Does Andrew Tate Give Good Advice? - Sam Harris 

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Regardless of your opinion on Tate. The question shouldn't be whether or not he is right or wrong, good or bad. The question should be, What is missing in peoples lives and our culture that means that a charcter like Tate has such a following?

Cool that you are interviewing him in a James Bond torture room.

Harris even knowing that Andrew Tate exists breaks my heart a little.

He went over 3 minutes in this clip before mentioning Trump. That's great progress from Sam.

Its the widespread dismal level of parenting that has teenagers and young men seeking mentors outside of their father.

“Intellect is not wisdom.” - Thomas Sowell

My new favourite quote "it should be more obvious to more people that someone's an asshole" Sooo true

I remember seeing Tate explain why he should have some say in what his girlfriend wears. Basically saying that because he may have to defend her, he now has a stake in her clothing selection. I remember thinking that this is like a Dwight Schrute mentality. It’s not necessarily wrong, it’s just a really adolescent set of priorities. Andrew Tate (and even more so, his brother) just give me this little boy vibe. It’s funny because his whole thing is supposed to be masculinity, but I see a little boy when I look at him and listen to him speak.

I really wish Christopher Hitchens was still with us, so we could listen to his views on the state of society.

JP left a vacuum? Did I get that right? He’s left tons of material, take it & use it. We actually don’t need endless advice, we need implementation of what we already know. Making content is more for the content maker than it is for need, often. Let’s appreciate JP for not indulging in that temptation.

I must agree with some of your audience when it comes to JP, I don't believe he has abandoned the youngman, I think one challange some have to face is taking that advice and putting it into practice. It's quite temting to keep looking for materials out there that will help you get better, you just have to take the first step and continue to walk even if sometimes it is not at the speed you wished. As for Sam's response to Trump's popularity I think it's more of a reaction to the overly protective mother spirit that's dooming the western world, when you impose a too kind and compassionate extreme people will run the other way. None of these extreme are good for us.

The pendulum swings back and forth. When everything became offensive being an asshole became attractive to people. When being an asshole gets played out, empathy will come back in style.

"Nothing more dangerous than the ignorance of the intelligent" Thomas Sowell

Tate is one of the least wise, least interesting, popular public figures. If you think Tate is wise, get a library card and start reading some books. Start with Plato and work your way forward.

"we're at a time whereeeeeee. people actually stopped watching tv for a second and they can actually think for themselves for moments at a time"

Still, the best way is to find answers in this chaotic world is to operate with a critical mind. You can take pieces of wisdom from anyone who has done something positive. The message that Andrew Tate is giving was and still given by J.Peterson, David Goggins, Jocko Wilinck, Andy Frisella, Bedros Keullian, Patric Bet David and many more in much better way. We can clearly see that most of the young men who follow Tate's advice are operating from a reaction position rather than rational thinking.

“I’ve seen enough of his content” is always the tell. Translation: “I’ve seen a few tik toks from my explore tab and formed an opinion”

loving all the Tate-worshipping soy boys here proving Sam's point

The production of these podcasts are on a different level Chris.

Two comments: 1. I don't think that Andrew Tate is filling Jordan Peterson's hole. It;s hard to believe that the viewers of those two are the same. 2. Chris and Sam are clearly doing some "curls for the girls"! You should have arm wrestled instead of just talking!

Sam is known for having an opiniom on everything , even things he doesnt really know anything about he just makes up one. Hes really bad at saying "i dont know" or "i havent seen enough of him to form my own opinion"

It’s interesting watching him judge Tate after saying he doesn’t know or hasn’t seem much about him. I just watched the interview on Candace Owens and it was very helpful to make sense of him. He seems smart and very ethically wise 🤔

Thank you for the aspect ratio👍 Always nice to see a video made for a full screen phone.

As a software engineer, the one thing that has been evident to me in my years is most people need something to follow. In my industry, every single person I have ever met or worked with who were genuinely exceptional at what they did, all used a particular skill that was endemic to only "their kind", and that was being able to know when to say "it depends" and knowing what to follow and when. Such terrible software has been built by many people I know that all completely failed to apply experience and critical problem solving skills to build a solution but swore by a bunch of frameworks and principles. My industry - just like society and many other industries - are completely infatuated with frameworks or ideas to follow because they feel like without them people completely descend to chaos. However, the truly exceptional people don't need such frameworks (or at least the ones most use) because they are able to operate without them because they can make those decisions on when to use them and what each give. This somewhat relates to what Sam has been arguing over the years with Religion with Peterson. Sam is the "exceptional" person who doesn't need religion to be a good person or succeed in society. However, as much as he likes to say religion isn't needed, the second you remove it, all of the non exceptional people will crumble into chaos - because some people (most) NEED something to follow as a framework or an order. Whether it be religion, veganism, political leanings, transgenderism or whatever "tribe" that has their things to follow. Tate for me is just another "tribe".

chris: let's talk about andrew tate sam: orange man bad!

Sam is caught up in his own dislike for these characters! He fails to really look at the real reasons why these people are truly popular in the first place.

I’m 70 years old. Andrew Tate is abrasive in his approach which by itself turns some people off to the point where they can’t hear the message. This is similar to the issue some folks have with Jordan Peterson. However their fundamental message is very true. The role of masculine men in society has been marginalized. There is a pseudo sophistication in our society that doesn’t see the need for strong, tough, aggressive men. That mentality even feeds into this fluid gender identity mythology. Equality, equality, inclusion, open minded, diversity and all the other buzzwords are an attempt to blur the lines of social norms that have existed for thousands of years. Not all of those norms are relevant or constructive but we seem to have thrown out the baby with the bath water. On some issues I’m 100% for being closed minded. An extreme example, or what appears to be extreme today, is the idea that a man can become a woman. Utter nonsense and yet you have supposedly very educated people that can look you straight in the eyes and make this claim. Another not quite as obvious is that racism is a major problem in the U.S. As a “person of color” married to another “person of color” having lived among people of color all my life that is utter nonsense. But you have preachers of the racial divide and a willing media still talking as if it is 1950’s. I lived through the 1950’s, 60’s and 70’s in Harlem. This is NOT your grandfather’s 1950’s. None of my kids, grandkids or great grandkids (white, black and everything in between) gets away with telling me how racism is the major barrier holding them back from achieving their goals in life. Yes, you will still get a sideways look, a roll of the eyes and a racial slur from some but there are no structural racial roadblocks preventing them from graduating from college or advancing in a particular career. Is there an absolutely level playing field? No. I apologize that my last name isn’t Gates, Clinton, Obama or Trump. Being born into a family with a billion dollars or impressive political connections does help. Such is life. But I’m very much concerned about giving the government the power and control so they can attempt to make things fair and equitable. Their attempt usually ends up trampling on the rights of those they are claiming they’re trying to help. In 21st century America if you put in the work you will be rewarded. All the attempts to reap rewards without putting in the work has resulted in a country with failing infrastructure and $33 trillion in debt.

I for one would like to see Chris sit down with Andrew Tate. I don’t really care what Sam thinks of Andrew. He doesn’t have the pulse of young men about virtually anything. Chris could hold Andrew’s feet to the fire and ask good questions.

I've not heard a funnier and, indeed, truer summation of Tate.

Tate has a point when he mentioned that young boys find him cool and that's why they listen to him. Sam is a smart guy and speaks like it. If you view Sam from young boy's perspective, he wil more likely come across as boring. This means that his words will come across as meaningless to those that it's designed to help.

Unbelievable Chris.. thank you for being a North Star of curiosity for generations that are lost. Love island was sick also!

Tate is simply a symptom a larger problem. With "social" media, many teenagers spend much of their time inside and never develop any meaningful relationships. This creates deep feelings of anger and resentment with many guys thinking they need to be over the top in order to get women and garner respect. It's literally the perfect storm for someone like Tate to capitalize on.

The best answers come from within, hearing something said by someone else that resonates from within is how we pass on wisdom. Who we choose to listen to is always a reflection of how we feel inside. Thought leaders are placeholders for us not soing our own thinking

I’ve not explored much of Sam Harris’ material, but I think I could get into it. I’m a big fan of Jordan Peterson (except his god bothering ways). Tate… well no. I find him too much. His narcissistic narrative is definitely ‘teenage’, and so even when he does make coherent points, he’s not someone you would quote or want to appear aligned with.

What you said about fluency...well rounded delivery & 'that sounds true'.

i wonder if sam can go 5 minutes without thinking about trump

If I received a dollar every time Harris opined about something through the lens of his personal, subjective disdain for Trump, I'd be wealthier than the most popular X influencers.

Can you get the apostate prophet on here to talk about the Candace Owens interview with Andrew Tate. He did a ton of research on the case and is very equipped to respond to the lies in that interview

Complaining about Andrew tate, but he himself is not doing anything to help/trying to connect with young men.

"I know you want to be like me, and if you're not good enough to be like me, I'll sleep with your girlfriend." 🤣🤣🤣

I always admire Sam’s ability to articulate his opinion so precisely …. But When his opinion is so shallow and a reflection of strong personal biases - makes him look so weak and petty - much less admirable

Who pissed in this guy’s cereal lol

🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:14 🧠 Sam Harris observes a current thirst for wisdom, acknowledging it can come from various sources, some more or less contaminated with toxic or divisive concepts. 01:11 🌐 Harris discusses Jordan Peterson's relative abandonment of conversations directly addressing young men, leaving a vacuum for insights that people seek. 03:44 🤔 Harris draws a parallel with Trump's shameless selfishness as a superpower for his audience, emphasizing the need for ethical role models who go beyond self-promotion. 05:21 📚 Harris distinguishes his views from Jordan Peterson's on the role of storytelling and myth in society, highlighting the importance of differentiating wishful thinking from truth. 07:27 📖 Discussing Richard Dawkins' criticism of the Old Testament God, Harris questions the wisdom of religious texts and their human origins, emphasizing the need to extract wisdom without belief in insufficient evidence. Made with HARPA AI

It's nice that they coordinate 😊

Despite being Buddhist, I used to refuse Sam Harris because I was hypnotized by Reza Aslan. Now, I love listening to Sam Harris, he has a great loving kindness and wisdom.

Young men should be looking for insights from their parents, teachers, elders, and honest hard working folks around them. NOT Andrew Tate, not Jordan Peterson or even Chris Harris. I understand the always connected, internet, social media culture we live in, but the reality in the real world is different than what any RU-vid channel screams about. Including yours, Chris. All of this is entertainment, not reality. That is the most important insight, that RU-vid, and social media is just ENTERTAINMENT!

he's got chris hysterical laughter but he's trying to hold it in!😂 all this ass-holery!😅😅😅

saying andrew tate is not ideal is such an understatement lmfao

Sam Harris NAILED my feelings entirely on this. Andrew Tate talks about discipline but that's not what he really means. He talks about hard work and being "good" but that's not what he really means. At bottom he means relentless egoism and selfishness and some degree of narcissism. For someone who's never seen a truly masculine, compassionate, good man you might think Andrew Tate is that but it's not at all. There's some seriously remarkable, good champion men that existed in the past that you could strive to be like. Of course older men like Sam Harris know this, they grew up in a different time with different role models and got to see this first hand. Great interview.

Sam Harris built some muscle.

Agree with Sam

This guy regardless of what he thinks about anyone if anyone is pushing bettering yourself take the good from that, nobody is perfect and it’s the combination of good influences that hopefully get people to change for the better and be better people to themselves their families and society.

The only thing I care less than Andrew Tate is other people's opinions of Andrew Tate

I thought the whole Tate thing was a media smear campaign, and for the most part it is but if you actually watch videos of him talking about his webcam business it's the most disgusting, subhuman stuff ever.

sam harris got jacked 💪

4:34 He hit the nail on the head.

That guy doesn’t even exist to me and I’m better off for it. I got the information I really needed from Andrew Huberman 💫✊ 335 days no alcohol 🏆

So he doesn’t know anything about him but has an opinion…

Sam does radiate some strong presence energy - must be quite impressive

A man pressed his finger onto a bruise and felt a rush of pain, so he cut off his finger. That is what we do when we focus on AT.

Sam Harris is just a Sam Seder ... but with a calm demeanor and mellifluous voice.

Everytime i hear Sam talk I believe more and more that his name is on a flight log.

Side question of course, but does anyone know what type / brand of laptop Chris has in this video? So tiny.

Andrew Tate reminds me of Gunnery Sergent Hartman, the senior drill instructor in the movie "Full Metal Jacket."

A ridiculous take

Who the hell is sam Harris to determine anything about what this Generation need

I think the problem is that there's a vast proliferation of opinion - which everyone IS entitled to - which simply isn't worth shit. There's a huge number of people selling intellectual snake oil without conscience because they can, because it's profitable, and because there's no real consequences so, somehow, they become a topic of "discussion". Most people are somewhere on the Alex Jones sliding scale of "journalism" around this. Andrew Tate - POS or victim or both? Everyone chime in or pile on but is Andrew Tate really worth the time or trouble just because we can talk about him?

Sam def has been to that TRT clinic. Hell yea, good for him On a more serious note. “It’s a book. It was clearly written be human beings”. The fact that this is actually not just not obvious, but blasphemous to say to some people is sad and astounding. It’s time to grow up folks. It has run its course and become an anchor on progress and society’s growth

Tell me u never watched a full context andrew tate video without telling me 😐

I'm 30 years old and agree with most of Tate's ideas. The nonsense that young inexperienced men are the target of his message is ludicrous. He is not perfect and I don't expect him to be but I don't see how we would rather not have him then have him there for men. He advocates more than anything self improvement for men and radical independence. He speaks of heartbroken men who have been left by their wives, purposely teenagers who sit and play video games all day, boys who prioritize women over themselves. Truth is we live in a society that prioritizes women over men and everyone is sick of that because believe or not, men are humans too. And most of these so called "wise" people that are speaking against Tate are people who have never been seen in public making an effort to improve the lives of men in any way. He is here criticizing Tate's ideologies yet withholding his own "wise" ones. He has never for a moment spoken against even the most obviously inequitable treatment of men in society yet he is here with his holier than thou attitude criticizing a man who is making an effort. How then should we listen to him when we don't know a single about his life. When has this man directly stood up for men?! And by which measure should we say that this man is wiser than Tate. I don't see how he can sit here and speak as an oracle of truth when Tate is better than him in every measurable way. I've seen Jordan Peterson criticize Tate as well yet he depressed out of his mind and raised a daughter with a host of mental issue and physical issues and a young divorcee. How are these people talking as something to look up to. Because JP, in my opinion, can learn a thing or two from Tate and I say this as somebody who loves JP. These people are mistaking timidity for wisdom. When this men goes home, he must then answer to his wife, he has a duty to preserve his own relationship and he would do that over your own interest.

We're all selfish by design. Its about practicing humility, being honest and flawed. Willingness to do the right thing. Finding out who you are and not conforming to other people's ideals. Run you're own race.

Thank you for not saying "narcissistic" and instead using "self infatuation". people overuse the shit out of that diagnosis nowadays

He said we need a "Perfect human being" Someone who has never fail, never make mistake, never been poor... to be our model. If that person exist, I wonder what he will teach us so we could consider him as model, maybe that person will told us how to reborn and live a perfect perfect life from the beginning. Most people will go the news and talk about what a model should be, but they themselves couldn't even thinks about their own opinion from a critical point of view. Do you Want to teach me how to get jacked, show me your body Want to teach me how to succeed , show me your failures Want to teach me how to become better, show me your mistakes. Imagine someone teaching you how to control yourself as man when he himself need a pill to feel whole. 😂

The problem with Sam is he acts like this really pragmatic, fair custodian of ethics, but he strawmans Tate's views and then ignores the objectively positive aspects of his message. But sam talks with a really calm voice tho so let's just all nod our heads.

bro finaly someone sane who expose the stupidity of the sheep followers of andrew tate, it took years just to state the obvious

Absolutely disagree, the reason the west is in bad shape is because we are too tolerant and too compassionate. So compassionate that when someone says, "I am not a person, I am a cat" we just agree and allow them to live outside of reality. This isn't helping anyone. Andrew Tate made a great point in his interview with Candace Owens. Tate is cool, that's why young guys listen to him. I agree with Sam on a lot of things and also disagree with Tate on a lot of things. This just isn't one of them.

I can't express the joy I had listening to this.

"Assholery" is a new term to add into an Oxford dictionary!

I agree with Sam in the sense that it is good to understand and acknowledge that any religious text has reen written by a human.. As enlightened as that human might have been they were still human with their own lense of life, their own personal views and biases. I also agree that there is wisdom to be found in all of these teachings however we put ourselves on a slippery slope when we start putting these texts on pedestals or taking them literally.

Sam Harris has a lot of criticism for someone who offers young men absolutely zero advice

Who wore it better? (Black T-shirt). Should age be a factor in your choice? Deep questions, deeper answers.

Tate speaks youth directly without philosophical complicated words. In every 10 seconds, he says something simple, right and direct.

Anyone who feels masculine by slavishly following someone else is pretty much the opposite of masculine.

2:49 Lmfao! This is why I love Harris!

Watching most of these comments and people talking about things that Sam also acknowledged in the podcast makes me think most people commenting here just watched this clip only. Watch the whole thing first guys Edit: Or you just wanna say the antithesis regardless which is fine i guess

The expectation that our role models, mentors, etc. Have to be perfect, or we need to agree with everything they do is why the world is the way that it is. We're all are not perfect, but that doesn't mean Tate doesn't have a valuable message

I think part of it is us not being willing to accept the actual worldview of Generation Zillenials and Alphas. Absurd humor permeates how they communicate; so it shouldn’t be surprising when people who say or do absurd things are taken seriously by them. The kids have a certain wisdom contained in their cynicism and that cynicism seems to be in part a reason for the use of absurdity. I think the trick is to appeal to their absurdity and actually address their cynicism.

TLDR, even a broken clock is right at least once a day.

Lol it’s a bit ironic hearing Sam Harris talk about people being assholes like he’s the beacon of kindness.

The irony of Sam Harris not seeing that the majority of people would come away from a conversation with him thinking “what an asshole” 😂

My fave talk from Harris

Dr Jodran Peterson has left enough videos, enough books and enough research surrounding the subject of mental health and specifically addressing mens issues within society in order to move on to other subjects. There is a difference. It doesn’t have to be on going as what makes a psychological difference to the human mind, let alone neurological, is not going to change so significantly, within the next 20 years that it renders that information void. Furthermore, Peterson is a clinical psychiatrist he wasn’t ever specialising in one subject matter.

Tate is an icon for the plebs. Hyper macho smooth talking materialistic cliche. Fast food hero.

Andrew would never have the balls to have a formal debate with Sam

SH is projecting inner qualities unto others.

What's the alternative? 'No one is going to save you, become the best men you can become so you can live the life you want to live.' Is there need for an alternative?

"I don't know anything about the case, whether he's guilty or not..." Love hearing two guys talk a huge legal case they know nothing about!

It is easy to criticize Tate, but no one other than him are able to reach young people with a positive message. I think Jordan Petersen is the only other person with an impact on young men. I would like to see Sam debating Tate. Or Chris.

Looks like Christopher Nolan set this scenery up.