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Dodge Magnum (USA/Canada) vs. Chrysler 300C Touring (Europe/Australia) 

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Hey guys, in today's video I am comparing the 2 Mopar Wagons, the Dodge Magnum which was available in North America, and the Chrysler 300C Touring, which was available overseas in Europe, Australia, and other places. This video goes in-depth on the specs, history, and cancellation of both wagons. They were unique, fun, and powerful, but unfortunately by 2010, they were both cancelled. Which wagon do you think was better?
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1. Chrysler 300C Touring History, Specs, & Cancellation (2005-2010): 00:35
2. Dodge Magnum History, Specs, & Cancellation (2005-2008): 06:52
3. Comparison of Both: 10:55
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Комментарии : 159   
@kxngearner698
@kxngearner698 5 лет назад
I saw a R/T magnum the other day they still look great
@LamontBoucherville
@LamontBoucherville 4 года назад
I agree
@kirkbourne100
@kirkbourne100 Год назад
I have one.. love it
@joelalvarez1470
@joelalvarez1470 5 лет назад
Challenger Hellcat Charger Hellcat Cherokee Trackhawk Durango SRT Magnum Hellwagon Makes perfect sense to me
@moparfam300c
@moparfam300c 5 лет назад
Chrysler 300 SRT Hellcat
@tysonpalma_
@tysonpalma_ 5 лет назад
hellcat widebody magnum??
@k.j.simmonsjr.4743
@k.j.simmonsjr.4743 5 лет назад
I shall now make a truly Frankenstein creation from you 3 : Durango SRT frame Jeep's Trackhawk suspension Challenger's AWD Charger's Elephnt motor Chrysler's 300 top level interior Latest Widebody from FSA combined with a Grand Cherokee body Final year Viper wheels And finally.... A color change wrap that adapts with the weather Ohhh...how I love my creation!!
@Zynet_Eseled
@Zynet_Eseled 3 года назад
Magnum Hauler Also makes sense
@LS1007
@LS1007 5 лет назад
I like the Magnum better because it’s more muscular and sportier. Like I said in the previous video, I wish they would bring it back with the Hellcat engine and call it the “Hellwagon”! Thanks for the info! 👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸
@leroycolejr6336
@leroycolejr6336 5 лет назад
L S I could agree with you I miss my magnum
@redpilllife4life198
@redpilllife4life198 5 лет назад
I love my magnum srt I do wish they brought it back with that 6.4 sc motor, throw the charger hellcat front end on it bang perfection.
@bradwhite5884
@bradwhite5884 5 лет назад
Agreed and have a face lifted version with a similar face like the current Charger look and similar doors from the Charger too
@kb0x
@kb0x 5 лет назад
Me too.
@120BLACKWOLF
@120BLACKWOLF 4 года назад
Maybe throw the hellephant in the magnum 🤔
@Stew510
@Stew510 5 лет назад
Love my 06 Magum R/T! Bought it with 84500 miles on it a few months ago and the paint and leather is still in great condition!
@chantei1036
@chantei1036 3 года назад
I love my Magnum I have an 07 SRT and my kids do 2 its not a " Gangster or thugs" car its a fun sporty family car with an attitude lol... one of best cars made then
@JB-xp8xl
@JB-xp8xl 5 лет назад
Original owner of a 06 Magnum R/T, They were the most powerful production cars on the market for 30k or less.
@erickbriones2577
@erickbriones2577 5 лет назад
The matte black 300c is dope
@ALT3REDB3AST
@ALT3REDB3AST 5 лет назад
Wagons or Shooting Brakes get zero love or respect, yet people will calmor to buy a high riding wagon better known as an SUV.🙄
@k.j.simmonsjr.4743
@k.j.simmonsjr.4743 5 лет назад
That is not the correct name for these SUV'S. Unlike the real name you should be calling them - The Oversized Pavement Station Wagon!! Just like the Pavement Princess aka The Jeep! And slowly but soon enough.....the truck!! All you Guys can kiss that one goodbye as well!!!
@WolfWould
@WolfWould 5 лет назад
Dude congratulations on the channel growing! So stoked to watch small channels succeed! 🤘
@MrIzxndahouse
@MrIzxndahouse 5 лет назад
This is definitely a great channel. 👍
@FirstMetalHamster
@FirstMetalHamster 4 года назад
So sad they got cancelled, beefy wagons are very popular in my country. Own a 2005 300C wagon 5.7l myself. Great car, only downside is the low load limit.
@Dv087
@Dv087 5 лет назад
Love my Silver 2006 SRT8. My two sons still argue who will inherit the car. PS mine did consistent 13.1 in the quarter bone stock. Never could get to do a 12.99.
@MikeStigs
@MikeStigs 5 лет назад
They should bring it back. Great video tons of info.
@-POISON-
@-POISON- 5 лет назад
300C Touring easily. Probably the best looking wagon ever.
@RomanM803
@RomanM803 5 лет назад
P0IS0N I like your profile picture
@AlfredvanKuik
@AlfredvanKuik 5 лет назад
At least top 5! I'd consider trading mine in for a CTS-V wagon maybe.
@-POISON-
@-POISON- 5 лет назад
@@RomanM803 As I do yours.
@suhailns3688
@suhailns3688 5 лет назад
It is ended the best looking wagon ever.
@FirstMetalHamster
@FirstMetalHamster 4 года назад
Along with the CTS-V, one of the best looking modern wagons ever...
@baxthegreatest8620
@baxthegreatest8620 18 дней назад
In family we have 300c Turing Europe Chrysler 3.5 AWD and Dodge Magnum SXT 3.5 AWD. Both are awesome.
@evelkoloski
@evelkoloski 2 года назад
08 magnum, v6 awd. love it just picked it up... 70k km on it...
@papaike2
@papaike2 5 лет назад
I loved both of them.
@Maine76
@Maine76 5 лет назад
Def take the Magnum over the 300,new a guy yrs ago that had a Srt8 Mag and boy do i tell ya the burnouts in that thing were awesome,spun around nice being so long!!I say bring back a refreshed model but i know they won't,would love to make one into a Ute!!
@See_more....
@See_more.... Месяц назад
I love my 300 Estate. Not many here in the UK and it gets a lot of attention.
@robc8468
@robc8468 5 лет назад
The 300C wagon might have made it in the USA with AWD.
@FirstMetalHamster
@FirstMetalHamster 4 года назад
Especially since it didn't just offer the Diesel, but also thte 5.7 Hemi with AWD.
@kevinwong6588
@kevinwong6588 3 месяца назад
Despite the 300 marketed as a full size with 120" wheelbase, the Magnum/300 wagon only had 71.6 cubic feet cargo volume and 133.1 cubic feet interior volume, in the EPA midsize wagon class and barely larger than a K-car and smaller than a late 70s Aspen.
@richarddouglas744
@richarddouglas744 Год назад
I love the magnum looks plus I have a 2006 magnum se and I love it
@robertsnyder4963
@robertsnyder4963 5 лет назад
Magnum, definitely!
@kryskozlowski142
@kryskozlowski142 5 лет назад
Quick note, the 300 touring wagons were built in Austria and in fact very successful in Germany. I recall seeing a lot of the diesel versions as German drivers thought them to be a budget version of the e class. They got fairly heavy use in the taxi industry as well. The U.K. is a very poor reflection of the European car market, as tge French and German markets are much larger in size and more accepting of large diesel powered station wagons. From personal experience, the mag steyr cars suffer a lot of similar electronic and build quality problems as their US equivalents, like blend doors, heater switch failures, ecm and window switches going out early, and the infamous 2.7 v6 sludge issue
@reneantonio91
@reneantonio91 5 лет назад
I’m not sure if you made a video like this before but you should do your top 10 Chrysler & Chrysler related vehicles of the 90s ( so dodge, Eagle , Plymouth and some Mitsubishi vehicles too )
@bradwhite5884
@bradwhite5884 5 лет назад
I wish they continued making the Magnum and the 300c because I would love to see them to be juked up awesome performance, a face lifted version that are based on the face lifted Charger and 300 then they would get the Hellcat and Demon versions
@Ben-nn3oe
@Ben-nn3oe 5 лет назад
I think the 300 (sedan) would also look very nice, with the magnum facelift frontend :)
@moparfam300c
@moparfam300c 5 лет назад
The 300 and Magnum both have similar window designs in the rear!
@AlfredvanKuik
@AlfredvanKuik 5 лет назад
I love my 300C Touring CRD! It's reliable, quick, has lots of room, is decent on diesel and has road presence like no other for the money. Definitely prefer the 300 nose to the magnum but that's obviously a matter of taste. Over here in the Netherlands they're incredibly rare (especially the wagon) and I think I've seen about 3 or 4 others on the road in the past year.
@omarzowila
@omarzowila 5 месяцев назад
Bruh, that station wagon should’ve never been discontinued
@braeden6458
@braeden6458 5 лет назад
there is a black srt one that lives near by me looks great
@leavingasap843
@leavingasap843 3 месяца назад
Magnum has a better look IMO. Plus a own a 05 R/T that’s still looks and drives like new. Love love love my car
@hemijohn1983
@hemijohn1983 5 лет назад
Definitely a magnum!
@jeremywallace7982
@jeremywallace7982 5 лет назад
You should do a history of the dodge nitro video
@WolfWould
@WolfWould 5 лет назад
A Magnum in my town is pretty badass. I like those probably, but I prefer first gen LX since I have Daytonas.
@devontesnellen5663
@devontesnellen5663 6 месяцев назад
I’ve gotta magnum and have been considering swapping out the front end just bedside the 300 is more luxurious looking but I’m fine with either srt trim
@hsvcommodore4111
@hsvcommodore4111 5 лет назад
Ah, the good old days when chrysler was still in europe....
@bigbanks313
@bigbanks313 5 лет назад
Give me that last year SRT8 magnum !
@benitojr4332
@benitojr4332 5 лет назад
please make a clip on Jeep Liberty/ Dodge Nitro.
@Welcometofacsistube
@Welcometofacsistube 5 лет назад
Benito JR easy. Mercedes forced abominations
@DoshindeReus
@DoshindeReus 5 лет назад
Make a movie about the PT cruiser!
@nicholasfield6127
@nicholasfield6127 5 лет назад
Honestly I like the Magnum better. The classy 300 front end on the aggressive magnum rear end just doesn't match well to me. I loved my 05 but the interior wasn't that nice to touch. Looked good, but the seats were a little hard and everything you touched was just hard. No soft touch anything, not even the steering wheel on my top of the line RT. Had leather wrapped but still was hard
@HellcatMonkey
@HellcatMonkey 5 лет назад
The intro had no sound btw.
@razvandobos9759
@razvandobos9759 5 лет назад
Wish they had the Chrysler 300C Touring in the US!
@rodmacdonnell3498
@rodmacdonnell3498 Год назад
Definitely the Magnum. I h8 when people purposely bucher a magnum 2 make it look like a 300 touring wagon.
@idrk1989
@idrk1989 5 лет назад
Why not a video about the flops and the wins about the jeep liberty
@rodneysellers453
@rodneysellers453 2 года назад
I want a right hand drive version I have an o5 magnum r/t
@rileysmith9843
@rileysmith9843 4 года назад
I got my Magnum back. Now, I’m swapping out my Dodge parts for Chrysler appearance parts, and adding Chrysler wheels and interior parts.
@LamontBoucherville
@LamontBoucherville 4 года назад
Why
@rileysmith9843
@rileysmith9843 4 года назад
Because I want to make people think I have the only stock Chrysler 300 Touring wagon in North America.
@LamontBoucherville
@LamontBoucherville 4 года назад
@@rileysmith9843 I see. Good luck
@rileysmith9843
@rileysmith9843 4 года назад
Lamont Boucherville The project is finished in the span of 2 months.
@LamontBoucherville
@LamontBoucherville 4 года назад
@@rileysmith9843 post a video in 2 two months, so we can see
@VanquishMediaDE
@VanquishMediaDE 5 лет назад
The dodge challenger seats are very wide, I am 178CM and my weight is 61KG. Greetings from Poland.
@AbdAbd-xo3ge
@AbdAbd-xo3ge 5 лет назад
👍👍👍
@urfathersmelledofelderberr9498
How about battle of the sedans: Dodge Charger vs Chrysler 300 sedan?
@dontelindsey5846
@dontelindsey5846 5 лет назад
I'd take the 300
@kingrhun
@kingrhun 5 лет назад
I'm sure that battle had been done plenty
@thebraulioasis
@thebraulioasis 5 лет назад
Magnum's front better then 300
@coreybryant2415
@coreybryant2415 5 лет назад
Were can I get one from
@Welcometofacsistube
@Welcometofacsistube 5 лет назад
Corey Bryant they can be found. Internet. Look
@demarcorosas3850
@demarcorosas3850 5 лет назад
I say the magnum wins.
@RuFFRyDas87
@RuFFRyDas87 5 лет назад
Dude. Your new RT vid is overdue.
@dillonvossen1144
@dillonvossen1144 5 лет назад
300C Touring!
@ethan60645
@ethan60645 4 года назад
WHY did i see a 300 wagon parked in chicago? they’re not 25 years old and they didn’t get sold here? there was a magnum wagon down the block oddly enough so i know it wasn’t a magnum
@ModularIsl
@ModularIsl 5 лет назад
Id rather have one of those better built 300 tourings swapped right hand drive with an 08 magnum front end
@Tokio_Tsu
@Tokio_Tsu 10 месяцев назад
if you live in the us, just swap a 300 bumper and badges on a magnum
@yuh2634
@yuh2634 5 лет назад
I always thought the 300c touring was just some random dude changing the grill and headlights
@TheCoco7411
@TheCoco7411 5 лет назад
A lot of magnum owners are having fun with their magnums now days and swapping front ends
@danielarthur4224
@danielarthur4224 2 года назад
How you going to battle with the same car??? Different grills....
@Disobayish17708
@Disobayish17708 5 лет назад
Can someone please help me out . At 4:58 is the first time ive seen 3.0 CRD istead of Vsomethin or inline 4 or 6 . What does CRD mean ?
@andrewkennedy9704
@andrewkennedy9704 5 лет назад
Common Rail Diesel ?
@Disobayish17708
@Disobayish17708 5 лет назад
@@andrewkennedy9704 thanks
@AlfredvanKuik
@AlfredvanKuik 5 лет назад
Yeah, it's Common Rail Diesel and it's a Mercedes 3.0 V6 turbodiesel :) Google OM642 if you wanna know more about the engine!
@mattcrooke8321
@mattcrooke8321 5 лет назад
Hi Pistol C. The UK and Euro 300’s has the option of a Mercedes 3 litre V6 Common Rail Diesel engine. The model number is OM642, and was fitted to loads of Mercedes cars and Sprinter vans too.
@Zynet_Eseled
@Zynet_Eseled 3 года назад
MAGNUM. OBVIOUSLY
@peeschamp
@peeschamp 5 лет назад
Magnum .
@dmo0
@dmo0 2 года назад
Chrysler 💪👍
@altinogilson
@altinogilson 2 года назад
From the dislike of what they did with the magnum 🤦
@alexsaffamerica
@alexsaffamerica 3 года назад
1:34 Austria, not Australia.
@smartymarty1965
@smartymarty1965 5 лет назад
300C Touring
@benitojr4332
@benitojr4332 5 лет назад
also Dodge dakota
@60viking
@60viking 5 лет назад
Good idea. I keep thinking I want to Hot Rod one of them.
@detroitdevinh
@detroitdevinh 4 года назад
Magnum for muscle power.
@flos_01
@flos_01 5 лет назад
1:30 Austria not Australia
@JohnSmith-kk1ys
@JohnSmith-kk1ys 5 лет назад
300C touring
@michaelandin1167
@michaelandin1167 5 лет назад
Just hear me out, now I understand from a business standpoint why Chrysler chooses time and time again to make nearly all of their Dodge/Chrysler vehicles run on the same platform (makes parts cheaper to mass produce and use on multiple vehicles) but honestly. What reason do you give people to buy certain cars if there’s like no incentive other than a nameplate? Like the Charger and 300 have been the same god damn car since they started! Arguably the furthest they’ve been apart since production in 2005 is the current gen models, and that can pretty much all be attributed to the fact that they give no more shits about even bothering with the 300 at all. Like why would I pay $5k-6k more for a 300 over a Charger when they look the same. Perform the same and all the features can be shared between the two! I have a 2018 Chrysler and when I order Mopar parts I just say I have a Charger because it doesn’t even matter. Js. Rant over.
@JB-xp8xl
@JB-xp8xl 5 лет назад
300's are a little more upscale with options Magnum and Charger couldn't get, such as a light in the glove box, that's why you pay more for it.
@michaelandin1167
@michaelandin1167 5 лет назад
A glove box light is an option? I thought we were granted that luxury like 40 years ago I’ve never owned a Charger nor have I ever felt the need to have one
@Network126
@Network126 5 лет назад
Interesting how my 1984 Ford Tempo had a light in the glovebox, yet my current 2016 Ford Focus doesn't.
@victordishonest3290
@victordishonest3290 3 года назад
The magnum is literally a 300 with a different grille
@normski262
@normski262 4 года назад
Can anyone tell me realistically what I can expect MPG from the 300c 3000CDI merc engine model, highway cruising at around 70 or 80mph??
@makantahi3731
@makantahi3731 2 года назад
8 litres at 130km/h, in city 12litres, i have 5.7, and it destroys 15-18litres of lpg below 150km/h, about 18 litres at 150-200km/h, and 22-24 litres over 200km/h, what i mostly drive, so it is not effective below 200km/h because best torque is on4300rpm, and that is on 220km/h in 5. gear and 65% of throttle
@normski262
@normski262 2 года назад
@@makantahi3731 thanks interesting. do you find it reliable ?
@makantahi3731
@makantahi3731 2 года назад
@@normski262 mine does not have any common problems, i bought it 2012 with 140000km (now 210000)and failed:. crankshaft position sensor, thermostat, headlight leveling device, left wheel bearing, some rear wheel links, engine fans(both unsoldered , so i solder it again) i drive it as hell, i change engine oil every year , 6-8000km trans fluid rotate everi 4-6 months
@peterdelestrez8880
@peterdelestrez8880 2 года назад
Why Chrysler didn't sell the wagon version in North America is a mystery to me. Whoever was marketing for Chrysler needed a good boot in the ass. No wonder they're in trouble. They need to hire someone who knows what they're doing.
@TheEduventura25
@TheEduventura25 5 лет назад
300c sem sombra de dúvidas um veículo imponente e clássico ao mesmo tempo. Trás saúde para quem dirige. 🤣
@userwl2850
@userwl2850 5 лет назад
The 3.5 v6 petrol engine was very bad. Just search on RU-vid "300C 3.5 engine problem"
@SRQmoviemaker
@SRQmoviemaker 5 лет назад
The Australian review sounds fair and mostly unbiased but the UK review sounded like they might have been on the Chrysler payroll...
@roversnolan1
@roversnolan1 4 года назад
I think it's more the case that there was nothing else like the 300c in the UK that could compete with its price. No other car offered a V8 like it. In Australia however there are more large V8 powered cars like it.
@CX0909
@CX0909 Год назад
My god the 300C wagon interior is 100 times better than the magnum. That was the one thing I hated about my Magnum. That light grey just made me want to kill myself it was so depressing. But that black 300 interior with the chrome accents is sooooo much better. One thing I really loved about my Magnum is that it was AWD. Those are hard to find and useful as hell in bad road conditions. Thankfully it was an RT. So it had a little punch too. I was an idiot to let that thing go. Like many have already said… BRING IT BACK!
@FirstMetalHamster
@FirstMetalHamster 4 года назад
I prefer the 300C, If the Magnum had the exact same Front (including lights) as the Charger, I would've preferred that one instead. Either way, the load limit is horribly low, though.
@brandonrichardson6318
@brandonrichardson6318 5 лет назад
Can you do one on the 2000 Acura Rl and the Lexus LS 400
@jameshaydes6336
@jameshaydes6336 5 лет назад
Brandon Richardson mopars only
@bigscout1584
@bigscout1584 5 лет назад
So....if I am hearing this right....you can get a magnum and a 300c and merge the two.
@MarspeedCars
@MarspeedCars 5 лет назад
Yeah people do it over here (Magnum to 30C) if you buy the 300c bumpers and other parts. You can take it all the way to the interior too
@makantahi3731
@makantahi3731 2 года назад
i have 300c wagon awd, 5.7, if remove rear seats, you can put in easly 2mtb,5 big suitcases, 1additional lpg tank with 90 litres to extend range to 600km at 200+km/h, what it can easly keep no matter of highway uphill
@zarstar1576
@zarstar1576 Год назад
Never was Chrysler wagan I saw..just dodge European atyle
@joshjack6127
@joshjack6127 4 года назад
The Magna Steyr plant is in AUSTRIA, not AUSTRALIA, there is a difference 😂
@DubstepMime
@DubstepMime 5 лет назад
as a Chrysler 300C owner, I would like to make a note that the vehicle in the video is not a 300C.
@mattcrooke8321
@mattcrooke8321 5 лет назад
Sosa Parks, I’m afraid it is. In the UK and Europe, all 300’s were called 300c’s.
@makantahi3731
@makantahi3731 2 года назад
on some pictures are 300c 5.7 awd, because it has special rims
@monkehbitch
@monkehbitch 5 лет назад
The 2.7 wasn't sold in the UK.
@Uly1911
@Uly1911 3 года назад
Can someone locate me this car
@CarringtonHollister
@CarringtonHollister 5 лет назад
Do a video on the history of the Chrysler PT Cruiser
@brandons7888
@brandons7888 5 лет назад
3:27 " larger American passengers"? Did they just call us out on our obesity crisis?? 😂😂😂
@makantahi3731
@makantahi3731 2 года назад
my wife wears 38 number, i could have two wives on front passenger seat,
@CarringtonHollister
@CarringtonHollister 5 лет назад
Do a video on the history of the Dodge Journey
@LS1007
@LS1007 5 лет назад
First
@jimbeck3230
@jimbeck3230 5 лет назад
The smartest thing car manufacturers have done is to take a station wagon, add 4WD and call it an SUV. That way you can suck in some of the high performance crowd. It makes no sense to put hemis in station wagons.
@christopherlaw2460
@christopherlaw2460 5 лет назад
If they would’ve offered a manual transmission, instead of the 8+ different engine options, these cars would still be on the market today. The 300c without any badges would look exactly like a Benz wagon until you opened the door and look at the cheap interior. I would actually buy a 5.7l magnum if the opportunity presented itself.
@Crylhound
@Crylhound 5 лет назад
I am not a big fan of american cars, but these two wagons are pretty cool
@sirawesomemcdouglas5720
@sirawesomemcdouglas5720 5 лет назад
The touring wagon looks so confused.
@focalnicko9822
@focalnicko9822 5 лет назад
1:31 almost all tourings right hand drive ? Where did you get this info from ... there are endles tons of these in Europe with left hand drive. Especially in Germany. 5:44 no you didnt get the Srt wheels. You got the SRT design wheels (they are different) 11:30 the 300c 3.5 got only the 4 speed while magnum got 4 And 5sp ? Thats non-sence. Of course the 3.5 had 5 speed. Every single 3.5awd touring was 5speed. Only the old sedan rwd 3.5 had the stupid 4 speed auto ... Anyway. Nice video, keep up the good videos about these cars. I wish i could edit videos i would do some content with 300c’s in EU. I have three of those. By the way wagon we say KOMBI in europe. I have two kombis 2009 crd white And 2005 hemi awd black. Plus 04 sedan hemi rwd. But im far from knowing How editing videos works. I love those cars But they’re Also pain in the ass.
@jakubkrawczyk6418
@jakubkrawczyk6418 4 года назад
Endless tonnes ?? I wouldn't say that - surely it was sold with LHD, but it is still a niche car. Passat, Golf, A4 - these are in tonnes in DE.
@isaac198428
@isaac198428 5 лет назад
Question; Does Chrysler make crappy engines and transmissions overseas like the do here in the US? They are not exactly known for reliability up here but maybe they make better cars in Australia and Europe because it’s a different company manufacturing their vehicles. Maybe! lol
@dontelindsey5846
@dontelindsey5846 5 лет назад
They don't make transmissions anymore I think ZF makes the majority not their transmissions and what engine do they currently make that is crappy?
@AlfredvanKuik
@AlfredvanKuik 5 лет назад
My EU 300c is doing great after 330.000 kilometers on the clock. Shifts and drives perfectly. Now, I do have the diesel so the engine is Mercedes, and I think the transmission might be too?
@mattcrooke8321
@mattcrooke8321 5 лет назад
Both the engine and transmission are Mercedes made in pretty much all of the Euro cars, the diesel ones anyway. The auto box is the Mercedes 5g tronic.
@Welcometofacsistube
@Welcometofacsistube 5 лет назад
You know absolutely nothing about mopar and the history of their engine making ability
@Mgoblagulkablong
@Mgoblagulkablong 5 лет назад
1:34 Are you kidding me??? AUSTRIA, not Australia. You are making a fool out of yourself. Cliche american ignorance.
@MegaNinjaMonkeyZord
@MegaNinjaMonkeyZord 5 лет назад
idk how those two brands are still a thing, garbage quality and reliability for decades now , ancient tech, horrible warranty/service , symbolic resale value, and definitely not known to be drivers cars, there is no pros to owning anything made by them
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