Do Taller People Have A Disadvantage Weight Lifting?

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In this QUAH Sal, Adam, & Justin answer the question "They say if you are tall you are at a natural disadvantage for squats. Can you discuss different methods to progress and increase range of motion? Will I hit a point where I can’t advance any further doing high bar back squats?".
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@rexflores8461 Год назад

It's crazy when you're tall and look normal but people who are shorter and lift the same amount of weight as you look like Broly.

@tenzingobom4748 Год назад

I have seen 5’5 turning in Greek god within 6 month in gym

@gdvr2620 Год назад

It’s cause shorter people have less surface area to cover with muscle

@rexflores8461 Год назад

@@Jeansoverslacks if I'm 6'4 and weigh 210 pounds I'll look significantly less jack then you which is the point. Or I can be just as strong as you and look significantly less jacked. I'm not sure what you're going on about but that was the only point I was making

@rexflores8461 Год назад

@@Jeansoverslacks you conveniently omitted me also saying I could be just as strong

@rexflores8461 Год назад

@@Jeansoverslacks yea I know

@ManuRomer0 Год назад

Only tall people can talk about how hard it is... Always the short people talking shit about this as an excuse🤦🏻‍♂️

@harryjarman5053 10 дней назад

Facts

@mateuszbak1060 2 года назад

yea im 6'4 and honestly its brutal. going hard af in the gym 4 days week in week out just to see minimal results is very discouraging

@todretex Год назад

It is a gift. I am 6’6. 50. I hated it when I was younger. But I am strong and still look leaner than other people my own age. My deadlift is only 160 kg. I can press 57.5 dumbbells with huge leavers. My arms got cut and strong but my deadlift has always been a struggle. I also have strong legs. I don’t care if other people are deadlifting 220 kg or more. Being tall is the long game. Time is your friend and you will always look better for being tall I think. Keep going man. You will know what I mean in ten years. Just keep the high quality food coming and don’t over train.

@tescopiwo Год назад

Thought i was the only one lol, 4 months into the gym now. I see the progress but it’s nothing compared to the shorter fellas out there

@Camefromnone Год назад

I swear I feel you man

@kosilver77 Год назад

I’m 6’5 I use light weights more reps it’s a slow process but we gotta figure it out

@thomashulleman7810 Год назад

Eat more, you’ll get there

@ThomasHastings94 2 года назад

Really good stuff! However with a decent knowledge of statics and levers on my side I disagree with the idea "that deadlifts are easier" the increased leverage induced by a long femur is very much there. In addition tall lifters will typically lift the weight much higher off the ground, leading to a much greater energy expenditure per rep. There really isn't any static lifting, pulling or pushing exercise that benefits from longer leverage, as the lever is always working against you. Great point with tall lifters having more muscle, definitely explains how giants like Thor pull such weight.

@JayBrown-xs9ps 3 года назад

I'm a shorter guy (5'6 or '7) and I respect this video because they admit that taller guys are at a kind of anatomical disadvantage because of their natural lever lengths (making the range of motion automatically longer) in most exercises and generally need greater mobility but they also acknowledge that shorter people have lower ceilings for mass and strength gain and also have an overall naturally smaller muscle size (and tendon as well, which would both cause less strength). So it balances and shouldn't be used as an excuse or a way to put down shorter people's gains (these are experiences that I've come across).

@Man.Well93 3 месяца назад

yeah stop whining, one shouldnt put down tall guys achievements either, but no word of that in your rant.

@fledglingbodhisatva4821 Год назад

Long arms make deadlift easier? What about the longer legs that go with them? The range of motion increases when the waist target is higher above the ground.

@oliverhawkins3098 2 года назад

It is harder in most exercises but would you rather be short and jacked or tall and skinny? (ask women)

@mizasonn 2 года назад

Short and jacked

@kylepulley7451 2 года назад

@@mizasonn found the short guy

@darlenesabatka446 Год назад

Tall & jacked 🤷‍♀️ 😁 I'm almost 6'

@cesarcastro2831 2 месяца назад

Honestly, who cares what women think. You gotta work with the hand you’ve been dealt. Coming from a 5’6 guy

@OCHitters Год назад

I'm 6'3 and I've been able to get my chest pretty jacked but my arms are tough to grow. I have to blame it on how long they are but some of my shorter friends who don't hit the gym as hard and diet the same have some pretty good mass on their arms. Genetics I guess

@aryanmalik2390 Год назад

My advice for squats would be feet placed somewhat wide apart and toes pointing outward , this has helped me go down more and that too , properly .

@jeffreydomingo9478 Год назад

I am 190 cm. And i am wondering why i cant go all the way down with my squats if i do the conventional stance, if i do, it would hurt. So im a bit insecure because i do my squats exactly as u described.

@Oli420X 3 года назад

I'm tall and shits difficult 😂

@coach9410 6 месяцев назад

extremely!

@SpectrKing Год назад

6,2 bench is 315 max and little kids that are 5 foot tall no joke they bench 365 next to me really kills my mood but then I remember I’m tall and they are short for life height you can’t get gainz u can always get

@4Ner Год назад

315 bench is really good. I'm over here struggling with 265 @6 foot 1

@clarity2115 7 месяцев назад

@@4Ner 265 was my sticking point, I added floor presses and was able to shoot up to 365. Same height as you

@cesarcastro2831 2 месяца назад

Imagine being a tall guy who has to cope with that mindset 😂 How Pathetic

@douglasnakamura6753 Месяц назад

@@cesarcastro2831 I'm guessing you are a small man?

@stevenmaillet Месяц назад

I only just started working out and can only bench 140 but my friend who is even newer than me is pushing 200 already lol - rip self confidence

@eelijarvinen4085 Год назад

Having long limbs most certainly is not an advantage in any sort of pull or push. A movement like bent over row is essentially just like a bench press but the other way around. The same levers and disadvantages are at play. Yea we have longer arms but we also have longer legs so we don't have a shorter ROM. So if the ROM is not smaller what makes long limbs an advantage in deadlift. It isn't the long legs, they just make everyting harder. Believe me. I've tried.

@harambae7014 Год назад

I imagine being short but having disproportionately long arms would be ideal for deadlifts because ROM would be lower. Probably sucks for most upper body lifts though.

@tastedpurple1492 Год назад

Rowers are generally tall and lean tho! Perhaps the force they generate are higher than shorter people?

@eelijarvinen4085 Год назад

@@tastedpurple1492 I'm not sure. Could also be that longer limbs equal longer strokes hence more efficient rowing

@Stockfish1511 2 года назад

Actually in deadlift its not true. Your back lenght makes it harder for you and you usually use legs for deadlifts so arm length does not make a different that much. Contrary shorter people have easier because their knees wont get in the way. But taller people have bigger muscles and often get alot stronger.

@harambae7014 Год назад

Yeah I think being taller doesn't help but if someone has long arms compared to their height it's probably easier purely due to the reduced bar path distance.

@Aryan-d6i 7 месяцев назад

I totally agree. I was avoiding deadlifts for a while because of the amount of lower back pain until I started to use the high handle trap bar. The first 2 sets of lower weight 225-315lbs I would use upside down for the longer range of motion. Then high handles for the other 2 sets 405-455lbs. My back no longer takes a beating. For Squats I do a front squat but can't go high weight because it's much harder than back squats.

@austinporter9232 2 года назад

Taller people only have a disadvantage in weightlifting in weight-classed sports. It’s the reason why you’ll never see record breaking 6’6 Olympic lifters or power lifters, but it’s also the same reason that most strongman are 6’4 and we’ll over. A larger frame means more ability to pack on muscle but also means lb for lbs you’re probably not gonna be as strong. It’s all biomenchanics. Motor strength in comparison to your lever. Need a bigger motor to pull a longer lever, hence you’re gonna weigh more.

@AmericanWrathchild Год назад

I'm 6'2 and front squats have been the holy grail for me.

@wvelker Год назад

i'll have to try these

@HimFinancial Месяц назад

I’m 6’3” and front squats are paramount

@RossLemon 2 года назад

I'm an out of shape 6'6 23 year old skinny fat lanklet and squats really don't bother me. I can probably only do 3 sets until failure of like 135 pounds though lol. And yes I do go down far enough.

@GentlemanEDC Год назад

Always felt the mechanics of being taller impacted my squat. Ankle mobility certainly comes to play but man breaking 90 has always been a challenge whereas pulling deadlift or hitting a heavy bench press I’ve accelerated at. At almost 35, my focus on lower body has become more mobility focused and just getting blood flowing vs trying to smash a record every time.

@bassplaya4196 2 года назад

I swear when I squat my knees,my lower back and ankles are in hella pain.being 6'O and over is horrible when it comes to some lifts!

@g30_shant 2 года назад

6’4 lol

@kevinwilliams8714 2 года назад

6'6 I feel you

@franciscocastillo4500 2 года назад

6,10 i get it too

@mikeglennon8319 2 года назад

6'5 1/2 i understand

@thebigone545 2 года назад

6’5 and fucked feet/ankle bone alignment I feel you king.

@YadaYadaYadadada 3 года назад

I'm 6'2. I can bench 200. But squat probably 50. I used to always wonder why. My knees would hurt and it was such an awkward motion for me.

@KeemvsKeem 3 года назад

Same. Check out kneeovertoesguy. Changed my life

@JayBrown-xs9ps 3 года назад

@@KeemvsKeem I see we have a man of culture here.

@darlenesabatka446 Год назад

Also check out squat bible 👌

@AD-jc9sj Год назад

Goblet squat for me

@ayyjayy2583 Год назад

Real

@clarity2115 7 месяцев назад

Well.. women prefer taller men so there's that :)

@oliverwarren1074 10 месяцев назад

I'd be interested to know if there is any research around muscle growth rates by height. Because if you're 6ft 5, are you really going to be growing muscle faster than someone who is 5ft 5? Or are you both going to be building muscle at around the same rate, meanwhile the tall guy needs significantly more muscle to fill out their frame, so they are going to need to grow potentially twice as much muscle? If you look at area of a cylinder or similar shape (like a muscle is), as you make that cylinder longer, to get the same proportion the area of it SIGNIFICANTLY goes up. Increasing the length of a cylinder by 1/3rd means the area of that cylinder has to increase by 237% to equal the same ratio of length to radius. So that would suggest (albeit bro maths) that you're going to need to build 237% as much muscle to get the same end result aesthetically.

@PatThomson89 6 месяцев назад

We can grow more/have a higher ceiling. But we grow at a relatively similar time to shorter people.

@elgaen555 5 месяцев назад

The long arms for dead lift sure but not the long torso. Pulling motions most of them still a disadvantage for tall people. There often a further distance to travel

@zburzycki 8 месяцев назад

I'm 6'6" and I have to use a slightly wider stance when doing sqauts. Sit-ups are something I can't do either, though it's not just because I'm tall, it's because of my genetic disorder called Marfans syndrome. Doing Sit-ups or bendind too much can tear my dural sac at the bottom of my spine causing sever spinal pressure headaches. No excuses though, sometimes just flexing my core while driving or walking keeps my core strength up!

@captainthunderbolt7541 10 месяцев назад

Specifically with a conventional deadlift. It looks way harder for guys with long legs.

@2FuNnY4uDude Месяц назад

as a tall guy, its just super hard to look massive. and at some point you can't build muscle anymore and maybe that happens before you "filled out your frame" guys that are 170cm tall will look well trained very fast. friend of mine had 32cm arms with low bodyfat and they looked great. i got 41cm arms and when i let my arms just hang at my sides, they look skinny. you wouldn't think that i lift. And my numbers don't go up a lot anymore, benching around 240, Squat 300 and deadlift close to 400, i feel like i am close to the maximum of what i can archieve (in my corcumstances. time for gym, recovery etc). its like ... disheartening to fill you your size (i'm 6'5 / 197cm tall) with muscle. and when i wear normal clothes, i don't look like i train at all. to look "big" i probably should just put on 10-15kg of fat to add volume to my body, "bearmode" it's a very subjective problem and a lot of people will say "be happy that you are tall" yeah thats your perspective and i respect that. but all my life, since i started growing a lot with 12/13 years of age, i ALWAYS felt and looked skinny

@genox1060 2 года назад

I finally get why I need to exercise even more consistantly now.

@PaulissVegan 2 года назад

how tall are you?

@seqouiaflame Год назад

6'2" guy here. Deadlift was rough at first. Tall guys have to get down so low to keep the back straight and avoid injury it can be awkward at first. But once you find the right leverage, you make quick gains.

@coach9410 6 месяцев назад

im 6'2 with extremely long arms. So deadlifts are not difficult for me, but squats sucks!

@pranavgaikwad1611 5 месяцев назад

I'm 6'2 and squat sucks tbh

@fugooop2 4 месяца назад

your not tall, your average

@seqouiaflame 4 месяца назад

@@fugooop2 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

@pranavgaikwad1611 4 месяца назад

@@fugooop2 sarcasm?

@gridrunner1319 6 месяцев назад

It’s proportions …. That’s what important …

@ethanbrown5268 Год назад

The world record in the squat bench and deadlift is held by guys over 6 feet tall, just sayin

@spaghettiman426 3 месяца назад

I feel like deadlifts are the only lift a tall guy has a disadvantage in. Cuz it’s at a set height so it’s a deficit starting point for a 6ft tall guy vs a average height guy pulling at a near knee height and even less for a midget. Just a rack pull for him. Like if you make the distance standardized at a set position in their anatomy like mid shin for a set height. And now you have people meeting it or have their unique leverages have to work with a designated deadlift plate that lifts the bar higher for a 6ft tall guy but it’s lower cuz the dude has longer legs cuz of his leverages or it’s set higher on his shins cuz this 6ft tall guy has shorter legs but long torso and arms. So imo deadlift is the only lift with a not relative rom distance. Vs a bench press or a squat where they all start at the top. And it’s really relative.

@brettmiller6167 Месяц назад

Let's end this once and for all... you people ever heard of Mike Tyson?

@omercakr9087 10 месяцев назад

me as a tall person the exercise i have issue with is push ups actually.Even tho im stronger in free weights than my shorter friends when i try to do pushups its insanely harder.

@boush5977 10 месяцев назад

damn im also somewhat tall (189 cm) i grew my muscles with dumbbells but never did pushups in my whole life

@HowieTesla Год назад

6'5 and 39, good convo,gym 4 days aweek. I find few mins on the roll Mat on each leg, plenty of hip stretching, laydown leg curl on low/med weight and some basketball style jumps a good warmup for squats.

@sonja4164 3 года назад

Great conversation guys 👌🏾

@GTBreezy 5 месяцев назад

As a 6’3 dude I hate pull ups can ever do them

@TLPWRlifter 5 месяцев назад

I'm 270 lb and can do 20 clean pull-ups with a 6'8" wingspan. I've only been training for a 16 months and training calisthenics for 6 months. Stop making excuses and get to work.

@richarddavis5976 3 года назад

What was the name of the mobility program?

@AvocadoAtrocity Год назад

The strongmen are like 6'6" 😂😂😂

@truthx7 5 месяцев назад

Yeah,and they have to eat like 10000 calories a day for that mass and strength.i think you know where I'm going

@isaiahmarquez9717 5 месяцев назад

Someone that is 5’5” compared to someone that is 6’5” and are PROPORTIONALLY the same, the TALLER person has a distinct strength advantage. Because….it’s not the arms and “levers” that are longer, the chest is bigger, the muscles are longer, they cover more area. There is just MORE of everything. If you are tall and can’t lift as much as someone much shorter than you are, you’re proportionality has most likely not reached the same level as the shorter guy. All things being equal (proportionality) there is no reason your height should not give you a real world strength ADVANTAGE.

@clarity2115 7 месяцев назад

I'm 6'1, my brother is 5'6 the amount his body has filled out already compared to me in insane 🤣

@pro-non9887 Год назад

I feel like 5'11 is the golden height.

@Vintagestylewins Год назад

Why is that ? Sorry asking because I am female 5ft11

@StFrannn 10 месяцев назад

5'11 female here too and deadlifts are quite a frustrating and complicated business for me unfortunately. Even at that "not giant hight", my back bends so it's horizontal to the floor. Long legs prevents you to reach the bar if you don't bend your legs way too much. And still, my butt is to far up. Feels like being a spider monkey, where should all my limbs go?? So, 5'11 is not the magic hight, not for me though.

@Aryan-d6i 7 месяцев назад

Try the trap bar or hex bar. way less tension on the back and with the high handles you can really load it up.@@StFrannn

@thegenius653 5 месяцев назад

You are wrong im 6ft and its hard for me to squat and bench sometimes shoulder press

@eroennes Год назад

Pure biomechanics. The amount of momental force in the joints are much larger with the taller lifter. You dont want to increase ROM, but rather decrease it. If tall people add up with more muscles, the muscles are still longer, and the M,f in the joints are still larger, so you can never make up and be equal with a shorter lifter. If we looked at amount of work done (Joule) rather than KGs/lbs lifted, todays record holders are not the lifters who has made the greatest accomplishment - strengthwise.

@danieljohnson3733 2 года назад

Mixing up simple machines. A longer lever is more advantageous to moving something. The range of motion is longer for a taller person, essentially they have to perform more work to accomplish the same lift. Also being taller puts the weight further from your center of gravity, understand your sentiment but having a longer lever is not the reason it’s harder. Otherwise love the videos

@zackavery1129 2 года назад

i came to the comments to see if anyone would point out the lever thing lol the shovel analogy was so wrong . love the show tho

@zephyrr108 Год назад

Hes not a physicist for sure.

@marcushenderson7470 Год назад

He is right actually. This is because the force is being applied through the side of the lever (such as a bicep curl or his shovel analogy). What you guys are talking about is a situation where the force is being applied at the opposite end of the lever in which case you would be correct (such as a gear stick in a car).

@g30_shant 2 года назад

Bruh honestly idc about height nigga ima do this shit I’m not 7 feet I’m like 6’4

@windycitysniper3241 2 года назад

You're tall tho.

@MichaelJohnson-mn1pb 4 месяца назад

What’s Adam’s RU-vid

@ham5483 3 месяца назад

Absolutely yes, next question

@pico2059 Год назад

Hafþór Júlíus Björnsson 👽

@kevinprowse406 7 месяцев назад

Drugs help

@sr9253 Год назад

I’m 6’3, 195 and have always had problems with squats. It hurts my lower back. Not all tall guys are that strong.

@JackSmith-kp2vs 7 месяцев назад

@sr9253 I’m the same 6’3 and I can’t do squats due to a herniated disc recurring. I’ve found that doing weighted walking lunges solved the issue of not doing squats

@The_Tall_Coach Год назад

The ankle mobility advice is much appreciated. Thank you

@Strongforce88 4 года назад

Didn't start out liking the video, but overall I think you guys had a fair conversation on it. But I will say this, because I will never buy the statement that short people have it easier. I am 5'6 and just started strongman training. I sometimes think, I wish I was as tall and built like Shaw or Thor. But I guarantee they have never been in training and wished they were a foot and half shorter lol

@nickkones3443 2 года назад

there saying it’s harder for big guys but they have more potential

@todretex Год назад

Deadlifting is way harder being tall. 6’6. Moment arm is huge. A small back is advantageous. Very very super short legs will mean you press more than hinge. A long back like I have sucks. Also you move the bar heaps more. Way more. Not less. Relative strength decreases with size increase but real strength increases. I love my long back. It gives me a real male look. Helps with a v taper and hides some fat. It sucks for deadlifting. At least at hinge orientated deadlifts. Trap bar and sumo are easier as more leg press helps. Also if I was on a fuck-tonne of gear then sure I could fill my massive frame to 160+kg. Currently I am natural and 120, down from 130kg. Small people do pull-ups small people and win CrossFit. Small people do body weight stuff well like callisthenics and gymnastics. Tall/big guys win fights just by getting out of their car and kick ass in mma. That is why we there are weight classes. Just the way the world works.

@KonnRrr Год назад

I’m 6ft and I had no problem putting on muscle it was pretty chill

@kevinchinnavadu8506 2 года назад

Disagree

@kevinchinnavadu8506 2 года назад

If you have longer arm e.g. we have more leverage. Think of a small spanner vs torch wrench. We will just take more time to put on muscle but will end up stronger in time.

@kevinchinnavadu8506 2 года назад

Just to add we just have bigger range of motion

@Blkac-pill-Black-Life 2 года назад

im 6"9 and i try to be as strict as i fucking can technique wise,i do warmups each time and im very meticulous and this osteitis pubis/hernia keeps coming back. this time i squated wide with a box,like 40-50 kgs which is nothing! and felt great,but a day after this damn OP/hernia came back again so fucking frustrating,gonna see a pt in few days.and ive been doing OP/hernia strengthening exrecises in the warm up of every workout! are there any other giants here who got tips for me? it's fucking frustrating cuz ive been raining so good for almost a months,fbw 3 times a week compound exercises

@Blkac-pill-Black-Life 2 года назад

plus i was a baller so i have an athleting background so i know my shit but still cant stay fucking healthy. the other time i had a rotator cuff pull but it's way better cuz ive been strengthening it but this damn hernia/OP is killing me and despairs me

@Blkac-pill-Black-Life 2 года назад

plus when i squated few days ago i felt my back in a great way.felt like it worked hard.and yeah man ive been working all my life on a good form in every exercise there is-and i keep working on it and still get injured!!!!!!

@N.Love.90 Год назад

I feel you on this one. I'm 6ft7 and my shoulder and ankle injuries keep putting me back. I'll recover from the injury and finally progress past my previous point before the injury, and then get injured again lol

@Blkac-pill-Black-Life Год назад

@@N.Love.90 lol fax you have OP problems as well? i think squat aint for me and my rotator cuff are fucked up too but not as my OP.i strengthen them and they get better

@N.Love.90 Год назад

@@Blkac-pill-Black-Life I personally haven't had any issues with with my OP