Doctor Strange vs Doctor Fate Who Would Win? | MCU vs DCEU 

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Dr Fate was unironically the best part of Black Adam

The director said he could beat black Adam and sabacc but chose not too because that wasn’t his fate and he wanted to die as long as he saves his friend

I like the crystalization effect of Dr. Fate’s spells

I’m pretty sure Doctor Fate could escape the Mirror Dimension. I mean he can teleport which would get him out. The sling ring can also teleport to get Strange out. Plus Wanda managed to get out so Strange has no win cons in this fight😂

Even before this video, I had a strong feeling that Doctor Fate would be more powerful than Doctor Strange due to his connection to the Lords of Order. You provided a great explanation to prove the point.

Bruh Dr. Fate almost has a built-in time stone

Once again pumping out hard work👌 One day both fanbases would love a dceu & mcu collective tier list from you guys!

Full power Dr Fate could take on Darkseid. The Lords of Order are insanely powerful.

Kent Nelson even without the Helmet of Fate is already Doctor Strange level

Zeus didn't destroy the Mother Boxes, he separated them.

Dr strange is basically a glass canon, one hard hit he is done

Great analysis Bro you did well. After watching Black Adam i thought Fate was weak or rather nerfed because it wasn't his movie and the directors would want Black Adam to save the day, but after your analysis I could see clearly he was the most powerful character in the movie choosing to sacrifice himself for his friends. I hope DC brings him back in future movies.

My uncle after 3 shots of Patron can solo both at the same time

You should make a tier list which includes both MCU and DCEU characters

a little headcannon i had was that fate was weaker in the fight against sabbac because he was defying fate something wich the helmet usually dislikes probably limiting his abilities

Someday you should do a tier list with mcu and dceu scaling so we can see how they scale to each other Edit: or even add a Star Wars part so we can see how the verses scale

Fantastic review my friend. Love to see an accurate in-depth analysis!

Have fun watching your comic book videos. Especially your Invincible character history. It would make my day if you did a character history of Kang because I have no idea what make shim so strong. You explain everything so well. Have a nice day

This battle is totally even, because in the comics both Fate & Strange are ridiculously powerful magic users who can warp reality, time and move/observe dimensions and other universes, and have battled several overpowered cosmic entities with their own feats. In this fight, it just depends on the plot and who has the slight first advantage over the other. They might even battle to a standstill and end in a draw. I also think Dr.Fate deserves his own solo movie after his appearance in Black Adam!!

It's worth noting that Black Adam is implied to have destroyed the moon in a possible future Fate views in the comic tie in which is wild

Dr Fate would know everything Dr Strange will do before he does it. He wasn't even knocked out by Sabbac's hell fire, and he has God like powers. Dr Fate is on a much higher level.

All your points are good, but you forgot 1 thing. Strange has morals. Fate doesn't. If he sees Strange as a threat to order, he'll kill Strange without hesitation. And he's just stronger so Strange can't do anything about it even if he tried to save himself. But overall love the video man.

Fate also has a massive strength advantage that can one shot strange

Yea, finally someone explained. And you might forgot to say that, Kent Nelson without even the helmet of Fate, he is a powerful sorcerer himself. For instance, we saw in Black Adam, he hides the helmet of Fate in something which looks like a parallel dimension accessible only using his magic. So on top of the helmet of Fate, he has his own magic. And I'll say this, The fact he could magically act in three places at once just show how powerful he is. He was saving Teth Adam, at the same time fighting Sabbac, at the same time holding the shield up.

PRAYING that Fate didn't actually die and he was actually just banished to hell or something. Pierce Brosnan is way too good as Fate just for one movie.

Considering how much objectively better written Black Adam was compared to Multiverse of Madness, should we even bother with the feats of our two magic users

Because of characters like The Flash and Superman, DC's been winning more match ups than they reasonably should Can't really beat people who can live a million years during your blink

I'm not even sure the mirror dimension acts as a win condition for Strange, Fate can teleport which seems fairly comparable to the portals of the sling ring and thanks to Multiverse of Madness we know that the mirror dimension unifies reflections and can be escaped through them, yes it required the ability to heal afterwards but as stated Fate's durability is magically augmented

Dr Strange needs to cast a spell but Dr fate don't need any spells❤️🔥

This is why I follow you, I love how u do your death battles, you show in depth evidence as well as feats to match those evidence you are a huge inspiration for my tiktok and I cant wait to see more W videos. Keep up the grind man you are doing amazing

Keep up the good work

I admit that Fate is more powerful and wins overall, but I'm surprised you didn't mention a single ability that Strange pulled up in Multiverse of Madness. he basically demonstrated so many new spells there-

I appreciate your efforts on this 1v1

Keep up the great content 👏

Before I even watch this the whole way through I'm backing up my boi Dr fate

Dr Fate wins. In the Black Adam film, Hackman describes Dr Fate as a being with god level power.

This was a dope vs

Good idea using the cam version to beat others to the punch with this type of video, lol

Doctor Fate would crush Doctor Strange no doubt, but the likely outcome would be them being allies rather than fighting.

Key whenever u get a chance bro, could u do a video of who u think would win between their comic book versions?

Imo i think all feats together with scaling, Strange should come out on top but it'll be tough. If you only consider the feats of the Doctor Strange origin movie then Fate wins easily.

Bruh Dr Fate is the movie equivalent of the badass anime old guy trope.

I agree with the vid largely. The only disagreement is the point about the only magic can defeat magic. This kinda seems like something that was just a comment from sivana and I believe while in ur black adam vs supes vid u brought up points to show this, i think there's also anti-feats contradicting this. They largely revolve around wonder woman. She's also magic and a god and she gets beaten by supes who is not magic. Additionally if u found new gods as not magic then steppenwolf also beats her. Also, atom smasher, cyclone and hawkman being unable to hurt black adam as compared to dr fate can very well be explained by dr fate being notably stronger than the other 3. In general, I feel like the one statement from sivana (who isn't an all knowing or super informed character like the wizard) shouldn't be taken as concrete fact. At least until it gets retconned in another movie 😒. All in all, great vid.

Didn't spiderman figure out the mirror dimensions? So Dr fate wouldn't be trapped in there

Put it this way Dr Strange has been a round movie wise for a while Dr Fate just showed up and he’s already being placed against Strange just goes to show that deep everyone knows whose more powerful and would win once DCEU Fate gets more feats this wont be a topic of discussion as of right now let the MCU fans feel they have won Because at the end of the day only one Doctor can truly change Fate

If Dr. fate was teleported into the MCU he would be the strongest character there and whoever Faced him would get solod easily

man I love your explanations and breaking or scaling of power levels that's absolute brilliancy bro, please do more.🤗🤗

I really feel you’re stretching when you scale steppenwolf to moon level because of a remark from a director several movies before his introduction.

Can you do a breakdown on the buffs that Zeus's Thunderbolt offers in the MCU? It clearly amped Valkyrie to be relative to post Infinity War Thor, when she was only slightly above pre Awakening Thor in Ragnarok. Also gave Thor the ability to grant his power to others

Fate would wipe the floor with strange, dr fate is the strongest magic person in all comics this battle wouldn’t be close only if they nerf Fate as they did in the adam movie

Regardless of who win, Dr Fate did a better demonstration of how mage should fight in the superhero universes better than Dr Strange did with 2 movies.

That was a lot of talking to say that Dr Fate could have beat the evil God on his own, but instead evened up the fight by taking on additional things (free Black Adam, and put and hold the barrier) so he could not win and complete the ultimate goal to stop the evil God

Big Fax+W

Hey are you gonna do a how powerful is dceu batman vid?

A rare unbias opinion nice work

I like how anytime fate “loses” it could just be by choice as it is “not his fate”

I realize this would be a lot of work, but could you do one with the main comic versions?

Which gods are you referring to the old gods of Earth, or the new gods of Apocalypse?

W, i was agreeing this on my tiktok and I also stated Fate wins

Dr. Strange can fortify his mind to avoid Fate from reading it, but without the time stone, Dr. Fate wins by reading the future, which Strange can't.

As a MARVEL fan, even I have to admit live action Dr Fate in BLACK ADAM seemed to be a higher notch of magic wielder (with SUPER-STRENGTH too) than MCU Dr Strange, however Dr Strange seems to be more tricky and elusive and would give Fate a prolong battle. Strange's best move (if he has the Time Stone) would be to trap himself with Dr Fate in a Time Loop, effectively creating a stalemate, or somehow getting the helmet off of Doctor Fates head (which seems unlikely since Dr Fate smartly doesn't fight close up...... he uses his clones up close.) Winner: Dr Fate 🤬

There are some points that help Dr Strange in this battle. 1) Odin was stated to be able to shatter planets and Thor is stronger than Odin and Thanos is stronger than Thor and Dr Strange's spells could hold Thanos untill Thanos used the Power stone and the Mind stone so I don't know how much of that feat was raw power, and then the crimson bands could also hold down Thanos. 2) Black Adam being able to destroy the world could also mean that he would destroy the surface of the planet or just the civilisations but if you want to scale him to planet level then I think you should also do that for the MCU characters. I also don't know how serious Black Adam was when Dr Fate was trying to hold him down, he wasn't really struggling that much and wasn't trying to move that much either, so I don't know if you can give Dr Fate strength that is around that level, but if you are then MCU characters should have that kind of scaling too. 3) If I remember correctly DCEU characters are considered relativistic or FTL because of the Man of Steel feat and Superman's heat vision right? Then I think Thor being able to save Loki from a blackhole like thing and Thor being able to react to Destroyer's beams should also be considered. And the Makkari statements can be used but we can use more statements and feats like these for both MCU and DCEU, like Black Adam struggling to stop a bullet and Wonder Women being hit by a bullet. But it won't matter if you are equalising speed. 4) Why are we not giving Dr Strange the Time stone? Dr Strange and Dr Fate can use equipments so I thought Dr Strange would have the time stone.

when we gonna get a black adam vs thor n a dceu marvel tier list

Do the Justice society vs Wanda with speed equalized?

Dr Fate can just shrug that mirror dimension

thank you for just equalizing speed. fights where speed stomps are just boring so thank you

can you make a how powerful is fox studios wolverine video

bro when you said it takes more than plant busting power to break out the mirror dimension than showed thanos using only the power stone to break the mirror dimension 👁👄👁

Can you make a video about Scarlet Witch vs Phoenix From the movies i mean both are insane Phoenix is stated to be the spark that gave life to the universe While wanda is stated to destroy the cosmos and destroyed the darkhold in every universe and stand multiversal punches from america chavez stated by the writer of MOM

In terms of the movie adaptation dr strange has shown more impressive magical abilities and he fought a 4 infinity stone gauntlet so in a fight I have to say dr strange.

I agree with this outcome

*How about a Strange Supreme Vs Doctor Fate battle?*

Dr Fate is definitely stronger.

Please make a how strong is dceu Hawkman video if you have the time

We had to be honest about it, everyone knows that Strange it’s so popular because the movies, but in terms of how powerful could be both characters, Fate is the most powerful between both, Strange depends of his amulets like Agamoto eye, his ring, his cape and his knowledge about magic, he’s skillful and full of tricks under his sleeve, but Fate has the power of a god a freaking god, while Strange can see future through time stone, that’s an ability inherent to Fate powers without the need of a stone, just touching his helmet it’s enough for him, as i said before, Fate powers are the powers of a god and that’s enough to pass Strange powers.

Damn I didn't know that DCEU had it's own comics, it's so cool and they are all canon!

It's questionable whether DCEU characters scale above MCU characters. They are both around island and have ways to go higher. If you want to use Makkari for a speed cap, you have to do similarly for the DCEU with the Flash. the Flash has stated that only when reaching the speed of light, stange effects occur around him. No effects of such were visble when fighting Superman and Wonder woman , It's questionable whether they can actualy scale to FTL.

I didn't know Dr Fate used speed in Black Adam, interesting.

I get what you are trying to say, but I feel like a detail alot of MCU powerscalers over look is that higher tier characters scale much closer to the power stone, captain marvel was able to survive the full force of the power stone with no injury, while she was physically superior to thanos, it wasn’t by an exponential degree that would be teratons to ninatons, that should make characters like thanos, strange, Thor, hulk at least planet to large planet scaling not too much lower than the power stone

question, you guys have stated in your doctor strange video that stephen's full power went up against thano's full power. & in the thor video stated that the power stone & space stone alone have small-large planet level feats. using this, wouldn't doctor strange be planetary, or at least moon level in power? interested in what you have to say about that.

Please do Shangchi vs Green lanterns The two ring users in the two comic universe

Dr.Fate in the comics really is ridiculous fr but I’d say so is Dr.Strange too with that much magic so honestly idk. In my opinion when it comes to this fight I think it’s important to use the comic books as a reference for discussion then the movies since those are where the real abilities are plus they scale much higher. Although based on Movies I feel like it’s unfair since Dr.Fate just showed up compared to Dr.Strange who has much more screen time

We haven't seen enough of Dr Fate on the DCU

This man speaking facts

Imagine if these characters teamed up

Dr.Fate would have the advantage in the mystic pissing contest ... Fate is empowered by a Lord of Order... But conditions may vary .. would like to see it played out.

my money is on doctor fate he is a lord of order one of the most powerful ones he wins

Im amazed that he didn't say dr strange would win. And I'm also amazed that there's no haters in the comments saying that he's wrong and dumb. But I agree, no matter how powerful dr strange is or was, dr fate wipes the floor with him no question

Dr Strange fought wanda who has magic that can destroy the Multiverse in multiverse of madness and may more better physical stats showing in MOM as a Zombie but hay it's your take on it which agree on to a certain degree. Ow sorcerers can resist telepathy as shown in Mom as Wang implied. So minus that and strange has a photographical memory and outsmarted beings with over thousands of years of battle experience so🤔 all in of this happened in the movie. And finally. Saying fate is faster is not being fair to Dr strange who reacted to far stranger wanda than the one that can react to Miss Marvel photon blastes.Dr Fate getting out speed by black adam when a gun was fired to that kid in the movie , all Im saying is this magic fight requires a full break down of spells,stats and resistances shown in their respective movie to not seem as the other ones desreguarded.🤔Anyways great video🙂😌♥️

The russo's confirmed Strange and Thanos were going full power against each other. So you can scale Strange that high he also contained a reality shattering spell and held the multiverse from tearing with his magic.

Doubt Fate is doing anything mentally to Strange if not even Wanda could get into the reinforced minds of Kamar Taj Masters. And she’s shown mental hax on a far greater scale than anything in DCEU. Wanda vs Fate would be cool though, although I would Say regarding Makkari, her lore and Ikaris’ Earth / Sun feat would make her MFTL+ while her searching feat was done pretty casually.

Dr. Fate could solo the entire Justice League with one hand tied behind his back. The only superheroes in DC who are at his level are the original Green Lantern (Alan Scott) and of course, The Spectre.

You guys should power scale Werewolf by Night and Elsa Bloodstone

do Snyderverse Batman(BVS,ZSJL) vs Hawkman(DCEU)

You shot stepinwolf as who they defeated, however in Zac Snyder justice league, it was Darkseid

Do JSA vs Justice League who would win MCU or DCEU

If the sling ring could help spiderman escape the mirror dimension I assume strange can simply teleport out

This is not even fair. Strange has had two solo outings and multiple guest spots to flesh out his punching power. Just from what we've seen, there is no argument that Strange runs Dr Fate's shit. Mirror Dimension is too broken. I will just add that Dr Fate's showing was pretty serviceable. (He held off Black Adam and Sabboc by himself~the former two are peers to Snyderman. He also was able to telepathically communicate with BA at the bottom of the ocean, while fighting Sabboc and maintaining a barrier to keep the JSA members at bay)

Couldn't Dr Fate Teleport out of the mirror dimension though? Also, the sling ring is very powerful... But now it's a running joke Dr Strange can't even keep a hold of it... GG Marvel in making a smart character look dumb.