You really nailed it Mark. Starting with the 6 and fading into the 12 hammers the point home. I’m curious if any of your viewers ended up getting their first 12 string AFTER they found your channel. I did. I never had much luck with the 12-string probably because of being too impatient. Mark is a great player, teacher and motivator. His accessibility and how well this community interacts is a huge motivator. Five might be a little too many, but I never thought I’d have 1 and now I’m looking for another one. I believe it has made me a more well rounded player as well as a better listener. Awesome video!
Thanks so much Randy. I REALLY appreciate that. So many youtubers lose touch with their audience after they get a couple thousand subs. I work hard at maintaining relationships and I'm accessible to everybody. I think I'd have five times the subs if people knew all they have to do is email me any question, concern, lesson tip, whatever. I hope you have a great weekend. Mark
Watching Mark's channel finally convinced me to get a 12-string. I'm waiting for my Harley Benton that is on order since June but not expected by Thomann until September. I guess a lot of folk had been watching Mark's demo of the HB and decided to buy so they sold out!
@@truthstillmatters59 I didn’t have one but when I would try to play one back in the day I sounded horrible. After discovering Marks channel I really wanted to try again. My local guitar store had a few budget guitars that I just couldn’t get to sound good either. They set one up really nicely for me and that did the trick. I always knew a good setup was important but maybe more so on a 12-string.
I discovered the channel just the other week and already had a guild F512. I just order the Taylor 150e. Arrives this week. Been playing more 12 string since chatting with mark and watching his channel now.
LMAO. That's funny. Someone won guitar strings from me one time that didn't play guitar but didn't tell me. I gave them an amazon gift card instead. Have a great weekend!
I bought 12 string and I don't know how to play guitar...now I am self training my self but I find the action to be high at the 9 fret onwards...not doing any solos any time soon
Hey brother. I did that last minute and I think it took what would have been a very mediocre video and turned it into one of my best. we shall see what viewers at large think soon enough. I really appreciate the support. Take care. -Mark
Thanks so much Anthony. The morphing the 6 into the 12 was a last minute thing and I think it really brought the video over the top. Have a great weekend and take care. -Mark
@@8MinuteAxe well, you said you had 5 with 2 more on the way - that leaves two more for the Christmas wishlist…. maybe Santa subscribes to your channel ;-)
Of course! 😁 I would say the answer is a resounding YES! Now the real test, like you mentioned in the video, would be to hear songs that weren't originally on the 12 string ans see how they sound. Peep up the amazing work and rock on! 🎸
According to Rick Beato, Boston actually used TWO 12-strings on the album . 12 strings sound like a harp, so gorgeous. So many strings to change.... : (
Hey Bob. Yes, I'm a huge Beato fan (he lives about 30 minutes from me) and I've been following him since he had about 150k subs and was doing mostly jazz lessons. The two WMTSG's on Boston are two of my favs. I think my all time favorite is Ramble On. He was so into that one. Thanks so much for checking out the video and supporting the channel. I really do appreciate it. I hope you have a great weekend. -Mark
Thanks so much for taking time to catch the chat today. The morphing the 6 into the 12 was originally done just to keep the running time down. I accidently stumbled on the best part of the video.
Without a doubt every guitarist should have a 12 string. You clearly demonstrated the magical sound created by a 12 string. Since getting my 12 string I play it 90 percent of the time over my 6 string. This was such a great concept for a video. Keep them coming. Each one is better than the last.
Hey Michael. Thanks so much. The tying the two parts together was a last minute idea to shorten it. Once I did that I feel like I stumbled into one of my best videos. We shall see. I really appreciate all of the support. Take care. Mark
Mark, your composition sounded much fuller and richer on the 12 string. The Beatles Hard Day's Night got us hooked on the 12 string sound, but within a year they were double tracking 6 strings, and we really didn't know the difference. I'd say having a really good acoustic 6 string is the most important place to start. After that, well, it's up to the individual player. It's very difficult to "unhear" More Than a Feeling, or other seminal 12 string songs. My answer is you "must have" a quality 6 string acoustic guitar. Do we really need a 12 string? Some people can live on peanut butter sandwiches; most people like more variety. Another great episode, Mark. Personally, I think you must have a 12 string. Your show just wouldn't be the same without one. Take care & Peace!
Hey Michael. Great example of the double sixes is Everybodys Trying to be my baby and Lewison boom says they double tracked the intro to 8 Days. Theres definitely a difference in tone. More Than a Feeling is a great example of that classic 12 string picking but I think I that's a double tracked 12. Just for fun I tried to play the six 5, 10, and 15ms apart. Doesnt work. Just phasing. Needs to be two separate guitars played, preferably in stereo. Thanks for all the support. Take care and stay safe. Mark
Definitely a big YES. I just love the sound of a 12 string guitar. Really enjoyed this video ,your song gave me juice bumps. You rock. ❤🎸🧘♀️🕊 Peace and Much Love.
Hey Robert. If you just started playing, I would recommend that you get 6 good months under your belt and then consider a 12-string. Let's face it, learning to play guitar can be frustrating at times and anything you can do to mitigate the frustration is a step in the right direction. The 12-string requires more hand strength and more accuracy both with the picking hand and the fretting hand. I've been teaching for over 25 years and I've distilled my thoughts on the best and most effective ways to practice in a few short videos. I encourage you to check them out: ru-vid.com/group/PLHs47cXmf1DQyWozhXvRjnpduWmIbBxqf. FYI, I don't sell anything so this is not any kind of sales pitch. Everything on the channel is 100% free. Thanks so much for checking out the video. Have a great evening and take care. Mark
For sure Carmello! Did you see my video THE SONG THAT MADE THE 12 STRING FAMOUS ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-SfvYO9oPEv4.html where I say you have to draw a line in the sand before and after. I do love what bands did with the 12 in the 70s TOP 10 12 STRING SONGS OF THE 1970S! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Zq2m9uAHXTc.html but yes, the Beatles defined so many things. Thanks so much for checking it out. I appreciate your time and your comment. I hope you have a great weekend. Take care and stay safe. -Mark
Hey again Randy. Let's see here #1 Standard #2 Eb Tuning #3 Drop D #4 Open G #5 Open E #6 Open D #7 1 step down #8 Leo Kottke tuning for Vaseline Machine Gun (I currently have heavy strings on the Takamine to play that one)!
Hey Marcus. Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment. I'm sincerely glad you enjoyed it. I hope you have a great week. Please take care and be well. Mark
Randy. I know. I even had to turn the 12 string down in the mix because the disparity was TOO MUCH. And all of that is straight out of those little condenser mics that literally snap onto the Zoom recorder. Have a great weekend. Thanks so much for all of your time and support. -Mark
The sound of every song is just SO much more full with the 12-string guitar. The way you played a part on the 6 and then went directly to the 12 was an excellent, and fair, way to compare songs on both. The 12-string is great for strumming and picking, as you said. The 12-string is without a peer for picking, and hearing the songs you did reminded me of how much I need to improve my picking.
Loved it, Mark! Great job. I play a lot in Open D and Open G. Would love to see something in those tunings. I haven't done it yet, but you're convincing me that I need a 12-string! Thank you, sir!
Hey Jonathan. Those open tunings are much more inspiring when you can just pick up the guitar and play rather than having to tune. Thanks so much for checking out the video. Have a great weekend! Mark
@@8MinuteAxe I played the Rain Song on my 12 string, that open tuning is amazing but it takes quite the effort to change the tuning to Gsus (if I remember correctly) and then back to standard tuning hehe. Have a good one too and thanks for your inspiring videos
Hey Brian. I appreciate you. The pleasure is all mine. I stumbled on the morphing one into the other last minute. I think it made what would have been a mediocre video one of my best. Take care and have a great weekend. -Mark
Hey brother. Thanks so much. I watched a documentary about the contamination at one of the treatment plants in Milwaukee that caused 31 deaths. I thought of you. LOL. Travel safely and thanks for making time to watch. Mark
Brilliant piece Mark. I found that it was like hearing my favourite songs in stereo for the first time after a lifetime of hearing them in mono - Incredible (and that was with just one earpiece in place!). Reinforcing what I already knew - I really love the sound of a 12 string and this video has spurred me to playing mine a lot more from now on! Nice job Mark (yet again!)
Thanks brother. I have to tell you, I originally did each part in full on both. Initially I just wanted to save time by cutting in but what started as a fairly run of the mill idea became what I think is one of my best. We will see if the views support it, but I really like the way this one flows. I did all of these in one take with the camera rolling. I wish I had warmed up my voice a bit before singing but otherwise I think I nailed most of them. Take care. Mark
I love your channel. The videos are inspiring and I love the comparison between the 6 string and 12 string. You're very talented and watching these videos brings great joy and a smile to my face. Thanks!
Hey Javier. So sorry for the late reply. I just wanted to say thanks for your time and comment. It's very much appreciated. I hope you have a great week. Please take care. -Mark
Hey Matthew. I'm going to be reviewing the new Harley Benton Custom Line Jumbo 12 soon. $265 for a solid top. I haven't played one yet but the specs vs price are promising. I agree about Free Fallin. Thanks so much for all of your support. I really appreciate it so much. Take care. -Mark
Hey Martha. Always great to hear from you. You are one of the original supports from back when I had about 800 subs I think. Your continued support means a lot. I'll probably post the original soon. Take care and have a great weekend (what's left of it). :) Mark
Hey Jules. thanks so much. I really appreciate the positive feedback.. FYI, I'm doing my first live stream Saturday evening at 7pm EDT It's going to be a discussion about the best campfire songs and I'm hoping for a lot of audience participation. Here’s the link ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-XtcqJMX-DSg.html. Either way, enjoy the rest of your week and take care. -Mark
Man, I was just pondering this question after watching your Harley Benton RB 612CS review. As a Beatles and 60's rock fan, you convinced me to get it! I just ordered it today, thank you for your review and for your quality videos! Looking forward to that Harley Benton Black RB 612CS :)
Hey DJ. I realize with $300 guitars, quality control can sometimes be an issue which is why I didnt absolutely rave about mine but as a follow up to the review I will tell you regardless of price, I love it. It never goes out of tune and I find myself grabbing it much more than the Ric. When I did the Zeppelin electric 12 video, I recorded all but one song on the HB. It may not get that perfect ric chime, but it's more versatile. I hope you enjoy it as much as I have. Please take care and be well and thanks so much for supporting the channel. Mark
After hearing you play I don't think anyone can say they don't need one. there is such life in the 12 string and makes me wonder why I even started playing with a 6 string. Love these video's where you compare 6 and 12 string guitar with these great songs. keep it going, great stuff.
Lmao. 45s were out by the time I was of record buying age but I did get Touch of Grey. I also bought reprints of Wildfire, and Key Largo. Thanks for the amazing support. Take care. Mark
How are you? I really appreciate you taking the time to check out the video and I'm glad you got something out of it. Have a good weekend and take care. Mark
12 strings just sound so beautiful. I went to my local guitar shop a few weeks ago and played around with a 12 string acoustic. I have been thinking about that guitar ever since. It just sung, like I wasn't even playing it but just allowing it to make its incredable sound. Hopfully its still there once I get the money to buy it. I've never played a guitar I wanted more.
Hey William. It's great to hear from you. I really appreciate the continued support. I hope you're having a great weekend. Take care and be well . Mark
My God... that was a great 7:27 minute ride! Excellent song choices and your 12 string technique is flawless! Fun video and I learned a lot. I can't even imagine the time you put in to play and produce it. Thanks, Mark!
Yep,.. found your channel a week or two ago,.. dusted off my old 1971 Martin Sigma, threw on some new strings and started hungering for a 12 string again, hahaha! Can't afford one but,.. maybe I can mic it and run it through my octave and get a similar result. We'll see. Still have a few of my old toys left in a box. It's been over 30 years but we'll see how it goes. Nearly like starting all over but not quite. Ha! Thanks for inspiring this old man, Mark. Appreciate you!
Hey Bob. For sure.. Check out my video 25 classic 12 string riffs ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8Eteg4fqQ-E.html either way thanks for checking this one out Have a great day and take care. Mark
YES I NEED A 12 STRING, just like everyone that watches this video. Great job on the comparsion and great songs. Mark, this channel really motives me and makes me want to pick up my guitar. I thank you for that as others also do.
You cannot make a bad video!! (And I hope you never do lol), this video was great, man! The way you faded from the 6 into the 12 really shows the difference between the two. Personally, I love me a good ol' 6 string, it's a really versatile instrument and works like a charm in every genre and song, especially for a more intimate, James Taylor-later Beatles-Rain Song vibe, but the 12 string sure gives the 6 a run for its money! It makes any song stand out just enough to make it even cooler! Like you said, the 12 string is like bacon, everything's better with it!!
Hey brother. Trust me, I've made some bad videos. LOL. I really appreciate the support and encouragement. Don't forget first live stream Saturday evening at 7pm EDT It's going to be a discussion about the best campfire songs and I'm hoping for a lot of audience participation. Here’s the link ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-XtcqJMX-DSg.html. Either way, have a great weekend and take care. -Mark
Glad I found your channel! I'm a relatively new player, still just learning but appreciating the wonderful sounds I can make! I already treated myself to my first 2 12's - the same Taylor 150e and A Rickenbacker 330 12 - both sound awesome and are worth the extra effort to learn to play. Really pleased with my choices. I'm enjoying listening to you play.
Hey Charles. I cut out the part where I said that the only person that needs 5 is someone with a 12 sting RU-vid channel because I realized that I own about 15 6 stringers and for those that are exclusively 12 string slingers, 5 is 5 too few. Lol. Maybe if Vangoa and Harley Benton send me more I'll take a pic with them just to get close to your count. Lol. Thanks so much for checking out the video. Have a great day and take care. Mark
Ah, a southpaw. You have to be very intentional with your purchases. Even more impressive. I was always a minimalist. I toured in 2002 with a tele and a Taylor 410. We were a trio but the bass player had a guitar with him so I did have a backup. From 85 when I first started as a little kid until 2018 I owned maybe 8 guitars total. Something cracked in 2018 and I got gas full on. At least 30 guitars in the last 3 years. 🤯
Amazing video. Other "guitar comparison" authors could learn a lot from how you did this video. Brief, back and forth, continuous snippets of various songs, without much jabbering, and use of RU-vid chapters for easy navigation. On the negative side, you're hurting a lot of peoples wallets with how convincing this video is.
I’ve tried and given up too many times in the past. Because of your videos, I’m convinced that I need a 12 string. I’ve had a couple acoustic 12s that just weren’t good “players” (I’m blaming the guitars… hahaha). I’m giving it another go. Not giving up. Electric 12 in my future! Thanks, man! Great original, too!
Excellent comparison Mark- Bought my first 12 string last year - Lower end Guild for $ 499 . Never regretted it. Tougher to play but sounds so good especially when playing Tangerine ( Like you demonstrated in the video) Blessings Bro.
Mark, thanks for the video! Gives a great comparison of the sound quality between the 6 and 12 strings. I think there are certainly some songs that feel more full/complete with the 12 string. I wonder how different "Crazy on You" would sound between a 6 string and a 12 string? Looking forward to your next video!
Hey Dennis. Thanks so much for checking out the video and supporting the channel. Interesting that you brought up Crazy on You. I was going to do Rick Beatos 20 Acoustic Intros on the 12. I started recording them one by one. Got to Crazy on You and couldnt get it up to performance quality and speed on the 12 so the plan was to take a few days and get it down. The next day the video idea didnt seem nearly as brilliant as it did the day before so I scrapped it. I didnt have the Taylor 12 at the time. I bet I could do it on the Taylor. I may give it a go. Have a great weekend and take care. Mark
Thank you very much for your comparison! They both sound great. It's impossible to say which is better, each is right for the purpose one wants to achieve. 6-string is more intimate, 12-string - more pathetic.
I'm thinking about reaching out to a couple of the pedal companies to see of theu want me to test drive a 12 string simulator pedal. The effects on my two processors (one a high end dsp) suck. It's hard to reproduce the sound by just doubling and I'm not sure a dsp can just modulate half the strings. Maybe. Has anyone had any luck with getting a quality 1w string sound with a pedal. If so, email me or shoot a video and I'll put you on the channel. Thanks for the support! Mark
Wish you were here! No way on a 6 string! Great video. And you’re correct on hearing then recorded on a 12, then on a 6 isn’t really a fair comparison. A 12 always sounds so much fuller!
Thanks for the video! It's good to have both 6 and 12. 12 sounds more full, with real shimmering chorus and octaver effects. But for some songs it can be too much in the mix, so you need 6 as well. On a 6 string guitar is easier to play solos with deep bends. I have both)
I love it, i just bought recently a 2nd lag tramontante 12 string guitar, even it is old and have a small belly bulge, but the sound is still good and resonate. I love it
If anyone needed convincing of why they need a 12-string this video will leave them in no doubt Mark! Amazing how much 'richer' the 12 string sound is, even though both guitars are top quality instruments.
Hey Phillip. When I finished the first cut of the video I actually had to kind of downplay the 12 and put a little mastering on the 6 because the disparity was so great. At times the 12 sounds like it has just the right amount of distortion on it. I checked and all levels are way below peak. If you want to hear unintended distortion on a 12 string, check out my very first 12 string video. It's terrible...but RU-vid has shown it to 350k people. DOH.
OK. Another great video. I'm convinced. One problem: It takes me at least 2 years to shop and buy an acoustic guitar. This gets to a major issue for anyone looking to buy their "first" instrument. In a way, though I've been playing steadily for 32 years, I would consider my purchase of a 12 string to be another "first" instrument. Back in the late 80's, Guitar Player magazine had their first iteration of "The Guitar Player Book", which had a pretty good section on how to buy certain instruments. Of course, the issue now is that so much of that is not relevant. Materials and construction have advanced significantly from when that book was published (I'm thinking early 80's), and there is a whole set of criteria that needs to be added to the checklist for buying a 12 string. How about a follow up video to this: "How to shop for a 12 String"...
