Do PHEVs work for long journeys ? - 2021 Kia Sorento 4 PHEV

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I filmed this one a couple of months ago. How much stuff can you get in the Kia Sorento and can that include a bike ? I then needed to drive to Cornwall with both pups. A great way to find out how good the Kia Sorento 4 P|HEV is on a long journey but I also wanted to see how the fuel economy suffers when you aren't able to charge over night and have to complete a long journey.
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@paulhunter205 3 года назад

Great review. Best use of PHEV EV range on long trips is to use EV on the urban/back roads and "HEV only" on main roads. Save the battery for the first & last few miles. Trip reset on re-fuelling is an optional user setting that can be changed in the config menu.

@niceboy60 Месяц назад

@@paulhunter205 what happens if you need to use the Heater or the Aircon ?

@tonycluley7544 3 года назад

I have a KIA Optima SW hybrid which has an electric range of 35 miles. I top it up every night to fully make use of the electric range. I recentlt went to York fully loaded and averaged 59 mpg-petrol only! The combined range at the moment is over 100mpg as most of my driving is in electric mode. I am really like it as it has all the creature comforts I need.

@PetrolPed 3 года назад

Nice 👍

@colinbarber1957 3 года назад

Totally agree about Hybrids, it’s how you use them. I’ve been using them for 7 years and they work for me massively. If I was a rep doing high miles, buy a diesel. One little tip, if your journey is a mixture of motorways and cities, use the electric in the cities and the petrol engine on the motorways. That way the petrol engine is not working hard stop starting in the city, but on the motorway it’s at a constant speed and not revving hard. That way your getting better fuel economy, took me 4 years to work that one out !

@PetrolPed 3 года назад

Nice 👍

@smallmj2886 Год назад

I love taking my Prius Prime on long trips. I may not get the phenomenal mileage that I do on short trips, but the mileage is still very, very good. Some people say that PHEV's are no good for people who take long journeys, but they are way better than gas only vehicles. They may not be better than HEV's for long trips, but when I was buying here in Canada the rebates on the PHEV Prius Prime brought it down to a similar cost as an HEV Prius. That made it a no-brainer to go for the PHEV over the HEV.

@landl190372 2 года назад

Journey profile and charging daily is the key for PHEVs. If your daily commute is within the electric range, and you commit to charging daily, it's perfect. You get the benefits of an electric vehicle without the expense of the full size battery. Can't be bothered charging or regularly doing long journeys, then you're much better off with a regular combustion vehicle. I bought a Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV at the point where my Range Rover was costing £125 to fill up, and I've never looked back. It's like driving for free in comparison.

@PetrolPed 2 года назад

Yep. Exactly 👍

@richslaney 3 года назад

Impressed with how quiet and smooth and comfortable the Sorento looks.

@PetrolPed 3 года назад

It is all of those things 👌

@bertie1989 3 года назад

Thanks for this upload, the first video I have seen of a real life long distance test in a Phev. I previously owned a C-HR hybrid and frankly on the motorway the MPG was shocking so pleased some PHEV’s perform significantly better as my next car might be a plug in hybrid

@wilsonroofer Год назад

I just picked up my new honda civic ehev from cardiff. 4.5 hour journey back on A/B roads most of the way and got over 65mpg. Absolutley made up with it. Only used quarter of a tank back up to liverpool. You really need to try one. Best car iv driven in years

@garethedwards2883 3 года назад

The look from the pup was " What are you going on about and get that camera out of my face", love it :)

@PetrolPed 3 года назад

LOL 😂

@garrycroft4215 3 года назад

Potential PHEV owners need to be made to watch this vlog. My story started almost 6 years ago in a Mitsubishi PHEV that I had for 3 years and 30,000 miles. I got an incredible 105 MPG (75 MPG after the price of electricity) but I charged it every day and during the day. However if you don't do this you will obviously get less MPG than a none PHEV version (maybe 30 MPG) In fact Mitsubishi told me that if you do 100 or more miles a day then buy the diesel version.

@PetrolPed 3 года назад

Interesting 👍

@garrycroft4215 3 года назад

@@PetrolPed there's something more interesting.. The battery degradation is awful from 32 miles to 22 miles. There is a good reason why this happens.. Every time you charge to the real 100% I know this because there is no break regeneration until you have done a few miles. This of course will destroy the batteries. Other EVs don't give you access to 100% so when it says 100% it's not, proof because regeneration still works fine. And the batteries don't get hammered.

@Vonklieve 3 года назад

Important thing was your passengers had a lovely safe trip in that vehicle. Seemed very relaxed and content , the Petrol Pooches.

@PetrolPed 3 года назад

They sure did 👍

@radiorestorationbydale3535 12 дней назад

I fully agree....I have an MG HS PHEV, very economical around town, where the electric drive shines, but doing a 400km trip from Perth to Albany in Western Australia, once the EV battery is drained, and it's a highway with no variation in the 110kmh speed, it's just a 1.5 litre petrol car. Summary: great in city and suburbs but if used for mainly highway use, no real benefit, just buy the petrol only version as a lot cheaper. Also I'd add that driving on EV mode on a highway you will not achieve the 63 km claimed range ....it's more like 45 as no regenerative braking and wind resistance has a squared relationship to speed (double speed = 4x wind resistance) so motor is more heavily loaded

@chitpaul 3 года назад

I agree. Just done a London, Lands End and return this week, LKA, and adaptive cruise is great on a long run.

@sargfowler9603 4 месяца назад

I recently picked up a Seat Leon PHEV and drove it home 130 miles on motorway. Unfortunately, the EV battery was flat on departure, but it still achieved 55mpg on petrol only. The car coasts whenever possible, regens well and will use the electric motor whenever it can. Once charged I travel on short journeys around town and get 30-40 mile range for an 90p overnight charge. I really can't see any negatives about them. Definitely the way forward.

@damo5701 3 года назад

@19:52 At first I didn't think you gave a thank you wave but a quick rewatch and I just caught it. Good on you, so many drivers can't be bothered acknowledging other drivers when they do the right thing/helpful thing.

@PetrolPed 3 года назад

Always thank other drivers 👍

@CARfariPark 3 года назад

PHEVs are a good compromise for fear of range and charging but as an EV driver for the last 3 years, it's not difficult to make it work..... in fact check out my road trip to the coast in a VW ID3.

@itsfahys 3 года назад

Skipped the phev myself . Driving a full ev the past 5 years after coming from a Citroen DS4 EcoTec Diesel. The biggest thing that put me off a phev was the high cost of Maintenance as theyre really complicated with an Electric Motor, Petrol Engine , Battery and all the management systems that go with it. I did a lot of research before going full ev. All that extra weight makes them very inefficient compared to a bev. The Growing Charging Network should make people less nervous about range. I would like to see the Price of New EVs coming down though as I think the legacy manufacturers are keeping the prices high so it doesnt interfere with their legacy Car Sales. China is going to flood the market with Full Electric cars and as Sandy Munroe recently said the Big US and European manufacturers have no more than 5 years left otherwise theyll struggle to survive if they dont start switching to Full Electric cars now. Youve already got the MG/ZS ev in Europe and Xpeng are shipping their G3 and this week the Tesla like P7 has arrived in Norway. NEO have already opened Stores in Norway so it could be like the Japanese take over of the Car industry . Was watching Sandy Munroe on RU-vid and he said there are 300 EV Manufacturers in China.

@georgedaville4662 3 года назад

Been looking forward to this one Ped. I have always been sceptical about plug in hybrids, however, you have opened my eyes to the reality of living with one. The Kia looks a fantastic motor and is very well specced. Spacious, comfortable and quite economical for a vehicle of it’s size. You looked well chilled at the wheel, and the girls were mega-chilled. Really enjoyed that journey with you. PS also love a Doombar or two 🍺 Cheers Ped 🍻

@PetrolPed 3 года назад

Cheers George 👍

@nrschannel7088 3 года назад

You can change the settings for drive information resseting - to manual, automatically when car is parked, automatically when you refill.

@thelaserhive3368 3 года назад

I was all for going full electric for my daily drive, but wife wanted 4wd so we settled on a Countryman PHEV. We always plug in at home and now even take an extension lead on our holidays just in case the holiday cottage might have a suitable plug point we can get to for an overnight charge. Mini PHEV though only has a 3kW internal charger so to be honest public charging is a guilt trip. In the time it would take to charge the 10kWh battery pack of the Mini PHEV on a public charger you could fully charge three Teslas!

@PetrolPed 3 года назад

😂😂😂

@dangreasley7934 3 года назад

Great consumer review and agree I've had 2 PHEVs now and its all about keeping them charged. It's how they work to best effect. :)

@billyflanagan9657 2 года назад

Beautiful car but I like how my prius I can lie down in the back and sleep very comfortably. The seats when folded down are flat and level with the back

@CASFAN 3 года назад

Must say, the economy seems poor for a hybrid car. I know it’s a fair size car, but my M340i (which I know is smaller, but is still a decent size car) gets 40+ on a run. I suppose if you just do short trips in the Kia, it will be more economical, but you don’t really buy a car of that size and practically, to just drive around town. Must say, it doesn’t really stack up & make sense for me. Great video as always though.

@sydsnott5042 3 года назад

Yeah those huge vehicles like the sorento are just a joke in my mind. Only pillocks have them to drive in town/city centres. Ruddy ugly too.

@siraff4461 3 года назад

A couple of points - firstly you're comparing something the size of an X5 to a 3 series and secondly there is a trade off for that electric range which is weight. Your 3 might get 40+ on a run but it ain't getting 100+ on sub 20 mile runs. Plug-ins are designed to do the daily runs on mostly or all ev then offset some of the distance on long trips. If you just want long trip mpg you're going to be much better off with a diesel.

@siraff4461 3 года назад

@@sydsnott5042 Big car baaad. Of course on most town runs its doing less harm than your 1.0l Fiesta (or whatever other similar sh1tbox you're judging others choices from) but you keep waving the flag against "waste"...

@popsbubbles1242 3 года назад

@@sydsnott5042 Some folk have children (and more than 2), I suppose they could buy two small cars and run them everywhere to keep the likes of you happy, Not.

@sydsnott5042 3 года назад

The sorrento is a damn ugly car and of a stupid size. @si raf I'm not comparing it to any car what so ever so where you got that from I've no idea. @ pops I know only to well families have none than 2 and 3 children. I've got 4 and 10 grandkids. Oh what type of car did I have for 4 kids? The Ford S Max which is smaller than the ugly beast yet holds as much. So get off your ruddy high horses you pillock lovers

@briangriffiths114 3 года назад

That Kia looks as good as anything the expensive high-end European brands can offer but for far less money.

@PetrolPed 3 года назад

It is 👍

@kezbanana8327 3 года назад

Took my A class PHEV down to bath a couple of weeks ago 3 hour each way trip. Managed to get 15% battery back

@MPCooke 3 года назад

Another well structured review Peter and what looks and feels like a cracking motor. I think the only things preventing the Sorento, other KIA models, the brand and other brands from this part of the world becoming mainstream in the UK are brand snobery and perceived status. If people look past the two aforementioned things and look at 'value' this becomes a 'no brainer' and will become even more so as EV's move into mainstream.

@PetrolPed 3 года назад

I agree. A few years ago they were poorly made with cheap materials. That is not the case anymore 😜

@TonyRodrigues63 3 года назад

Totally agree, " I think the only things preventing the Sorento, other KIA models, the brand and other brands from this part of the world becoming mainstream in the UK are brand snobbery and perceived status." I own a Kia XCeed, top of the range, this is my 3rd consecutive Kia, all from bran new, Excellent motors, cheap to run, Kia service is wonderful, much cheaper than Toyota for instance, cars very well equipped, even the basic of each model, other makes would be optional, the cars look stunning, as I keep saying: "I don't by badges, I use my money wisely, it will never be a choice, either a bran new car? or a holiday? NO!!! I will have both. Reliability? in 3 different Kias, never broke down, no faults, no worries and that's that.

@alicebailey4353 3 года назад

Just taken my hybrid Sorento to France and back including 1x miniature schnauzer and family of 4. Boot took the lot, very relaxing with auto cruise and lane assist (even on the 2)and car performed really well. Very similar to your story, including mpg. However I don't get as much electrical assistance on the shorter journeys....great review

@PetrolPed 3 года назад

Thanks Alice 🙏🏻 AND you have a Schnazuer 👏👏👏👏

@CarChatPodcast 3 года назад

I'm not gonna lie, that podcast is pretty great 🤣. I'm also considering a PHEV for the family car, seems to be a nice middle ground if you charge it all the time and are mostly shorter journeys.

@CarChatPodcast 3 года назад

Actually as pointed out below, do you even need a plug-in hybrid? A straight hybrid from Lexus/Toyota for example does a damn good job.

@PetrolPed 3 года назад

😂😂😂

@matthieunedelec3044 3 года назад

Greetings from the other side of the Channel! 🇫🇷. Great review, and a very useful insight on how the Sorento PHEV behaves on long journeys. Mine (on order with delivery expected early next Year) will have to cover similar journeys occasionally (5 hours trips) so I truly appreciate to know in advance how it is likely to behave. Can’t wait ! Thanks a lot for sharing this review (and also the previous one on the Sorento). 👍🏻

@PetrolPed 3 года назад

I’m glad you enjoyed it and enjoy the new car when it arrives 👍

@robmccarthy3737 3 года назад

Great Vid Ped - as a fellow Kia driver you should be able to change the trip computer record time in settings as I can on mine - unless they have changed it. Keep em coming!!

@PetrolPed 3 года назад

Thanks for letting me know 👍

@lotuselam 3 года назад

Always enjoy your video's, so jeal of the view! Keep them coming!!

@pmgsussex 3 года назад

I have a remaining concern about when PHEv's are used for shortish journeys just beyond the pure battery range. I think there could be problems if the ICE engine does not regularly reach full operating oil temperature which can typically take 5 to 7 miles of ICE continuous use. I admit this risk can be controlled by the selection of a pure ICE mode for such journeys. However, I wonder how many plug-in EV owners are that sophisticated and hence will never buy a plug-in EV second hand due to worry about excessive engine wear for mileage.

@siraff4461 3 года назад

Don't worry too much. There are plenty of engineers who are paid to make sure that doesn't happen. If the car needs to run it will unless you turn it off completely and if thats the case you would have been within ev range anyway.

@cylabhinc8672 3 года назад

I was told that this Sorento would warm up the gaz engine automatically to make sure it's ready to use when needed. I did a test drive and the gaz engine would start when you're asking for more power. So even if your battery is full charge, the gaz engine could be use for fast accelerations. I would think it would be a big issue in cold weather if your engine starts suddenly in cold conditions! Also, in cold weather, you would probably use the heating which will use the gaz engine. So your worrys are to be forgotten.

@manorbleak1 3 года назад

Polkirt Hill is always tricky.

@PetrolPed 3 года назад

It sure is 😬

@robins262 Год назад

Hi loved your video. I have the hybrid only version and can confirm your findings, it’s a super comfortable ride. Not sure if your car has a heads up display through the windscreen which i find immeasurably useful together with the indicator wing mirrors appearing in place of the dials. Well done Kia

@PetrolPed Год назад

Totally agree!

@johns14a 3 года назад

That's good mpg for a car that size and weight. As an everyday proposition I like it more and more.

@PetrolPed 3 года назад

An impressive car 👍

@kevincross9206 3 года назад

Any journey would be worth that view. You’re a lucky man 👍🏻. Had to chuckle when you were talking about Petrol Pup and Petrol Pooch snoring, as I had Domino and Prince (my staffies) replicating that! 🤣

@PetrolPed 3 года назад

I love hearing the dogs snore. Makes me laugh 😂

@bertt72 3 года назад

As a boy I used to fish in that harbour when living nearby. Now I'm an exile but don't miss the tourist ( Emmet) crowds :-)

@PetrolPed 3 года назад

We don’t tend to go down during the peak of the summer 👎

@bertt72 3 года назад

@@PetrolPed neither do we :-)

@fredtheted2259 3 года назад

It’s a holiday let though👎

@steveburland624 3 года назад

So much better than a fully electric car no range anxiety , probably as comfortable as anything twice the price also .👍

@domtdoodar99 3 года назад

Also still have to pay for fuel though, full ev would be much cheaper. 65mpg very impressive though for a big SUV!

@domtdoodar99 3 года назад

Just watched the rest, 39mpg ok

@PetrolPed 3 года назад

Unless you charged in public 🤔

@johnkeepin7527 3 года назад

A lot would depend on the balance of use, but one of the potential problems with PHEV ones is the relatively short ‘shelf life’ of E10 petrol. In some circumstances, one could end up with a tankful of out of date fuel.

@lordpetrolhead477 3 года назад

KTBFFH 👍

@davesutherland1864 3 года назад

Not sure I understand the premise of this video. A PHEV has electric range for running around town. For long trips it is just a hybrid car. Of course it is good for a road trip.

@DetroitMicroSound 3 года назад

That view is fabulous! ❤

@PetrolPed 3 года назад

Thank you 👍

@DetroitMicroSound 3 года назад

@@PetrolPed Worth a lot longer drive than 5 hours. 😉

@jamiep61 3 года назад

I enjoyed watching the Video. A popular choice with Caravan owners

@PetrolPed 3 года назад

Indeed 👍

@davetomley3145 3 года назад

Really interesting to see your review. I will be particularly interested in how the Tuscon Hybrid compares

@PetrolPed 3 года назад

Filming that review this week 👍

@seanausten758 3 года назад

Great vid again Pete. Deceptively spacious car by the looks of it. P.S. Lovely views of Mevagissy Harbour!!

@PetrolPed 3 года назад

It vast 😂

@sa59z 3 года назад

It resets the trip when you fill up and can be changed in the settings menu 👍 but the car has gone so that's not much use to you now 😅

@dorianjenneker 3 года назад

That Bianchi tracksuit top is ACE!

@PetrolPed 3 года назад

It my fav 👌

@charlesholder8009 3 года назад

I regret not being able to replace my 2005 Sorento. The best car I have ever owned for comfort, space, and long-distance driving.

@shanedavis9166 3 года назад

I have an 04 and know exactly what you mean. Mine will need to go at some point in the near future I think, but hopefully I can replace with a newer model.

@garethjohnson4105 3 года назад

Hi Ped. I have this car as well and I absolutely love it. I live in the Netherlands and I just recently took her on a long trip via ferry through Dunkirk to Dover then onwards to Birmingham, a whopping 8hr drive and it was fantastic. On the your point about the trip reset when the tank is refilled, I have found that this can be switched off via a setting in the setup menu. Hope this helps!

@spicjt 3 года назад

Hi Gareth, how was the MPG on this journey? I'm getting one and will do around 500miles a week and interested to se what the real world MPG is! Cheers

@neilbarden9430 3 года назад

Looking forward to doing that journey with the MINIs at the end of September!

@PetrolPed 3 года назад

I bet you are 👍

@damianleah6744 3 года назад

I am so pleased it’s not just me, regarding rattle noises in the car 🤣

@stevoone342 7 месяцев назад

Nice car. Im still umming and airing about hybrid. My only slight concern is for some one who is going to be buying a second hand one, and running for long term eg preséntale over 5yrs +. Is cost of pretentaly replacing the battery, also like ev cars is there an increase of tyre and brake wear due to the extra weight. Personally im leaning towards a 2020 bmw x5 d30 due owners say on journeys it easily gets 47mpg to 49mpg witch for a 3ltr inline 6 that’s amazing and you have some fun as well. But the hybrid version is still a consideration, and other cars like the Kia are also.

@jaicozzi2580 3 года назад

How funny, seeing you finish this video in Meva, we have a place a few doors down from you in Lower Well Park!

@PetrolPed 3 года назад

No way…neighbours 👍

@sayit1196 3 года назад

to be fair, every watt should be calculated at it's production cost not at the end point into the car ^^

@alex.konstantinov 3 года назад

Ohh, Doom Bar, the best amber ale with such a view from the deck! That makes me jealous :)

@michaeltruman9170 2 месяца назад

Not at all. What do you do at a travel lodge during the day. The £50 a night you quote for France. Does that include your travel expenses, fuel, Ferry/Tunnel, of course it doesn't.

@peteb9783 3 года назад

I've read comments on owner chat groups from a fair number of PHEV drivers with company cars where they openly admit to never plugging in. They chose the car for it's low Benefit In Kind tax rate and in some cases generous business mileage reimbursement rates. Many get free petrol, but no refund for any electricity they use.

@PetrolPed 3 года назад

Yep 👍

@mikelightowlers6594 3 года назад

Lovely looking car and should be at 45K !!! Watch Guy Martin try to beat the world record 1/4 mile in an electric car. Want an electric car but way out of my price range but yet another great vid with tuna and mayo and MONSTER MUNCH Yum

@PetrolPed 3 года назад

I work with Moggy who owns that Beetle. I’ve even driven it…. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-DXGKt8sK8CQ.html

@mikelightowlers6594 3 года назад

@@PetrolPed Yeah and I saw that!!! Thats when i said to the other half PP has driven that! "who is PP" Women!!! So this scalextric Hendy Escort can i send it to you please it would make my day. Taken the wing mirrors off it so the don't get broken

@britishminiclub 3 года назад

We tend to prefer a hybrid. best of both worlds. If only MINI did a hybrid Clubman. At least you didn’t get stuck in the wonderful M5/A30 traffic on your trip to Cornwall

@PetrolPed 3 года назад

I was lucky with the traffic 👍

@global_nomad. 3 года назад

thought i'd mention here given the bike loading that i picked up my new Specialized Aethos Comp last week after much insurance negotiation and trying to find anyone who had anything available....

@alasdairwilson4806 3 года назад

Interesting vid.Those streets look very narrow.Good to see the pooches.

@PetrolPed 3 года назад

They are 😜😂

@BobMullerMX 3 года назад

Ok my 2013 VW Sportwagen, trip 1 rests by itself and trip 2 is long term, maybe the KIA is similar. Greetings from Mexico

@PetrolPed 3 года назад

Thanks Roberto. Annoying though 👍

@ScenesThroughTravels 3 года назад

Amazing views as always

@PetrolPed 3 года назад

👍

@TheMisterB2u 3 года назад

Also,love the view from Cornwall house,can you move that wooden telegraph poll though?!

@PetrolPed 3 года назад

Sadly it’s a power line 😢👎

@user-jg6vi4cd7v 3 года назад

Very interesting, I would go PHEV or electric if the range was good, - on Elec and Speed -was good on PHEV, on cars that I would want to drive! so it's no contest Mini clubman JCW remains my car and that shall happily continue! - until you show me another way! great vid as per usual love your content always thorough and well put together! thanks again!

@PetrolPed 3 года назад

Thanks Richard 👍

@drj7328 2 года назад

Impressive driving..👏👏👏👏 Great video

@frankgooding443 3 года назад

Big car for a 1.6 engine and auto box. Does it feel under powered compared to the last diesel auto or similar diesel auto SUV? I know you said not a sports car in a past review but nice to have some pull like even any decent 2.0 TD car of the last few years. Always like the videos

@ThisGuyRides 2 года назад

Hybrids use one or both of ICE and EV, so you need to add the HP of both.

@t5jerry 3 года назад

"pickled onion monster munch" ......nectar from the god's 😁😁😁

@faylonbiryani 3 года назад

Wow, those little streets in Cornwall are rather tight! 😳

@PetrolPed 3 года назад

They sure are 👍

@peterosullivan8200 3 года назад

thanks for posting, really interesting on the PHEV, it changed my opinion , good quality car and your place in Mevagissey looks great

@PetrolPed 3 года назад

Thanks Peter 👍

@pauldorset2124 3 года назад

Thoroughly enjoyed the video and the doggies are dead cute! Re fuel economy, not terribly impressed with those numbers for a longer journey. Our 5.0 Mustang returns 30 plus on a trip and I know which car I’d rather have. Sounds like EV and PHEV only become worthwhile for shorter trips. How long does it take to charge the Kia on a standard three pin plug? Ps, that first cold one is always the best right?

@PetrolPed 3 года назад

It’s not a huge battery so easily over night and yes the first one is the best 👌

@sonofdad0621 2 года назад

Does the alternator charge battery while engine is running? Or once the little battery is dead that's it for the trip until you can plug in again?

@PetrolPed 2 года назад

This car doesn’t have a self charge mode

@cliftonmcintosh6193 3 года назад

Have a good time 👍🏿🙏🏾👍🏿

@sjasloan 3 года назад

Ty. Very interesting. Persuaded me that PHEV is a good way to go!

@PetrolPed 3 года назад

Great 👍

@artua221 5 месяцев назад

Fantástico video. Vámonos!

@lungaswazi9194 2 года назад

It resets when you refuel Also...pack your parcel cover in the slot on the floor

@PetrolPed 2 года назад

Thanks 👍

@neilmaddox8745 3 года назад

It's a shame that for short journeys,you can't just leave the engine at home,?

@PetrolPed 3 года назад

😂😂😂

@pantchobb 3 года назад

Petrol Ped, what Kw are you getting on a public charging point or at your place with a wall charger? are you getting 7kw?

@clewis5220 3 года назад

Can you reserve the battery for end of journey when driving through villages Mevagissey in this case? Villagers will love ❤️ you for it

@PetrolPed 3 года назад

Not that I am aware of 👍

@wearejames1 3 года назад

Going off on a bit of a tangent, I have often wondered if having solar panels on an EV or PHEV would be effective in recharging the batteries, like regenerative braking does just to top up the batteries? I can only assume the cost and or amount of power from a solar panel on say the roof of an EV wouldn't be viable/efficient enough or someone would have done it already🤔

@siraff4461 3 года назад

The problem is the area of roof available and the likelyhood of the car being under a tree, in a car park or next to a building means the wattage available is very small while the cost and integration aren't cheap in the first place. It has been half done a few times with things like some Nissan Leafs having panels in the spoiler which allegedly power the internal fan on a hot day to keep the cabin cool. Hyundai/Kia have started fitting pretty large ones in some of their vehicles but again its like a trickle charge at best - though they can gain a few miles of electricity per day in ideal conditions so not completely useless but hardly game changing.

@backwoodsbungalow9674 3 года назад

Google Aptera EV. They are developing a very streamlined shape with optional solar cells.

@macattack4422 3 года назад

What happened to the Hyundai Tucson?

@bonceyhutchinson315 3 года назад

Was thinking that myself unless this was before he changed

@PetrolPed 3 года назад

This was filmed two months ago. The Tucson is going strong. Filming its review this week 👍

@bonceyhutchinson315 3 года назад

@@PetrolPed oh looking forward to it 😊😁

@behzadnasr 2 года назад

I am Behzad from Sweden I'm confused about which one it's better ! I wanna buying between Mazda Cx60 plugin or RAV4 plugin or Hyundai Tucson plugin ???? Which one is better?

@PetrolPed 2 года назад

I’d go Tucson PHEV…very good car but I haven’t driven the Mazda 😬

@andrewpattie358 3 года назад

Kia make great cars I'm really interested in a hybrid but I have nowhere to change it up and this video has really been helpful 👍 if u can't change at home there isn't really any benefit wich is a shame as I could really benefit from having one with those mpg figures

@PetrolPed 3 года назад

A self charging hybrid is they way to go then. I have the Tucson self charging hybrid at the moment. Review coming to the channel soon 👍

@andrewpattie358 3 года назад

@@PetrolPed cool will will be interesting to c what sort of mpg it gets I only got a 20 mile round trip I could get my bike out ,could 🤣 👍

@dohrider 3 года назад

I have a Toyota C-HR 2 litre at the moment, a self- charging hybrid, and that does 45mpg on short journeys but up to 70mpg on a longer run. I should imagine a Kia would do something similar.

@andrewpattie358 3 года назад

@@dohrider cool thanks for the the info Colin 👍 i have the sportage 1.6t and it is doing 35ish mpg if I don't put my foot down too much il get around 40 so I guess I'll need to weigh up the cost difference in the car vs the increased economy 🤷‍♂️ and c how much it will cost me over 3 years in total and go from there 👍

@dohrider 3 года назад

@@andrewpattie358 The overall consumption on my C-HR is mid 50s, however I mainly bought a hybrid because I like Toyota cars, the performance on mine is great but mainly because I love the sheer "geekiness" of hybrids.

@nervousfrog101 3 года назад

I just don't see the point in PHEV's. They don't provide significantly better MPG than a petrol car unless on a short journey in which case why not just use a full BEV. I have both ICE and BEV vehicles and when you compare the pro's and cons of BEV vs ICE a PHEV is not good enough in any key area to tempt me away from either.

@stevef7139 3 года назад

I’m confused as I thought you had just picked up a new Hyundai Tuscon last month? I was expecting a review of that, not a Sorento.

@PetrolPed 3 года назад

This was filmed 2 months ago 👍 Tucson review out in the next week or so 👍

@stevef7139 3 года назад

@@PetrolPed Thanks for the explanation. Look forward to that. Sorento looks rather large.

@shinkins6702 3 года назад

The trip reset because you filled it up, you can turn that setting off!

@PetrolPed 3 года назад

Thanks for letting me know 👍

@shinkins6702 3 года назад

@@PetrolPed No worries! Thanks for the great videos and it is refreshing to see someone really enjoying a car like the Kia, usually reviewers only rate the German stuff so is nice to see Kia getting some love.

@HQBProductions 3 года назад

That was a while ago! The Kia is interesting…is it better than the opposition?…hard to tell. My 240SD4 Discovery Sport will return 41mpg+ on a journey like that and not a battery power in it…but what would a new MHEV version do?? The list price is attractive on the KIA..it is the brand name that is the imponderable question. Cornwall is always good (although a dampAugust in crowded St Ives is not the best place this week!) but I am due to be there in November with deserted beaches…🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼Stay safe…wear a raincoat at all times…Richard😀😀😀😀😀

@PetrolPed 3 года назад

Yep. Filmed this one a couple of months ago 😬

@shinkulau Год назад

First of all, K.I.A. not KIO. I drove my Prius+ down to Cornwall for a family of 5 holiday and achieved about 50mpg driving normally and without the need for charging on a charger. In my view PHEV does not achieve much more than a "self charging" hybrid. My EV KIA Soul average 4miles/kWh in the summer and about 2m/kWh in cold winter, which in the real world has big range variation implications between seasons I.e 50%!

@Dmaelstrom 7 месяцев назад

Actually achieves way more as many short trips can be done without the engine turning on at all.

@jollyjohn6403 11 месяцев назад

how many liters of petrol would you need to charge the battery up by 1KW?

@nevco8774 2 года назад

Unfortunately all cars reset the trip info after filling the petrol tank.

@ted1558 Год назад

Nobody told you that, but to keep that "unbelievable" gasoline consumption on the highway... YOU MUST STOP EVERY HALF HOUR TO CHARGE THE BATTERIES !! So, the PHEV cars dont worth the money at all if they run on highways !!

@jorgenpersson662 11 месяцев назад

Can I ask you? What was the average speed?

@palomares.webador 3 года назад

Great job! Thanks a lot for sharing the real world experience on the PHEV. I don't know what exact magic they put in these cars. Is it the seats, the suspension tune and the driver assist tech? I have a prev gen Santa Fe, which is not too far from Kia products judging by my experience. After completing a 2-day journey over 1,000 miles in total, I was still not tired and I was really willing to keep going. My bottom and back were still feeling well and I was not drowsy at all. When approaching the destination the destination I've got a good song on the radio and I was making laps around the neighbourhood enjoying the ride after these 2 full days of driving. Really, really impressive what Hyundai and Kia do nowadays :-) Just for the reference - the 2.4GDI Santa Fe 2020 delivered around 32 mpg of highway + some traffic jams driving 3 adults and luggage

@jamiepolson 3 года назад

“Kio” Sorento?? 😆 entertaining as ever 👍

@PetrolPed 3 года назад

Oops 🙊

@diegoroswell302 Год назад

Try driving your EV when the charge runs out. Plug in hybrid gives you the best EV day to day commuting, but piece of mind when California runs out of electricity

@mattywisey 3 года назад

I would love to see the mpg comparison between this and a RAV4 hybrid (non plugin) I get 60/70 mpg reliably from my chr hybrid. And the wltp for a rav 4 is around 50 without the plug-in

@peteb9783 3 года назад

My 2019 latest version RAV4 Hybrid (not plug-in) has averaged 47 mpg (calculated from all fill-ups) in just under 18,000 miles. My best tank full figure is 54½ mpg [BASED ON UK GALLONS! 47 UK mpg is just over 39 miles per US gallon] The lockdowns have meant far more short journeys and a few ½-hour stationary sits on the drive with the system on to keep the 12V battery topped up. Had my usage been more normal I think it would have been close to 50 mpg. According to the official figures the 2 wheel drive version would get a couple more miles per gallon (mine's AWD).

@mattywisey 3 года назад

@@peteb9783 that’s really impressive!

@peteb9783 3 года назад

@@mattywisey Just occurred to me - if you're in USA you'll be used to miles per US {smaller} gallon! - see new note above.

@crillesamuelsson2906 2 года назад

How is it to drive on only gasoline and no electricity? Is the 1.6 176 horsepower engine enough??

@glynnu3380 2 года назад

Thanks for the video. I'm considering this Kia and the Toyota Highlander PHEV Hybrid. What is your honest opinion on the comfort factor of the driver and passenger seating? My wife has back issues, so seating comfort is most important on longer trips like yours.

@PetrolPed 2 года назад

Not driven the Highlander but the Kia is super comfy on a long journey 👍

@Christopherliddle 3 года назад

Love the view

@PetrolPed 3 года назад

Thanks. It’s pretty special 👍

@grahamtruman1625 2 года назад

anyone tow a caravan with one of these? Wonder what MPG is?

@francoisg3500 3 года назад

Evening all! How’s everyone doing?👍🏻

@PetrolPed 3 года назад

Good thanks…you ?

@francoisg3500 3 года назад

@@PetrolPed I’m good thanks for asking. 👍🏻

@coltoncleveringa8004 3 года назад

I’m doing great 👍 already ready for the weekend lol. How are you doing

@francoisg3500 3 года назад

@@coltoncleveringa8004 I’m good thanks for asking.

@alancwright 3 года назад

I think I would visit the local Tesco and plug into a free pod-point each day if I had a phev on holiday. So envious of the holiday home.

@barnoslogik Год назад

great video, now I happen to be looking at a new car but live 120 miles from work, somerset up to oxford, so m5/m4 etc (approx 90miles worth), where i then commute about 35-40miles over 4-5 days, so would the smart mode be a better option for those longer stints of driving to gain more hybrid assistance, rather than use EV and up 25% in the 1st 15 miles as you mentioned. i would obviously be getting a charger at home if i got a PHEV option (currently looking at a hyundai tuscon/kia sportage) for my days off, plus i have access to an electric charger when near work, so i can use EV mode once i arrive, for the daily commute and charge fully before returning. so 2 questions, was that £50 petrol top up which you said about 400+ mile range sufficient for the return journey and what are the average costs of charging please? reason i ask is to gauge the cost per trip for myself, as currently i'm doing this journey in a 1.6 diesel, great on the motorway part but doesnt like the short commutes part. I hear a lot of people say go for the HEV option but through work the HEV is approx £100 per month more than the PHEV option, now in my head that would almost pay for the fuel side each month.