Doctor Strange VS Doctor Fate - Who Will Win? | MCU vs DCEU | BATTLE ARENA | Black Adam 

Agreed. I don't care what kind of mumbo jumbo they need to do, bring Pierce/Fate back. He was easily the best part of that movie.

strange is not in the dceu, he is in marvel

He meant meant dceu dr.fate is more experienced than strange in MCU

Has Dr Strange been put through millions of years of experience through the time loop with Dormammu? We don't know for sure how long Nabu is in the movie

This proves that you don't read comics. Doctor Fate possess powers similar to Scarlet Witch, which is order magic the polar opposite of the Chaos magic. Stop with this misinformation.

@@sohaibmalik6846 "Stop with this misinformation." He says as we're talking about the movie versions

Yet died, couldn’t even defeat Black Adam nor sabaac and did nothing thought the movie nice. Dr strange turned a black hole into butterflies strange negs him

Yep especially when has the power of Egypt God in his helmet Nabu seems like a good mentor🛡🛡.

@@Axel-nm7st bro i dont even want to get started

@@Zero-ls7tp Cool, then don’t.

@@Axel-nm7st i wasnt going against you in that sentence what i meant was “i cant even get started about what is wrong with saying dr.fate wins” 😶

So do i

First of all, Hawkman is literally featless, and sending Black Adam far away with a punch means nothing when Hawkman tried the same thing even with his weapon that got stopped by Black Adam with ease. Sabaac is also featless he also got held by Hawkman, this same Hawkman couldn’t even touch Black Adam in their 2nd fight and was getting thrown through buildings and was behind hurt badly. He didn’t free Black Adam lmao, he just spoke to him and woke him up and motivated him to free himself not Fate lol, Dr fate was useless throughout the movie and Strange turned a Black hole into Butterflies strange negs him

@@Axel-nm7st comics dr fate wins mcu/dceu idk yet

@@Zero-ls7tp This isn’t based on comics, but ok.

@@Axel-nm7st Dr fate has a significant speed advantage like most dceu characters he is also more durable and physically stronger whilst stranges body could be killed with a knife or bullet lol and while fighting sabbac he was nerfed because he held a barrier up and yes he did free black adam Dr fate can also see the future and read minds fate negs strange mcu fanboy

@@Axel-nm7st i was just saying also im adding a topic (comics)

Strange uses the time stone to scan the future and find a moment when the golden helmet is unguarded and he steals it. Behold, STRANGE FATE!

@@protorhinocerator142 With that logic, Fate finds a time when Strange doesnt have the timestone and obliterates him. Fate can transcend space, time, and multiversus whereas Strange is entirely dependant on the little stone that is worthless outside his universe.

@@FrostDK98 Yes and no. In Loki we find out the stones are worthless at the TVA, and in the comics they're like kryptonite. They only work in their origin reality. But in the Doctor Strange movie, DS was able to use the time stone in the Dark Dimension and defeat Dormammu.

That’s due to Nabu omnipotence as a God. Something strange fans keep forgetting is that it wasnt just Kent Nelson in a helmet like the movie made it seem like.

@@FrostDK98 Yes, because Nubu is the God of Order, so Dr. Fate isn't just using magic he's basically communicating with a being that's the abstract concept of order. In a lot of ways, it's like in Marvel where Zeus and Odin aren't actual "beings," they're abstract entities, and Nubu would be in that same league.

Not to mention Dr fates clones was powerful enough to hold down black Adam.

@@spectrexr1 Yeah, that's what I mean, apparently Fate himself is able to do that, because his clones can and they all seem to be independent beings, since they can attack multiple targets while one is also talking to Adam. They're going to bring him back that way too, say one of his clones survived.

@@ThatGamingAsshole or nabu could just bring Kent back. Rock said he gonna be back for more movies. And I'm glad he was my favorite.

Not in live action

@@Jsaul- not in live or comics

@@dream-lj5rz in comics yes in live possibly

Popularity and Power wise: Scarlet Witch.

@@sohaibmalik6846 Dr fate beats wanda

Facts

Then why didn’t he just tell everyone to stay home and he’ll take care of it? He knows the future.

It played out like it did because he couldn’t beat him, he knows the future and that was the only way they’d win with him being the only casualty.

@@eggroll2323 he didnt want hawkman to die

@@eggroll2323: I tell what the person himself who made the movie himself says and your like nah.

Wonder woman

Wonder Woman low diff

@@upfordebate7403 low diff? You must be tripping

that dont compare in comics bro💀 wonder woman in comics is a beast

Yea that’s never gonna happen , Warner brother and Disney aren’t gonna work together.I know there’s been crossovers in the comics but it’s not the same

How about... Dr. Strangefate?

Iirc there was a DC vs Marvel crossover, but Fate interacted with Wanda instead. But dunno if anyone recalls from 2019, Thor # 2 and Doomsday Clock were somewhat connected, hence the rumor if Secret Crisis was born in regards to the Black Winter. Who knows because Manhattan saw the Avengers and Thor saw the Justice League lol 😆

DC won’t allow it. Stan Lee tried to make crossover happen when he was still alive at conventions sadly

The only way I see a crossover happening anytime soon is if it was in a Lego movie!

Atom he was able to hold Black Adam for a moment

Them two would be good friends

Antman

Atom Smasher can grow to 20 stories heights. Antman passed out at like 3 stories height. Need I say more

@@FrostDK98 Endgame Ant-Man grew higher lol

So does Strange I mean we don't know how many years Strange lived during that time loop against Dormamu

Strange was able to stalemate Dormammu who’s an extradimensional being and existed before creation

Using the time stone.

@@inSygn Dr. Strange didn't "live" any amount of years there. He was dieing repeatedly over and over again with no recollection of what happened previously. To Dormammu it could've been 5 million years, but for Strange, it was 2 minutes.

@@inSygn dude the time stone is gone🤣. Even if he did have it, Dr. Fate still wins, he’s a literal God

The helmet can’t be taken off only if you’re as powerful as Hecate Upside down man and nabu

@@aminkamara6060 it can be taken away if it's not on his head. If he's just carrying it around in his hand.

@@justinbelcher3679 nah😑

@@justinbelcher3679 I think he can summon the helmet to him similar to how thor summons his weapons.

@@justinbelcher3679 it’s just like mjolnir You can’t just take it and put it on It doesn’t work like that Cyclone said it when atom smasher was about to touch it Just by touching it you either get killed or you see nasty visions

noticed since the first trailer came out, and it has always bugged me

@@NavizarLubis Justice is blind, not heartless

the helmet lacks eyehole becuse it is not needed, the person is just a body, helmet is real dr fate. the person is possesed by helmet accordind to movies. the helmet does not need to show its host/victim what is going on.

I did not like that..generally Fate could have been better..

In comics black Adam defected and Even humiliated Dr fate, Adam literally laughed on his magic so stop saying that he is nerfed, everyone's is nerfed in live action.

@@hela5523 yeah fate was jobbing hard in that comic. adam wouldn’t be laughing at all fate’s high end feats and would get taken down without too much trouble

@@talentroller4413 but he was tho it’s literally in the comics……..

@@dream-lj5rz yeah and i said it wax en encounter he jobbed. i.e. he lost because the plot needed him to lose and wasntwritten at his best. the same reason any comic character has random losses to piss weak opponents they’d normally destroy but lose because the plot needs them to lose. you look new to comics if you have never encountered that

every character is nerfed in live action how is that proving your point Strange wins lol. obviously Strange has more feats but Fate was shown way more powerful and experienced than Strange.

Dr fate will get his own movie and appearances in more movies

And why kent nelson in black adam just let himself killed ? The helmet is gone.. To save hawkman ? Bro, hawkman can reincarnated as many as possible Nerfed so bad i think

@@TheCzx Kent Nelson is old. Centuries old. He wanted to die. He said it himself. First time in centuries he looked ahead of time and saw nothing. As the embodiment of fate. What he did was accepting his own fate like everyone else should. As for the helmet, it’s simply just moved to another host. As for Hawkman, yes he’s immortal but if he dies, it’s not like he can just resurrect himself back to a full grown adult instantly. He has to be born again, raise from a child to a man, and he has to regain his thousand years of memories which takes time. He’s just gonna be reborn in a new generation. My only problem with superhero hero movies that shared universes is that they all act like they are the only protectors of the world. The JSA keep saying, “if we don’t stop the villains the world burns.” Then later we find out Superman is actually around. Someone like doctor fate should’ve known that was fight for Superman. In fact, Fate could’ve get his ass on the scene a lot quicker. Yeah I know it’s not his movie and actors and studio deals and all that. But seriously, did his superhearing stopped working? Or did he take a break from floating above the earth? I’m just saying there are so many ways and reasons why Superman could and would show up a lot sooner.

This

Adam wins

Thor

Thor stomps easy

@@KingBeyonder616 he gets stomped. too slow and gets hurt by a lot less on a consistent basis

Thor wins mid diff

Dr. Strange STOMPS. It’s not even close. Marvel is just way too strong.

Comics? Fate stomps no diff lol Live action is debatable tbh speed vs more shown abilities

@@SIoyvenheaven1T800m101 in comics Fate slams, in live action, you could make an argument for either

@@cscantmiss6892 Dr. Strange stomps either way.

@@dutchdario635 Dr. Strange stomps either way kiddo.

With no feats of it yet don’t get ahead of yourself

He literally used a single spell to dream-walk and now cant use that specific spell without the Darkhold, let’s not overw**k here!

@@rtnra black adam has no strange feats on par with superman yet danco said they were equal.

@@doomthagoon8512 yes black Adam does he lifted a statue that weighed at least 80-100 tons and perceives time slower than everybody excluding Superman they are comparable Superman is better but they are definitely COMPARABLE

@@JinxLoveLetter your right but fate is physically stronger and faster and more experienced The man literally hurt black Adam and sabbac and kept up with them and restrained them for a good minute and you dr strange has dog shit speed honestly can’t take something from a lifeless Peter Parker body who is nowhere near light speed or sound speed and he couldn’t restrain thanos with at least a hundred clones dr date restrained beings stronger than thanos wit 6-10 dr fate has everything he needs to win speed strength knowledge experience teleportation powerful clones illusions dr fate high diff

If Wanda dream walks into the dceu they’d definitely team up 😉

Read JLA Avengers

Wonderful… l’ll go with Dr strange always…y’all need to rewatch the match between Dr strange and Thanos he fucking did some pretty stuff and that was not even the strange we have now the strange we’ve now is fucking good just doing like him carrying a weak and mortal body.

Fate no Problem Og comic Fate is broken He can solo most of fiction

@Crispy N Crunchy Fate even more

Comics wise is definitely Dr Fate

@@MINK2393 Nah. Like I've said... Debatable and impossible to accurately decide a true victor.

@@bobitzathegodofcomedy5979 Kent one shots

@@grandcanyon-fu9ztAdorable...Wanking at its finest.

@@bobitzathegodofcomedy5979 say the marvel stooge

No. Fate is Fate. Kent Nelson becomes Fate if he wears the helmet. Fate lives in the helmet.

Strange isnt strong enough to remove Fate’s helm.

@@FrostDK98 not strength to remove the mask my friend

He doesn't need to remove the Helmet with force he can bargain with Nabu. I mean the Helmet was a hosts to a bunch of people already even a male stripper once.

@@undeadghoul Does the male stripper Nabu wear nothing but the helmet?

Thanks alot

But then again he also got wrecked by them (especially Scarlett witch). It'd be different if he actually won but he lost pretty badly to Wanda multiple times

@@talophoenix7880 okay? But he put a lot of fights against them, beings who’s fate haven’t got up against in movies yet

Is this a joke? Scarlet witch is not even reaching that level in the comics and don’t even try to mention “house of m🤓” as for thanos with infinity gauntlet he’s not even reaching mcu doctor strange level he just has a shit ton of hax to fil the powe gap . He was just going to reduce everything in the universe to atoms not even destroy it. How do any of these at best galaxy level feats have anything to do with universeal ? Better yet multiversal? Lol it just shows how susceptible to power scaling terms without knowing what they mean. “Universe level” and “multiverse” level are a set amount of power. With requirements. It’s not wording you throw around just because there “strong”

@@drvictorvondooooom103 yes they are wtf? There’s a lot of examples of them literally threatening the universe and the multiverse. Yes even in comics they are even beyond Multiversal stupid

@@dsm2417 show me consistent feats of without infinity gauntlet thanos being MULTIVERSAL keyword:WITHOUT and show consistent feats of scarlet witch no wank amped no more mutants nonsense BASE scarlet witch having consistent feats for multiverse level at all. Then we’ll talk like gentle man. I’ll wait. And don’t say any trifling nonsense either show me consistent or don’t speak at all retard.

Fate Doomslayer Black Adam Omni Man Shazam In my opinion

Scarlet witch easy stomps DCEU verse Ikr Thanos Zod Shazam

@@KingBeyonder616 scarlet witch gets speedblitzed 1 shot by the majority of the heavy hitters in DC Let alone the ones with magic resistance like black Adam ww or Dr fate

@@KingBeyonder616 Fate stomps wanda 💀

Scarlet Witch solos them

Death battle is shit

@THE WRITER Trust me, Check them out. They get into every Detail, Origin, Back to the Original Comic. They compare them. Trust me.

Rogue beat Wonder woman in death battle💀

@@arvelallen8874 But the live action Dr. date didn't even exist when that came out. The movie Fate was heavily nerfed, and this seems to be exclusively movies. So that video doesn't apply as much here.

@@PJmachine You know Dr Fate was first right.

We never saw that in the movies. Based on the feats, Dr Strange has a good chance of winning

@Crispy N Crunchy Lol that's absolutely ridiculous. Just compare how he fights with Thanos to how Spider-Man fights against Thanos.

@Crispy N Crunchy Doctor Strange spends more time talking to Spider-Man than actually fighting. And he barley uses any of his powerful moves. If all you took from that fight is that Spider-Man would ACTUALLY be able to beat Strange in a DEATH MATCH, then you completely misunderstand lol. Just think about how quickly Wanda would kill Spidey and how Strange was able to survive. Don't equate plot armor to actual power.

@Crispy N Crunchy Maulers review of Multiverse of Madness doesn't negate his previous feats. And again, what does Dr Fate do in the movie that makes him better than Strange. Based solely on the movies, which this battle is based on, Dr. Strange has stronger feats.

@Crispy N Crunchy The movie shows that Fate is clearly able to be hurt by magic. And Dr. Strange almost always uses the mirror dimension against people.

😂😂😂

Not with that hack James gunn at the helmet sadly

Hahahahahaha boy were you wrong ...holy crap hope you didn't really belive that lmao

This comment aged like milk 🥛

@legendslog3911 yea fr. Not my fault tho dc is stupid af

But not to win superman

His gonna give it to strange

Yeah Dr. Strange

Correct.

Well that's not fair...You include the Darkhold for Dr Strange, You must include the Book of Destiny/Book of Souls for Dr Fate 🤷‍♂️

@@NJ0711 doesn't fate already have his helmet?

Well yes but this makes it seem like Kent Nelson with the Helmet is equal to Dr Strange without the darkhold...So in that case why not have the book of destiny/book of soul for Dr Fate and have them on equal footing 🤷‍♂️

In his own film.

@@markjohnson3196 right

We need a Dr Fate vs Scarlett Witch comparison.

They are evenly matched the movie just overpowered wanda

@@deleted01 No thnx I like wanda alive

Still dr fate but itll be much closer

@@FrostDK98 😂😂😂😂 let's not lie

@@samuraisings5105 boy didn't watch the vid. Wanda aint gonna ride you for hyping her up boy. Only one doing any riding is you on Marvel's dck. Sit back down

@@FrostDK98 Dr fate has nothing that can harm her bro, and now is this comment D riding, ☹️

@@samuraisings5105 Dr Fate is immune to reality warping and only one of his superstrength clones can literally oneshot Wanda.The best part is in comics Dr Fate outscales Wanda DRASTICALLY lmao. I told you to sit down

They both have similar power sets if one traps the other in a time loop or other dimension the one whose trapped would just leave

@@khaleelmohammed9924 I don't feel like I've seen Doctor Fate having anything like the mirror dimension, and I think the time stone overrules any spell he can create to manipulate time-it's the literal infinity stone of time.

Its so much more than that. The fact his clones have superstrength and strange’s dont. The fact that fate’s durability is similar to black adam while strange is just a man. The fact that Nabu is an omnipotent God who sees all fates and strange doesnt have the time stone anymore. It keeps going

@@FrostDK98 yea but if he was as durable why did he die? And they would have to Catch Doctor strange while he can create forcefields as well.

@@demos2202 kid Fate can insta teleport. There is no one better to catch him than Fate. Also, I don’t think you watched the movie cause he took off the helm before death and 5 mins prior rejoiced that he was no longer cursed with seeing every future so he was happy to go. He was 120 yrs old

@@FrostDK98 shit he didn't insta teleport to the villain in the movie haaha stop with the kid I'm 30 and I'm not going back and forth all I'm saying was Doctor Strange is way faster with his hand gestures than what Danco was giving him credit for.

@@demos2202 he only die bc he took off his helmet and was happy to die. Better die to save your friends than be humiliated by a teenage boy with webs and maths.

This is it ..

Thanos

@Crispy N Crunchy and got beaten by a weak lightning.