The Problems with PHEVs / A False Promise? 

I charge my PHEV at home and at work. I don't use gas during my work week. I usually fill up after 8000 kms, just because I want fresh gas. And that is usually when I change my oil. I filled up my tank 6 times last year. PHEV's work for some people with certain driving habits. Hybrids are still a great way to go for most.

I have RAV4 Prime XSE Premium. It is an engineering marvel. In the Summer I get 54 miles per charge, and a full charge takes about 2 1/2 hours. My community has free Level 2 chargers everywhere. I have zero regrets

The Chevy Volt, if it was still around, addresses most of your issues. It weighs 3800 lbs, goes 40 miles on a charge, is a 150 HP EV, never has to fire up the ICE for additional power in EV mode, then switches to a 150 HP serial hybrid when the battery drops to minimum state of charge. It’s a shame folks never got to fully understand how good this system operated before GM pulled the plug. Hopefully the Voltec architecture architecture will return someday but this time with Ultium components.

He's right, PHEV's aren't for everyone but the case against them in this case appears flawed to me. I managed to go 2,600KM between fills on my 23 Santa Fe PHEV, thus moving my payback period between the gas model and the PHEV to only 2.3 years. Additionally, the 90HP of electric does just fine for me in almost every circumstance. Is it perfect? Nope, but man, I am ecstatic with my experience thus far with a PHEV.

Very happy with my phev. Absolutely nothing beats it in cost and utility. We also own an EV, which I like, but would not have it as my only car.

Rav4 prime owner here. Bought mine in early 2021 when it was not too difficult (5 month wait). Used it for 2 years in Bay Area for my 40 mile commute (charging at home and work means very little gas), weekend ski trips to Tahoe, all the while using very little gas. I moved this summer across the country and used the same rav4 to haul a trailer with all my stuff (2500 towing capacity perfect for a haul 5x8). Since I moved, I have not had to gas up (using 1/4 tank). Find another better car for me,

I bought a mitsubishi outlander phev in May. Absolutely love it. I've put in 3400 miles and only filled up 3 times. In long commutes, my car can almost entirely recharge my battery during the commute and can still have that instant ev power.

Reality check: *most* people drive less than 40-50 miles per day *most* of the time, but occasionally drive up to several hundred miles in trip. Consequence: any vehicle that gives much more than 50 miles of range is *wasting* energy during daily use (due to the added weight and volume). Therefore: any means of supplying further range (both generation and refueling) ought to be designed to optimize efficiency during the sub-50 mile daily driving-not during the extended range driving-whether than be a larger battery, a generator or fuel cell, or a larger gas tank. Conclusion: most people will greatly benefit from a PHEV-but not those who either frequently drive more than the battery range or do not have access to slow charging at home or work.

I have had a Tucson PHEV for two years. I live in Southern CA and usually do not drive more than 31 miles per day. My usual gas mpg per fill up is about 200. I got $8,200 combined tax credits so I didn’t have to pay a PHEV premium. I have solar, so I don’t have additional electric costs for the 6,000 electric miles I drive per year. One draw back on the Tucson is that the gas engine turns on when you need heat.

Love, love, love my Honda Clarity! Near perfect car. I get @43 EV range during winter, up to 62 miles during the Summer. That's right. 62 miles for a PHEV. Which is more than I drive most days. My average is 126 mpg overall. Of course, the car was discontinued because people didn't like the wheel covers. That's right. The wheel covers...

The biggest challenge now is battery production is constrained worldwide, so I see PHEV as a bridge until gas engines go the way of the steam engine. The battery in one 240mi EV can make 6 PHEV or 90 HV. An ICE powertrain is heavy, but so is carrying around an extra 200mi of battery you don't use every day

I don’t know how this video got on my list. I gave it a shot but had to quit within minutes. Dude is pulling blanket statements out of his arse, left and right. A 2nd gen Chevy Volt, for instance, gets 50-60 miles of pure extricate before the engine kicks in. My 1st gen is 10 years old and still gets 32 miles of electric range of the original 38 miles. And it’s got 170k miles. Don’t get me wrong, I love my Porsche Taycan, but the PHEVs have their uses too. Hence, YMMV.

Europe: Much higher gas prices, smaller distances, also smaller models and no extra tax on plug In hybrids and you have a 400% different situation....

if you are thinking you will make money by not buying gas, you wont super chargers cost the same as gas car ,and the road tax is coming for Ev,s plus insurance cost is going up to 4-5 thousand dollars forget EV,s they are not worth the anxiety.

We bought our third Prius three and a half months ago. Our first PHEV. It cost over $20,000 less than the cheapest Tesla (or any other full EV). We got half of what we paid for our Prius C, 12 years after purchase. To date, we have accumulated 5,000Km on the 2024 Prime and have purchased a half tank of fuel after the dealer fill-up was used and some of that gas is still in the tank. Our best range so far in EV mode was 91Km, far surpassing the advertised range. Yesterday I drove 88Km in EV with 6% SOC remaining, the car would have exceeded 91Km had we kept going. Gas here is $6.75 a gallon ($1.80 L), however, we can recharge from "empty" for $ about $1.70. Our first oil change is booked for March 2025. All good.

I've owned hybrid cars for 23 years and researched PHEV's and BEV's since they've been sold. PHEV's really are the natural progression between hybrids to BEV's. And right now, PHEV's make the MOST SENSE for the majority of American commuters on a statistical basis given most people's driving habits. They will save most people money and headache in the long run as well as burn less fossil fuels. My next car will be a PHEV. In 10-20 years, when we have better battery technology and public charging infrastructure, BEV's will be the way to go.

I've a 2019 Prius PHEV. I charge from empty to full in 3 hours at home. I can charge on the run if I want. Around town, the engine seldom cuts in. Average range 50kms and typical

I tried to buy a PHEV RAV4 but after a long wait, they called for a regular hybrid and I took it. Heard all your points and I would still go for it. PHEV is not for everybody but it would have worked perfect for me. Good video.

Did I miss the tree hugging moment?

model y vs rav4 prime same price, ok but rav: better range, cheaper to run, more offroad capabilities, much Much more reliable, has two propulsion systems and hybrid mode where it charges battery using fuel, more practical interior layout, build quality, has frickin knobs and real buttons to push, can do 560 miles on gas and 40 on electric which is plenty for most.

If charging at home who cares how long as long as it is charged in the morning ill be able to drive all year without petrol

I have owned a Volt and a Prius Prime (the old one that got 25 miles per charge). Both were great cars but the market is getting to a point where most people who would consider a PHEV may as well just buy a BEV. I have a Kona EV now and it’s been great, ironically I actually worry about charging less than I did with my PHEVs. I always tried my hardest to keep them charged, even plugging in at friends’ houses when I was able to. It felt like a waste anytime I needed to use gas. I only really think about range with the Kona if I’m planning a trip, I don’t take many long trips though so it’s not something I deal with often. Another consideration for me trading in the Prius Prime for the Kona was that I moved from a single family home where I could charge nightly to an apartment where I can’t charge. With the Kona I just charge at work 1-2 times a week, if I still had a PHEV then I’d spend a lot of time burning gas.

It's hard to know where to start, there is just so much wrong with this video. You clearly have never owned a PHEV, nor have you talked to nearly as many owners as you suggested. I have owned gas only vehicles, regular hybrids, PHEV's, and EVs. Let me explain a few things to you about charging speed. When you have an 18 kWh battery that charges on level 2 in 2.5 - 4.5 hours depending on your vehicle trim, you don't need level 3 charging and if you think you do, you don't understand the purpose of owning a PHEV. The glass is never half full for you, is it? You also complain about vehicle weight and start cherry picking the worst examples. Would I buy a Mitsubishi PHEV? Never. So congrats, you successfully confirmed that I made the right decision not to choose the Mitsubishi when picking a PHEV.... but that has NOTHING to do with whether a PHEV, in general, is a good choice or not. In the summer of 2021, the RAV4 Prime was just being released, it was in high demand and I didn't even live in a state where it was sold. What to do? OMG, according to you THEY ARE JUST SO HARD TO FIND! And even with you DO FIND ONE, the dealer SCREWS YOU ON PRICE and marks the car up thousands of dollars .... You are, in a word, wrong. Let me tell you exactly how hard it was to find myself a RAV4 without a single penny of markup. I called 2 dealers in Maryland and 2 in western New York. The 2nd dealer in New York, and the 4th one overall that I called, said "we have 40 coming in over the next 2 months, we're selling them at MSRP, what color do you want?" and I was done. MSRP, done deal, vehicle arrived 3 weeks later, the color I wanted, not one penny over MSRP. Took me less than 10 minutes on the phone calling 4 dealerships and I was done. In short, the main thing you get wrong is your approach. Are PHEV's for everyone? NOPE. Are regular Hybrids for everyone? NOPE. Are gas only vehicles for everyone? NOPE. Are full EVs for everyone? NOPE. This video could have been awesome. Instead of being a complainer who cherry picked a problem from this car and a problem from that car and then made a bunch of negative comments that were purely based on opinion and not fact, you could have and SHOULD have done a video with an approach along the lines of "PHEV's aren't for everyone. I'll explain why some of you SHOULD get one, and why others should not... and I'll also tell you which models to get and which ones you might want to avoid because they just don't measure up to the better vehicles in this class. Anyone that takes the time to think about their driving habits now and for the next 5 years should have no problem figuring out what type of vehicle would be best for them, and if they don't know they can watch helpful videos on RU-vid that will explain clearly the differences and why you should or should not consider each type. THIS is not one of those videos. Do better.

I love my PHEV. Plug in at home at my convenience. I fill gas every 4 months. Worth the wait to buy.

Uhm, we charge our Escape PHEV at home. At night. When we sleep. In a 110 outlet. We also -- gasp! -- charge our telephones the same way. It costs about two bucks a month. Who TF would try to charge it on the road? That is not the point. And we got a tax credit.

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After 6 months of owning an Outlander PHEV, my average oil consumption is 1.7L/100 km. I have a very good and luxiorious ride experienced. I just plug it in my driveway overnight twice a week. I am happy with my purchased.

I live in NW OryGONE with a PUD. Cheap electric, high gasoline. I went with a Toyota CC hybrid AWD. Emphasis on utility and AWD necessity. I hypermile always and I get 80-85 MPG as 90% of mileage is country/suburban miles. Best PHEV would be Rav 4. Doing the numbers, I only drive @6k/yr. it would take 650k all electric miles to recover additional cost, nearly 120 years! I love the CC, more front legroom than Rav 4, same cargo area with seats down. 63 single grandfather. I'm going to remove front passenger seat for maximum utility, haven't had a passenger in @10 years, will still have rear seats. Carry my kayak inside... 😂 Oh yeah, don't have the PITA charging scenario, always park outside in weather, garage is stuffed.

There is a sweet spot of how much driving you do where the cost premium for a PHEV can make sense, but after shopping for cars and crunching the numbers I could not justify it for myself because I don't drive enough miles to see big gas money savings. Going with a regular old hybrid for now

So an EV is only 4% less carbon emitting than an average ICE vehicle? Get a higher MPG ICE vehicle like a Civic or Corolla and an EV is worse then.

We have a need for a 7 seater here and there and we like to take long road trips every now and then and Model y 7 seat is just too cramped in third row Model X is just tooooooo expensive you can't save enough gas to break even lol, and I don't feel like going to rent-a-car place to rent a roomy car whenever I have a need, just wasting precious vacation time, and the hustle of making sure you bring everything you could normally just keep in the regular car. And we only want to have 1 car for the time being so we went with CX-90 PHEV which has enough ev range for our daily commute, and we don't have to spend time waiting for car to charge, some places we go is quite remote where there can be 65km or more between charging stations, they generally don't come with covers so if its pouring out then we will get drenched trying to plugin our car, and with a cranky 1 year old it's just not where I want to put myself on a road trip. That said I wouldn't mind getting a leaf or bolt if we ever need a 2nd vehicle. Or if charging infrastructure improves. I agree with Realistick, PHEV can make sense for specific lifestyles.

Yes, some PHEV are atrocious. Not the technology but how OEMs apply it. The EV motor for BMW PHEV is treated as a supercharger while the short range EV mode is to transit city centers without using gasoline. For the German drives BMW PHEV models are a must, convenient and cheaper by avoiding fees/fines. Mitsubishi PHEV, atrociously bad hybrid MPG along with short range EV. Bad execution. Hyundai Ioniq hybrid vs PHEV, the PHEV wins over hybrid always. Well executed. Select hybrid or PHEV wisely and happiness will be assured. 2018 Hyundai Ioniq PHEV owner. Superb car.

Gee there’s no biased tone to his review. Ya gotta start somewhere. ICE, PHEV, and hybrid are for specific uses. Just got a 25 Sorrento PHEV and it’s great. The tech will continue to improve. Know how you drive and figure out which best is for your needs.

By conflating carbon footprint with environmental impact, you are not recognizing the benefit to air quality of EVs. Regarding your statement that driving an electric car twice as far as a Honda Pilot is not helping the environment, you need to recognize that there is more to environmental impact than GHG emissions. Air quality benefits much more from EVs than ICE vehicles. Although the concept of a ‘long tailpipe’ is real, meaning there are non-zero air emissions associated with EVs, the quantity and more importantly the quality of emissions are vastly different between EVs and ICE vehicles. ICE vehicles bring with them CO, NOx, unburned hydrocarbon emissions, and much higher levels of smog producing chemicals like ozone and PM2.5 particles. By contrast, EV emissions are generated at a remote power plant when electricity is produced only by means other than solar, wind, geothermal, hydro, or nuclear - so nearly one third the smog-producing and GHG emissions are reduced right off the bat by generating emission-free power. Then there is the superior pollution controls employed by power plants using chemical scrubbers to capture air pollutants before they are emitted to the air. Finally, and this is BIG: EVs are about 3 times more efficient at turning energy into motion energy than gasoline cars. It’s much better for air quality (I’m not referring to GHGs - I’m referring to hazardous air pollutants that cause premature deaths) if we don’t drive vehicles that produce two units of waste heat energy for every one unit of motion energy. That wasted heat energy - heat of combustion - has a lot of particles and pollutants associated with it that are dangerous to respiratory health. Stop equating ‘environmental impact’ solely with GHG emissions. Climate change is an important issue, but we need clean, breathable air, too.

Have the 2023 Sante Fe HEV - absolutely love it, as I'm getting well above 30mpg on a pig of a vehicle. Wanted the PHEV and I still think it definitely makes sense for some. I can drive around town for most of my errands in pure EV mode.

Maybe those are problems with USA models. I think European PHEVs from stallantis group or VAG are better balanced. I drive a cupra PHEV with 245 hp and the ev power and range is perfect for everyday use. For longer journeys where the battery gets discharged, the full hybrid mode is excellent and I get figures around 2-4 lt/100 km. Until EVs get minimum 800 km for the base models, PHEVs are a totally viable solution to the balance between ev mode and range anxiety.

hmmm phev, ev looks like car for people who does not drive far or a lot. I know a chap in China, where he own a petrol motorcycle. Asked him why, not electric bikes. He said he rides alot. I guess that is where phev/ev are for. people with less commute needs.

Regular Toyota hybrids are perfectly efficient, except for short commutes. So it would be nice to have a relatively cheap PHEV, but with a 15-20 mile range!

I don't use gas all week in my 2014 plug in still get 43 miles per charge ish and I'm dead happy I don't call into a gas station once a week but and a big but the mpg of the internal is crap real crap

PHEVs will be viable when they get 100km range and you can DC fast charge them. At that point you can fill up with gas on long trips AND fast charge for an extra 100km in 5 minutes.

Shame on Toyota. And shame shame on the vulture Toyota dealer network for the crazy 4,000-5,000 markups they are placing on the RAV4 and Prius PHEVs. Toyota should put a stop to the stupid markups and build more cars.

"EV's don't work super well in the US"... Says the guy making a video about PHEVs. I average 52mpg to 174mpg in my 2018 Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV. Absolute worst case scenario battery at 30% using the motor on the highway with the heat set to 80 degrees I get 35mpg. At 70 degrees and a little planning I never get less than 44mpg on longer highway trips. In a large crossover with AWD. Still more efficient than any similarly sized AWD crossover. The outlander will drive pure electric all the way to the highest speed limit in the US. EV only range is 18-20mi in the winter. 26-32mi in the summer. The newer ones are seeing 44+mi in the winter. (for reference I average 20-40mi driven per day with mixed driving.) The thing your video is demonstrating is you don't understand how PHEVs work and you're brand biased. The battery in a PHEV is never depleted like and EVs. Very rarely will the ever get below 30% and they operate just like a normal hybrid at that point. Only topping off to keep the battery at a minimum reserve to keep it safe. They will 100% of the time be more efficient than any other similarly sized and optioned vehicle with any other configuration except true EV. You are definitely helping the environment if you travel twice the distance in an EV. 100% of the time.

I'm not sure why the EV-only range on US models is so low. I've seen 50 miles EV-only from an Outlander PHEV done on a very regular basis, without trying particularly hard.

Just get the Prius, Rav 4 Prime or NX 450 plug in. I think Toyota does not get credit for putting the effort to make more sustainable vehicles. Current EVs have such huge initial CO2 footprint, that they are accelerating global warming.

uh my 2013 chevy volt has 120k miles on it and im currently getting 47 hwy miles on all electric range. true on the hwy i would only get like 39 miles before i added 90$ worth of flexible solar panels to the roof. the irony is that gm accidently built the perfect EV with no real battery degradation 15 years ago, but everyone was too dumb to realize they were not just priuses. I spent 7k for mine last year and have already saved 2k in gas compared to my mpg modded 02 civic. its almost guaranteed that I will realize the entire value of the car in gas savings in just a couple more years, and i have literally never been inconvenienced by it unlike EV's with their multi decade ROI

Wow, these "new" PHEVs have worse range and power than a several year old Chevy Volt. I've got a ten year old Cadillac ELR. It's 200HP, about 300 lb/ft, has all the luxuries of a Cadillac. I charge at home and work, commute 93 miles a day and burn 0.8 gallons of gas a day except for winter when range is down and I burn about 1.1 gallons of gasoline on a normal work commute. Pure EV isn't the way to go, hybrids and PHEVs make the most sense.

I don't see a disadvantage here. When you're stuck with your EV in Moosebutt Montana checking out the beer can museum and no charger for 150 miles you will WISH you bought that PHEV! 😂

My ford fusion is averaging 80 mpg and can go 400 miles on a full tank oil changes are about once a year and can cost under 10k used

I've watched many EV and Tesla videos where they're long distant driving. The entire trip is planned around going from one charging station to the next. A PHEV does NOT have that problem.

Not all PHEV are Dump …. But some PHEV are Dump. European Phev suck ….. they use turbo charge engine which is not good for fuel consumption . Rav4 prime big electric motor . Eco focus engine …… great fuel consumption. Many hybrid system not the same . Some of it. Suck !!!! Not all suck.

My Prius prime is elite. I will exclusively buy them. They make sense in almost every case for me.

I am extremely happy with my PHEV. Some months I do not charge gas at all. I live in Europe, gas es very expensive, running with home electricity is 70 % cheaper than running on gas. Thanks to tax breaks the PHEV was 30 % less expensive as the same car with ICE motor. It is a large 4WD SUV and thanks to regen with empty battery it consumes like a little boring 1 liter ICE VW Golf. So if you do most of you commute with home electricity and do not need to pay a fortune for the PHEV I can't imagine a better solution. If you just do long journeys and charging at home is not an option you will not enjoy those benefits and a normal hybrid or even an efficient diesel will do. About the issue of carrying the ICE when using as EV I prefer that than carry a battery five time bigger than needed.

You guys in Murica spoil EV charger.... In Australia for example phev is much more make sense, we have big land like Murica with alot less big city and EV infrastructure.... If you just need to travel less 50km to commute phev make alot of sense, which alot of people. My cousin brag about her model y until she need to travel to annual visit to her husband parent in Melbourne during Christmas. Yeah waiting for 1 1/2 just for the queue every one need to travel during same holiday period using the same charger... And to add salt to injury when my uncle and aunt come to visit her she need to hired outlander because outlander is 7 seater while her Y only 5... Not to mention outlander alot cheaper here than model Y.

I just watched your video, about 1 year after it was posted. I would say from personal experience with both Full EV and now a 2024 Audi Q5 55 tfsi e, that your argument is false. With the 2023 ID.4 Pro S AWD I had a constant range anxiety with my own 40amp/240 watts level 2 charger in my garage. Going 300 round trip was a nightmare. I got rid of it at a huge loss in 6 months. The phev now, I bought it end of July '24 with 11 miles, I have a bit north of 2000 miles 55 days later and I only put 11 gallon of gas only twice in this whole time ($72 total). I charge it at home in 90 minutes average, do my daily driving in town in all EV mode, of course when I smack it the engine comes on, I get 32-37 Electric range only (even though advertised is 26), I get 36 mpg on average hybrid mode driving city/highway 50/50, I have no range anxiety in my Charlotte to Chapel hill trips. Plus I have 362hp and 369 lbs/feet torque , 5.0 seconds 0-60, it smokes my other luxury V6 twin turbo charge SUV and it smokes any Porsche (I met,) on the road. Micromanaging the phev correctly and having a charger at home makes the PHEV the smartest buy for me. No gas, cheap electricity at night, 90 minutes 2-full miles charge, spitfire HP and torque, no range anxiety, luxurious features.

HATE PHEV! more complicated engines that tends to have more things going wrong with it. More cost of maintenance, more cost of the vehicle. BAD performance and heavier than normal. Just get a Normal Hybrid and be done with it

Got it - sell my house and move into the slum area near my factory...

Actually, PHEV are great for stop and go city driving... but then so are EVs. PHEVs are not as efficient on long trips as ICE vehicles but at least, unlike BEV's you can actually reach you destination in a reasonable time. Trading some of that BEV battery weight for a small ICE actually makes sense sometimes. Just remember, all energy is local. Your mileage may vary. By the way... Last year I bought a Jeep Grand Cherokee. At the time I had the option to get the PHEV 4xe version but chose the V6 that I was familiar with.

You're missing the point. These hybrids are designed to save capex investment automakers made in production capacity around petrol drive. That's it, there's no other reason you would want to do it since it's the worst of both worlds. The only case where it makes sense are so called mild hybrids helping mini city cars without adding much weight.

Most PHEVs are awful, but the Toyota PHEVs are brilliant vehicles! Too bad they're so hard to get like stated in this video.

Eh....range anxiety is real, especially given that most EVs lose their range pretty quickly due to various factors like cold. Until chargers are as fast and as plentiful as gas stations I'll stick to Lexus/Toyota HEVs and PHEVs. Awesome resale value and reliability, unlike EVs lol.

"Engineering Explained" video based on wrong initial data. It is excluded carbon footprint for batteries matherials production and includes only this one for batteries production from matherials already produced. Thic numbers are much, MUCH lower then real whole life-cycle contaminations. It can be explained by obvious fact that labels by car manufacturer contains only data about this manufacture and do not takes in scope whole process before. So video explanation is almost honest, but based on wrong input data, so conclusions are wrong. Also please take in scope - when we talking about batteries - carbon is not most poisonous contaimnation. It is a bunch of chemicals hard to absorb by planet at all. Even "sodium batteries" (next scoop for not engineers) contains vanadium and other poisonous substances. EV production at contemporary stage not just much more poisonous, but also make huge inequality by moving contamination to other countries. It is a reason why for example CCP intends to request request "compensation" from consumer countries. Also for part of matherilas (ex. cobalt) multiple ethicla problem exists (usage of children labor, propriety robbing etc.). Yes, consumer just closing their eyes, but these serious problems not disappear of course. There are ONLY engineer's solution possible - not marketing or politic as in case of "pure EVs". HEV and PHEV is most acceptable solutions for average car mass-user for now as they combine many pros from ICE and electric engines, redices gas usage and not requires so huge poisonous batteries. Both lines (ICEs and EVs) has direction to development in right direction (by new fuell usage or discarding of lithium or sodium batteries). And I personally see no reason one should replace another - they would co-exists anyway. By the way - I see "regress" in pure-EVs marketing, by moving backward to PHEV by serial scheme, but with marketing name "EV with range extender" :)

you are wrong PHEV are rt now the best. of course the battery is too small it should be 100 milles. I own one my gas bill came down 75% and if i stay in town o close to town I never buy gas this car is fast at the light I beat everybody. power is very good

Only in specific cases a PHEV can make sense but for most of us they are B.S. honestly

My Volt goes about 4000 miles per 10gal of gas. Roughly 3 fillups per year. 6 years later....zero issues. Tiny amounts of maintenance. Extremely convenient. Zero need for fast charging. I plug in at home and work. This video is kinda funny. Not well considered.

Very happy with my MG EHS PHEV. Great value for money.

I love my PHEV. Plug in at home at my convenience. I fill gas every 4 months. Worth the wait to buy.

Meh. Everyone should know what they’re buying and their own habits. If they match, it’s okay to buy.

What if elecricity costs more than gas and it is produced by burning fossil fuels?

Some put a 500$ deposit and withdraw the order one two years later for no show! Toyota especially!

900 lbs more on the PHEV than the ICE make the vehicule less funny to drive.

I started with a Volt, went to a Spark EV, and now have a Ford Maverick Hybrid. Where I live, I can access just about any type of store or food within a 20 mile radius. And at the time I had my Volt, I was working a job that was 5 miles away. I was in electric 95% of the time. I then started doing side gig delivery for Amazon, in which the gas engine was great to have. I still got great MPG when the battery was depleted. The Spark EV taught me through a series of traumatic lessons that a pure EV as my only vehicle is not, selfishly, viable for me. Pure EV's just simply are not for a large number of people, yet. The Maverick Hybrid has been great, yes, I wish I had more electric range, but hybrid system is great about utilizing electric only mode. Plus, having learned all of the tips and tricks from my Volt and Spark, I can really max out the electric range and MPG. I really think there's a place for all of them, caveat being the PHEV should be something with like 40+ miles of electric only range, with good to excellent MPG on gas, being of moderate price and utility. Great video!! You have really great insights.

Thank you for bringing up that the best way to eliminate emissions from transportation is to completely rethink how we move around, build our cities ect. As an American, I feel like cars are so deeply ingrained in how we get around that we have a hard time reimagining a different built world. Great video too!

The biggest obstacle to PHEVs is that an automobile engine is far from the ideal engine type for operating as a range-extending electric generator. But, since all current PHEVs are developed by legacy car companies which are in the business of producing automobile engines, that's what they're equipped with. That engine ends up adding more weight, and taking up more space, in addition to the fuel tank and battery pack, and electric motor. If someone developed a PHEV with a smaller, more efficient range-extender, many of the issues outlined in this video would go away.

you just named 3 ev i would neverbuy tesla 8 year old car mustang mac e overorice and ugly vw, they all go back to the dealer , no tank you

OH JUST BUY A Tesla you obviously have not driven in Australia

Lots of great points here. I have been surprised how easy my little 80 hp (60,000 watt) motor can move 4500 lbs of car...its actually quite impressive. I want to get over 200,000miles out of our 2023 KIA Niro PHEV but I can see that there maybe more maintenance required,,, somewhat ironically because of how little use the gas engine gets. Lighting up a gas engine at 65mph when its 10 degrees out and shooting fuel (GDI engine) directly on the piston, is going to require more oil changes. That said, it is wonderful short range electric commuter car.

The continuous voice overs added in post are rather distracting to an otherwise very well done analysis

You lost me at the 200 mile per gallon (I can't do math) comment.

Plug-in hybrid electric vehicles (PHEVs) are the least reliable vehicle of the four vehicle categories (i.e. full electric, PHEV, Hybrid, ICE). 146 percent more problems than conventional cars (Consumer Reports USA). Yes that’s 146% MORE PROBLEMS THAN PETROL POWERED VEHICLES.

Americans comute 40 miles per day? You guys are crazy!

The only things I'd want from a hybrid right now is a fully electric ~150kW drive train with a ~15kWh LFP battery and a ~15kW range-extending generator that has engine heat recovery for fast heat in winter to get both the cabin and LFP up to comfortable temperatures without losing half the range or waiting 20+ minutes.

We would like to buy a hybrid, but Ava is unbelievably long.

Everyone's driving situation is different. The U.S. Infrastructure for charging is a nightmare, but that will eventually improve (maybe). Meanwhile, for me, I am trending towards a PHEV over an EV ONLY because of charging access when I'm not home. Plus, I lease, and leases are eligible for the Federal Tax credits so that's $7500 off MSRP, making the price more in line with the vehicle's ICE trim. Also, by leasing, the battery degradation or other maintenance issues don't arise within the first 3 years. Then once the lease is over, in 2027 or so, either the battery technology and infrastructure has improved, and if not, you could always go back to an ICE vehicle. Or upgrade to a full EV at that point if the tech and charging speed does improve. I mean, Toyota is working on solid state batteries to replace Li-Ion, and hydrogen or ammonia-fueled engines may become a thing after years of research. Who knows? At least, I can predict that flying cars won't be a thing yet.

Well, a PHEV was the only choice for me. In my area, you cannot buy a decent NA ICE-only car nowadays, but I got a 6.5K euro incentive for a PHEV with an even bigger engine. LOL... Anyway, charging it daily really works wonders inside the city. Therefore, there was not a single reason why I would not buy a PHEV

Too bad the Mercedes A series is not available in the US. 44+ miles Electric range, 7KwH charging rate, 12.5KwH battery size, does up to 87mph electric only, and has impressive 'waft' getting there. Also does 50mpg gas only mode. It works for me, in the UK.

Dude literally projected his reasons for getting an ev on everyone else lol

Another option would be to have a small EV , with a mid range battery for everyday trips and a bigger combustion engine car for longer trips. A great option if you have more than one driver, but only occasionally need two cars at the same time.

I have an outlander phev 2024 my choice for this car was the cargo space and 4x4 traction. reliability .find me an electric car with the same cargo for the same price. I can bring in all my kitesurfing equipment and my mountain bike. I can go to my work by electric and I can do my kitesurfing trips without worrying about recharging. for my application the phev is the best of both worlds

Phev would make sense if they were more like the volt or insight where it is more of a range extended electric.

You missed an indepth point of the new EV game that is all the rage!! “ Charger Charger Where’s a WORKING Charger, and will I find a working one before my car dies?” Sub-game is: @Oh what will I do for the next 30-50-90-120 minutes while charging my EV?”

The problem with all these “green” cars is price!!!!!!! I’ll take my fully loaded gas car and +20k in savings. RAV4 prime in CAN is 70k, hahah.

I think it's a better use of batteries to put them in PHEVs and HEVs. EVs only get 1000 charge cycles while PHEVs get 5000 and HEVs 100k

You make an interesting argument for BEV over PHEV. You lose me with your Tesla promotion. I'm not going to go into my specific issues with Tesla, way too long. But you need to keep your arguments more generic, more brand neutral.

I'm looking forward to the day this foolish fad passes.

Of course, there are more clicks in saying negative, misleading things that feed people's confirmation biases. But you already knew that.

Just one thing you missed. The stress of owning an electric vehicle and having to worry about finding a place to recharge. Having to drive with A/C turned off so you can make it to a charging location.

Didn't mention PHEV have better towing capacity than EV's. EV's get a workover with range when towing, hills, highways at speed etc.

Seems like hybrid is still the better option over PHEV. Great video as usual!

Say, if you always drive less than the EV-only distance and never use the gas, what would happen to the old gas and the gas engine itself? No one talks about this possible problem.

This is a glass half full view point. Phev owners see things the other way. People buy what make sense to them. Phev not for everyone so is EV.