Doctor Strange 2 - The Wanda Problem of Madness | Anatomy Of A Failure 

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Scarlet Witch/Wanda: “I made mistakes and people were hurt.” Doctor Strange: “I didn’t watch your Disney Plus series.’

The part where Wanda 's children reject her after seeing the terrible things she has done is the only thing about the movie that makes sense

"tell her, blackbolt" hahaha love it. I hate that they had to have fantastic set up her "what mouth?" line by specifying "he can kill you with a whisper from his mouth. *FROM HIS MOUTH* where else do people whisper from???

I think one way they could have addressed Wanda's inconsistent logic and inconsistent behaviour is by making it abundantly clear that she was being influenced/controlled by the Darkhold: that it was the evil book calling the shots, not her. Which...still would have been a dumb plot device, but still would have worked better than what we got.

This's probably the first MCU film where the hero doesn't have a real 1v1 against the villain and it's really disappointing. A crazy trippy fight between the best magic users in the MCU would've been great to see

I think my biggest Pet-Peeve with this movie is something you mentioned at the start. Wanda is steamrolling everyone and it's not because she's strong and astute but rather everyone else is weak and stupid. We're seeing like eight very strong and possibly the most forward-thinking heroes in the MCU all collectively decided to bring knives to a gunfight.

Wanda being the villain actually makes even less sense if you're seen Wandavision, cause that show makes such a strong effort to show her deciding to be a hero in the finale and sacrificing Vision and her kids to let go of all her grief, but then Dr. Strange 2 undoes it all and makes her irredeamably evil because "an evil book took over her mind offscreen."

The thing is, Wanda didn't even need to kill anyone, she could have just controlled them.

I think a better option then the “What if they get sick lol” for Wanda’s motivation would be a fear of her kids dying in general. She can explain that a Thanos-like threat might appear again and kill her kids, like what happened with Vision. A relatable fear, and tied to Wanda’s past.

I would also like to point out that America basically just needed a pep talk to be able to completely control her powers and save the day. If that isn’t bad writing, I don’t know what is.

Multiverse of Madness felt like a film made by someone who had a list of characters, but hadn't seen anything in the MCU.

If Strange had just asked Wanda out, they could have eventually had kids, and the whole movie could have just been a romantic comedy.

Its insane how the writers didn’t think of the “make her dreamwalk from the beginning so it feels like an addiction “ concept. Like, as SOON as she does it for the first time, it took me completely out of the immersion. All I could think was why the hell wasn’t she doing that all the time then. We don’t see a single side effect for dreamwalking (yeah I guess u get corrupted but she and strange seemed fine physically)

You consistently give better plot takes than marvel's writers. The one about Peter Parker losing his spider sense because he was depending on Ironman's tech for too long was SOOOOOO good i HAVE to see it as offscreen cannon.

How they went from Wanda being one of the most interesting remaining characters to the dopiest is beyond me.

They showed Wanda as a person who never learns. I though the logical next step for her after WandaVision would be to try to fix and redeem herself from all the suffering she caused, be better. Hawkeye would be sad to know about this, he was the first who motivated her to be a hero.

I didn't really like how the MCU protrayed depression or sadness. Thor lost basically EVERYTHING and he gets to be the comedic laughing stock. Wanda kills people for kids she doesn't have and she's supposed to be the hero?

Wanda: “when you do it you’re the hero, when I do it I’m the villain” Strange: “L + ratio + your kids aren’t even real”

I spent a whole season watching her moving from a villain to a hero, all for me to do it again for another 2 hours.

When she and Dr. Strange were floating above "Wizard HQ ," I wondered why Strange didn't just offer to help her. He could have gone with something like, "with America's power and our combined understanding of magic, I'm sure the three of us can find a happy solution." There could be justifications for her not accepting, but it makes NO sense for Strange to not even try it.

I’m terrible, while watching in theaters when she sent her moms through the portal over a bee… I laughed pretty loud about it.

Honestly what made me also sad is that the power levels were SO DAMN WEAK. We had 2 of the most powerful reality bending wizards/witches and yet we didnt see ANYTHING truely mind blowing. Both characters showed MUCH higher feats in previous movies/series so its a shame we got such lame confrontations. I understand it might be dificult to portray just how strong these characters are but what we got in this movie were legit One dollar store versions of them....

The problem was that they *had* a script where Wanda was not the principle villain, but was driven to become bad by the end of the film. Because the director was replaced with Raimi at the last minute that script was scrapped after filming had begun and had to be re-written in like two weeks, and it had to use footage already taken.

My biggest problem with the movie was that things happen out of convenience. For example, the part where Strange and America walked past that memory lane place, just so happens to explain their past; or the fact that the watch is the key to open to door. It's giving "Somehow Palpatine returned" vibe. Another problem is definitely the climax of the movie. The villain is built up to be this incredibly intimidating being, but the way they can resolve the problem takes place for like 2 minutes (same problem with the 1st Doctor Strange movie too!). And of course, the whole "I believe in you, you can do it" bullshit smh

One thing that bugged me was Wanda's illogical use of powers. She removed blackbolts mouth with a thought. Why isnt she just willing everyones brain out of existance? Its a cool moment, but makes every fight after it contrived

I seriously thought Dr strange would fight his evil self instead of Wanda. That would make way more sense and maybe Wanda would just interrupt Dr strange for her own gain.

I completely agree with the YO-YO villain issue. It bothered me so much. Also the motivation issue.

What I really like about your reviews is you don't just say "that sucks" or "that's stupid." You provide your own fleshed out ideas of how to actually make the movie better. I feel like we don't see a lot of that in the more popular movie review channels, they only criticize.

The other problem is the writers make Wanda stronger by having the other heroes be stupid. Reed Richards is canonically the smartest man alive and they know multiverses exist yet somehow they weren't aware of their own Wanda and the powers that she may wield. Strange also never tried finding the new vision even though he knows about Westview and everything that happened there.

The main problem I had with villain Wanda is that at the end of WandaVision, she learned through Agatha what an unleashed witch is like and seemed to condemn that. She also seemed to have learned to let go of her boys, as she did when she released the town, so her sudden flip in this movie makes no sense whatsoever. What might have worked better is if a multiverse Wanda who is not our own is the one rampaging after America. This way, Strange and Wanda can work together, her character can be consistent, and she could even get her kids if evil Wanda kills the dreamwalked Wanda along with the Illuminati. It would also allow for conversation between evil Wanda and our learned Wanda, exploring the dichotomy of the two reactions to losing her boys.

Felmento could have also added, 1. Why is it called Doctor Strange : MoM and not Scarlet Witch : MoM? 2. Why didn't the new vision (cum man) not appear in this? 3. Why didn't strange incapacitate her at any time in the movie like Wong previously did with Cull Obsidian, of Black Order? 4. Why didn't strange wipe her memory like he did to spiderman? I imagine Wanda would have wanted the same too, right?

I can’t help but think that Wanda totally forgot about everything she went through in her life pre-Avengers Endgame. I know that people like Steve, Clint, Nat, Sam and Bucky aren’t at all relevant to this movie but Wanda had a deep connection with these people-mostly Steve. He and Clint listened to her through her failures and learned a lot of lessons from them, even though she is significantly more powerful than them, she still trusted them. They were also imprisoned for a while in the rift after the avengers civil war. We know that Wanda hated Tony Stark for the air raid when she was younger, but then learned in Age of Ultron that, while having huge ego problems, he isn’t that bad, plus he created Vision for her. And she also learned here about the consequences of vengeance. Wandavision and MoM (not so much WV, but definitely MoM) prove to me that those who wrote her character story in these entries did not know enough about her prior experiences in the MCU to write her storyline without huge inconsistencies. Some of arguments presented in this video *could be excused with ‘oh she was reading the darkhold’ but the fact that she turns to the dark hold is nonsensical since she learned similar lessons or even the same one in Age of Ultron and then again in WV, and now for the third fking time in a row in Madness. Sam Raimi (the director) already admitted he didn’t watch WV (lol) and probably didn’t consult help from the group in the MCU that helps keep consistency, so that made it worse, too. It seems like these multiversal level chaos powers she has has completely made her forget about her time with Steve and the Avengers, and valuable life lessons she learned with him and others were tossed away here. Also, they had to kill her off? Pfft

One of the big problems with the movie was the premise. Wanting to be with her kids makes sense, but if the mutliverse is infinite why didn't wanda spend her time finding orphaned versions of her kids that she could adopt. There must have been a number of versions of her that died.

Wanda: "I just want my boys" Quicksilver: "Was I a joke to you?"

The thing is, I *feel* like the idea was supposed to be that the Darkhold (?) corrupted her and made her evil... but I don't feel like they really emphasized on that too much in any way. It was just that one scene with Strange visiting her and that was it. Her villainy felt so sudden, even in WandaVision. I honestly didn't even feel how sorry she was for taking over that entire town - she just ran away and expected people to accept that it's because she lost all these people, it justifies her actions or something like that. It didn't help either that Monica's line was like "These people will never know what you sacrificed"... seriously? I do love her being a villain, I just wish they justified it with better writing...

Dr.Strange shouldn’t be the side character in his own movie, he should be the main focus of his own movie. Dr.Strange was the main focus of his first film despite the narrative of the antagonist in it not being completely connected to him and he’s the one who solves the problem at the end of the first film. In multiverse of madness he is not the main focus of his sequel which is gonna make audiences unsatisfied as its a Dr.Strange movie. I get your argument for Pirates of The Caribbean & Jack Sparrow but Jack Sparrow wasn’t the main focus of pirates he was a secondary focus, Dr.Strange is the main focus of his own original film and as his popularity among MCU fans has grown if you want to make a successful Dr.Strange movie Dr.Strange needs to be the main focus otherwise audiences will feel like they’re being ripped off. This is why you have people saying the first film was better then the sequel when looking back at it because since the character’s popularity has grown people are going to look back to the film that primarily focuses on him and expect more content that primarily focuses on Dr.Strange as a character. The trailer for MOM literally puts most of the focus on Dr.Strange with some of the focus on Wanda & barely any focus on America Chavez yet Dr.Strange is the character playing the smallest role in his own movie with Wanda & America being the primary focuses of his film compared to him. Han Solo is a popular side character/secondary character but if you made a movie about Han Solo and he’s not the main focus of the plot people are gonna not like the movie as much. This is part of what went into criticisms of Solo A Star Wars Story that a film about Han Solo’s origins didn’t mainly focus on Han Solo that much in the overall plot. This is also probably why The Pirates films after three didn’t do their best. People likely expect Jack Sparrow on another Pirates Adventure with many other Pirates playing prominent roles along side him instead of a movie with Jack Sparrow as the main focus in the pirates world but that’s what they got. If four & five were actually Jack Sparrow spin off pirates movies with some better execution in their concepts they may have been better received. Dr.Strange is all being downgraded power wise as each MCU film is made. …SPOILERS FOR PHASE 4 OF THE MCU… Originally he understood what the multiverse was in his first film because he was taught to draw the power of his energy from it to make magic/spells and how to travel through it with the sling ring, now in MOM when meeting her, Dr.Strange & Wong are shocked that America Chavez can travel throughout The Multiverse like it was never possible before. He was shocked to find out the dark hold wasn’t really just a myth and was true despite his introduction into the mystic arts by the ancient one in the first film & the fact that Wong knew about it from a book given to those who become sorcerer supreme while funny contradicts the fact that Dr.Strange studies lots of knowledge to become a sorcerer let alone Sorcerer Supreme and likely would have knew and studied that book Wong was referring to in order to protect the earth from mystical threats which is his job. On top of that in No away Home Dr.Strange was saying The Multiverse is a concept of which we know frighteningly little when he was literally taught about the multiverse throughout the first film on how to use it for magic and travel through it in the arts of mysticism. You can’t be Sorcerer Supreme without understanding the multiverse. I love NWH & MOM is a mixed bag for me but they both contradict Dr.Strange’s power & knowledge as The Sorcerer Supreme in most Marvel content and the first Dr.Strange film within The MCU. Why is he being downplayed, you don’t simplify a character like Dr.Strange, he is literally made to be a complex character from his initial run in the early comics by Steve Ditko & Stan Lee.

How many mentions did Vision get throughout this film? Barely a mention at all! She was so obsessed with her bloody children but she more or less seemed to forget about the man she also supposedly loved!

Nerfing everyone doesn't make Wanda seem more powerful, it makes me think that if Strange and Wong weren't nerfed she wouldn't be as big of a deal. The worst thing you can do to make a villain seem powerful is to weaken your heroes. Also we could have solved so much if Nightmare was the actual villain. He could have been manipulating Wanda and her dreams because that's his domain. It's just a missed opportunity.

Honestly this film should’ve had Nightmare (who was originally supposed to be the villain of the film) as the villain. The whole Dreamwalking and the multiverse being compared to dream really works and they could’ve easily had Wanda as a side character with her own goals that conflicts with Strange’s while they tackle on Nightmare.

So Black Bolt is supposed to have EXTREME self discipline, I doubt he would have panic screamed. Also, wouldn't the noise logically blast out of his nose probably still killing Wanda? That would have been hilarious.

That problem with Wanda's power happens with villains in a lot of things. They'll be this unstoppable force that tears through extras like they're battle droids, but when they get to the main characters, they conveniently decide to slow down, giving the heroes just enough time to escape with their lives.

I think the theme of Addiction would have suited Wanda's arc very well. Considering that Wanda could have learned how to create her own kids with her own min-hex, it doesn't make sense that she would need to travel to another multiverse to be with them. I think she should have teamed up with Doctor Strange in the beginning (but keeping the Darkhold a secret) and they would meet America Chavez and journey into another multiverse where Wanda discovers that her children are real. And this would cause her downward spiral as she either tries to be with them or save them - using the Darkhold.

I completely agree with the video. However I must say I do like how they handled Wanda in broad terms, since Wandavision so disgustingly gave her a free pass after she mindraped the entire town for months, including children. When it was finally revealed what she was really doing throughout the series, and when after releasing the townspeople one of the "heroes" of the story tells her that "they'll never know what you sacrificed for them" as if the poor traumatized people were somehow rude for holding a grudge after going through prolonged, unimaginable psychological torture -for me that was the absolute rock bottom of the MCU, an amoral black hole they might never pull back from. So at least Dr Strange 2 slightly rectified this and pushed her firmly into the villain territory, instead of just pretending her horrific crimes never happened.

I just realised, they could have phrased mr fantastic's sentence like "his mouth can destroy you with a whisper" instead of "he can destroy you with one whisper from his mouth" and Wanda call still ask "what mouth?"

Adding Vision alive and well to this dreamwalking concept would've seriously helped her motivations. Paul Bettany has expressed great interest in playing the role for the foreseeable future and definitely would've enjoyed a cameo role. Seeing Wanda dreamwalk to be with her husband AND her kids would have made more sense to general audiences. Even if you haven't seen Wandavision, surely you've seen Infinity War and know her husband is quite dead. Showing us that Wanda is trying to escape to a life where none of that happened and she got to live a comfortable and happy life, now THAT would've made a strong motivation for her character going absolutely bonkers to get there.

I felt that, even with me having seen the Wanda vision show, it added a different layer of confusion for me because at the finale of the show we see Wanda come to terms with the fact that vision is dead, and her children simply are not real and that its just the way things have to be. She comes to terms with that realization. But then she just does a 180 and decides that all that character development was moot and didn't mean anything in doctor strange solely for the sake of the plot.

I didn't realize the yoyo effect until you pointed it out!! I just felt like there are so many times Wanda could defeat Strange and achieve her goal, but plot armor happened! Everyone useful to the plot can't die, and others just dies like ants without any pay off.

How Wanda trashed the Illuminati just convince me how keeping her powers vague is so convenient for the plot

I pretty much came to a very similar conclusion. I never felt like Wanda was a true villain because they kept reminding me of her goal. Compare this to the Ultron for example. He says his goal maybe two times in the movie, but we actively see him going towards that goal without him stopping every 20 minutes and telling us what his plan is. We know what he wants to do, and then we just see him getting closer to that goal. That is a villain.

The biggest problem I found in the movie, was that it walks back Wanda's progress. Wandavision is about Wanda coming to realise that if she continues to live in the world she created for herself, she will hurt people. She had to come to terms with her actions having consequences she can't really come back from, that by indulging her trauma she inevitably traumatizes people around her. Basically the lesson she learns at the end of this movie, is pretty much the same as she learned in the TV show. Which can be fine, if that's the intention and it's shown it's not a lesson she learned, but then... why bother making the TV show at all if the catharsis of the ending is going to be completely eradicated the next time we see the character? I absolutely LOVE Scarlet Witch, and on it's own I really quite enjoyed the movie, but then there's such a disconnect. It relies on the show to establish motivations, but ignores the resolution of said show. The movie did such a disservice to her character.

I agree, they really ruined the whole idea of Wanda being a villain and as you have proven and said somethings make no sense and badly written. This certainly doesn't help when they said that Wanda was gradually going to become a villain over time

Honestly one of the other main problems I found with this movie was the inconsistency of Dr. Strange. You suddenly have a sorcerer whose entire way of performing tricks/using sorcery has changed from the previous movie to the current. The spells, the ways in which he fights, what he conjures, everything was vastly different from the previous one. It was like watching a very different Dr. Strange in this movie. So different, that I felt disconnected with the character.

One of the reasons I always come back to Filmento's videos is he doesn't just point out movie flaws, he has ideas on how to make the movie land better. The dream walking addiction is an awesome motivation. I would have been on deck with her pain all the way through the film. As it was, she just rocked up and started clapping wizards like she was on her second play through of Elden Ring with very little provocation and I kind of hated her after that. Also - the editing is on a whole different level in this video. I kept grinning at the Undertale exposition noise XD

They really tried to keep giving her sympathetic moments, but it didn't work once. She was too clearly in the wrong. If they had made Wanda more black and white, the movie would have become much better in my eyes.

I love the idea of Wanda being addicted to dreamwalking. That's super good. It would mean she already had the darkhold in the beginning and was already corrupted by her sickness.

thank you for pointing out some of these major flaws my friends and I had with the movie. It seemed the general public absolutely adored this movie and completely overlooked any and all issues that I thought so obviously heavily dragged this movie down. I'm glad to see the issues are getting some attention/being called out. I also really like your Wanda's dreamwalking addiction idea, I think that would have been a much more interesting, convincing justification for Wanda's so abrupt turn to evil. I went into this movie hoping Wanda's transformation would be a more interesting, morally ambiguous one where we as an audience as well as Strange could see her gradually go past the point of no return and we would feel BAD for her, rather than having her just instantly be evil and corrupted and Strange not seeming to care from the beginning

As someone who loved the first Doctor Strange but hated this one, I appreciate that you offered solutions that would make this movie better.

I think the greatest failure is that it's really not Multiverse of Madness, but Wanda's madness in the multiverse. They hyped Dr Strange being the most dangerous person to universe because of his curiosity and drive to go over the line for the better good of the majority, and they not only been implying that or explicitly saying that in previous movies(or What-If) they also even said it in the movie. And we got nothing of Dr Strange causing the madness in multiverse or even fixing it.

I think Wanda was using “What if they get sick,” as merely an example. I think ultimately what she was saying was that if she loses her boys in one universe, she can just refresh in another universe. I agree that the way it’s written is extremely vague and unsatisfying, but that was what I understood her justification to mean.

Addiction is a great suggestion because WandaVision very much can be seen as a story about addiction. She takes a hit of that magic and lives in a fantasy land where everything is perfect and nothing hurts. She can't even remember why it should hurt for a lot of the runtime, she's that far gone down the rabbit hole. Bringing and addiction metaphor into the movie would both make the movie easier for casual audiences to understand but also be a payoff for those who have seen and love the show. Also, a progression of the black stain on her fingers to show the passage of time or amount she's used the Darkhold with her becoming physically corrupted by the dark magic would go a long way into visualizing her descent. Again, a payoff for people who saw the show because we can tell she's clearly used the book in the few months she's had it far more than Agatha ever did in a century of having it. We see the physical changes to other Dr. Stranges, but it's like a light switch being flipped rather than a progressive change. You use the book and BAM you get blackened fingers or something right away - that's not terribly interesting. Then at the end, our Dr. Strange has a progressive change much later in an end credits scene out of nowhere.

I really loved Sam Raimi's direction, and this film was surprisingly dark. Wanda is the most horrific MCU villain, but I didn't like that after her murder spree she decided to stop just because one version of her kids didn't like her. Did Wanda even try to find a universe where they were orphaned? Also, if you have a hero who is so powerful he can kill with a WORD- which makes him the strongest thing we have seen in the MCU- why would you tell the REALITY BENDING WITCH about your trump card? WTF?

the biggest issue I have with movies like these is that the writers/director probably came up with some really cool visual sequences before writing the story, and then failed to organically build them into the plot, rather than just building sequences out of the plot itself. If that makes any sense

11:20 Lmfao emergency meeting- Also Filmento demonstrating how boring the memory method of exposition is through his ad is too good.

Her killing Black Bolt (one of the dumbest character ideas in all of marvel) in the ridiculous way she did was a real highlight in the movie for me.

The mashing of scripts left this film with two distinct themes that don't enhance one another. The really great theme of "Are you happy Doctor Strange?" Which I love. Despite both Wanda and Strange having immense power to influence their reality they've both picked what's best for others, but not themselves. Wanda lost everyone she loved and Strange lost out on both being the sorcerer supreme and the love of his life. The classic limitless power, but you can't save the ones you love story. The other explicitly told theme is that "Strange is too afraid of losing control." And on that one I call complete BS. His greatest accomplishment in the MCU was finding a way to stop Thanos. A plan which involved him Dieing for 5 years and relying on the other avengers to fill their roles without him.

I feel same way about how exposition was handled in this movie. That scene where they’re in another universe and see their flashbacks in front of them was the pinnacle of plot contrivance.

I’m still trying to figure out how witches became so powerful in movies. In Paranormal activity and in hundreds of other recent horror movies they're pretty much unstoppable. In this movie Wanda was killing off Sorcerers, inhumans , mutants and other strong beings with relative ease. They could never make a Wizard of Oz movie right now because the Wicked witch of the West would kill Dorothy in the first five seconds of the movie.

When it comes to motivation for taking America's powers they could of literally just could have shown wanda's fear of her loved ones dying in front of her instead just saying illness

If we went with the "wanda has been dreamwalking for a while now" route, we could even make the "my boys might get sick" thing very emotional, instead of "might happen", have it be "has happened". For example: "Do you know how many times I've had to bury my boys? How many times they got sick? How many times I couldn't do anything? I always knew about cures, of course I did. But that never helped, the cures only ever existed in the next universe over, never in the ones i was in." Or something like that, so she actually needs to keep hopping universes and can't just let america go Like, we already know that Olsen can sell those types of emotional beats, we've seen it in endgame in her confrontation with thanos. I think she might've been able to pull it off to the point where the blatant exposition doesn't bother you, cause it's delivered so well.

So agreed with this. There are lots of good things about the movie, like the visuals, but the writing is just so bad and inconsistent I couldn't ignore it.

Thank you for introducing the term "yoyo villain". I'd say the same could be said about many villains' intelligence lvl as well. In "Skyfall" the villain has such foresight that he prepares an underground train crash to halt Bond's pursuit in a tunnel but then just charges into battle in a lound helicopter during the end battle at Bond's hunting lodge.

I honestly wish every movie producing company would hire YOU or someone like you to revise their scripts cause BY GOD you're a genius. You know what we want as an audience and even what would work for companies to be successful...WIN WIN!!

The thing that nagged at me was the question of why she never attempted to recreate her kids in her own universe. She was so powerful and clearly didn't care about whether the kids were authenticly hers. She just immediately jumped to the most difficult conclusion.

It was extremely underwhelming. As has the entirety of Phase 4 writing. They clearly were afraid to commit to her becoming fully irredeemable. Which is a consistent problem with Disney backed productions.. be they Marvel or Lucasfilm or whatever. They FEAR Real Risk Taking. I would love to see the original Raimy cut before they reshot 85% of it.

You made a lot of great points. There are a few holes here and there though 1) Strange did not know who America Chavez was when he saved her. The whole point of the Cafe was the post save and "ok, wth is going on here?" sort of thing. If they combined it with the attack it would have rushed things and who's to say that Strange would have picked up on what was going on 2) the Wandavision thing. Fair point that the average person would not have kept up with the MCU including the shows such as Wandavision. However, the movies are truly made for the fans. All the easter eggs, all the cameos, all the jokes etc are designed for the fans, AKA the people who have seen all the movies, all the TV shows etc. All the movies and shows are connected as has been noted by Kevin Feige, Joss Whedon etc. There's a whole MCU timeline that fans have been made aware of where everything ties together. By your same logic, if people didn't see Endgame they wouldn't understand why Wanda is depressed. 3) The boys and sickness. Wanda is deathly afraid of losing her children. We saw a few instances of this in Wandavision with the army, with Agatha, and even with Monica Rambeau when she challenged Wanda on the reality of her universe. Wanda wants NOTHING to stand in the way of her and her children. THUS, if the kids are sick she wants to be able to cure them, if they break a bone she wants to be able to heal them etc. She doesn't want anything to cause her to lose her children. Now granted we see the true effects of the darkhold on Wanda as it is corrupting her mind but at the same time, we see Wanda's innocent desires (which is part of the YoYo in that psychosis presents in both positive and negative ways) 3) Multiverse Avengers: they didn't want to kill Wanda. They were trying to deter her and get her to back off. They already killed Strange because he was corrupted by the darkhold. They didn't want to kill anyone else. the rest I agree with though.

I just wish we had more Strange and more multiverse tbh, the fact that after two solo movies his most known fight scene is when he fought Thanos AND LOST It is annoying tbh

When Wanda goes off to find her children that have been haunting her dreams, no one asked one essential question: Who the (bleep) was the father? It's not like Vision had genetics.

They could have changed "They might get sick" to something along the lines of "They could get hurt, they could die." and maybe she gives the example of getting shot by some danger or a world ending threat coming, this connects both to her fear of her boys being hurt while also connecting to the death of her brother and the death of Vision.

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You can tell the original villain was supposed to be nightmare. The whole dream walking thing would have made much more sense.

I like the solutions you talked about for making Wanda's dreams become a dream walking addiction. One big change I would add is that she keeps going to the same universe each night in her dreams, the first night it's her having fun with her kids, the next it's the same, and it keeps going on and on, a fun montage of her and her kids with her waking up upset and going back to bed excited to be with her kids again, then the montage turns dark, she goes to bed exited and awakens in her body from another universe, she's laying in the kitchen with a bottle of wine and tears on her face, clearly a wreck over something, she gets confused and starts questioning what's happening, she eventually learns that her kids are sick in the hospital and Wanda can't do anything about it (This Wanda isn't the scarlet witch yet and doesn't yet have her full extent of powers so she can't cure them when she's dream walking) she tries getting help from the avengers only to learn they are all busy (Doesn't directly say anything about the Illuminati but helps set up why Wanda is so fine with killing them, because they won't help her kids). This results in her wanting to go to that specific universe, it's not that she has an attachment to her kids in general but more so that she has an attachment to THOSE kids, that she gained a sick addiction to that specific universe. Then when strange travels there and meets with the Illuminati we can say that Wanda upon Dream walking there first checks on her kids at the hospital before going and fighting the Illuminati. Basically, the Ice-cream scene but replaced to show Wanda saying she will do anything to protect them, which would further cement the fact that Wanda is doing what she's doing so she can see them with the full extent of her powers to cure them. Her goal isn't to replace the other Wanda at first, but then it slowly devolves into that as she believes their universe's mom isn't good enough to protect them. And the avengers cant protect them, with her belief slowly devoling into "they are just going to die without me". So, the movie changes from Wanda wanting to be pure evil instantly because "The Dark hold took control of her" into her wanting to cure them with it slowly devolving into madness as she starts learning of the full truth of her limits as the scarlet witch and as she becomes more arrogant in the belief that she deserves her children and that she's the only one capable of protecting them. Also, I feel like this explains why she doesn't just re-do Wanda Vision and remake more fake kids, it's because she grew an attachment to those kids and that universe, and she believes those kids will just die without her.

Another major problem, for me at least, is that Wanda's downfall to evil was really rushed even if you have seen WandaVision. In WandaVision she did hurt people too, BUT a) she created the Hexx without her intentions, b) she didn't know how much she was hurting people for the most part, c) in the end she did realise that was she did was WRONG. And yeah yeah we saw her reading the Darkhold for 2 seconds and yeah yeah the Darkhold "makes you evil" or something. But still, how do you go from what we saw in the show to Wanda in Mom? Wanda turning evil is something understandable and very posssible after she realised the power she holds. But her turn to evilness was faster than Daenerys'. At least with Daenerys you could she how twisted she was from season 1, they just skipped a few steps in season 8. But Wanda, she wasn't always twisted, she could tell apart right and wrong, but suddenly in the movie she forgot all that. What I'm saying is that if she had more screentime, either in the movie or in some other MCU project before it, her transformation would have felt much smoother.

0:48 that is the same reaction of so many people in the theater 😂😂😂..

The star portal sometimes pull people inside and other times people just walk through it like as if it is a door.🙄

You raise stellar points. Dreamwalking should've been explored acontextually at the beginning of the film, and revealed only later on to the audience. It would provide a more convincing motivation + a more believable corruption of the Darkhold. The storyline would've been vastly improved. It was a visually impressive film, however 💛 Love this commentary.

Two other things that frustrated me was the fact that wanda was all about vision before this movie and had no interest in being with him again, just her "dream children." The other was that wong just gave into her demands to help her, and put the whole multiverse in jeopardy. What happened to "the greater good," wong?

That’s what I’m saying they should’ve used the Wanda dream walk scene earlier/beginning . It shows the relationship with her kids even though there not hers it wouldn’t matter , the audience that didn’t see WandaVision would see their relationship early (not just hear about it) then we learn later what dream walking is so we understand what Wanda was doing

The editing in this video is amazing. Loved the doom music edit.

Also, may I just mention that the "wizards" in the MCU fight like Lanterns from DC. They rarely cast spells, instead they use colourful shinning objects to wack the bad guys, to the point where Strange literally conjures a buzzsaw object out of his whips.

The way they did the multiverse made it feel so small. In other movies and shows, it always feels so vast and huge.

Such a Good Video , Thumbs up for explaining intricacies of the Plot writing and improvements. :)

Thank you for this excellent analysis. I'm watching one of your episodes for the first time and I subscribed.

That alternate scene where Reed Richards asks Black Bolt to tell wanda how to find her children... HOW WAS THAT NOT IN THE MOVIE?

I think the movie would have worked so much better if Wanda was actually trying to save her sons from another universe like they teased at the end of WandaVision. Only till later when she finds her sons dead because she wasn’t able to save them that she’s driven to the point of no return and tries to kidnap the kids from the Illuminati universe. The main problem is that the movie is actually very disconnected from WandaVision, yet dependent on it at the same time. You need to know about her kids, and that she’s the Scarlet Witch with the Darkhold but that’s it. It feels disconnected because it throws away her character arc from WandaVision, only makes one tiny reference to Vision who was more important to her than her kids, and throws away the motivation they teased at the end. The book they never explained much about that Agatha had that only appeared to 2 quick scenes in the show, that Wanda steals offscreen and has in the post credit scene which was contradicted by the movie, turning her into a completely different character by the next movie is just bad writing.

The Yes track at 3:38. I haven't listened to Roundabout since high school. Wow. Thanks for the flashback.

Omg, the way he gave the solutions to all the problems was just phenomenal💯

people who haven't watched WandaVision: "why is she like this?" people who already watched WandaVision: "why is she like this again?"

Yeah, performances of the actors were pretty good, main issue for me was some of the logic used with Wanda in terms of her motives. Understandable, but not developed enough to have any strong effect

10:55 the song is Lux Aeterna. So glad to hear it again as backround music, such a magnificient piece of composition