments, rename variables to something that will be easily understandable later etc. In math-related scientific articles you have whole paragraphs of context around the equation with single-letter variables; in programming if you use a single letter variable, it's either temporary (usually an iterator), or comes from amath equation, everything else is one or max two actual words. Comments are usually short and to the point. Basically, good code is one that you can understand at a glance. (Sometimes it isn't possible, but usually is).

@@kiwikemist Yeah, that other guy explained it pretty well. I was specifically thinking of complex inheritance trees that require you to navigate 10 different files to understand what's going on.

Which is obviously not true

I mean, look at Blender? Doesn't seem that doomed. Krita neither. Even a little Aseprite, when the author decided to drop GPL, got forked under Godot's main dev name, then gained an actual maintainer and I think it has two people working on it now as LibreSprite. In Krita I guess not being related to webdev probably saves us from being drowned during hacktoberfest. In fact I didn't even know about it, especially as a problem. There are only some spam proposals to GSOC every now and then.

When Prime recorded this, the original video was released by Theo 1 day ago. He probably didn't want to release it right after Theo as to not syphon views from the original creator on RU-vid (in this case Theo). But yes, I'm chanting "always blue, always blue" as we speak.

Why would people quit doing that if that's what gets them the attention

same here, i went to a bootcamp rather than a college, but i had a little self taught experience under my belt. playing around with the basic programing on the TI84 calculator, later a bit of lua in computercraft. taking a webmastering elective in highschool, then a java class as a senior. I knew by then that I loved programing, I loved the satisfaction of solving a problem with logic and code. But I lacked in my own inspiration for ideas of what to build next to further my growth. I also just thrive better in a more structural environment anyway to guide my focus. But the boot camp I attended was really helpful as project after project there was something new to learn, and at the same time building out a portfolio of all the things i can do and what personal problems I've solved to show in interviews. Something else I think was helpful as a learning exercise, and fun as a challenge, would be to take something existing, and then try to replicate it in whole or in part. A classmate and I learned a bunch about dom manipulation by each making a jquery clone, and then we could compare to each other, as well as to the original and discuss the thought process behind our decisions. It was also a lot of fun ^_^

congratulations!! I will love to be your friend dear as well. as sharing some ideas which you're benefiting.

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Thanks to Angelia m Brown

I'm surprised that this name is being mentioned here, I stumbled upon one of his clients testimonies on CNBC news last week....

No doubt she's very good, I started with 5k and cashed out 40k after 1 weeks. I still wonder how she got her analysis

I can speak on this from the other side and I can give you some insights. When I first started programming I was mentored by a wide range of people and they were experienced developers but everybody was new to this little game called Minecraft in 2011. We were all motivated to make mods for Minecraft and all of us had time enough to talk and help people coming into the modding scene after. I think the reason why your programming or trying to learn programming can extend that motivation to keep learning it or keep teaching it an extreme amount. I was learning how to program by creating mods for a game that we were all playing so when I would ask a question about programming to one of the clearly senior modders and programmers it never felt like the tedious nonsense instead it was just helping a modder out try to create something cool

#2 was my initial thought as well. As the years have gone by, there's been less and less interest in _receiving_ mentorship. Instead, too many programmers just want you to tell them what to do. Forget about the how or the why or anything that's important. Just tell them what to do so they can go fail at doing it, then come back to you saying it's impossible, after which you end up having to do it for them. There's no value to these individuals. And yet they still manage to find a way to get a job.

agreed. it can also be a mark of laziness - a lot of lazy developers refuse to learn typescript or even some basic jsdoc and end up writing garbage code with 10x more bugs than there would have been if it was typescript. debugging the code is much more difficult because you have to do all the work of the compiler in your own head just to figure out what some variable is - because one lazy developer couldn't be bothered to use a serious language. at this point you should be using typescript or you should be somewhere else. we need to stop with these plain javascript libraries and packages

Typescript has a learning curve. AFAICT OP was just trying to jump into a project they were already qualified to work on given the language familiarity they already have. There are plenty of projects out there that aren't typescript based. The issue is someone tricked this person into believing this is the only way to get a job. Its not

ah i see what they are cooking...