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@Hemdian
@Hemdian 3 года назад
Soldier: "You will lay down any weapons on your person" The Doctor: Puts down his spoon
@sisterjesscah
@sisterjesscah 3 года назад
This series finale(the trio) I think was focused on the Doctor and him dealing with the loss of Clara, who arguably is one of the most important people in his many lives. In many ways, she made him who he is. And having to let go of her in such a tragic and sudden way - I can imagine that is difficult. And his losing all memory of her is very poignant and fitting.
@isaacwright8211
@isaacwright8211 3 года назад
I really like this finale and SPOILERS: the fact that the ending of the husbands of river song is all about accepting a loved one's death much like how clara died here and he tries to stop it before realising he can't, imo this trio + tHoRS are about the doctor overcoming his god complex and realising he can't save everyone
@cid7016
@cid7016 3 года назад
“Run like hell because you always need to. Laugh at everything because it's always funny. Never be cruel and never be cowardly. And if you ever are, always make amends.” I just freaking love Capaldi.
@jeckjeck3119
@jeckjeck3119 3 года назад
@@provisionalhypothesis Yea, F pears!
@alex_gaimar
@alex_gaimar 3 года назад
The first episode of the series, Magician's Apprentice: CLARA: Since when do you care about the Doctor? MISSY: Since always. Since the Cloister Wars. Since the night he stole the moon and the President's wife. Since he was a little girl. One of those was a lie. Can you guess which one?
@shauntempley9757
@shauntempley9757 3 года назад
It was the little girl. All the other mentions are Doctor Who stories on Gallifrey or involving the planet.
@nikdik154
@nikdik154 3 года назад
He was a little girl
@Kayta-Linda
@Kayta-Linda 2 года назад
There’s no way he could’ve been a little girl. His first life was a boy, and so were all 12 of his natural regenerations.
@the_judge_8262
@the_judge_8262 3 года назад
This episode showed how much Jenna Coleman as an actress, with multiple seasons behind her had really developed as an actress. That scene when she breaks down after realising how long the doctor had waited to get to Gallifrey, such a great moment capturing how the Doctor needed Clara in the last episode to "get off his arse" but also needed her again to slap him out of grief and move on, to stop clinging onto moments from the past. Contrast this to the episode where Rose tried to save her dad by meddling with time, in this episode we finally finally finally see the Doctor go through that same unwillingness to deal with loss and unwilling to let Clara go, because of a so called duty of care. He broke the rules of time, he allowed himself to go through one hell of a time loop, just to get Clara back. he didn't give a damn about gallifrey and timelords or the hybrid. For me this was a great conclusion to the complexities of grief, everything else is just a distraction, that you would give up just to have that person back, so much you can forget what you are actually doing because you are so consumed by that grief. The only real escape for the Doctor would be better to have lived without ever knowing that person in the first place. The last interaction with Clara and the Doctor was touching too. Alex, you were right, no violation here, this was personal and about the relationship between Clara and the Doctor. For anyone who took offense at Clara for no reason, this episode meant nothing and they were probably just looking for some sci fi.
@SeanS102
@SeanS102 3 года назад
Yup, this is a show about characters, sure the rest of it too, but characters first and foremost, I don't know what people wanted from Hell Bent, but I'll be honest, it sounds really really boring.
@ftumschk
@ftumschk 3 года назад
@@SeanS102 They probably wanted blockbusting action, epic music, lots of explosions, a high body-count and some favourite monsters/villains brought in for good measure. That's what a lot of finales seem to do, at least! Speaking for myself, I thought the more "personal" Hell Bent made an interesting change.
@SeanS102
@SeanS102 3 года назад
@@ftumschk I agree, being more personal is a fascinating choice. Here's the thing, though, even all those other big explosive finales have an emotional undercurrent, so it baffles me as to why people are so frustrated with Clara's return, the finale would be bizarrely unconnected had it been a story about some mad hybrid monster, and some kind of Gallifreyan war.
@ftumschk
@ftumschk 3 года назад
@@SeanS102 Exactly. Personally, I think Hell Bent works well in context. It might not be the best finale, but I can't see that it deserves the low regard in which some hold it.
@SeanS102
@SeanS102 3 года назад
@@ftumschk Yeah, I mean it's not my absolute favourite, but I think it's a beautiful piece of work
@jooie444
@jooie444 3 года назад
Rachel Talalay did ask Timothy Dalton but sadly this episode clashed with him filming Penny Dreadful.
@marauderdz
@marauderdz 3 года назад
"There's one thing I know about her. Just one thing. If I met her again, I would absolutely know."
@paulrichards4452
@paulrichards4452 3 года назад
This episode gets a lot of hate however there are some really nice and beautifully acted moments. The scene where Clara finds out how long the Doctor had been in the confession dial was such a great performance between Peter Capaldi and Jenna Coleman. It ends on a high note but Clara will still face her death its just that she has some extra time. In a way she now must face her death all over again. Its not what I would have done but its o.k. Great reaction.
@freyjarichardson1519
@freyjarichardson1519 3 года назад
I love this episode. Ik this is long but please read I think it might change one or two people's views, hopefully 😂😂😬 The entire season built up to it. We see just how their relationship is so toxic that the doctor would break every rule he could think of even if it gave her just one more heartbeat. People keep saying it should've ended in face the raven and whilst I like her death (not that she's dead coz I love her I just like the episode ok😂😂) but anyone who truly believed that was not thinking about it enough. The entire season we saw things gradually get worse and worse and Clara was becoming the doctor. Clara becoming the doctor was, because of this episode, not just her dying (and she obviously did go back idc about the theories that she didn't, it's heavily implied she did) but we got to see her becoming the doctor also hurt the doctor and made him more like the time lord victorious we see in Tennant, as well as the doctor losing his memory of her. Hell bent concludes their relationship perfectly and also completes the arc. People complain about how small a part Gallifrey was, but that's the point. The doctor was so far gone and so angry that even something as big as Gallifrey didn't concern him anymore, his one and only thought was Clara, aka the conclusion we had been building. Also worth noting that like half the people who complain are literally just haters who wanted Clara dead even tho she still died and this end was imo more tragic but they ain't ready for that convo🙄😂
@IDidntSetAHandle
@IDidntSetAHandle 3 года назад
It would have been nice to see the Doctor react emotionally to Gallifrey in some way at all. 12 was still bottling things at this point, but given the angst 9, 10 and 11 all went through, it would have been in-character to see more. I actually totally agree with Alex when at the start, he says it would seem like two episodes are in order. One to see the Doctor taking in the enormity of what finding Gallifrey means to him. The second to remember why he ran away from it in the first place, and to do so again. I do like the Clara resolution and although the death-reversal feels cheap just by nature, I agree with you about it being an earned end to the 12 / Clara arc. I do have an issue with a flying diner-TARDIS though. I'm trying not to be reductive, but honestly, I feel the final goofy shot totally undermines the credibility of the whole episode.
@freyjarichardson1519
@freyjarichardson1519 3 года назад
@@IDidntSetAHandle I mean I must say I'm a sucker for a goofy shot😂😂 and ye I totally get why people would've liked it to be two episodes (and we would've if it was 13 episodes like before 🙄) but I still love this episode despite it coz let's face it I love the dodgy episodes 😂😂
@josefschiltz2192
@josefschiltz2192 3 года назад
@@freyjarichardson1519 It just reminded me of Professor Chronotis.
@Concreteowl
@Concreteowl 3 года назад
He never said it was him. He said it was Me.
@jacobhogan3208
@jacobhogan3208 3 года назад
No, it's meant to imply Ashildr. That's the general consensus.
@ftumschk
@ftumschk 3 года назад
The Doctor literally says "I became the Hybrid" in this episode.
@Concreteowl
@Concreteowl 3 года назад
@@ftumschk he is often wrong. All three stood in the ruins of Gallifrey. Maybe everyone is a hybrid. 😁
@ftumschk
@ftumschk 3 года назад
@@Concreteowl The Doctor's so selfish... it's all "me, me, Me" ;)
@the_judge_8262
@the_judge_8262 3 года назад
P.s. Alex, you didn't recognise the diner? The last time we see it, there were a lot of blue envelopes .......EDIT, maybe you did in your full reaction, also, the barn and I believe that actress is the same one from Listen .... Consoling young doctor in the barn
@hilzabub
@hilzabub 3 года назад
I love this episode, and I loved your reaction. I can't wait for your reaction to the next Christmas special. The one after that, meh. People hate Clara, people love Clara. People hate this episode, people love this episode. It's all fine.
@zohrafatima.4878
@zohrafatima.4878 3 года назад
The hybrid is both human and time lord its Donna xD only joking but yeah next Christmas is the best so far clue about what It's like She Dies She Cries She reprises She surprises He survives He realises He Reconciliated He Appreciated She saves He He saves She And they live happily ever after THE END
@zohrafatima.4878
@zohrafatima.4878 3 года назад
Ain't nobody got time for that sassy know it all varnish demonic love story between those too nasty though the first one omg
@Joey15811
@Joey15811 3 года назад
Love clara. But honestly from capaldid era the episodes start becoming meh, forgettable or awful bar a few good ones (like raven, zygons, 1 next season, the lake) And the gender swapping really dragged the show down from his seasons Missy was bad enough but now it just becomes every regeneration on screen. It came too late for it to feel natural because of how many males the doctor had been in a row and same with any other timelord/lady. And next era is just unwatchable and a different show tbf.
@zohrafatima.4878
@zohrafatima.4878 3 года назад
So what your saying is that because the doctor is female it is a completely different show never mind regeneration being "I got kidneys,I don't like the colour". Your more concerned that people look at the 2 Gallifrey then her in an individual like seriously i'd rather Alex Kingston or Megan McCarthy or Joseph Surf as the doctor for Peter but he is still great and btw the end of 2022 there will be a new doctor so look forward to that might be a boy anyways the Peter Capalidi series so far is great cause of the next episode he is going to do
@Joey15811
@Joey15811 3 года назад
Zohra Fatima. Not particularly. The regeneration if it was a one off and added as an extremely rare chance it would have been fine but the fact we had 50 years prior with no mention of it, 12 male doctors in a row and every other regeneration also being to the same gender the fact EVERY regeneration from Series 8 onwards is a gender swapping just feels forced in and far too late for it to be all of them. On top of that we have the forced pc agenda swapping and lectures every episode that every episode is more like a school trip saying “racism bad” “males bad” “dads are bad” “pollution bad”. When its every episode it gets to a point its overkill. Not to mention Whittaker and Cole are horrendous actors. And then series 12... that retconning abomination needs retconning back out. Junk it and delete all clips and audio too! While new series only viewer don’t mind it but the majority who have seen all the show despise it.
@james_luigi6366
@james_luigi6366 3 года назад
I never really liked how Me survived to the end of the universe with 1 single chip however Jack with literally the universe keeping him alive wasn't able to.
@Rudromukherjeenerv
@Rudromukherjeenerv 3 года назад
I love Hell Bent, its so good! I'm a big Clara fan, so I loved it. I can understand the Clara haters disliking it though, but hey, their loss.
@Rudromukherjeenerv
@Rudromukherjeenerv 3 года назад
Also, props to Rachel Talalay! She knocked it out of the park with these last two episodes!
@freyjarichardson1519
@freyjarichardson1519 3 года назад
Sammeeee
@RAP7ORv
@RAP7ORv 3 года назад
Finale Villains: Series 1 - Daleks Series 2 - Daleks/Cybermen Series 3- The Master Series 4 - Davros & The Daleks Series 5 - Unknowingly, The Silence Series 6 - The Silence Series 7 - Great Intelligence Series 8 - The Master/Cybermen Series 9 - The Doctor
@Joey15811
@Joey15811 3 года назад
Series 5: daleks in both parts and others in cameo
@RAP7ORv
@RAP7ORv 3 года назад
@@Joey15811 They weren't the main villain though. I was going for the main villains.
@Joey15811
@Joey15811 3 года назад
GPWrestling silence werent on screen for it. On screen the daleks
@RAP7ORv
@RAP7ORv 3 года назад
@@Joey15811 Yes but they blew up the TARDIS and created the events of the finale. Unknowingly at the time. But it was still them.
@jasonusher3824
@jasonusher3824 3 года назад
great reaction, this is a top 5 episode for me, everything about it is perfect to me, i really love the Doctor playing Clara's theme on the guitar (which to me is the best piece of music this show has ever produced), and when Clara asks the Doctor why he would suffer through 4.5 billion years and he says I have a Duty of Care, just brilliantly performed, and then Clara with the reversing the polarity and her arguing with him and then him giving his goodbye speech was perfection
@Concreteowl
@Concreteowl 3 года назад
The Time Lords are the monsters.
@Gada101
@Gada101 3 года назад
The villain of series 5 was the Silence. They blew up the Tardis causing the crack.
@AmyWarriorPrincess
@AmyWarriorPrincess 3 года назад
Believe it or not a lot of people don't like this episode, but I do. I think it's really good. I prefer to say I like what people don't and I don't like what people like. That's what makes the world go round I guess. Lol
@robvanriot
@robvanriot 3 года назад
I suspect the reason that some people dislike this episode is that it sort of undoes Face the Raven. You never really bought that Clara was dead on first viewing, which I did, so when I saw this when it was first broadcast I was kind of annoyed. Once I got over that I appreciated the episode for its emotional punch, and those scenes with Clara and the Doctor where she realises how far he went to save her are beautiful. You're absolutely right that some people just hate Clara though, and so that clouds their judgement.
@christofferoff808
@christofferoff808 3 года назад
This is such a divisive episode, but I'm firmly in the love it camp. The entire episode is an emotional arc, and it works wonderfully as that. Admittedly it has some issues - I can understand not liking Clara getting away at the end, or the fact that Gallifrey is kind of shafted, or the Doctor shooting the General. But in my opinion the good far outweighs the bad, because the episode isn't about any of that - it's about ending the Doctor and Clara's relationship. Clara has had a million endings, but I'm of the opinion that this is the best one. Her exit in Face the Raven kind of doesn't count because this episode was always planned as a part of that arc, but even counting that ending, I prefer this one because of the emotion in their scenes together.
@whocaresreallly5886
@whocaresreallly5886 3 года назад
She flies like a cafe but she handles like a bistro
@dwilborn1257
@dwilborn1257 3 года назад
So excited for the Christmas specials... love both, but especially the one that's next up.
@oldwebshooter
@oldwebshooter 3 года назад
Donna wasn't the first companion to have their memory wiped, so technically it's a repeat of ___ not Donna B-)
@icantthinkofagoodusername4575
@icantthinkofagoodusername4575 3 года назад
The 13th Doctor’s sonic Screwdriver actually looks like A vibrater I’m not joking
@freyjarichardson1519
@freyjarichardson1519 3 года назад
Honestly I wouldn't even use that as a vibrator it still looks too dodgy 😂
@ftumschk
@ftumschk 3 года назад
As if the others don't. They obviously do, otherwise we wouldn't have had those sonic/knob-gags in "The Crimson Horror" and "Day of the Doctor".
@dutchman8887
@dutchman8887 3 года назад
tough to decide between this and heaven sent but the more i see this the more i think hell bent is my favourite episode of doctor who. it has the most great scenes of any episode. its amazingly well written, acted, directed and the score is also amazing. it completes claras arc perfectly. its a deep episode, its sad its epic. amazing stuff. again 10/10 is not generous enough for this. i dont want to be cringe and say masterpiece but when an episode is so well done then it must be. edit: about the hybrid whilst it is sort of unimportant it is also important and the doctor and clara do fulfil the requirements. heaven sent the doctor destroys a billion hearts to heal his own, in hell bent they stand in the ruins of gallifrey, and theres multiple things you could say are unravelling the web of time. also claras arc is not just becoming like the doctor its basically becoming as much like the doctor as she could be. in this episode she gets as close as she can to regeneration and then gets her own tardis.
@iain9757
@iain9757 3 года назад
The Cloister Wars were referenced in The Magicians Appreciate and that’s it, we had no idea what happened
@shauntempley9757
@shauntempley9757 3 года назад
The Invisible Assassin triggered the Cloister Wars, and Trial Of A Time Lord ended them. Both featured battles in the Matrix, which is what the Cloisters are. The physical existence of the Matrix. The Cloisters are the computer hardware and the Matrix is the software. The Cloister Wars was a civil war among the Chapter Houses of the Time Lords, fighting for control of the Cloisters knowledge. The Doctor Who universes War Of The Roses. Today's generation equivalent is Game Of Thrones.
@shexec32
@shexec32 3 года назад
Remember when we told you that Clara-haters would get their pitchforks out if Moffat tried to bring back Ms Oswald after her death in Face the Raven? While there wasn't any rioting in Cardiff off the back of this episode, this episode was a gift to the toxic fandom channels on RU-vid, seeing increased subscribers as a result. That was a mistake - toxic fandom has been blighting Doctor Who for quite a while now.
@Darkhooper
@Darkhooper 3 года назад
I don't know if anyone said it but I'm gonna say it anyway: a Doctor Who spin-off series called 'Class' was released between the next two Christmas Specials that you are going to watch. It is composed of 8 episodes and the story focuses on some Coal Hill Academy students. It could be interesting if you could react to this series as you reacted to Torchwood and SJA Adventures.
@7thHourFilms
@7thHourFilms 3 года назад
I have thought about it but it won't be anytime soon. It will either be on the poll to replace Doctor Who or I'll do it on Saturdays after One Punch Man.
@flaggerify
@flaggerify 2 года назад
Is that his mother at 3:52? Same music we heard when Tennant sees Claire Bloom in The End of Time,
@melissaisloud7404
@melissaisloud7404 3 года назад
The screwdriver in my cup has a little more vitamin C and vodka than yours, but nonetheless I approve!
@stuartarmstrong5190
@stuartarmstrong5190 3 года назад
"Series 5 didn't have a villain". Um - only the Daleks, Cybermen, Sontarans, Judoon, Silurians and lots of others I can't even remember! lol. But I know what you mean.
@cargo71
@cargo71 3 года назад
Well, he was right: Series 5 didn´t have A villain...
@iansmith4023
@iansmith4023 3 года назад
When I stated that Hell Bent was,for me,better than Heaven Sent,what I really meant was that the former is underestimated,while the latter is somewhat overrated. If last weeks had a cyclical yet simple concept,this one is twisty; infuriating;intriguing,and always interesting. The flash forward and flashbacks;the ingenious scheme to extricate Clara from her timeline; the mystery of the hybrid; the machinations on Gallifrey;the Classic TARDIS;the Matrix; the memory loss - none of this is predictable. Fans have belittled this Finale,and it puzzles me as to why. I assume they were expecting some slam-bang action Finale (Heaven Sent is a heck of a build-up!) which never happened. Were they disappointed that Gallifrey was almost incidental to the resolution of the plot? Yet, Gallifrey is presented exactly as it always was in the Classic series - a technologically bland place,filled with back-stabbing political figures. It makes complete sense for the Doctor to use them only for his own ends and then steal a TARDIS and run away. Just as he did all those many years ago. What else would he do? And,in the end,he knows nothing of Clara. He begins again. For me it's a fascinating,twisting Finale. No climactic battles. No OTT heroism. Just the Doctor saving his friend,and then forgetting all about it. It needs to be re-evaluated.
@Mrazmatmahmood
@Mrazmatmahmood 3 года назад
You betrayed me. Betrayed my trust, you betrayed our friendship, you betrayed everything that I've ever stood for. You let me down!
@the_judge_8262
@the_judge_8262 3 года назад
I don't think heaven sent was overrated (it was pretty bold choice/format) for an episode, but agree this episode was great and more complex, more layered study of grief. There were some really great interactions between Clara & the Doctor. The subtlety of those moments perhaps was lost on fans who wanted a bigger sci fi , hybrid, gallifrey story episode. When the doctor is telling the girl (who he doesn't know is Clara) about his memories and the iceman and other adventures, Clara gives that amazing half teary look because she knows but can't say, and that whole event helps give her a sense of her own closure knowing that the Doctor still valued their time together and she did mean something to him, even if he just couldn't remember who she was. That scene just wouldn't have made any sense if the story had been told in a lateral non timey wimey scene hopping way, which is why that was great in this episode 👍🏼
@7thHourFilms
@7thHourFilms 3 года назад
Alfred in Dark Knight Rises: I trusted you and you failed me! (That's actually the reverse of the quote but I find it funnier)
@brianhegarty2902
@brianhegarty2902 3 года назад
Before I even watch, I going to predict you will say "I godam knew it!"
@icantthinkofagoodusername4575
@icantthinkofagoodusername4575 3 года назад
This is the Last Jedi of Doctor Who episodes when you consider how split it was with the fan base and the way it subverted expectations
@jeckjeck3119
@jeckjeck3119 3 года назад
Spoilers.
@jeckjeck3119
@jeckjeck3119 3 года назад
The warship came. The Doctor: *Closes the door* The general with his personal guards came. The Doctor: *Closes the door* The entire high council of time lords came. The Doctor: *Closes the door* The Lord president Rassilon (one of the 3 prime time lords) came. The Doctor: *Closes the door* ''...'' ''...'' Rassilon: ''He is fucking with us, isn't he?''
@bluestar2059
@bluestar2059 3 года назад
"The first thing you notice about the Doctor of War is that he's unarmed." Yes, the Doctor went about in the Time War against Daleks, monsters, and who knows what else UNARMED. And he's the man that won. Somehow, him being totally unarmed in the middle of all that and still being that dangerous, that makes the legend a bit scarier.
@whobp8
@whobp8 3 года назад
The villains in the Season Six finale were the Silence. You just forgot about them, which is okay cuz that's kind of their thing. This is a polarizing episode that a lot of people really love and a lot of people really hate. I have to admit that I'm in the hate camp. I won't go into my reasons why, cuz I don't want to detract from your enjoyment of it. Suffice it to say that I found it a letdown after the excellent Heaven Sent. I'm glad it worked for you though. Be aware, there are actually two Christmas specials before season ten begins, because the show took a yearlong hiatus. While I don't particularly care for this episode, I love the next one and can't wait to see your reaction to it
@MrMaster7112765
@MrMaster7112765 3 года назад
I was going to go on a massive rant after the video, but I really can't be bothered to even watch this one.
@iain9757
@iain9757 3 года назад
The General is actually in “The 8th Doctor: Time War V4” out today
@josefschiltz2192
@josefschiltz2192 3 года назад
Well, The Doctor and Clara aren't Ronald Colman and Greer Garson - there's a bit more of an age difference. I propose that a small debt should be paid, in part, to James Hilton here, at least for inspiration. To quote. "There was A GIRL!"
@QuantumLockedInStone
@QuantumLockedInStone Год назад
7:52
@SNMG7664
@SNMG7664 3 года назад
They're Gallifreyan their name probably IS just "The General" lmao
@jacobhogan3208
@jacobhogan3208 3 года назад
I'm cool with the end of Clara here but I think it would've been cool also to have the Clara that 12 is talking to have been an echo. It would've been a nice call back to when we first saw Oswin. It might even be comforting to be reminded that Clara has a stamp on the Doctor Who Universe even though she's gone now. (If you were a fan of her that is.) It might of upset less people if it had been an echo instead of the real Clara too. Might have Made those who prefered her FTR exit less annoyed.
@twintea7z
@twintea7z 3 года назад
Even though this is the season finale, don't forget 9x13! :)
@dylanshadowstar9779
@dylanshadowstar9779 3 года назад
6:23 when the episode came crashing down. Starting good but from here it's the Clara lovefest
@ringoreminim3868
@ringoreminim3868 3 года назад
Seriously, then you didn't understand the finale trilogy at all. The Doctor, someone who shouldn't be alone, was alone for billions of years straight after the death of Clara. He NEVER got a chance to mourn her. Whether you liked it or not, this was not a love fest for her, as it was very clear that he was going to resurrect her.
@NomisLime
@NomisLime 3 года назад
I would argue the Doctor was his own villain..
@Hanmacx
@Hanmacx 3 года назад
The doctor used the glasses so that Fans who can't buy the Toys can be the doctor It felt somehow salty when they contradict themselves there
@Hanmacx
@Hanmacx 3 года назад
Clara and Me should have made a spin off with the Tavern at the end of the Multiverse xD
@ClintBandito
@ClintBandito 3 года назад
I honestly feel like this episode really should have been about letting her go. Accepting that he couldn't protect her, he can't save her and she's ready to go.
@davidrandall3978
@davidrandall3978 3 года назад
From The Rings of Akhaten: I saw the birth of the universe and I watched as time ran out moment by moment, until nothing remained - no time, no space, just Me
@joshuajoshua2732
@joshuajoshua2732 3 года назад
I think rassilon was regenerating when the master was zapping him back to Gallifrey in the end of time. That's why there's new actor behind the scenes I don't know. This was an ok finale not the greatest just ok. I would had preferred Clara's exit in face the raven was really disappointed they undone her death cause that was a proper farewell for me. The TARDIS diner was alittle weird. But that's Doctor Who it's spose to be weird. It was an ok episode.
@davis.fourohfour
@davis.fourohfour 3 года назад
Clara will return one day. Everyone faces their raven.
@ElectroTherapyFTSoul
@ElectroTherapyFTSoul 3 года назад
I understand that Moffat was trying to go for a thematic element with the Hybrid rather than a literal sense. Sadly, I just don't think it was very effective. Still a great season and an enjoyable finale.
@isaacwright8211
@isaacwright8211 3 года назад
it's my favourite season I think, although I agree with what you said about the hybrid, still like it tho
@dylanshadowstar9779
@dylanshadowstar9779 3 года назад
Enjoy. This is a controversial one. Some enjoy it. Many people like myself, hate hell bent.
@dragonbugz6715
@dragonbugz6715 3 года назад
I don't actually mind this episode, sure the Clara thing is confusing and stupid but over all I don't mind the episode.
@bananasaregood8655
@bananasaregood8655 3 года назад
Ah the classic ‘clara’s gone....oh no she isn’t!’ Which by this point was beyond a joke lol undid all the great acting and writing of the face the raven ending (sigh)🙄🙄🙄
@The2Coolest2
@The2Coolest2 3 года назад
No reaction to the Amy and Rory part?
@Joey15811
@Joey15811 3 года назад
In my brutal honest opinion this episode is 1 I would junk to save any other missing episode. Its an abomination of an episode
@icantthinkofagoodusername4575
@icantthinkofagoodusername4575 3 года назад
This isn’t even The worst episode of Series 9 when people say it’s the worst ever they clearly haven’t seen episodes from Series 11 and 12 and early McCoy episodes. I think the people that hate it just hate Clara and if it had the exact same plot but with a different companion nobody would give a shit. Imagine if in Series 2 Rose was killed off and The Tenth Doctor returns to Gallifrey and decides to save Rose The Majority of people will be saying how wonderful it was and how RTD is the best thing since slice bread
@thomasleedham6572
@thomasleedham6572 3 года назад
I remember being really angry at this episode when it first came out. I hated it for quite a while but I've come to like it a bit. Not my favourite finale and I certainly prefer the previous episode. I think the fact the hybrid seems to be a damp squib after it was hyped up over the series and the return of the timelords after so long for them to do nothing too important makes it fall flat for me. Saying that all the Gallifrey stuff is good and the emotion of the story works well. I think when I watched it originally I was expecting something very different to what we got. Just a few wasted opportunities in my opinion.
@icantthinkofagoodusername4575
@icantthinkofagoodusername4575 3 года назад
So you’re telling me Me(Ashildr) being the last person in existence is perfectly sane ok
@jeckjeck3119
@jeckjeck3119 3 года назад
She got bored out of the insanity.
@iain9757
@iain9757 3 года назад
What does the first 20 minutes of this episode tell us ?
@kayrayouvmir5766
@kayrayouvmir5766 3 года назад
quite a lot? First of all, the first scene is meant to draw you in and I think Clara's appearance and the entire setting of the Doctor entering the restaurant accomplishes that just fine. Later on, we learn that the Doctor feels much more at home with the common people, rather than aristocracy. That - because of his actions during the Time War - he is way more respected by ordinary Gallifreyans and soldiers alike than someone like Rassilion, than his mere presence carries power and that the Doctor is aware of it, but he uses the reputation to not only accomplish his personal goals, but also to try and make life on the planet better in general by getting rid of those in power. And, of course, it is an elaborate set up for the meat of the episode, aka Clara and the Doctor's relationship, as is usually the case in television. So yeah, I think the first 20 minutes are great
@iain9757
@iain9757 3 года назад
So what was the point of Heaven Sent ?
@jsrgo2773
@jsrgo2773 3 года назад
Who cares about Heaven Sent it was a bad episode that is forgettable
@kayrayouvmir5766
@kayrayouvmir5766 3 года назад
To tell a great story, first and foremost:) But also to show how far the Doctor is willing to go for Clara, or what he perceives to be Clara's wishes (as we find out in this episode, his idea of Clara's perceptions isn't exactly correct), how much he blames himself and is willing to endure in order to "erase his mistakes"
@Mrazmatmahmood
@Mrazmatmahmood 3 года назад
I also hate Clara getting her own Tardis. It completely undermines her ending in ‘Face the Raven’ because she can now travel around the universe in her own TARDIS just like the Doctor. No one else can be the Doctor though. That was the whole point of her arc and then they made a complete U-turn. It removes any consequences for her actions and she gets off scot free. Instead of paying for her actions, she’s rewarded for them! Before someone says, no the Doctor losing his memory isn’t a consequence. Well, I suppose it IS a consequence, but not a satisfying one. The Doctor losing his memory is just a cheap rip off of Donna’s fate in ‘Journey’s End’, but the reason why that worked is because it was a life or death situation. The Doctor had to wipe Donna’s memory to save her from dying. Those kinds of stakes aren’t present here. Instead what we have is a selfish attempt by the Doctor to wipe Clara’s memory in order to prevent the Time Lords from finding her, which would justify his actions. Switching it up and having the Doctor’s memories of Clara being wiped instead is an attempt at subversion by Moffat. I think it’s also meant to be a kind of ‘poetic justice’ too, but it doesn’t work because the Doctor’s our main character. By removing his memory of the last two and a half series, Moffat also removed any potential for character growth. He made everything the Doctor did in this story meaningless. He won’t learn from his mistakes and change. The reason why it worked for Donna is because she was leaving the show as our main companion anyway. We weren’t going to continue to follow her story along like we now have to do with the Doctor.This episode is irredeemably terrible (my least favourite of all time) and I hope my long, long rant has made it clear why. Phew, that feels good! I had a lot to get off my chest, when it came to this episode. I am now very much looking forward to series 10, which is the first good Moffat series, from start to finish, since SERIES 5 imo. Series 5 was broadcast seven years before series 10 btw…
@SeanS102
@SeanS102 3 года назад
The whole point of her arc was not a lesson in her being too arrogant to think she could become the Doctor, that would be a pointlessly cruel story for a companion. She *is* like the Doctor, that's the point! As he puts it himself in Face the Raven "Clara, there's nothing special about me. I am nothing, but I'm less breakable than you", that's just a quirk of biology. There's a reason she stands with her arms out reached, in a regeneration pose, when she is killed by the raven. To say Hell Bent undermines Face the Raven seems like broken logic to me, Face the Raven sets up Hell Bent, it couldn't signpost it any harder than being episode 10 in a 12 episode run. Getting her own TARDIS is just the completion of her journey. Plus, if you really want her dead, we know she'll return to Gallifrey, and die on trap street, so, she's still taught her lesson in the end! I don't agree about the memory wipe either, it hardly reduces character growth, it's made quite clear that the Doctor remembers much of his adventures with Clara, and has rebuilt a lot from the hole she leaves.
@icantthinkofagoodusername4575
@icantthinkofagoodusername4575 3 года назад
I like the way you said Series 5 was just good. I bet you think The Series 1-4 are absolutely perfection
@jsrgo2773
@jsrgo2773 3 года назад
Series 5 was terrible.
@Mrazmatmahmood
@Mrazmatmahmood 3 года назад
@@icantthinkofagoodusername4575 Not quite. "The Long Game", "New Earth", "The Idiot's Lantern", "Fear Her" and "Planet of the Dead" are all below average/bad stories. Stop making bad and inaccurate faith claims. Even if I did think series 1-4 was "perfect", I'm not not sure what that would prove? It would only demonstrate how well written that era is, which it is btw. I just mentioned all the stories I didn't like, but I like all of the rest. So it's pretty close to perfect. 😉
@Mrazmatmahmood
@Mrazmatmahmood 3 года назад
@@icantthinkofagoodusername4575 BTW, I actually think series 5 is great. So, yeah. Just stop embarrassing yourself man.
@connorwood9211
@connorwood9211 3 года назад
Yea this my most disliked episodes. Especially after series 12
@Mrazmatmahmood
@Mrazmatmahmood 3 года назад
You won't find a more divisive episode than ‘Hell Bent’. Some people love it, some people hate it. There never seems to be a middle ground. Unfortunately, I'm one of the many people that hate it. In fact, I DESPISE this episode. First of all, the constant cuts back and forth between the scenes in the café and Gallifrey are annoying and add nothing to the story. It’s just jarring and disrupts the flow (whatever flow this episode actually has) of the episode. It’s another example of Moffat trying too hard to be clever and adding in something to his episodes that would’ve been better off being cut. I’ve also never seen an episode singlehandedly undermine everything that had come before it the way this episode did. All of Clara's development into becoming too much like the Doctor had been leading up to what happened in ‘Face the Raven’. It made sense for it to end the way that it did. Clara was increasingly fancying herself to be as untouchable as the Doctor, she thought she could continue to put her life in danger and take stupid risks because that's what the Doctor would do. It showed how dangerous an influence the Doctor can be on somebody, people feel like they have to live up to him. They couldn't possibly do so though because they're just more breakable. Face the Raven's ending was perfect because Clara died trying to do what the Doctor would. That's what made it so tragic. ‘Hell Bent’ made all of that redundant. Then we come onto how ‘Hell Bent’ affected ‘Heaven Sent’, which is an amazing episode all about the Doctor overcoming the grief that was threatening to consume him at the end of ‘Face the Raven’. He was able to get past what had happened, which is why his actions in this story are so maddening. Moffat made an episode he wrote that was broadcast just ONE week ago, almost completely meaningless. Heaven Sent is too well written though, so I still consider it a classic. Anyway, after the Doctor manages to break through the Azbantium wall (a brilliant metaphor for overcoming his grief), he FINALLY makes it back to Gallifrey. Something that had been building up since the show returned in 2005. Steven Moffat brilliantly set this up himself in ‘The Day of the Doctor’, when all of the Doctor's saved Gallifrey. By saving Gallifrey, the Doctor's new mission was to find it. This episode was the conclusion to all of that! Are you kidding me! BTW, wasn’t Gallifrey supposed to have been “frozen like a painting” back in ‘The Day of the Doctor’? All of a sudden it's ‘unfrozen’ without any explanation in this episode. Yet another example of Moffat being unable to stay consistent within the continuity he established for himself, but I digress. Anyway, we barely spend 20 minutes on Gallifrey at the start and then the whole episode becomes about Clara AGAIN! Even bloody RASSILON, only the most powerful Time Lord that has ever lived, is made to look like a fool and cast aside unceremoniously so that Moffat could get to his BS with Clara. How many times has Clara left by this point anyway? At some point we just stop caring. It's the law of diminishing returns. We just wanted rid of her at this point and ‘Face the Raven’ finally seemed to give us that, but NOPE! She's back again. Death never seemed to be permanent in the Moffat era, there never seemed to be any lasting consequences. No character epitomises this more than Clara, except Rory of course. The creation of the “extraction chamber” only makes this worse. By creating something like that, Moffat has ensured death is never necessarily permanent. Anyone can use that machine and rescue whomever they like! The most frustrating thing about it is that Moffat had to create a machine like that to make his plot work, but he didn’t think through the consequences of such a machine existing in the Doctor Who universe.
@the_judge_8262
@the_judge_8262 3 года назад
This isn't a devisive episode
@Mrazmatmahmood
@Mrazmatmahmood 3 года назад
@@the_judge_8262 It absolutely is. In fact, I would argue the fandom is moving more towards generally disliking 'Hell Bent' in the last year or two.
@the_judge_8262
@the_judge_8262 3 года назад
@@Mrazmatmahmood i disagree because how do you even measure that?? Measure a shift in "the fandom"?
@Mrazmatmahmood
@Mrazmatmahmood 3 года назад
@@the_judge_8262 Just from what I see on RU-vid and Twitter. 'Hell Bent' has always caused plenty of debate, but lately I've noticed people being more down on it than ever. There was also a poll done recently, where it didn't do particularly well. mobile.twitter.com/Big_Dr_Who_Poll/status/1259045711792033793
@the_judge_8262
@the_judge_8262 3 года назад
@@Mrazmatmahmood i think this is kind of my point, it's only geeks like you and I & a few others that still watch reactions and the twitter poll was based on 556 votes. I don't think that reflects mass opinion. I agree some fans at the time wanted more gallifrey and some fans used it as another excuse to bang Clara, and some were disappointed the return to Gallifrey was just a side dish to the story. Every episode has some hate, just not sure this was a divisive episode.
@adorkability
@adorkability 3 года назад
This is one of my least favorite finales, especially after the brilliant episode that "Heaven Sent" was. To me, by making Clara basically immortal, Moffat cheapened her sacrifice in "Face The Raven." Yeah, she has to go back to her death eventually, but she could conceivably travel with Ashildr/Me for a billion years before that happens.
@iain9757
@iain9757 3 года назад
Having Romana being the President would have had more emotion stakes as well be more interested. Speaking of President Romana when 8 saved Charley Pollard from Death the whole universe FRACTURED
@Rocket1377
@Rocket1377 3 года назад
Only if you were a fan of season 16-18. Modern fans would just be confused. If they were going to bring back Romana, it would have to be for more than just a cameo.
@belinda35_77
@belinda35_77 3 года назад
Holy hell..this edit is terrible!! Why would you cut every single scene with all the emotional and important moments??
@cutthr0atjake
@cutthr0atjake 3 года назад
For me this was the weakest finale they've had. I'm glad people like it, but for me it was all crap.
@iain9757
@iain9757 3 года назад
“Heroes are important. Heroes tell us who we want to be but when they made this particular hero they didn’t give him a gun, they gave him a screwdriver to fix things. They didn’t give him a tank or a warship or an X-Wing, they gave him a call box from which you can call for help and they didn’t give him a superpower or a heat-ray, they gave him an extra heart. And that’s extraordinary. There will never come a time when we don’t need a hero like the doctor.” HAHAHA fuck that with 12 and his Tank in s9 and killing the general just because
@SeanS102
@SeanS102 3 года назад
well, you're supposed to think the Doctor is behaving out of character here, that's the point...
@Mrazmatmahmood
@Mrazmatmahmood 3 года назад
Now we come onto the most pointless arc in the shows history, the Hybrid. Where do I even begin? Did we ever find out what it was, where the theory originated from? The fact that Moffat retconned the Doctor running away from Gallifrey because of that is a slap in the face to everybody that had worked on the show before him. It's just ridiculous. The reason why the Doctor’s character and backstory worked is that he was simply an ordinary old man that got bored one day and ran away to seek adventure. He was an anarchist and he could no longer tolerate playing it safe and adhere to all of the Time Lords’ rules, who were always very rigid and officious. The exact opposite of the Doctor, which is why there’s always been a natural conflict between them. Changing all of this to the Doctor being scared of some vague prophecy about a hybrid and running away to save his own skin feels forced and unnecessary. It fundamentally alters his character and his backstory in a way that is almost unforgivable. If there was a satisfying payoff to the Hybrid story it might not be so bad, but we got NOTHING. It all came down to stupid, theoretical bullshit! One other thing that bothers me about this episode is the random appearance of the Daleks and Cybermen. It’s just a bit of pointless fan service that Moffat uses to artificially inject this episode with a bit of tension and drama because it was obvious he didn’t actually know what to do once he brought Clara back into the story. It’s padding of the worst kind because, like the aforementioned cuts between the Café and Gallifrey, it exposes the fact that this episode is devoid of a fully developed plot. The 12th Doctor was also completely out of character in this episode. Since when was the Doctor so selfish? Why was he willing to kill the general in cold blood? The excuse that death is Time Lord for man flu won’t cut. Especially because it directly contradicts what the 10th Doctor said in ‘The End of Time’. I mean, the general stood by his side against Rassilon and was doing everything to try and help the Doctor, but he just kills him without any justifiable reason to achieve his goals? Why was the Doctor willing to put all of time and reality in danger, break all his own rules, which he had lived by for 2000 thousand years for the sake of one person? Because Clara's so SPECIAL!! So were Adric, Donna, Amy and Rory! Clara’s importance to the Doctor and the shows narrative has been overblown from the start. First she spread herself across his entire time stream in ‘The Name of the Doctor’ and somehow, without any explanation, turned every single one of his defeats into victories. Then she comforted the Doctor as a child and taught him his life’s philosophy and now she becomes the reason why he breaks all the rules he had ever lived by. The problem with all of this is that none of it ever had any sufficient build up and so, never felt earned. It felt forced and came across as Moffat forcing us to accept Clara as the Doctor’s ultimate companion.
@icantthinkofagoodusername4575
@icantthinkofagoodusername4575 3 года назад
In The very first episode The First Doctor said him and Susan were exiled from their own planet and have been trying to get back there but a few years later it was said he stole a Tardis and ran away. Doctor Who is always retconning itself.
@Mrazmatmahmood
@Mrazmatmahmood 3 года назад
@@icantthinkofagoodusername4575 Um, the reason why the Doctor was exiled was because he stole a TARDIS and ran away. So I'm not sure what point you're trying to make? I will admit though, it is true that Doctor Who is always retconnning itself. There's a way to do it though. The best writers change the canon, but still make the changes make sense and fit with what came before. The problem is with retcons like this where it's not just damaging to the canon, it damages the Doctor's character.
@Hanmacx
@Hanmacx 3 года назад
The general thing was just a way to rub a "women are better than men" scene
@BulbasaurRepresent
@BulbasaurRepresent 2 года назад
@@Hanmacx Not sure how you got to that conclusion. Moffat said he specifically wanted a black woman because "some people won't ever accept it can happen without it happening on screen" which is perfectly reasonable to me.
@Hanmacx
@Hanmacx 2 года назад
@@BulbasaurRepresent I don't have a problem with it being a black woman The problem is that the first thing she said was sexist
@iain9757
@iain9757 3 года назад
It wasn’t 4.5 billion years know it was a time loop also what was the whole point ??? Clara surviving invalided the episode
@kayrayouvmir5766
@kayrayouvmir5766 3 года назад
Not really. The whole point was that the Doctor went too far for her and that him more or less punishing himself for not being able to protect her is NOT what Clara would have wanted. Not that I excuse the Timelords' actions - torturing someone isn't suddenly okay just because "they could have left anytime had they given up information"
@iain9757
@iain9757 3 года назад
Why are the Sisterhood of Karn allowed on Gallifrey??? Rasslion is an basically a GOD who would nuke Gallifrey out of existence if the Sisterhood even spat in the general direction of Gallifrey. Why did rasslion allow his mortal enemies on the planet.
@obiwanrussell1747
@obiwanrussell1747 3 года назад
The Sisterhood of Karn aren't enemies of the Time Lords, they are as far as we know their next door neighbours and oldest allies.
@Concreteowl
@Concreteowl 3 года назад
The Sisterhood are vital to the Time Lords. The also are owed debts.
@rangedlime
@rangedlime 3 года назад
After waiting for so long for the Doctor to return to Galifrey this episode was a shocking disappointment to me and still is. All the potential political drama cupped with the Doctors newly found vengeful wrath could have really been something special, but it was pushed aside to bring back to life a companion that died episodes earlier (who is incidentally my least liked companion) and undermine the prior episode. To me this episode is the most disappointing episode of Doctor Who ever. And that includes the classics. And I’ve seen them all
@adambesley4455
@adambesley4455 3 года назад
So there's a lot positive feelings for this finale in the comments. Sadly this episode still falls flat for me. I get what it was trying to do but it still feels like Steven Moffat was just jerking us around with the whole "Hybrid" storyline. Overall I've found season 9 the weakest season of modern-Who, I know people complain about seasons 11 and 12 but there's still plenty of good there mixed in with the not-so-good and the just bad. In season 9 the Ashieldr two-parter and Heaven Sent are the only high-points, the Dalek two-part and Face the Raven are average and everything else ranges from boring to frustrating.
@adambesley4455
@adambesley4455 3 года назад
@@provisionalhypothesis I barely saw any complaints about there not being an arc in season 11. Even though there was one albeit more a character based one than a heavy plot arc; like season 9 but in my opinion done better. Most complaints I saw centred around there being no classic villains, the new villains being boring (I kind of agree with that one), them not liking the 13th Doctor (to me she's mid-tier) or just complaining about the writing getting worse. If people complained about the absence of a myth arc or a mystery plotline like in Davies or Moffat’s eras then they must have been the fans who actually really liked those arcs.
@iain9757
@iain9757 3 года назад
This episode made me want to quit being a Doctor Who fan
@icantthinkofagoodusername4575
@icantthinkofagoodusername4575 3 года назад
What a ridiculous thing to say you can’t quit being a fan because you didn’t like an episode.
@xxXepicdeath53Xxx
@xxXepicdeath53Xxx 3 года назад
L
@icantthinkofagoodusername4575
@icantthinkofagoodusername4575 3 года назад
My question is why didn’t you quit being a fan when RTD left you clearly hated The Entirely of The Moffat Era
@Zomdra
@Zomdra 3 года назад
@@icantthinkofagoodusername4575 Wha...that...that's _exactly_ what causes someone to stop being a fan of something! If you stop thinking something is good then you'll probably consider not being a fan any more.
@Zomdra
@Zomdra 3 года назад
@@icantthinkofagoodusername4575 As another Moffat era hater I can give you my answer to that. The truth is, after 4 series and 5 years of being a huge fan during the RTD era, it took a long while, several years and series in fact, for me to fully accept and realise that I genuinely hated the Moffat era. I kept telling myself that my lack of enjoyment was just me being unfair to the retooled show and I needed to give it more of a chance, I tried very hard to engage with the show, I rewatched each series many times but as time went on I understood that I just plain didn't like the show any more. The reason I kept watching was I suppose just in the desperate hope that things would improve, which did pay off somewhat since I think Moffat's last series is the best one he ever did (I still don't _love_ it but it's easily the one I have the fewest problems with).
@AdamPurcell
@AdamPurcell 3 года назад
Ding Dong! The Witch is dead. Which old Witch? The orange Witch! With two (or is it three?) perfectly good exits for Clara undone for zero story reason (just Coleman constantly changing her mind about leaving) we now get her effectively immortal and running around in her own TARDIS, with her companion Me. She's become the Doctor, negating all of the foreshadowing that was built up over the past two seasons. No real closure and no pathos. For me it's the weakest companion exit of New Who by far. Did Moffat bottle it? I don't understand what he was trying to achieve. Perhaps extract her like that but give us a heartfelt goodbye as she chooses to face the raven again, rejecting the Doctor's childish attempts to save her. Perhaps a bit redundant as after the episode before last but better than a hollow happier ever after ending. I was not impressed, sadly.
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