Do You need a Heatsink M.2 NVMe Heatsink Test Results

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Do You need a Heatsink? We've completed Our M.2 NVMe Heatsink Test Results of 8 Heatsinks.
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The Problem: M.2 NVMe PCIe 3.0 vs PCIe 4.0 - Faster Speeds generate more Heat. This matters even more with PCIe 4.0, 2nd Generation.
Solution: Heatsinks. What are the Temps of each?
Test Platform:
1. Gigabyte TRX40 Designare
2. Supermicro Dual M.2 NVMe PCIe Adapter
3. WD Black SN850 SSD Drive
5 Factors Identified:
1. Passive Cooling
2. Heat pipes
3. Compression
4. Thermal Pads
1st Goal: Lower M.2 Temps on Supermicro M.2 NVMe Dual Adapter.
2nd Goal: Size of Device for use on Dual or Quad AICS.
3rd Goal: Possible replacement of Motherboard M.2 Heatsinks!
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9. Acidalie Double Copper Tube Aluminum M.2 Heatsink Cooler, NVMe M.2 2280 SSD Rocket Heat Sinks with Silicone Thermal Pad
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@AztecAryan 2 года назад

This is the best m.2 heatsink comparison on youtube, thanks for your testing. Ordered the acidalie right after watching.

@BuildOrBuy 2 года назад

Hi Carlos Rivera, Welcome! Thank You very much! This all started, Answering Subscribers Questions after We started Reviewing Dual M.2 NVMe Adapters and Quad cards. To improve those Results, swap out the default Thermal Pads for Thermal Grizzy! Success on Your Upgrades!

@JustSomeGuyLV Год назад

I'm glad this man did this test. Makes choosing heatsinks much easier.

@BuildOrBuy Год назад

Hello Karlis, Welcome! Thank You! Appreciate Your Comments! So far, We've Tested 16 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD Heatsinks. Fascinating Results!

@philodox7599 2 года назад

your channel should be HUGE I love your videos, thank you.

@BuildOrBuy 2 года назад

Hi Philodox, Welcome! I'm honored! Thank You for Watching! Appreciate Your Comments!

@tyler5598 2 года назад

Love the build, but more so, the unique products you dig up.

@BuildOrBuy 2 года назад

Hi Tyler, Welcome! Excellent! Appreciate Your Comments! Always on the lookout!

@rollingrock3480 11 месяцев назад

Great video! Thanks so much for this!

@BuildOrBuy 11 месяцев назад

Hello Rolling Rock, Excellent! Thank You for Watching!

@christopherstaples4222 Год назад

Thanks for the effort , got my SUB

@BuildOrBuy Год назад

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@24tommyst 2 года назад

This is the kinda shit my OCD brain needs. Thanks!

@BuildOrBuy 2 года назад

Hi Tommy Struz, Welcome! Sometimes We get a bit deep in the weeds! Details matter! Appreciate Your Comments!

@calebwaters6334 2 года назад

So grateful for this video!

@BuildOrBuy 2 года назад

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@LawrenceKaneshiro Год назад

This is great information. The pace and delivery are great! The presentation is engaging. Some of the jump cuts, however, are very distracting. As for what I needed to learn about heatsinks for NVMe used in a NAS it was not very helpful. But I did learn about heatsinks in desktops and laptops. 👍🏽🖖🏽

@BuildOrBuy Год назад

Hello L Kaneshiro, Welcome! Thank You for Your Comments!

@imt558delux 2 года назад

You've done a nice job over the past few weeks testing heatsinks for NVMe SSDs. Anyway, you forgot or not, would be good to to test Thermal Grizzly heatsink and EKWB heatsink for NVMe SSD. Curios to see results, especially for Thermal Grizzly because that heatsink has probably the best thermal pads.

@BuildOrBuy 2 года назад

Hi imt558delux, Welcome! Thank You! I'm glad You mentioned those. We did consider but chose not to. However, If You'd like, OK! We're all about Answering Subscribers Questions! Stay tuned!

@BuildOrBuy 2 года назад

Hi imt558delux, Answering Subscribers Questions, We've included Your Question in this Video Premiere today! Great idea! Thank You for Asking! Testing Thermal Grizzly NVMe M.2 SSD Cooler - 2 Thermal Pads ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-LtlMqxfAG00.html

@kristoffseisler2163 2 года назад

thank you so much for this video James Caan

@BuildOrBuy 2 года назад

Hi Kristoff Seisler, Welcome! Appreciate Your Comments! All of it!

@Pabula 2 года назад

Really nice testing, thanks for sharing. To me the best NVME heatsink i seen is the ineo M.2 2280 SSD Rocket Heatsink Built-in Cooling Fan [M3], at least 5c lower than the Sabrent without the fan running, with the fan running is like 10C.

@BuildOrBuy 2 года назад

Hi Pabula, Thank You! Appreciate Your Comments! The ieno is great if You don't mind the coil whine, x2 or x4! Change one thing, changes everything! Acidalie was really surprising! Thanks for Watching!

@Pabula 2 года назад

@@BuildOrBuy Have you tested lowering the rpms, or even no fan?

@BuildOrBuy 2 года назад

@@Pabula, Yes, That's why We were in the Bios. Yes, that's the 2nd part of that Video. Thanks for Watching!

@googleuser7202 2 года назад

Thanks for answering my question. My new laptop ASUS 15.6" TUF Gaming F15 Series is supposed to arrive tomorrow. I will wait for you next video

@BuildOrBuy 2 года назад

Absolutely! Congrats! Nice! Next Video In the works! Taking care of a Client Video right now!

@Erroneous-404 Год назад

Mighty wisdom from a mighty man

@BuildOrBuy Год назад

Hi Error, Welcome! I'm honored! Appreciate Your Comments! Thanks for Watching! Happy Thanksgiving!

@zachcuster7528 Год назад

Just ordered two sabrent heatsinks and wanted to look up how good they were and they are better than expected, thanks for comparing all these was a great video

@BuildOrBuy Год назад

Hi Zach Custer, Welcome! Yes, a fair amount of work! Glad We could help! Appreciate Your Comments! Thanks for Watching!

@pandaberserk3390 9 месяцев назад

i thought sabrent was some ripoff brand on amazon dam it😔

@zachcuster7528 9 месяцев назад

@@pandaberserk3390 yea i had doubts as well but they have held up good so far and havent had any high temps from heavy use

@JeriDro Год назад

You look like the guy I would see giving a polygraph test to a suspect, haha!

@BuildOrBuy Год назад

Hello DreamWarrior, Welcome! We might have to make You an Offer You can't refuse!

@TheUnchosenOne Год назад

fantastic video, thank you for the information sir

@BuildOrBuy Год назад

Hello TheUnchosenOne, Welcome! Appreciate Your Comments! Thanks for Watching!

@greynok 2 года назад

heya, ty for all your work it's awesome, do you planned to test the Be Quiet cm1 ? it will probably be one of the best !

@BuildOrBuy 2 года назад

Hi Greynok, Welcome! Possibly! If either a Viewer makes a Donation to cover the costs or sends Us the Heatsink. Either way, We'll be happy to Test! Next 2 Heatsink Tests are courtesy of Pablo! Thanks for Asking! BTW: That one is currently out of stock in USA. Be Quiet told Us they were Restocking and should be available in 2 weeks which would be October 2021. Stay tuned!

@andywray3446 Год назад

Thank you for all your hard work on this; it helped me a lot. I had been running two NVMe drives on my ASUS Prime (cheap) motherboard without heatsinks as it didn't come with any. My Samsung 970EVO Plus was running at 71C using CrystalDiskMark. I added the Sabrent heat-pipe heatsinks to my two drives and the 970 EVO Plus wouldn't go above 53C after adding the heatsinks. I found the whole install process an absolute doddle and both drives only took me 30 minutes to upgrade in total. At £23 for each heatsink it was a no-brainer.

@BuildOrBuy Год назад

Hi Andy Wray, Welcome! Thank You for Noticing and Appreciate Your Comments! Most fascinating! You have PCIe 3.0 yet the Temps of PCIe 4.0. Most troublesome news! Glad You are now below the Threshold of the M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD Drive Temperature Spec which is 70 Degrees Celsius. Anything above and that's when Disk Throttling can occur as the Drive is trying to safe its self. Glad You are now nice and cool! So far what We know to be True, We need better M.2 NVMe PCIe Drive Designs and Better Thermal Solutions for same. Clearly the faster We go the hotter We get. And have You noticed? Nothing in the market with any real Product for PCIe 5.0! And yet We've all bought into the Promise of PCIe 5.0! Crickets!

@andywray3446 Год назад

@@BuildOrBuy Ref the temps being PCIe 4.0 level: That is true of the 970 EVO Plus (it generally idles around 47 C). My second drive is a PCIe 4.0 drive running on the PCIe 3.0 motherboard. It is currently sitting at 28 C as I type this and never goes above 46 C on this motherboard. I guess this does show that they are improving the thermal performance as they bring out faster drives.

@BuildOrBuy Год назад

Hi@@andywray3446, Good observation! I think You're right on that! Let's hope those Design improvements continue. They have to for PCIe 5.0! We all should be Testing to Verify Our Usage. All about Results We measure for Ourselves and Share what We know to compare!

@CaptainScorpio24 Год назад

@@BuildOrBuy i hv asus z690 wifi d4 motherboard. i wana fill my four m.2 slots . which one i shud buy among 2tb 970 evo plus or 2tb 980 pro P.S. 980 pro lacks the nvme driver unlike 970 evo plus

@BuildOrBuy Год назад

Hi@@CaptainScorpio24, Welcome! Let's look at this according to the Specs. You have a Motherboard capable of PCIe 4.0 and PCIe 5.0. And You're asking about a PCIe 3.0 Drive? We'd recommend getting the fastest Drive. The Samsung 970 EVO is PCIe 3.0 = 3,500MBps. Whereas the Samsung 980 Pro is PCIe 4.0 = 7,000MBps. Does that help? Perception and Perspective! Samsung 980 PRO SSD 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe Gen 4 Gaming M.2 Internal Solid State Drive Memory Card, Maximum Speed, Thermal Control, MZ-V8P1T0B amzn.to/3wuOulM As an Amazon Affiliate I earn from qualifying purchases!

@granthampson5917 2 года назад

SUBBED!!! See there some interesting testing on channel. Nice testing. Ive been looking at the Graphine 4/6mm NVME heatsinks?

@BuildOrBuy 2 года назад

Hi Grant Hampson, Welcome! Just now seeing Your Comment! RU-vid did not let Us know When You Posted. I'm honored! Thank You! Graphine, We did too! Our concern, of the ones We've looked at, are the method of assembly or the point of attachment. Those Bands, We're concerned about longevity like on icepc whereas the TEAMGROUP T-Force CARDEA A440 Pro Graphene Heatsink and the Gigabyte, look more stable but there not available separately!

@salmansiddiq4521 2 года назад

great video

@BuildOrBuy 2 года назад

Hi salman siddiq, Welcome! Appreciate Your Comments! Thank You for Watching!

@ImWillyDS Год назад

You know this guy is serious when he puts on gloves and a wrist strap to minimize ESD

@BuildOrBuy Год назад

Hi Willy Dei Saptura, Welcome! Thank You! Appreciate Your Comments! You'd be surprised at those who discount the results of ESD. We need to do a Video on that Topic alone! Experience is the best Teacher! Hopefully We learn from other people's mistakes!ESD is expensive and avoidable!

@ImWillyDS Год назад

@@BuildOrBuy Great, I'm looking forward for your videos in the future discussing about ESD, especially about the type of gloves that is good to minimize ESD, as there is a lot kind of material for gloves. ESD is probably only known for people works/study in electrical engineering or work in electrical components factory. I think it's a good opportunity to educate people in public platform about the importance of preventing ESD.

@BuildOrBuy Год назад

Hi@@ImWillyDS, You're absolutely right! Right now, We're working on another aspect of Our Video Production capabilities. Appreciate Your Comments and Support!

@FerdAboubakrOnline 2 года назад

Thank you for the video, looking forward to the laptop’s installation, laptops bring more complications to the table .

@cldpt 2 года назад

it also brings a simplification to the literal table: on laptops you can most likely stack thermal pads on top of the heatsink to dissipate to the back of the laptops, which many of them will be made out of aluminum or magnesium alloy. This will severely increase the efficacy of the thermal pad as it effectively makes the entire back a large heastink for the SSD. I have actually done this myself for a Dell XPS machine on the PCH and VRMs which are known to throttle the machine, and while the laptop back did get hotter, the computer stopped throttling as early.

@FerdAboubakrOnline 2 года назад

@@cldpt I agree, although it is only possible on laptops made out of metals those aren’t that common on high performance laptops because you try to keep the machine as light as possible, so you did something similar the MacBook m1 mod ? Add a few thermal pad and fix apple engineering mistakes 😂, I was actually thinking of something like a Clevo or Alienware , those are mostly plastic with a lot of heat under the hood .

@BuildOrBuy 2 года назад

Hi 5 nm, Appreciate Your Comments! That's going to be a Project within its self. This is preliminary. Yes, We will not know what to expect until We open up the Laptop. And We have to be ready to do whatever it takes to get back up and running. Thanks for Watching!

@donjon7554 2 года назад

Ohh yeah! I've been dealing with these problems since 2019 on AMD x570 chipset. Imagine me all alone in the world who wanted to achieve 5000-7000 MB/s read or write speeds on Gen 4 x4 NVMe SSDs on a Linux operating system. No one helped. Everyone was seeing my seek for these possible at that time disk speeds as a irrationality. Well I hope they understand now that it is worth trying. Superb video!

@BuildOrBuy 2 года назад

Hi Don Jon, Great to hear from You! Been wondering if You were OK! Ahead of Your time! And PCIe 5.0, 15,000MBps M.2 NVMe Drives are coming! Thank You! Appreciate Your Support!

@donjon7554 2 года назад

@@BuildOrBuy Yes in many aspects of my life I've been ahead of my time. Thank You for noticing. It's hard to be alone even if you know you're right. I think we could tell interesting stories about IT to Your Wonderful Subscribers. For example Adaptec SCSI, buffor underruns, Kingston RAM only time, etc.

@BuildOrBuy 2 года назад

Hi@@donjon7554, You know it! You've lived it. We saw it! UART chips, IRQs etc. etc. We experienced all of it and then some! The IBM 486 CPUs with the teeny tiny cache that could not run Win95! Yep! We have a unique perspective on IT and Computer Technology!

@donjon7554 2 года назад

@@BuildOrBuy IRQ conflicts are now known as a lack of PCI express lanes don't You think? There's a good comparison.

@BuildOrBuy 2 года назад

Hi@@donjon7554 , You're spot on with that analogy! Absolutely agree! Great observation!

@ZoruaZorroark 2 года назад

good to know i had made a good choice with the sabrent, even if it's not the top dog

@BuildOrBuy 2 года назад

Hi ZoruaZorroark, Welcome! Any of these is better than nothing! Thanks for Watching!

@Pgh2Dall 7 месяцев назад

I have the Ineo on my motherboard m.2 NVME and it dropped about 10 degrees. On the Acidalie, could you maybe zip tie a fan or 2 to the aluminum and pull some extra heat away?

@doctaadam Год назад

I like your content. In your experience, what is the most spongiest and decent thermal pad that will easily compress and fill in uneven spaces where the memory chips and controller are of different heights? Also, is it better to apply the termal pad to the SSD or the heatsink?

@BuildOrBuy Год назад

Hi Adam, Welcome! I'm honored! Appreciate Your Comments! All Thermal Pads will compress. The Silicone Thermal Pads are reusable whereas the Clay like Thermal Pads are one time use. Thicker Thermal Pads compress better. Whether to cover what, in theory would be the Controller. In practice, all Thermal Pads pre-installed as well as Motherboard and Quad card Thermal Pads cover the entire area. So far, no Manufacturer only covers the Controller. Best to use a Thermal Pad with a higher Thermal Conductivity Rating. Hope that helps! Thanks for Asking!

@amitbajaj1490 Год назад

Lovely video! Btw, what’s your take on cooling an nvme with double layered pcb??

@BuildOrBuy Год назад

Hi Amit, Welcome! Thank You! Appreciate Your Comments! Interesting Question! For best cooling practices, PCBs require Heat Dissipation therefor, PCBs require Heatsinks. PCBs are not Coolers. Have You ever seen any Cooler design, made and sold using a PCB? The Goal is to reduce Thermal Resistance. Using a Thinner PCB on M.2 NVMe might be a problem with signal leakage. That's why Motherboards have moved to thicker PCBs. We use various materials to lower the Thermal Resistant thus a material with a Higher Thermal Emissivity Rating like a Thermal Pad and Heatsink. Conducting a Thermal Analysis will help in Design of Best Practices and Techniques to help mitigate the problem. We definitely need better Cooling Solutions! ASRock seems to be working on that with their new PCIe 5.0 M.2 NVMe Cooler as seen on the ASRock X670E Taichi Motherboard! We mention that in Our Video Premiere today! Hope that helps! Thanks for Asking! You must know something We are not aware of. Care to Share?

@kamudankemter 10 месяцев назад

Thanks

@BuildOrBuy 10 месяцев назад

Hi kamudankemter, We've Tested 16 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD Heatsinks with Fascinating Results! Thanks for Watching!

@Unknown-hu4gf 2 года назад

Finally, someone doing the proper things on building PC's like being grounded!!! You can always tell non educated computer builders as they don't do this!!!

@BuildOrBuy 2 года назад

Hi Unknown, Welcome! Thank You for noticing! You'd be amazed at the number of Viewers who take issue with ESD. As if ESD does not exist. All it takes is one time!

@christopherstaples4222 Год назад

most use ankle ones

@Unknown-hu4gf Год назад

@@christopherstaples4222 Bull Sh*T!!!

@tnbn55 Год назад

You can ground by making contact with the inside of the case, right before installing a component. But he is doing demonstrations so... 😊

@Unknown-hu4gf Год назад

@@tnbn55 Wrong!!!

@DrAndreaFurlan 2 года назад

Well done! From #VRAfam

@BuildOrBuy 2 года назад

Hi Dr. Andrea Furlan, I'm honored! Thank You for Watching! Congrats on Your Success!

@moham129 Год назад

Thank you for this amazing video, i have a question i wish you can help. Am buying a new nvme and i want to clone my windows to it, the problem is there is no heatsink so am afraid that it will keep over hearting since it will become my primary drive and there is no heatsink, so will it overheart so bad or i can just ignore it. I can't buy a heatsink from anywhere because of geographical issues.

@BuildOrBuy Год назад

Hi MohAm, Welcome! I'm honored! Appreciate Your Comments! What's Your Chipset Speed? PCIe 3.0 or PCIe 4.0? If the former, no big deal. If However the later, that's going to be an issue. Run A Test and Verify Your Temps. Anything below 65 Degrees Celsius is acceptable. The top for Heat on any SSD or NVMe PCIe Drive is 70 Degrees Celsius. That's when Throttling occurs. Hope that helps!

@matrixmodulator Год назад

Thanks for this video, better to use heatsink included with the motherboad or the one that comes already on the m.2 nvme drive like the wd black sn850x has already on it?

@BuildOrBuy Год назад

Hi Matrix Modulator, Exactly! Especially considering the overhead clearance of PCIe I/O Cards in proximity to the M.2 Motherboard Connectors! PCIe 4.0 is a Heat problem compared to M.2 NVMe PCIe 3.0 Drives! Going to be interesting to see how this plays out with PCIe 5.0 M.2 NVMe Drives! This latter is suppose to be Denser thus run cooler. We shall see! Denser also means more Capacity!

@matrixmodulator Год назад

@@BuildOrBuy lol i was asking if one or another is better in your opinion

@BuildOrBuy Год назад

Hi@@matrixmodulator, Was agreeing with You! Better to use what's included! Trying to Answer as many Questions as possible today! Lots of traffic waiting for Responses! And We need to be Filming next Video! I love my Subscribers!

@RealButcher 10 месяцев назад

Thanks! And, thanks for Celsius 🙂

@BuildOrBuy 10 месяцев назад

Hello Beal Rutcher, Welcome! Appreciate Your Comments!

@RealButcher 10 месяцев назад

@@BuildOrBuy I love your dismantling and testing. This is a very time-consuming thing, kudos for this!

@BuildOrBuy 10 месяцев назад

Hello@@RealButcher , Very much so yet yielding fascinating results! Thank You for noticing!

@ocarina33 4 месяца назад

hey man, I wanted to ask if you tried samsung 990 pro ssd with heatsink and the without the heatsink comparisons... The question I really wanted to ask was "Does Samsung 990 Pro 4 TB with heatsink versions fit into laptops? The particular laptop I'm asking is MSI GE66 Raider." Ssd dimensions are 80.5 mm [L] x 25.15 mm [W] x 8.88mm [H] (Samsung 990 pro with heatsink)

@BuildOrBuy 3 месяца назад

Hi ocarina33, Welcome. Great question. We have not yet. There is no blanket policy of a Laptop accommodating an M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD Drive with a Heatsink. Besides, check your Chipset. Does your Laptop Chipset support a PCIe 5.0 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD Drive. If not, for backwards compatibility, you will not achieve the desired speed results. Therefore making the question a point of diminished returns. BTW: Nice Laptop. Based on your CPU, according to Intel, that's PCIe 3.0. Not PCIe 4.0 nor PCIe 5.0. Get an M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD Drive accordingly. Like PCIe 4.0. And only expect speeds of PCIe 3.0. A PCIe 4.0 M.2 NVMe should be priced better.

@disfunkshunall 2 года назад

Amazing video. Is weight really an issue for a quad card?

@BuildOrBuy 2 года назад

Hi ak, Welcome! Appreciate Your Comments! Great Question! Talking in short hand, as weight relates to M.2 NVMe Heatsinks since We were also working on those Videos at the time of this Video. Most X16 M.2 NVMe PCIe Quad cards have a mass covering Heatsink. Some do not. The Question about M.2 Heatsinks arose about the Supermicro Dual M.2 NVMe Adapter which does not have a Heatsink. Otherwise, Great Dual M.2 NVMe Adapter! Hope that helps! Clarity! Thanks for Asking!

@ericjarvie Год назад

Im not one to argue but there's an lot to be said about thermodynamics such as even though an drive has cooling pipes but also has mass then its heat wouldn't dissipate as quickly as it does with an lessor mass also hot and cold don't necessarily converge into the lessor as warmth indeed they can remain fixed and static with both in there latent (hot/cold) stage aswell materials that differ in composition hold heat at different ranges. ..There's surely an lot more to temperature and its effect than simply measuring it though I do agree its an excellent indication of the thermal state...at least in some respects that is...

@BuildOrBuy Год назад

Hi Eric Jarvie, Welcome! Appreciate Your Comments! All about Results! We have to start by establishing a baseline of Performance through Test and Verify. We've Tested 16 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD Heatsinks. You're seeing only one of many after the fact Videos on this Topic from US. Perception and Perspective! Thanks for Commenting!

@Ignacio.Fernandez.Santamaria 2 года назад

Better thermal pad?: Grizzlie (8W/mK), Gelid (15W/mK) or Thermalright (12.8 W/mK) for using with nvme and heatsink. It´s more or less the same?

@BuildOrBuy 2 года назад

Hi Ignacio Fernández Santamaría, That's an interesting question. After Testing all three, the Grizzlie is reusable since it's silicone but has a lower W/mK value whereas the other two have a higher W/mK value but are more fragile as in, one time use. And those two seem to be made of a clay like material. Both the Gelid (15W/mK) and Thermalright (12.8 W/mK) has similar results in Our tests. Get whichever one has the better price. We used 1mm Thermal Pads in all instances. Hope that helps! Thanks for Asking!

@pandaberserk3390 9 месяцев назад

i have a adata m.2 swordfish it comes with a (aluminum heat sink ) but it gets hot. can i put a pad and a encased heatsink without taking off the oem heatsink i thinks it glued on or something. i ordered a be quiet bz002 will it make it worse?

@BuildOrBuy 9 месяцев назад

Hello panda berserk, Welcome! Interesting dilemma. What's Your status? Of the 16 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD Heatsinks We've Tested, We have others that performed better than that one. That's an odd combination. Never say never. Try it and see what kind of Results are achieved. Not ideal but We've learned enough to know everything has to be Verified! That's PCIe 3.0 and heat should not be a problem. But as We're seeing and You are experiencing, it happens. Our concern to put a heatsink on a Heatsink, might have a negative effect of holding heat instead of dissipating heat. You'll have to try it and see. Testing M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD Drive Heatsinks has yielded fascinating results!

@maxhughes5687 2 года назад

WOW Anxious to see the Gig and asus quad temps. Four drives in a raid would have four NVMe sitting side by side all cranked up and sharing just one large heat sink. Dual sided GEN4 version 2 7000MB drives all screaming and sitting between other AIC powered up. PCIe socket #1 next to a cpu cooler on your TRX40 should be a challenge. A real workstation senario.

@BuildOrBuy 2 года назад

Hi Max Hughes, Glad You mentioned that! This bring up an interesting point! To test those, We'll have to create an O/S Windows RAID. If We used a Hybrid Bios Bootable RAID, We would lose telemetry! Crazy right. We can Test that, again for consistency, on the TRX40 Designare. Should be interesting!

@nuzulamru Год назад

keren njir, lengkap. Semangat bang

@BuildOrBuy Год назад

Hello nuzulamru, Welcome! Excellent! Appreciate Your Comments!

@jamesreeve6465 2 года назад

Can't find the thermal pad comparison video.

@BuildOrBuy 2 года назад

Hi James Reeve, Welcome! Glad You mentioned that! We're working on it! After Testing 14 Heatsinks, We thought there might be more and there may still be! However, We do have enough to Test Thermal Pads with the Results We have right now! Appreciate Your patience! Thanks for Asking!

@gxsszh Год назад

Hello, I like your channel, I need help, I have used rc500 for 4 years with no problem, and observed that the ssd has been bent very slightly, what should I do? Is it okay to replace the thickened thermal pad and press it tightly?thx.

@BuildOrBuy Год назад

Hi sean zhang, Welcome! Thank You! Appreciate Your Comments! Toshiba RC500, 4 years. Good investment. As long as it still works, Yes. About time for an Upgrade to a faster M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD Drive! What made it warp? Heatsink?

@gxsszh Год назад

@BuildOrBuy Thanks reply. The rc500 has been naked,never removed. I found a gap when I was going to install the Heatsink on the rc500. I'm not sure when it was new or during use. I googled that new rc10(or sn550/kingston) will also bend.

@BuildOrBuy Год назад

Hi@@gxsszh, Absolutely! Rough going when You need help and no one responds! All M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD Drives have a bit of flex. PCIe 3.0? What are Your Temps both without and with a Heatsink? You've managed 4 years without a Heatsink. Pretty good. Hope that helps!

@MacTX 2 года назад

Since it's the controller that needs to stay cool and not really the NAND flash itself, I wonder why there aren't dual (zone) heatsink setups on the market, a beefy one for the controller and a smaller more modest one for the NAND. NAND is weird, it likes the hotter temps when it's working but hotter temps are bad for longevity when it's just sitting there. 8:40 My Dell XPS 13 laptop conveniently has nothing between the SSD and the bottom aluminum panel so I don't use a heatsink, just a thermal pad to bridge the space. The bottom of the laptop acts as one giant aluminum heatsink. 15:12 cable ties could probably work for compression, they would probably be more effective than the rubber bands these kits usually comes with.

@BuildOrBuy 2 года назад

Hi MacTX, Welcome! Glad You brought this up! You'd think, right. If You find one, We'd love to know about it! Not all Laptops have Aluminum. Many are plastic. Those rubber bands are Thermal Bands but I'm still concerned about their longevity. Cable Ties or Zip Ties, degrade with heat and become brittle and do not offer surface compression. We have an ASUS ROG Laptop to work on for another Video later! We'll see what's inside when We get there and will make note of all of that! Thanks for Sharing! Appreciate Your Comments! Stay tuned!

@donjon7554 2 года назад

Wow that is some very interesting info. Tell us some basic information if you can. Short and sweet about nvme device cooling.

@BuildOrBuy 2 года назад

HI@@donjon7554, Down the rabbit hole and into the weeds! This was most enlightening and extremely fascinating! And with PCIe 5.0, 15,000MBps on the horizon. Whew! That's some hot data coming at Us!

@pandaberserk3390 9 месяцев назад

i had no clue you could dual,quad m.2s threw the pcie slot,good thing too cause i was like what do i due now buy ssd?

@krozareq Год назад

For cost, weight and size, looks like the MHQJRH is a winner @ $10. Picked one up for a 2TB Adata XPG S70 Blade.

@BuildOrBuy Год назад

Hi Krozar TAL, Welcome! Definitely considering those prerequisites! Changing one thing like size, changes everything! Just like going from PCIe 4.0 to PCIe 5.0! Details Definitely matter! How's Your Temp Performance?

@krozareq Год назад

@@BuildOrBuy Just got it in today. Highest temp so far has been 45C. Ambient around 67F (19C)

@BuildOrBuy Год назад

Hi@@krozareq, Excellent! How does that Compare to Your Previous Temps for a Comparison?

@chrismcgraw3399 2 года назад

you should really try some pci-e antisag brackets (at least 1 or 2) for those heavier heatsinks . there are plenty of models and i would look at at fitting small fans on these either by other brackets or fitting those directly on one or more of the vertical arms to help the airflow by directing it a bit where it will be taken out via the airflow and fans in that case . just throwing some ideas on how to help fix the overweight and cooling issues on a dual or a quad nvme adapter . i hope those help a bit because if it can hold a 3090, it should hold easyly any heavy card .

@BuildOrBuy 2 года назад

Hi Chris Mcgraw, Welcome! I'm glad You brought this up! That's one option. The lack of Heatsinks on Dual M.2 NVMe Adapter is odd. And on lesser known brands of Quad M.2 NVMe Add in cards seems to be an oversight. Better know Brands of Quad M.2 NVMe Add in cards are inclusive of a Heatsink. I'm more concerned about the M.2 Connector on the AIC than the PCB. Appreciate Your Comments! Thanks for Watching!

@chrismcgraw3399 2 года назад

@@BuildOrBuy metal brackets fitted directly to hold the heatsinks may even help a bit to carry some of the heat away as well as helping with increasing direct contact and compression to the m.2 drives using gravity to your advantage. it should also relieve some stress on the m.2 connectors if placed for holding the heatsinks evenly or at least in the center but i would look to get 2 with a larger base on the side rather then at the tip of the card for stability. even with a single drive x4 adapter it may be worth it. these brackets are designed to hold and lift much heavier heatsinks than those m.2 ones and remove some of the stress due to the weight of these . 2 screws with a flat head on the arm to adjust support get even would be great, a single hole with a small enough bolt and nut might do that nicely. Or why not add a tiny bit of some thicker or slimmer thermal pad on the arm where it is needed to to do just that instead if the arm is long enough for it to reach sufficiently where it needs to and some of these have reinforced arms design.

@donjon7554 2 года назад

@@chrismcgraw3399 I use such and it helps.

@BuildOrBuy 2 года назад

Hi@@chrismcgraw3399, Great idea! We may also look into Fan brackets. Appreciate Your Feedback!

@Septfox Год назад

So a 23-degree difference for just rubber-banding a copper plate to the drive? That's pretty impressive for a set-and-forget solution that takes up practically no space. Too bad there isn't something like a bonded copper/anodized black aluminum plate for a bit better dissipation.

@BuildOrBuy Год назад

Hi Septfox, Welcome! Well stated! Plus the Thermal Pad! In a Laptop, 2 concerns, overall thickness and if there is enough space. In a Desktop, Amazing Results for something so simple! Concerned about band longevity. Expect those to eventually fail from heat exposure. Great idea for a Bonded material. Eager to perform more Tests once the market and technology for M.2 NVMe Heatsink dissipation matures! We need smarter options! Appreciate Your Comments! Thanks for Watching!

@yasmiellrodriguez248 Год назад

Does removing the Samsung (manufacturer) label help getting cooler temps.?

@BuildOrBuy Год назад

Hello Yasmiell Rodriguez, Welcome! Interesting Question up for conjecture. A nominal amount. Focus on what can yield the greatest benefit, Heatsink. We do not remove M.2 Labels due to the nature of Testing and swapping out components. If You choose to do so, that's Your prerogative. Some Labels are Designed to be a part of a Cooling solution. None of Our Installations are permanent. Your Results may vary. Always Test and Verify! Hope that helps!

@NuclearArbitor 2 года назад

The numbers were definitely interesting, although not in a good way for a lot of those drives. At some point soonish I hope to build a new computer and I think I'll come back to this then as I would like to go with NVME drives.

@BuildOrBuy 2 года назад

Hi N A, Welcome! When You get ready to Build, let Us know if You need another set of eyes to go over Your Specs! Success on Your Build! Appreciate Your Comments!

@donjon7554 2 года назад

Hello. Take it from my comments here and don't rush with it. I lost nearly 3 years of "my computer related devoted to time" trying to figure out the best option. I failed cause I think AMD got so ahead with Gen4 before Intel that the rest of the world's PC parts manufacturers have put on hold till Intel is on the same level. Just wait for Gill Boyd a.k.a. BuildOrBuy makes a video that will change your PC life for better.

@BuildOrBuy 2 года назад

Hi@@donjon7554 , And PCIe 5.0 is coming! I'm honored! Appreciate Your Comments! Hope today was a good day for You!

@donjon7554 2 года назад

@@BuildOrBuy It's good when I am able to do anything that others can for example browse the net and write with You and Your Fortunate Subscribers. I love this channel.

@donjon7554 2 года назад

@@BuildOrBuy my last comment sounds bad. Thanks for reminding me about PCI express Gen 5. Thanks to Max and You I'm no longer stressed about what shall I do with it. Thanks 👍 😊

@muhammadimtiyaz5524 Год назад

do i need heatsink for my gen 4 m.2 ssd if my mobo already have it ?

@BuildOrBuy Год назад

Hi Muhammad, Welcome! Excellent Question! Test and Verify! If Your M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD Drive is going over 65 Degrees Celsius, then definitely Yes! Check Your Temps! If Your Drive is Throttling, check Your Drive Firmware too!

@KennethDuong-mb6nn 11 месяцев назад

replace the thermal pad with some copper shim and arctic silver 5.......i've done it with two of my nvme ssd n no more heat problems.

@kararar7790 Год назад

Do recommend micro connectors low profile For ps5 i recently ordered a crucial p5 plus with micro connectors low profile heatsink what do you think about it ? Or should i go with sabrnet ps5 heatsink

@BuildOrBuy Год назад

Hi Karar AR, Welcome! Interesting Question. Of those 2, Sabrent. There's another You might try based on Design that should prove useful. Link below. 1. GRAUGEAR PS5 Heatsink SSD Cover Set, M.2 NVMe PS5 SSD Heatsink, Metal Heat Dissipation Cover, Copper Heat Pipe and Aluminum Fin for Playstation 5 SSD NVMe PCIe 4.0 Storage [G-PS5HS03] amzn.to/3IdLEIc As an Amazon Affiliate I earn from qualifying purchases! Always Test and Verify if possible! Hope that helps!

@kararar7790 Год назад

⁠@@BuildOrBuy thank you for replying 💙 But should I go with sabrent ps5 heatsink or graugear heatsink that you mentioned? What do you think?

@BuildOrBuy Год назад

Hi@@kararar7790, We have Tested the 2 You mentioned. We have not Tested the one We mentioned. However, to reiterate based on Design We expect the 1 We mentioned to Perform better. That's why We mentioned that Heatsink. Keep Us Posted on Your Progress!

@kararar7790 Год назад

@@BuildOrBuy you such a great person thank so much for being responsive and helpful ⭐️

@kararar7790 Год назад

@@BuildOrBuy I think the GRAUGEAR PS5 Heatsink SSD Cover Set that you linked better than sabrent because you always say copper is better in heat dissipation

@ZulhamS Год назад

Heatsink manufacture happy

@BuildOrBuy Год назад

Hi Zulham Syahputra, Welcome! Most definitely! We need better Heatsink Designs to choose from! Appreciate Your Comments! Thanks for Watching!

@jazzochannel 2 года назад

extrapolate Celsius? how about interpolate? can I do that? (did you mean convert :) ?

@BuildOrBuy 2 года назад

Hi jazzochannel, Welcome! To reiterate, to estimate or conclude. This one reads both: ThermoPro TP55 Digital Hygrometer Indoor Thermometer Humidity Gauge with Jumbo Touchscreen and Backlight Temperature Humidity Monitor amzn.to/3CVKPhO As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. Hope that helps! Thanks for Asking!

@BuildOrBuy 2 года назад

@edgarsnezinu1439 2 года назад

Nice job excellent review but mine samsung 970 evo plus hits 61 c max on controller with motherboards stock heatsink ... lol

@BuildOrBuy 2 года назад

Hi Edgars Nezinu, Welcome! Thank You for Your Comments! Remember, Your Samsung 970 EVO Plus is PCIe 3.0, 3,500MBps. Faster M.2 NVMe Drives run hotter! Thanks for Sharing!

@edgarsnezinu1439 2 года назад

@@BuildOrBuy Oh damn my bad ...sorryyy hehe

@BuildOrBuy 2 года назад

Hi@@edgarsnezinu1439, That's alright! Perception and Perspective! Appreciate Your Comments! Thanks for Watching!

@maxhughes5687 2 года назад

Gigabyte's quad card with dual fans is the future. And GEN5 drives clocking 14000 each may need a water block for sure. I'm going to need more 420mm rads. I finally got a deal on a P/S and it's time to save up for a 3955WX.

@donjon7554 2 года назад

Dude thanks for sharing your thoughts on PCI express Gen 5. I know now that it's not worth for me cause my home lab won't take any more heat. You helped me out so much! Thank You!

@maxhughes5687 2 года назад

@@donjon7554 Hi Don. Thanks but it's just my best guess. Utube channels are already crying temp increase for GEN5 and DDR5 RAM and no one has any to test. Well, at ZEN2 we got temps that throttled the cpu. ZEN4 Ryzen is rated at a TDP of 170 and ZEN3 TR is said to be a TDP of 280. IDK. Get the biggest case/rads/fans/ P/S /copper water blocks and the best D5 pumps you can find. Sit down, strap in and hold on. The launch count down has begun. T-10, T-9, T-8,.... best wishes dude.

@donjon7554 2 года назад

@@maxhughes5687 Wow! You answered! Thank You. Rarely someone replies toy comments. It's so nice. Your best guess is already enough info for me because if gen4 is producing that much heat that I already can't get rid off then PCIGEN5 will be a no go for so many reasons. One I already invested all the money I could in Gen4 and I can't sell it because I'm a handicapped person now. The transaction procedure would be cancelled by a potential buyer due to random loss of my concciussness. I have post covid brain damage.

@donjon7554 2 года назад

@@maxhughes5687 BTW what is the temperature that throttle the Ryzen 3900X CPU? And what voltage I should have it on in non auto non offset just straight Vcore type in value put in mode? Sorry for asking but my brain damage will not filter Google search results.

@donjon7554 2 года назад

Ohh and dear new net Friend can you tell my why virtual machines in ramdisks don't run as fast as RAM speed? For example if you have 64 or 128 GB of RAM on a Zen 2 PC. Your operating system is Win10 and you create a 80GB ramdisk and you install VirtualBox on that disk and you copy win10.iso on the ram disk and you start your VBox installation of that .iso to the ramdisk the installation is fast but not as fast as is should be taking into account how much much more RAM is faster than a GEN4 super fast nvme disk. It's so strange. The installation should take only as much time as you need to do a mouse click on every installation page. Booting the installed Windows and working in it should also be in one second at maximum. I wonder what's wrong. Same happens in Linux and on Intel 11gen desktop PC's. I didn't test it on HEDT platforms cause I had all the PCI lanes and ram needed to do it on super mainstreem Zen2 and Intel11gen. Can you please at least tell me what you think is the problem? I saw a YT video that used one other than Virtual box software and the results were the same. I didn't watch all cause again, I'm very limited by my illness.

@jimbrannan5825 2 года назад

I hope you use different brand NVME ssd's. I had one that overheated and throttled after 8 minutes and shut down file manager with error codes. It was a PNY or inland I believe. Keeping to one brand would be unscientific.

@BuildOrBuy 2 года назад

Hi Jim, Welcome! All an issue of time. We tested with the WD Black SN850 for consistency. PCIe 4.0, 2nd Generation. This culmination of Heatsinks was Answering Subscribers Questions about Dual M.2 NVMe Adapters. Thank You for Your Comments.

@FerdAboubakrOnline 2 года назад

It’s actually scientific to keep the same ssd , and the same case , and the same everything as much as possible, because the tests are meant to evaluate the heatsink’s performance , if you keep swapping ssds then you’re not keeping it apples to apples !!!

@donjon7554 2 года назад

Watch out for PNY drives. They seem to slow down after 4 TB TBW or temp throttle or have very difficult to achieve speeds. They look good on paper. In practical experience they produce more problems than they resolve. Watch out everyone!

@BuildOrBuy 2 года назад

Hi@@FerdAboubakrOnline, Thank You! Absolutely concur! This was an amazing rabbit hole to explore! Well worth the time. Results! Appreciate Your Support!

@BuildOrBuy 2 года назад

Hi@@donjon7554 , Good to know! We have not touched PNY M.2 NVMe Drives. Odd considering they are the only one making the NVIDIA RTX A series Workstation GPUs. Hmm...

@UnniG 2 года назад

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@BuildOrBuy 2 года назад

HiMee 2# G, Appreciate Your Comments! Thanks for Watching!

@UnniG 2 года назад

@@BuildOrBuy Thank you very much, i always learn a lot from you⭐️🌹

@BuildOrBuy 2 года назад

Hi@@UnniG, Thank You! I'm honored! Experience is the best Teacher! We all learn together by doing and share what We know!

@shorty808100 2 года назад

Wow a grounding strap someone who actually knows how to build a PC yeah im PCI4 I ordered my heat sink today before my pc get here

@BuildOrBuy 2 года назад

Hi Smokey Yunick, Welcome! Thanks for noticing! You'd be amazed at the Viewers who want to take issue with ESD essential practices even after point out book and verse those details. Appreciate Your Comments! Details matter!

@outlander5151 10 месяцев назад

I Did not know m.2 heatsinks were important

@BuildOrBuy 10 месяцев назад

Hello the OUTLANDER, Welcome! Depends. More so the faster We go, Yes! Always Test and Verify! Appreciate Your Comments! Thanks for Watching!

@rc08zzr600 Год назад

What a fucking gangsta.

@BuildOrBuy Год назад

Hi UnluckyAnimal, Welcome! Thanks, I think!?! Details matter!

@donjon7554 2 года назад

Gill please take a look at Max's answers to my ramdrive calculation of system speed that's running from ram only. Please put your ideas on why we don't see the theory in practice? A Windows running from ram should be as quick as ram so that means thousands of times quicker in anything, for example file transfer when you copy paste something on a desktop folder containing a few GB of storage space. Calculating the transfer there's a huge difference. A difference of 10000 times for example. Why do we only get 3 times better Windows speed if it runs from ram than if it runs from normal SSD installation. It should not be 3 times faster but 10000 times faster. Why do we have that? BTW we start measure when all is loaded into ram. We don't factor in the time we need to start the PC from disk and copy the .iso and virtual machine software into a ramdrive that is created after the windows finishes in it's logon from SSD.

@BuildOrBuy 2 года назад

Hi Don Jon, Max has real world experience. This is like talking about Specs which deal with Burst mode instead of actual sustained throughput. A Percentage of Perceptual Improvement in Performance. There's Processing Overhead.

@donjon7554 2 года назад

@@BuildOrBuy please write it more easy to understand :-(

@BuildOrBuy 2 года назад

Hi@@donjon7554, Sorry about that! Max has the best real world example since he has that experience. I think there's a difference in theoretical vs real world Results. Hope that helps!

@donjon7554 2 года назад

@@BuildOrBuy Ohhh. Yes. I get it now. Thanks. However please help us. Throw some ideas. Please.

@BuildOrBuy 2 года назад

Hi@@donjon7554, That's a great question! Thank You for Asking! I'll give that some thought. We might have to do a Video on that Topic! Right now, Premiere Video today Answering more Subscribers Questions about Heatsinks! Stay tuned!

@danielmoreira4576 7 месяцев назад

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@BuildOrBuy 7 месяцев назад

Hi Daniel! Welcome! Busy man!

@jollygreen4662 2 года назад

So I want a pcie m.2 card. Add two m.2 sticks as a raid 1 on a pcie slot connected directly to the cpu. And a 3090 gpu connected to the cpu. I am Gonna look for a mobo that has two pcie4 slots that allow me to do that

@maxhughes5687 2 года назад

With an X570 mobo using the first two PCIe sockets, they both drop to X8 GEN4. You might prefer Gill's TRX40 platform. Two X16 sockets and two X8 PCIe sockets all GEN4 throughput.

@BuildOrBuy 2 года назад

Hi Jolly Green, A Motherboard with dedicated PCIe Resources. You need 1 x16 and 1 x8, electrically. Max is right! For the most part, that's a TRX40 HEDT. If You can find an x570, maybe ASUS with 1 x16 and 1 x8, electrically. That might work! Keep Us Posted on Your progress!

@BuildOrBuy 2 года назад

Hi@@maxhughes5687, Absolutely concur! Best value going! Thanks for taking care of this! You have my vote!

@jollygreen4662 2 года назад

Thanks guys. Seems there is no way around a threadripper. I guess I have to head toward the directions you guys are steering me towards

@BuildOrBuy 2 года назад

Hi@@jollygreen4662, Absolutely! Here to help! TRX40 HEDT is the best value! Look at the PCIe Resources!

@sL1NK Год назад

Copper would only make sense with full-on contact & thermal paste to fill the gaps. Putting these super cheap, bad quality 1 w/mk fake chinese thermal pads on copper, is like using a 13900K with 4gb single channel ram for gaming. It basically creates a thermal conductivity bottleneck. Maybe with proper pads, but again, thermal pads are like 5-15 w/mk, while copper is 400 w/mk, thermal paste would pretty much help a lot.

@donjon7554 2 года назад

Help please I can't search it on my own due to post covid brain damage. If anyone can tell my why Windows in a virtual machine that is on a Ram memory (ramdisk) is not as fast as the ram speed? It's only 2 or 3 times faster than running from a GEN4 NVMe disk where it should be 10 or 100 times faster because that's how faster RAM memory to disk memory is. Maybe even faster. Compare Ram read and write speeds with disk read and write speeds. Something just doesn't add up here. Anyone has a guess at least, please reply. I can't do searches and watch yt videos (illness).

@maxhughes5687 2 года назад

Hi Don. My limited experience with RAMDISK on an AMD Threadripper with Windows 10 was 3500/3500 on an old mobo with GEN3 PCIe lanes. My Ramdisk from DRC clocked 8000/8000. GEN4 drives on GEN4 PCIe lanes clock 5000/4400. That is all on a first generation TR with QUAD channel ram. An AMD mobo with dual channel ram would be down to about 4000/4000. Some Linux distro's create and boot to a ramdisk and the O/S selects what to put on the ramdisk. For general use Deepin 15 beta on an old Bulldozer was as fast as a Ryzen 1600X with faster ram and NVMe boot drives. On a VM IDK. If you delegate only a fraction of your system resources to a VM, then I'm lost as to what runs that machine. Is it your Dataram or a boot partition on a slow drive?

@BuildOrBuy 2 года назад

HI@@maxhughes5687, Thank You! Very Much Appreciated!

@donjon7554 2 года назад

@@maxhughes5687 wow, what a great huge answer. This could lead us to a whole new branch tree of conversation. My setup was and is AMD x570 chipset MB, Ryzen 3900x CPU AM4. 64 GB of total DDR4 RAM 3200 CL16 and Nvme boot drive gen 4 x4. The boot drive in Crystal Mark for Windows got 5000/4400 MBPS. The RAMdrive based on that ram I mentioned before scored 9000 / 8000 at minimum. I got it to 14000 / 11000 seq speed on a 32GB file sample. Ask me again if I didn't answer your question completely. BTW in Linux the same sample transfers from same nvme drive to Linux ramdisk at 2100 MBps. From Ramdisk to nvme at 2700 MBPS.

@donjon7554 2 года назад

@@maxhughes5687 I've been thinking about our discussion about ramdisk and I think we should restart it cause we didn't understand each other. For main thing is that it doesn't matter on which generation PC a person wants to run a virtualized operating system in ram memory as long you have enough ram for Host OS and Guest OS combined. PCI resources discussion starts and ends on this provided that the CPU is 64bit and it has at least 2 logical processors. So a i3 would do the trick. You start your Host operating system from any kind boot drive. Then you create a ramdisk and install a virtualized Guest OS. Now the fun part is that if the .iso file was put in the ramdisk alongside cm software and guest OS installation destination folder it should go as fast has jaguar on any kind of machine from any kind of year that meets the amount of Ram and CPU requirement. Now, since any ram will be always faster than the best SSD drive the same PC can handle the installation process of guest OS under the rules what to put on the ram drive first (VM software and guestOS.iso file) very fast. Not only the installation will be very fast but the operations and for example applying Windows Update inside the Guest OS will be faster than doing it on the SSD drive of the PC. So that means Guest OS Windows would be much faster in accual install pages of the install setup than if you would install windows alongside host os or as the host OS itself. Can everyone understand the point here? That such Windows installer and updating it is faster in RAM than a disk. RAM is a kind of memory that's so much more faster than any kind of SSD that can work on a given PC. The bad part and my pain is why that installation setup when started isn't as fast as the retired software Aida Benchmark RAM speed says? It says that ram speed to drive speed ratio is like 1000 to 1 or 100000 to 1. So why my damn windows in ram memory is installing at 3 to 1 ratio only? Or 10 to 1 at best? This makes no sense right?

@maxhughes5687 2 года назад

@@donjon7554 It's over my head but too small a ram for either O/S will start using a backup space on the slow storage drives. What generation system you use will limit how many ram channels on the board. Quad channel ram is 2x the speed of dual channel ram. Eight channel ram is 4x the speed of dual. Ramdisk speeds also quadrupled with eight channel ram.

@helthuismartin 11 месяцев назад

No not for games.

@BuildOrBuy 10 месяцев назад

Hello helthuismartin, Welcome! Depends. Always Test and Verify! Thanks for Watching! Appreciate Your Comments!

@septicwhelk3654 10 месяцев назад

It's actually centigrade ! The Celsius scale goes from 100 degrees freezing to 0 degrees boiling . at your age your should know better your not a morenial .

@89MTN Год назад

no you dont

@BuildOrBuy Год назад

Hi 89MTN, Welcome! That depends! Not on PCIe 3.0, very much so on PCIe 4.0! Appreciate Your Comments!

@89MTN Год назад

@@BuildOrBuy if you use the m2 for gaming and have a good airflow in your case nothing bad should happen

@BuildOrBuy Год назад

Hi@@89MTN, If using PCIe 3.0 M.2 NVMe PCIe Drives, all should be OK but always Test and Verify! Your Results may vary. This gives You something to compare for a baseline configuration of what to expect given the same situation or Configuration! Hope that helps! Great Questions!

@Noname-yu8qw Год назад

it works better if you don't put the termal sticker throught the entire disk

@BuildOrBuy Год назад

Hi noname, Welcome! Are You referencing the Thermal Pad? We're using the Full Thermal Pad for even compression. Thank You for Your Comments! Yes, Memory vs Controller. The Controller is a smaller portion in relation to Memory.