There also is that bit where the fourth doctor actor shows up as the museum caretaker, who is in fact the same doctor, as he tells his younger self “sometimes you visit the old favorites”
Yeah I never really got how the curator was even there in the first place, the doctor knew he was on his last regeneration, in the next episode 'The Time of the Doctor', he is about to die of old age because he's on his last regeneration, until Clara persuades the Timelords to grant him another regeneration cycle. So, why didn't the doctor question the fact of the Curator even existing in his future timeline??? And then don't even get me started on the Timeless child BS 🤣🤣
@@RicStorm616it's pretty well established, now, that The Doctor can't always remember, or think about experiences involving their future selves, when those thoughts might cause a paradox. It's also kind of obvious that they had no way to know that The Curator even was a true future self, and not any of a wide spectrum of possible fakes, cons, parallels, or other anomalies that might seem similar. And the Timeless Child reveal actually explains some past discrepancies, restores the mystery of the character, and expands the scope of the show. You might want to get used to it, as Davies has essentially made it clear that he likes it.
And that incarnation then regenerates into an incarnation played by 6th doctor actor Colin Baker (who also plays an unbound 5th doctor, after the 4th doctor actually went through with wiping out the daleks in genesis and is killed along with Harry and Sarah Jane), this incarnation is creatively called the curator 2.
Also interesting to note that Peter Capaldi _did_ feature in a Tenth Doctor episode as a human character. When the Doctor takes Peter Capaldi’s face, the show addresses the reason as being a constant reminder of the man the Doctor wants to be, which was a key theme throughout Thirteen’s storyline. Obviously I’m unsure if this will be relevant to the 60th, but this is an excellent and succinct recap nonetheless!
I can't recall the Brigadier ever travelling in the TARDIS! I've spent the last 15-16 months watching the entirety of classic and modern Doctor Who. Every episode of every serial from 1963-1989. The 1996 TV movie. Most all of the Eighth Doctor audio adventures. And every episode from 2005-2022. The only instance I CAN recall of the Brig and the TARDIS is in the tenth anniversary serial The Three Doctors. But he declined to travel when offered by the Third Doctor.
@jarrodnewman2013 There was also Mawdryn Undead and Five Doctors with the 5th Doctor, Peter Divison. I believe he was just dropped off in his regular, however.
Wilf is probably my most favorite character in all of Dr. Who, I'm a law enforcement officer and security contractor and have seen combat and have been shot twice but I cried when Wilf died.
It's going to be interesting how they approach the 14th Doctor not being the same as the 10th Doctor. They've been through quite a bit as the 11th, 12th, and 13th Doctors so they've changed as a person, even if they remember who they were before each regeneration.
The Doctor and Donna’s plot has been absolutely incredible so far. I remember the heartbreak I felt at the Doctor wiping her memories, and my jaw hitting the floor when Wilf knocked. I have a strong attachment to Rose and the Doctor, but Donna had some of the best stories IMO
I somehow want them to do a "previously on" again but maybe just a short quick one with William Hartnell saying "There will be other meeting at another time" and Tom Baker saying "You might find yourself revisiting a few but just the old favourites"
Are we not going to mention Bernard Cribbins met the Doctor in the 1966 cinematic movie 'Daleks Invasion Earth 2150 AD' with Peter Cushing as the Doctor?
Brilliant synopsis and excellent way of reminding me how insane this show really is, lol. You just go blindly along accepting Doctor Who's craziness without question UNTIL you try to actually put it into words and rediscover how bizarre and wonderful it is!
So if the Time Lords got their regenerating ability from The Doctor. Then Donna received Time Lord regeneration energy during the Meta crisis, but her body couldn't handle the mental strain. But at that time, The Doctor wasn't aware of the whole Timeless Child stuff. So my question is: does The Doctor's evaluation of Donna's situation actually have merit? Or was he operating on insufficient data, and will there wind up being a way to allow her to survive internalizing that energy?
You know until watching this recap I had completely forgotten about particles that Donna was fed leading up to her original wedding. What if those somehow turn out to be the key to saving her she's been soaking in them for years now.
The Racnos Empress did draw the Huon particles out of Donna (and Lance) in The Runaway Bride, tho, to feed her children (and then was about to throw the two into the pit as well as a meat snack, with Lance falling in and Donna being saved by the Doctor). She was only dosed by Lance having given her spiked coffee. No soaking and she's been drained of the particles a long time ago (it's unlikely the Empress would have left anything in Donna when she needed the particles to resurrect her kin).
Doctor: The last time, with Martha, it got complicated. And that was all my fault. I just want a mate. Donna: You just want to mate? Doctor: I just want *a* mate! Donna: You're not matin' with me Sunshine! Doctor: A mate! I want *a* mate! Donna: Well, just as well, because I'm not having any of that nonsense! I mean, you're just a long streak of nothing, y'know, alien nothing! For those of us in the US and elsewhere, *a* mate = a friend. Not someone you're trying to have offspring with.
@@marvelljones72 thank you for getting the lines, I wanted to explain in more detail but didn't want to sound like a 40 year old Karen with nothing better to do 😅
@@marvelljones72 I misremembered the pronouns on the quote, but otherwise I knew what mate meant, it was just a funny reference to that scene. Thank you anyway though! And if I remember correctly, I think Thirteen makes a reference to this situation, to her fam not being her mates or something.
Here in the U.S., the Anniversary Special with David is the ONLY reason anyone would ever subscribe to Disney+. I bet their subscription numbers soar in late November, then plummet in January. I even bit the bullet and paid extra not to see any ads. I’m not going to wait this long to see my favorite Doctor only to be interrupted by a breakfast cereal commercial. Thanks so much for this recap. Really helps.
Thank you for this Ellie, because I thought I forgot everything important leading up to the 60th anniversary, but I remembered that Who Culture can help me remember what I forgot.
Thank you for this recap. I couldn’t get into Doctor Who until I saw they drop an episode of Neil Patrick Harris as the toy maker and it was available on Disney Plus. I really like Ncuti Gatwa. He has this presence about him. ❤❤ I would like to see new episode but I don’t have the BBC.
Still can't get over how episode with The Curator was a foreshadowing for the repeat face of David Tennant. One of the best episodes in my opinion besides the Van Gogh one.
I’d really enjoy if the nod to the timeless child that Russell has mentioned in interviews revolves around Donna. Like the doctor being able to use the knowledge of Tecteun (spelling?) to save her from death while keeping her time lord/human mind. Hope is a dangerous thing with RTD but it’d be fun to think he’d do that. He likely won’t 😅
@@marvelljones72I would prefer that, as I don't want them to undo her exit, nu who has almost no stakes and undoing the only actual companion death (no Clara and Bill don't count, they're literally immortal) just makes the situation worse.
Great video Ellie and Who Culture! Also I loved the children in need scene, the kaled davros was genius and the 14th doctor was brilliant! So excited for the 60th anniversary specials, russell t davies is amazing! 😊😊
Overall I'm excited about the 14th doctor. the one thing I wish would happen, but probably won't happen, is the 14th doctor meeting river song. it would explain her comments in the library about him looking young.
3:20 --- Of course there was a good reason why Donna Noble materialized on the Tardis. she was enriched with atron energy and was attracted to the tardis. a kind of temporal magnetism.
I just made homemade jelly babies and stored them in the fridge till this special, and forget popcorn! i'm having fish sticks and custard... It's really not that bad, I find it similar to french fries amd shakes 😋🔷️🩷 -Adam
Actually Bernard Cribbins also met the first Dr back in 1966 when he was a young policeman in London, going uder the name of Tom Campbell, in the film "Dalek's Invaion of Earth 2150"!!!! Such a pith that they did not find a way to weave that into the story line - that would certainly continue the "theme of destiny & fates being intertwinned!!!!" 🙂
I think you guys are skipping over a big obvious reason for Tennant returning. It's likely similar to the reason Capaldi existed. Something is telling him something through his physical form. Something he needs to remember or something he needs to do. My guess is that something is likely requiring him to reabsorb the lost energy from Donna.
Ive never watched an episode of Dr. Who but RU-vid has recommended Dr. Who videos to me for the past 8 or so years. Im honestly suprised how much of the story i apparently knew just based on that. Took until the toymaker stuff for it to be new info for me
If being conceived and gestated on the TARDIS turned Melody Pond into a Time Lady, what affect has Donna's meta crisis energy had on her daughter, I wonder?
I think you misunderstand that a little. The Tardis was able to change Melody's DNA because she was still an unfermented child there - and Amy became pregnant in the Tardis. But Donna was already a grown woman and the regeneration energy did not change Donna's DNA. So she can't pass this on to her daughter.
@@schmabi9625 Definitely possible that I misunderstand it. Then again with Doctor Who, explanations get retconned and re-explained all the time, so only time can tell.
Regarding the timeless child arc, could the other dimension the doctor comes from be just another time? I have this head canon idea that the doctor is a 'human being' from an extremely distant future, and is somehow a 'collection of lives' made from all the experiences/stories they had travelling in the Tardis, this would be why the doctor regenerates, has slightly different quirks to their personality. So they are sent back to be found, and that completes the time loop. (I will say, that it was mentioned in the video here that humans are based on timelords or something, so perhaps I am missing a piece of Doctor Who lore). Anyway, VERY excited for the 60th!
I would prefer if the Timeless Child story was just made up by Rassillon because he couldn't kill the Doctor who was actually The Other and tried to stop Rassilon from taking over the Time Lord race as a Dictator. So when Rassilon tried The Other (or as we call it now The Doctor) was wounded and lost his memories because of a serious almost death and after that he always just got away from Rassilon. The same way he lost his memories before actually becoming the first Doctor (maybe another assassination attempt from Rassilon?). So Rassilon was mad and made up this story to cover his ass since the 3 of them came up with the regeneration together which guaranteed the 3 of them with endless times of doing it but Rassilon gave it on with the 13 as border for the others. And while doing so tried to get rid of the other two. And we know the rest.
Brilliant - thanks :) I've started watching the 60th specials with my son who is now of an appropriate age to watch DW. My own viewing had long lapsed, so this is a super handy essential catch-up! The only thing I don't get and don't like is the timeless child thingy? That just feels like a silly distraction and unnecessary retcon (a new showrunner trying to make their name or leave a legacy?). Anyway, I'm going ignore that as you more or less have :) On with the show!
last night i just finished my month and a half long rebinge of NuWho to get ready for the 60th and this is the first youtube video i see this morning. 😂😂
Or you know you could just watch the 60th anniversary ep cause at the start they already did mostly a catch up then sure does leave up moments but overall the bits it reminded you of is all you do need to remember for the 60 anniversary ep anyways.
Help. I live in the US. I signed up for Disney Plus. There is no Doctor Who anywhere on it's website. I am talking to support and they have no idea if Doctor Who is on Disney Plus or not. Thi is so confusing and frustrating. They are telling me to wait to see if it airs and if it doesn't to contact them back to open a ticket. This Disney Plus thing feels scammy! Help.
That makes no sense at all. Preview pages with the trailers, interviews, cast, descriptions all happen on Disney Plus and every other streaming service.@@DrWhoFanJ
Excited for the 60thy. Really intrigued by Tennant's return. Everything is definitely not as it seems. The regeneration from 13 changes the clothes too. Normally they regenerate keeping the clothes of the previous doctor.
-- on an aside -- For those in the States who may not have heard yet, the TUBI streaming channel just picked up ALL Classic Doctor Who. Fantastic, and Would you like a Jelly-Baby?!
@@_MyNameIsAJ_ ish, tenth regenerated into himself, so effectively really 11th and John hurt is really the 8th, so tenth was 11th, then 12th and now 16th
@Crit1cal At least Disney+ doesn't wait until the whole season has aired on tv before putting it on their streaming channel like some other channels do. 8 days and counting.
Hmm, there was an Observation Outpost Rose in the first ep of season 13, which seems to be a bit too obvious for an oversight. Now Donna's daughter is called Rose too? We might be getting Bad Wolf'd again.
I Love how she says that the First Doctor will always be William Hartnell, and that every generation before him, including Jo Martin "retcons" timeless child nonsense.
And just like that, I've entered the fictional part of my life where I'm piecing together what is considered Canon to me. "Timeless child" is a cool mysterious concept that explains the genesis of the TimeLords, yet they make the child appear as a female first..THEN say Hartnell was the Doctor... Making the Doctor a Title name and no longer a person name.. Really glad Russel T Davis has returned in order to bring back what made Doctor Who great before "timeless child" nonsnse story..
13s first 2 seasons could easily be skipped. I would encourage you to watch the flux season, and her final special. If Chibnal wrote all his episodes like the flux and the power of the doctor his run would have been genuinely great.
The toymaker has not been seen ON SCREEN since the 60's hes bloody everywhere else in the cannon tho lol Also I dunno how I feel about a dead actor being on screen......
I think his last line before regeneration has something to do with why he is back. The whole "I don't want to go" thing that left lots of us fans a little angry. I do hope the line is worked into his reappearance somehow!
Ive never understood why people were angry about that. All I felt was heartbroken, both for the Doctor and for David since it was obvious that was how David himself felt. I just wanted to hug 10 and tell him it was going to be ok. Why did that make people angry?
My god could it be Journey's End/The Stolen Earth had the walls between realities breaking down, it allowed Rose out, could it have let out The Toymaker who needed the time to set up the events of the 60th anniversary and from that Dalek Kahn predicted the Tri-Fold Man, we assumed the Doctor-Donna was the 3rd but what if the 14th Doctor completes the Tri-Fold Man prophecy
So is the 60th anniversary just going to be one episode? And is it only available on Disney plus? I believe last time I watched doctor who it was on hbo max
My first foray into Doctor Who was that New Year movie with the 8th Doctor but Christopher Eccleston was the first series I saw and I enjoyed every episode excluding the first time we saw the Oods as those were terrifying with their red eyes, I even had a Doctor Who calendar and the Oods I believe at that time was for August and the image was their red eye look, absolutely scared me as a kid but the one creature that scared me when I was younger and still does to this day was the Weeping Angels and for a time, I was scared of every statue as my mind was thinking what if one of these statues is a Weeping Angel or something else that could come alive and end me Speaking of the moment the 10th Doctor is wondering why he and Wilf keep bumping into each other might have started way before the 10th Doctor's time as wasn't there a very old episode in the years before the revival that a past Doctor met a young Wilf in a war which explains the salute he gives the Doctor which could also explain the Christmas Episode with Kylie, Wilf then met this version of the Doctor for the first time, unbeknownst to him is a later reincarnation of the Doctor he first met in one of the World Wars. Even though I've not seen the first 60th Anniversary episode, I think Ncuti Gatwa will, and this is a total guess on my end, I think he'll likely appear at the end of the 3rd 60th Anniversary special in the lead up to this year's Christmas special which will have Ncuti Gatwa fully take on the role of the 15th Doctor before the first series of his Doctor starting next year but that's just my guess on how or when Tennant's replacement will turn up to take over as the 15th Doctor
Now, we have Classic Who, NuWho, and NuNuWho after the 60th specials, each one starting from series number 1... let the confusion reign! ;-P Just start with "The Unearthly Child" (the very first episode), and binge your ass off! You do get a decade or so gap between Classic Who and NuWho, so, you get a bathroom break...
