Roger Delgado was immense, back when Dr Who was Dr Who. The intensity he brought to the role made The Master as a character and I think he's been even harder to replace than the people who've played the Doctor.
fjvideo yeah that’s hardly a reason by itself. Which master is the best is always opinion, but Missy’s character brought the insanity, evil, fun, genius, and manipulation of the master. At the very least Gomez played the role as well as Simm’s master (it’s best to compare new who to new who). Her being a woman hardly changed the character. I can see how The move for a redemption arc in series 10 would be controversial, but at the end of the day that’s was the writers choice. Still has nothing to do with the master being female. Plus I can believe that after finally being cured of the drumming and centuries of being at odds with the Doctor, the Master would be willingly to stand with him. If you’ve seen all of Missy’s performances and scenes and thought “no” then.... okay weird, but that’s your choice and preference. If you literally just saw the Master’s a girl and went “ew! The SJWs are ruining everything. Ugh.” Then that’s pathetic. I’m sorry, but you really don’t have much room to hate something that you don’t bother even looking at beyond face value. I dislike the 13th doctor. Not because she’s a woman, but because the writing is go awful, and her character is inconsistent and empty when it’s not a 1d plot advancer. As far as the acting goes, I really can’t tell. I’d need to see Jodie with a good script for the doctor. So far however she doesn’t seem to bring the confidence and power to the role that I’ve come to expect (Missy however, did).
@@vullord666 Missy was an utter joke. To start with her "great character arc" was Moffhack recycling the same horny fantasy he'd done three times with River Song, Tasha Lame and his godawful version of Irene Adler. Second yes, Missy was pandering to the SJWs. They viciously slandered Moffat as a sexist and so he caved. It's exactly the same as in the 70s when Mary Whitehouse slandered the show as being too violent and the Beeb caved and fired Hinchcliff. Difference is you are willing to trash the Mary Whitehouse types because they are wrinkly old conservatives, but when it's the SJWs people are as silent as ghosts out of fear of being smeared as sexist. It's cowardly and hypocritcal. Third Missy didn't capture ANY aspects fo the Masters character. You're full of shit if you think "she channelled Delgado" I don't recall Delgado French kissing Pertwee or prancing around like an oversexed Disney character.
Roger Delgado was utterly superb as The Master. He had a tremendous screen presence; he reminds of two other actors who also have tremendous screen presence, Terence Stamp and Sean Connery. It was a great loss hat he died at 55.
I love how the doctor smiled a little and looked away when the master said "doctor, what a pleasant surprise" I usually don´t ship people, but it´s too obvious.
The Master wants freedom in exactly the same way as the Doctor, they're almost the same person as noted by the 3rd Doctor, the Master just happens play the villain. Lets not forget the whole of time lord society shunned him for the noise in his head and dismissed him as insane, just as they dismissed the Doctor as mad. I think old Who does a much better job of portraying their friendship and current relationships as well as why they abandoned Gallifrey to begin with. If I ever write any Who it'll be a team up between the two-no tricks, double crosses. Just two men, a great war, and their increasingly different responses to the war. The Master talks to talk, uses the Omega arsenal and heavenly paradigm but runs in fear. The Doctor on the other hand refrains from such action, until the Master hints to him that "the heavenly paradigm wasn't the only unused weapon in the arsenal," before he runs away. The Doctor is furious, he feels betrayed and tries and to find the master only to realize this must have been how the master felt when doctor left Gallifrey without so much as a goodbye. The last scene is the War Doctor staring down at the Moment in quiet contemplation as alarms blare and both Daleks and Time Lords arrive and attempt to stop him. Flash forward to the present, Missy and the 12th Doctor are sitting in a classy restaurant and they're clearly having a blast, which clearly unnerves Clara. Missy tells the Doctor she'd had a wonderful birthday, and that it was nice to be themselves again, but tomorrow wasn't her birthday and hed have to say something nice. 12 looks pissed but he stays his anger "You want nice? How about this, how about happy birthday." Missy blushes and tears up as the Doctor says softly "Did you really think I didn't remember? Do you really think I don't care?" In a shaky voice Missy says, I want to find my daughter Doctor. Don't you ..wanna find yours? Shes not dead. Your daughter is alive doctor and so is mine Credits roll Next episode has them meet their daughters BUT, they're both Dalek puppets, the Doctor and Missy's eyes meet. I leave it to your imaginations what happens next!
@@W0LV1E45 I like Anthony Ainley, but that was kind of the problem. He just seemed like too likable of a guy, that I never found him quite as convincing as a villain. He was still good though, but not as good as Delgado.
Roger Delgardo and Anthony Ainley's Masters shared a similar personality and clothing style. Much like the early doctors did. There was a sense of continuity before and after a regeneration. I think much of that has been lost in the more recent series.
Zero Ninety I always hated the drums thing. I remember one of the things Beevers said about the character in one of the Big Finish audios he was in is that one of the fun and interesting things about the Master is that there is no real reason for why he is evil, he just sort of revels in the misery he causes others. I like the Master as a villain because, yeah, some people are just horrible and given a time machine and boundless knowledge of the universe, some people would get a bit of a god complex and abuse that power.
We love to play with the fire, don't we? The more dangerous something is the more we want it. The Master really knows how to use our own deep desires and curiosity against us. He's absolutely reckless, incredible clever and "charming " evil. But that is it what makes him so irresistible to us, right? 😉 What do you think?
The Master as the Dr,s arch-enemy was at his best when he was played by Roger Delgado and Roger created a Master that cannot ever really be recreated in the same way in another science fiction series Blake,s Seven Jacqueline Pearce who played arch enemy and series main villain Servalan was awesome and Jacqueline like Roger created a Servalan who nevr really can be recreated in any shape or form
An excellent villain, I always thought, probably the best of the human-looking opponents as opposed to Things like the Daleks. Like the whole of Doctor Who, the Master had a sense of humour rarely if ever seen on, for instance, 'Star Trek'. This little documentary's rather fun, too. I'm a little surprised though someone didn't add as the police often do with dangerous criminals (especially recalling his hypnotic powers), 'If you see this man on no account approach him, but dial 999 immediately'! And the Doctor Who production team were extraordinarily lucky in finding Anthony Ainley to replace Robert Delgado who I believe died in a road accident in Turkey. Who is the mini-documentary's presenter?
3:29 He's referring to Sir Galahad by: Alfred Lord Tennyson My good blade carves the casques of men, My tough lance thrusteth sure, *My strength is as the strength of ten, Because my heart is pure.* The shattering trumpet shrilleth high, The hard brands shiver on the steel, The splinter'd spear-shafts crack and fly, The horse and rider reel: They reel, they roll in clanging lists, And when the tide of combat stands, Perfume and flowers fall in showers, That lightly rain from ladies' hands. How sweet are looks that ladies bend On whom their favours fall! For them I battle till the end, To save from shame and thrall: But all my heart is drawn above, My knees are bow'd in crypt and shrine: I never felt the kiss of love, Nor maiden's hand in mine. More bounteous aspects on me beam, Me mightier transports move and thrill; So keep I fair thro' faith and prayer A virgin heart in work and will. When down the stormy crescent goes, A light before me swims, Between dark stems the forest glows, I hear a noise of hymns: Then by some secret shrine I ride; I hear a voice but none are there; The stalls are void, the doors are wide, The tapers burning fair. Fair gleams the snowy altar-cloth, The silver vessels sparkle clean, The shrill bell rings, the censer swings, And solemn chaunts resound between. Sometime on lonely mountain-meres I find a magic bark; I leap on board: no helmsman steers: I float till all is dark. A gentle sound, an awful light! Three angels bear the holy Grail: With folded feet, in stoles of white, On sleeping wings they sail. Ah, blessed vision! blood of God! My spirit beats her mortal bars, As down dark tides the glory slides, And star-like mingles with the stars. When on my goodly charger borne Thro' dreaming towns I go, The cock crows ere the Christmas morn, The streets are dumb with snow. The tempest crackles on the leads, And, ringing, springs from brand and mail; But o'er the dark a glory spreads, And gilds the driving hail. I leave the plain, I climb the height; No branchy thicket shelter yields; But blessed forms in whistling storms Fly o'er waste fens and windy fields. A maiden knight--to me is given Such hope, I know not fear; I yearn to breathe the airs of heaven That often meet me here. I muse on joy that will not cease, Pure spaces clothed in living beams, Pure lilies of eternal peace, Whose odours haunt my dreams; And, stricken by an angel's hand, This mortal armour that I wear, This weight and size, this heart and eyes, Are touch'd, are turn'd to finest air. The clouds are broken in the sky, And thro' the mountain-walls A rolling organ-harmony Swells up, and shakes and falls. Then move the trees, the copses nod, Wings flutter, voices hover clear: "O just and faithful knight of God! Ride on! the prize is near." So pass I hostel, hall, and grange; By bridge and ford, by park and pale, All-arm'd I ride, whate'er betide, Until I find the holy Grail.
The Master is a great character,shame in the new Who,the Actor feels the right to be totally OTT . You can't beat Delgado,Ant Ainley was very good too.
If you are a big fan of the late, great and much missed Roger Delgado and have not seen it, then check out the film 'Sea Fury' from 1958. Along with Roger Delgado, cast includes legendary Victor MacLaglen (in his final film), Stanley Baker, Robert Shaw, Luciana Paluzzi (long before she was a Bond villainess in 'Thunderball'), Barry Foster, Richard Pearson, Rupert Davies, Francis de Woolf and Gregoire Aslan.
Seeing as this is a time and space travel show I wish they would do something with his previous regeneration. We were told when he appeared on the show originally that he was on his last regeneration, then he cheated and found a way to extend his life but nothing has been done with his previous incarnations. It would be fun to see them. :)
It's kinda funny how they got some basic info wrong, The crispy master is still roger delegado's master, just all decayed, and the stolen body isn't a regeneration either
I know the actress Ingrid Pitt, who played Queen Galliea in Time Monster was considered for the part of arch-enemy and arch-villain Servalan in Blakes Seven I am sure Ingrid could have played the main villain Servalan in B7 really well but she would not have been anywhere near as awesome or as definitive as Jacqueline Pearce was as arch-enemy Servalan .I also say Roger Delgado, Jacqueline Pearce, Paul Darrow, Michael Keating, Stephen Greif, David McCallum and joanna Lumley have all created parts that really cannot ever be recreated in tens of billions of years.
I have still got the VHS box set of Trial of a Time Lord and also the DVD and Blu-Ray box sets as well and they are awesome Trial of a Time Lord was sadly the final end of Colin Baker,s tenure as the Sixth Dr and he never got the chance to develop and play the 6th Dr the way he wanted to play the role and also Colin had intended to play the Dr as long as Tom had done either 7 years or possibly even longer given the chance but because Michael Grade head of BBC1 did not like Colin Baker as Dr Who and had poor Colin removed from playing the Dr so Colin Baker could not go on in the role of the 6th Dr beyond season 23 Trial of a Time Lord and also had Colin been able to continue as the Dr into season 24 to 26 wouldthe series have been continued into the dreaded nineteen Nineties or would Dr Who have still been axed until 2005 who knows
I did think Geoffrey Beavers' "decayed Master" was a very good portrayal of the character. Ainley really came good in "Survival", as the business suit - and it being awhile since we had seen him, as well as a more measured performance.
RIP Shaw Taylor. The presenter of ITV's Police 5, which ran for 30 years, has died. www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-hampshire-31954540 Shaw Taylor pioneered the use of the public to help solve crimes by contacting the programme, which he fronted from its launch in 1962.
I really don't think that John Simm Master si bad, I just think that he matched very well David Tennant Doctor: young, bouncing, human. In fact their scenes together were very well. However, John Simm Master hadn't the same alchemy with Peter Capaldi Doctor, in fact I really didin't like them in Enough Time and Space (even if this version of the Master hadn't so much to do here). Michelle Gomez Master was good, she was a hell of an actress, but sometimes I just don't feel her like the proper Master, but like a different character. I don't think that the Master will return soon as a villain (because, as Missy, he was present for three seasons in a row), but if it'll be, I would a Roger Delgato-type of Master (rigid, elegant, charming, a bit old) with Jodie Whittaker Doctor (she seems to be young, enthusiastic, goofy, loonatic). I think it could be a strange and interesting balance .
@sirtinycreep it depends on your outlook, several incarnations of the doctor have not exactly been up to par but people enjoyed them, the current master is allot more excentric phycotic than the older more minyacle masters. i enjoyed them
The Master used to be the stuff of nightmares - a true blackhearted villain, evil and charming in equal measure. Roger Delgado was - and will forever be - the MASTER. Now, sadly, the lefty lunacy that pervades the Biased Broadcasting Corporation has turned him into a her and destroyed one of the great characters of British TV. R.I.P.
@@waltonsimons12 No, you can tell he's the one who has watched Dr who. He's the one making sense. Missy may be a good character in her own right but she is NOT the Master. She's an insult to the character and the memory of Roger Delgado.
@@waltonsimons12 You are either delusional or simply stupid if you think Gomez's portrayal "rivals" Delgado in any capacity. I'm not going to call her a bad actress, but the material she was given to work with was crap and "Missy" is nothing more than a repulsive slap in the face to Delgado's legacy.
@rojblake82 thanks for the question! thats really a tough one, I had to do some research as I'm not quite as up to speed with Blake's Seven as I am with Dr Who, but I believe that whilst the master has obvious advantages it would still be quite a close match!
He is worse than the dalek and cyberman with their we obey. He isn't as bad as the silence who in the end ended themselves. But lastly... Why did he lose that ability?
'The Master' as a character should have been retired with the untimely death of Roger Delgado. Writers could easily have come up with another master criminal, the Doctor wasn't short of them.
I agree I also think Had Roger Delgado been alive to appear in Jon Pertwee's finale which was intended to be a final showdown between dr 3 and the Master who was to be killed off in a blaze of glory and go out with a bang and had that been the case I thinkit would have been best to retire the Master from Dr Who and create new Time Lord villains instead even the Valeyard and the Rani were more interesting villains than the Master who in the 80s was terribly overused and wasted in some stories
