Do You NEED Faster Ethernet? 

LOL yup... nowadays it's TBs of data. For that I'd like 2.5gb+ connections.

Worth noting that those were GB and not Gb. Data storage is denoted in Gigabytes, which are 8x larger than Gigabits, which denote transfer speed. So I guess you can say those drives were 320 and 640 Gb

Well there was the same feelings when the first GB capacity drives came on the market. "Over a Giga Byte! Why would we want that?" But pretty soon someone mentioned that now you could transfer the entire content of a CD to the HDD and the game would load faster and (with a no CD crack) you didn't have to dig out the game CD to play. Then it suddenly was: "Only a Gig? I want more! I have at least ten CD based games, and three of them uses multiple CD's..."

In mid 2000s i quickly realized that i would need TBs of hard drives to keep all the movies and series i was downloading back then. 😂 The evolution has gone slow on big consumer hard drives

I have single movies files bigger than that now

3 Gbps saturates SATA, fyi.

I just ran into that considering most HDDs run up to 200MB/s a NAS is bottlenecked by 1Gbps LAN.

Still confused at that conversion. Why is byte used in network speeds? What is the calculation used to know the actual speed?

@@CuT7yFlaM 8 bits to a byte bro.

@@9peppe Because nobody use multiple drive and cache them with a SSD in their NAS you're gonna say

Most common in big cities. Meanwhile in smaller towns and farmlands would have as little as 50MB/s speeds.

I live in Alaska and have 2.5 gigabit internet. I legitimately cannot believe there are places in the lower 48 that don't have gigabit. Before living in AK I was in an 8k person town in rural Montana and still had gigabit internet.

@@dbousq this is a bigger surprise than Microsoft buying Activision Blizzard today. You're kidding Alaska has access to gb Internet!? What ISP do you have? I'm assuming it a local municipal owned network?

Agreed. I live in Germany. I got myself a 10g setup to transfer data (Backups/Games/Movies) to/from my server. My internet only does up to 250Mb/s and I live in a city. If I were to live out in the boonies I would be stuck with a connection speed of 10Mb/s or less.

I live in the middle of nowhere, in the woods. We have to use (up to) 12 mega *bit* internet. I really hope something will change to that soon.

Cries in German with a the best plan available at only 0,25G

In spain now you can have 10Gbps

Msi b550 tomahawk gang

I was happy to finally have entered the 25mbps territory.

10 gbs is coming to USA. Just gonna take some time to get the fiber laid.

I got 10Gb internet, don't want to imagine 1Gb 😂

We pay for 12mbps but we usually get 6-7mbps only. Imagine shsring that with 4 family members.

That’s rough. I can get 2g up and 1g down for 100 a month thanks google. I get gig up and down rn

1 Gbit/s is 125 Megabytes per second download speed. From my information countries like Denmark, Sweden, Norway and Finland easily push 1Gbit to homes, sometimes even more. Here in Germany (depending where you live) 1Gbit over Coax is possible (I live in a small 10k city and can get those speeds), fibre mostly is up to 500 Mbit (62.5 MB/s) and DSL 250 Mbit

immagine?

I have a large NAS with TB of data and a multiple PCs, and I still have 1Gbps due to the expense of the extra hardware. 1Gbps works fine until the once in a while I move lots of files all at once (maybe every few years, or when I need to redo an array?)... then i just have to let it run a bit. That's one reason I think these higher speeds take so long to push out. Not many actually need to transfer large amounts of data in a short time. It would be nice, but not hundreds of dollars worth.

Bro how u doing, been a while since i saw you around. Do u remember me?

Cheap used enterprise switches can be purchased off eBay. I was able to get 10gb fiber from my pc to plex server.

I have 2gbit and can confirm, for a single user there isn't much where you will be seeing any benefit from it for consumer use. Steam can go higher than 1gig but that only saves you a few minutes in a big download but most sites are well under 1gig. If you had a large family, there might occasionally be some benefit.

Exactly. People buy superfast internet packages and then blame the ISP for shitty download speeds, when in fact it's the shitty websites' fault.

If it wasn't for Link Aggregation enabled on my SB8200 modem, and my Asus RT-AX88U able to do 2Gbps WAN Aggregation, I'd never be able to take full advantage of my ISPs 1.2Gbps download tier. Funny thing is, is that Comcast has labeled the SB8200 modem as not appropriate/approved for that speed tier. I think they know better, they just probably don't want to have to try to explain to the average customer about enabling LAG in the modems settings and having to have WAN Aggregation capable router and etc. I mean, sure, I can't get above 940ish mbps on my computer or any LAN device due to the 1Gbps ethernet limit of the router's ports, BUT by using a speed test on my Note 20 Ultra using WiFi, while simultaneously running speed test on my ethernet connected computer, the total speed added together comes up as 1,260mbps down. 826mpbs was my PCs result, and my phones was 434mbps.

The send juice through the data lines.

Electricity

Science! That and black magic voodoo witchcraft

It might be boring because PoE+ is super simple, it just use some of the already present leads in your ethernet cable to transmit power + ground, when plugging your cable in the port that is marked (PoE+) the energy is automatically sent if your device request power through ethernet.

I know that the skill tree in Path of Exile is big and terrifying, but when you get a closer look at it, you see that there are nodes that fit your build better.

That's actually a very good suggestion. Already liked so Techquickie see this!

Who asked you?

@@Morzsaszar you're mom

@@xSO20 yes, he is mom.

Not gonna lie I was halfway across the room, briefly glanced at the TV, and thought I was still playing MW2019 because I swore that was Cpt. Price, with James’s voice

Surprised I had to scroll so far down to see a beard comment!

@@haydox same, man's beard is wild

I have 2gbit and my steam tests max out at about 1.4gbit. You have seen faster? Only single connection thing I've seen max my 2gbit test is Windows ISO download.

@@curtisbme I think it's because their server here is so close to me (only about 25km away) and we've got a good fiber backbone too. The ISP is also incredibly close. I think I got lucky geographically. Outside of that, like if I connect to Best Buy's Canadian page to do some price comparisons with stuff here, I'm back in slowsville.

@@mbralliable I live less than 5 miles from Valve HQ so I don't think I could be closer. ;-). I only tested a few titles so it may have just been a limitation of the titles or the time I was testing it. I'll have to give it another monitored run on some titles to see if i can max it out.

@@curtisbme Well for one you could be 4 Miles away!

How many lanes?

But also find out about the maximum cable lengths for 2.5 Gbit and the classification of your cables (CAT 5e, 6,...).

Cat5e will be enough for a long time. You can even run 10 gig over it although it's not officially supported. I've seen plenty of people do it and they never had problems.

If you're running CAT5e or CAT6, unless you live in a very large home, your cabling is capable of 10Gb/s. CAT5e will run 10Gb/s to 35m, CAT6 will go to 55m.

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AHEM, Century Link is a JOKE!!

@Qefna Ija just why do these bots go though the spam filter

I have that exact same 10 gigabit switch in the video with 2 ports. It's liking my freenas server with the rest of the house, and a direct ten gig link to my pc with an old x540-T2 intel nic. It actually does benefit from faster speeds since it stores my steam library and has nvme cache Launching games or reloading checkpoints feels no different to an internal SATA SSD, and the latency is pretty decent. When I had the same setup with normal gigabit, it would take 5-10 minutes to launch a game. I still remember Payday 2 wouldn't even load...

You get 10? Licky

Fiber optic is only capable of around 10gbps

@Gijs Fiber generally has never been that expensive...ive you know where to look

@Gijs fiber is even cheaper than regular copper CAT-cables. The major downside of fiber though is that equipment to make your own cables is expensive where it's cheap to make your own network cables. Another thing that makes fiber a pain in the butt for local networking is the fact that you would need optic transceivers which are about 30 bucks for a single mode set and a bit more for multimode.

Only to the big cities is where 1gbe has became mainstream.

@@ChronikCarlos You can get 40gbps fiber uplinks fairly easy and they only require a single pair of fiber strands. Trying to do 100gbps is a bit harder in that you typically need to use pre-made cables and it normally uses 4 pairs of fiber.

You can have faster connections if you're lucky enough to live in an area with fiber optic connections. But I think everything over 1 Gbit/s is currently only available as an expensive business connection.

@@JohnADoe-pg1qk there are no such areas ... Ok, something like 0.00001% of households could get it maybe. But even in Munich or Berlin, the availability is basically nonexistent.

Yikes. The lowest i can get is 100 Mbit/s for 15$ in Sweden. I can "only" get 1000/1000 Mbit/s. 1000/500 Mbit/s costs 57$ where i live. Up to 1000 Mbit/s is pretty standard. 10.000 Mbit/s is starting to roll out since 2018. 100.000 Mbit/s is only for businesses right now

Something interesting I found with Steam downloads when I moved to gbps internet is that for some games, the download was being bottlenecked by the CPU (a 6600k) because of the heavy compression used on the files. As you say, there aren't many uses for multi-gig internet atm apart from sharing with multiple users. Only useful where you're also paying for the same bandwidth on the server you're accessing e.g. for moving a lot of data between sites... not really anything for normal home use. Though I suppose you could soak up that bandwidth with torrents!

@@AS-wp3hb CPU isn't an issue in my case as it is 3950x saving to NVME SSD. But someone else said they got greater than 2 gig from 10gig link so it may just have been the specific game files I tested with that weren't maxing the connection. I tried testing torrents but never saw more than a few hundred Mbit at any one time.

@@curtisbme With torrents I think I've had it over 500mbps but then the files already downloaded by the time it could raise higher! I was thinking more about someone who might want to seed many torrents, then it would be useful. I've never really understood why people talk about steam download speeds all the time. You can wait 10 minutes for a game you'll be playing for 100 hours! How often are people downloading games haha. I play a lot of games but it's a tiny amount of traffic compared to my usage for work and stuff like youtube and netflix. I like to have gigabit just so I can videocall and download software images etc at the same time without affecting web browsing.

What a great problem to have. I have 60Mbps internet...

The point would be for downloading multiple things from lots of sources at one time, for multiple devices/users.

It is one of the intended uses but not the only as consumer routers have them and they are not managed and would never be used in businesses (by an IT person worth their salt). I have a consumer router with 10gbit wan (and 2gbit internet ). And to clarify WIFI is not faster than 1gig to any one device but can be to multiple devices. But of course that is only relevant if the access point is part of the router or has a multigig interface.

one of many reasons for 2.5G being a thing is that many of the current gen internet contracts speak of 1gbps but you can not utilize it on gigabit lan because of the overhead. Imagine having a perfect connection but the speed test never goes over 940 mbps.

if you on broadband service you have to have ( outdoor device use 2.5gbe & poe+ 2.5gbe & switch 2.5gbe or 10.0gbe ) then connect this devices to each other then add latest extender to switch with cat8 but if you have fiber the equipment's is ( switch 2.5gbe or 10.0gbe ) then add extender with cable cat8 , Now you will have better network for gamers and for whole family

I can imagine a scenario like the video described with multiple machines accessing the same resource, but even then I don't know what one would have to do to make that little difference noticeable... video streaming I think is at MOST 30mbps, so would need lots of machines to max that out. I guess maybe using steam's game streaming feature

Ugh. I take it you have to suffer with cable. I'm sorry.

@@curtisbme Worry less about the people "suffering" with damned good high speed internet already and worry more about the people who are still struggling to get past 2007 levels of internet speed in the modern era when everything has ballooned in size because "everyone has high speed internet access without severely limited data caps" I have the option of satellite (and no that does not mean Starlink) and cellular internet. Satellite is limited to 60gb for the month before the speeds drop to barely enough to load a basic email. Speed varies wildly depending upon the atmospheric conditions and a coin toss on how congested the network is at that time you are trying to use it. Cellular can produce some usable speeds most of the time for more basic stuff but it gets a bit iffy when it comes to anything intensive. More importantly though is that the soft 22gb data cap on the cell phone plan isn't really an issue, but not using enough data to trigger the fraud department to get involved and figure out that you are using the plan as a home internet source is a problem. And yes even getting something like a grid parabolic antenna only helps the signal/speed issues just so much if you can't invest in a tower taller than the trees to mount it on.

That switch costs $100+ and one sfp+ card costs $90+, add to that cable costs. Definitely above $300+ unless you buy everything used and only use DAC.

@@Abu_Shawarib That's a great price for 5 ports of 10Gb. I use $35 transceivers though and CAT6A. My main PC motherboard has built in 10Gbe, and runs truenas in a VM. I bought a card for my other computer. If you genuinely have use for the throughput that's a very low cost solution. NVME storage is almost impractical for most people unless you are moving data to other computers, and 10GBe lets you get the most out of those SSDs on a network. Four HDD RAIDZ1 gets me 400-800MBps.

@@Abu_Shawarib 2 sfp+ cards from ebay cost £46 and DAC cables yes, as I said, less than £200

Watching this on a 100gbit internet connection would be the same experience... Obviously there is no media where 1gbit internet is the bottleneck. Not even 50mbit is a bottleneck (save for streaming UHD blu-ray from a server). I have 2gbit internet and am struggling to find a justification to keep it.

@@curtisbme I never insinuated it would be, the 10Gb sub net to my main network is for moving large amounts of data while doing reprographics, it's nothing to do with fast internet.

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@NikA Well it did recently become available for some places, but certainly a rare occurrence of someone actually having that.

Remember how ridiculous the prices were on 1 Gig ethernet for a long time? I remember paying something like $2000 for dumb 8-port 1G Ethernet switch, and that was the cheapest switch we could buy. I was made by D-Link and came with a fan that sounded like a jet engine. I also bought a HP Smart something something with 16 or 24 ports, and that cost an arm, a leg and both kidneys. And this too sounded like a A10 taking off. Heck 100 Mb Ethernet was expensive as H when first introduced. But even so I think 10 G Ethernet is taking way longer to trickle down to the private consumer market segment. Even 2.5 G has been hard to find at decent prices but hopefully it will become cheaper. In a way I feel WiFi has become so wide spread in use that less and less cheap wired networking products are being released. Sure I have WiFi in the house but for stationary computers, TV, NAS and such the wired network is still far better.

@@blahorgaslisk7763 When I was in high school a 24 port 10/100 switch was $1000+, I remember quite a bit of the price history and change. Guarenteed the future of computers is going to be remote instances though, and all wifi can handle that just fine, but for communicating with my storage servers the only solution will be fast cables (either fiber or copper...but fiber seems to be cheaper overall imo)

for ymself i agree, my husband and i do gaming, and i watch streams and he watches youtube / such at the same time and we have never had a latency issue with all of that going, and while we have decent net, its not above gig for sure, only thing i would consider is internal server, because both our pcs have 2.5 gig ports built in

" but many ISPs will figure out that this is happening and then push you into using a Commercial connection" Should be "Many cable providers/Comcast". Only monopolistic piece of shit companies like comcast would do something like that. I have 2gbit fiber and I could use all of it up& down every second of every day and not get a call. As even cable executives have noted, there is no technical need for caps (or forcing people to commercial rates), it is all just ways to add to their profit.

LAN cable doesn’t make any difference. You are basically buying snake oil like those HDMI cables that claim to up your graphics fidelity

@@IchiroSakamoto The cable does matter though. A CAT5 cable isn't the same as a CAT6 cable.

@@DorperSystems Even the free cable that came with the router should be CAT6. It's pretty rare to even find a CAT5 unless you dig in 1990's e-waste junkyard. Even CAT5 should do 100mb so if OP gets only 50 then it's clearly not the cable's problem.

@@IchiroSakamoto no most of the cables that come with a router are cat5e. CAT5 is able to do gigabit. CAT6 is really stiff and not flexible unlike CAT5(e). This is because they added a plastic cross to separate the twisted pairs into the cable.

Fast Ethernet is only 100 MBit/s.

​@@Yuusou. but he said fast Ethernet not Fast Ethernet

It depends on what you do and what it costs. In Sweden it's not that big difference between 250/250 and 1000/500 where i live. 44$ vs 57$.

Plex server: TV shows and movies. I'm my own offline Netflix.

Like Jason I have my own Plex server because I don't care to have to pull dvds and blu rays out every time I want to watch something I've already bought. Also it allows me to watch on my tablet or phone. Or take my media with me somewhere if I know I'm going to be sitting around somewhere away from home without much to do. Not to mention that due to my lack of worthwhile internet, streaming is a big problem at home. Through the use of a grid parabolic antenna I have recently been able to get my speeds a bit faster for streaming video, but still until some real internet decides to find its way out here, having a fast home network with all of my files is great

spoiled brats these people are. 🤣

@@After_Pasta This.

@@After_Pasta If you mean that USA and Canada got great broadband you are mistaken. Sweden have one of the best broadbands in the world. The lowest i can get is 100 Mbit/s for 15$. 1000/500 Mbit/s costs 57$

@@After_Pasta It's more because the US is really big which means that the cost of running long lines is high. Last mile is the most expensive though. Just look at Australia's NBN for example.

@@After_Pasta I mean, that 10% of the world also has 98% of the useful ideas. Let me check out that sweet new Middle Eastern/African network switch... Oh, right, they're fighting religious wars for decades instead.

Most of the UK is stuck on 80Mbps and even then you can rarely get the full speed.

Your SSD definitely does more than 600Mbps... That's only 75MB/sec

You're mixing up MBPS and Mbps. Your SSD likely does 600MB/s if it's a SATA3 drive, which is way beyond the max throughput of GigE.

SSD at only 600 mbps? I can get 1gbps on WD red no issues... Note that we usually talk of 1gpbs which is about 125mBps (b for bits, B for bytes, 8b = 1B). A 600mBps SSD is still slower than Sata III saturation though, which is about 750mBps, but much more realistic, and would not be bottlenecked by a 1gbps network speed.

@@Minstadave yes, indeed, he'd be getting 4.8 gigabit on his ssd

@@Minstadave SSD still slow down once it gets fuller.

Wifi has done a great job of evolving IMO. Every new device I get has some better wifi aspect. Especially whenever you do something blike go from XBO/PS4 to SX/PS5

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@@NigelMelanisticSmith you can also plug a supported wifi access point into a 2.5/multigig port and you’ll get more bandwidth with wifi

@@shaiuken7150 that's true, but since I don't play online, I haven't needed it recently. Time will tell though

Exact same path I went. Started with a p2p between the desktop and the server, with 1g to each of them for the rest of the network/internet, and then finally upgraded to a 10Gb/s switch. I'm using OM3 jumpers and LC keystone jacks for wall terminations.

Higher internet speed is already really useful. I can download a whole 4K movie in the time it takes to go to the bathroom. Most of the time the uncompression of the RAR files takes longer than the download itself. And thats only on 1Gb speed. With 2.5Gb speed you could download the movie in a short commercial break...

@@Setsuna_Kyoura Well, I'm interested in knowing where you live and what kind of sources you're downloading from. I've yet to find any internet video service that can come close to saturating a gigabit link.