Great video Classy. Absolutely love your statement “HDR content is designed to be viewed in a very dark room”. I have to force SDR for most of my viewing due to lighting conditions.
Facts upon facts dropped here Classy. The amount of time I have heard this, HDR10+ is the same as Dolby Vision, oh my Samsung tv is bright I don't need Dolby Vision , is beyound believe. It like people are trying to justify their purchases, so will make every excuse there is to make themselves feel better, knowing their set doesn't support Dolby Vision. People need to stop accepting the bear mininum and start asking questions so companies like Samsung will stop getting away with thinking Dolby Vision is not needed.
@@hypno18s not really, HDR10+ is Samsung stubbornly trying to tell everyone they don’t need Dolby Vision but they do and there isn’t enough content supporting their HDR10+. Furthermore their version is way too over brighten, that not what it was meant to be.
Thanks for this. Now I know my new tv will be either G3 or 95L with dolby vision. Im confused with what DV IQ Precision is? Is it just another setting for Dolby Vision ?
It’s an AI enhanced dynamic setting basically and for a discerning viewer does indeed make quite some distinguishable difference in mostly detail clarity and pop which really gives a wow factor even after regular and consistent viewing of this wow factor type of content
Way to go Classy. I really thought that Dolby Vision IQ would only adjust the brightness according to lighting conditions, but as you’ve shown, it’s also adjusting shadow detail. As you pointed out, this makes more sense in a bright environment, so using Dolby Vision IQ in daytime viewing can be useful.
I have a Sony A80J and I check both Dolby Vision Bright and Dark as sometimes it's calibrated for Dark and actually puts out a brighter picture. House of The Dragon is one example off the top of my head.
I believe this year even Classy should be teaming up and siding with Team Sony, due to 120 HZ Dolby Vision Gaming and much higher peak Brightness. G3 just being a brighter G2 (from all the indicators I've gathered so far) will be a quite boring TV as it won't be able to reproduce QD Oled colors. Samsung S95C - the disappointing Rtings review that was just released, indicating that SDR Brightness is lower than S95B, PQ EOTF Tracking actually worse this year + some other minor downgrades and plus no improvements in Processing at all, means still shitty Low-bit content experience I was firmly set on trying to give Samsung a chance this year, but now my eyes are fully set on the - what looks to be a quite epic TV - Sony A95L.
Respect the consistency, also would love to hear your opinion on Sonys new lineup for this year. Specifically interview with Sony and Brian Tech 💯 ✊ * Hulu has HDR10+ and looks great. I use this service a lot
@@bdbestxyzIII I agree. I'm still using my 1080p plasma because it just looks right. There is no black crush and the average picture level is fantastic in a dim room
You think it's dark because OLED tvs are utter trash because they are way too dim you can't see anything. Sony Mini LED blows OLED tvs out of the water because you get the brightness
I would say we need a A95L comparison similar to this. Comparing HDR10 and DV on a display that is already capable of properly rendering 1,000 nit HDR10 correctly without clipping
@@ClassyTechCalibrations True but very little real content out there is pushing full screen luminance that high. And I thought even last year's QD-OLEDs handled that better and this year's should be even further improved. I was mainly speaking to the majority of content which only uses those 1,000 nits for pops of brightness here and there. Which are areas where tone mapping tends to stumble and make stuff look a bit weird
I think DV is a great feature when done correctly. I always use DV using internal apps and 4k discs on my Sony A80J. However, I believe that DV Bright and DV Cinema Home on LG is crucial for best viewing experience. I would never use it with DV Dark.
Don't know about Oled, but on Sony LCD, DV Dark with moderate ambient light is best preset. DV bright can look good on some shows tho. I even tried DV bright but lowered the brightness, still Dv dark was just better.
DV IQ on my Hisense OLED is locked to soap opera motion, I hear it's the same on Panasonic OLEDs as well. Is that the "feature" of DV IQ? I know these OLEDs are not sold in the US but DV IQ settings should be universal.
Nice content classy see I want to know why the qn95b versus the s95b the color volume is different and the coverage is different but they both using quantum dot color filter very surprising
I'm really new to this kind of technology from plasma tvs. I have a Hisense 65U8H and when I get 4K videol, it's all greenish and pinkish. Any suggestions?
If Hdr10+ was the better format, than why all the big streaming platforms and cinemas play in Dolby Vision? Samsung is just stubborn, just how lg was back in the days when they had no DTS!
Thank you, Classy! Awesome, per usual. Do you have a sense yet about how meaningful the difference will be between last year's a95k, G2 and this year's a95l and G3?
@@ClassyTechCalibrations Thank you for the reply. I will be buying over the next month or so. Leaning A95K. I will use your affiliate link for that purchase. Already a subscriber.
I get sick of anything has Dolby, the best thing they know is producing a delay in the picture, and for Atmos delay in the sound I recommend using the original format for picture and sound
There’s a distinct difference between the Dolby vision on a Sony tv and an LG tv. The LG DV content seems far better. I’ve had both the Sony and Lg oleds.
@@ClassyTechCalibrations Yea, I get what you mean. I actually forgot Xbox has it on some games. I'm on PC, the only time I got it to work was in Mass Effect Andromeda, on the LG 42 C2, couldn't tell the difference between DV and HDR10
Do Calman custom tone mapping curves affect Dolby Vision too? I’m finding a lot of DV content is too dark on my LG A1, especially if it’s mastered dim.
You can adjust the roll offs on the LG's thru calman right? Would that allow you to retain more detail in the highlights closer to DV, or would it still be too far off.
I must have the option of both DV and HDR10, Samsung was my go to brand for some time but them not having this option cancels them out all together for me. DV for movies, everyday TV and HDR for gaming on LG C2
@@NexGenTek The brightness debate is a preference honestly so it’s great for me on LG even in well lit room, I still end up turning it down quite a bit. Did the same on Samsung. I have sensitive eyes and prone to headaches on overly bright screens.
On LG C2 with Dolby Vision on Series X, the brighter EOTF is really useful in almost all HDR games which have in game setting sliders. It just looks too dark on HGIG even in dark room. And DTM just blows the specular highlights. And this was all calibrated based on your settings. Much Appreciated, in many cases games with in game HDR sliders look near Real Life compared to HGIG. But the brighter EOTF case is apparently only true for games with in game HDR sliders and not for the Auto-HDR or Xbox HDR Settings utilising games.
Imo dtm is destroying the contrast impact and highlights pop. Unless the game have a bad hdr or lacking settings, i'ts hgig ftw if your room is dark enough. DTM is usefull in older hdr games that only have a paper white slider for hdr. Good exemple are Far Cry 5 /New Dawn. Without DTM there's a lot of clipping.
Fantastic video. When you refer to earlier TVs that did not do DV correctly are you referring to TVs that only do “player-led” DV, like the Sony X950H? How would a TV with player-led (low latency) DV have looked compared to the HDR10 and DV modes you showed in this video? Thanks!
@@ClassyTechCalibrations i didn’t realize the A80J and A90J DV implementations were incorrect. And on my other question do you think a player-led DV TV like the X950H would fair any differently from the DV you showed in this video? How so? Thanks!
No the video processor matters which is why Sony tvs are head and shoulders the best while LG is trash. Sony invented the standard for color spectrum in tvs and calibration.
@@x1mmx LG is trash. Their video processing is a masquerade. Ask anyone who works at best buy, the number one OLED that breaks down are the LG Oleds. People buy them because they cannot afford sony oleds.
How do Sony OLEDs compare vs LG? Why is LG handling DV well …or , what are they doing well vs Sony? Ive heard you recommend hdr10>DV for Sony OLEDs a80j+k.
Its a long discussion but is more accurate with DV and has better support for it, as well as better calibration support for DV. The A95K addressed most of this though.
