Does Col. Dugan Know Kreese and Terry Silver? 

I got a feeling Col.Dugen was a good person but was rejected by Keese and Sliver in Cobra Kai or get his butt kicked alot. He takes his failures and frustrations out on his students. The army is all he knew.

Colonel Dugan is admittedly not, as interesting compared to John Kreese and Terry Silver, but he does have the contrast factor that does make things fascinating. Notice, how Terry's favorite way of pain and pleasure is psychological damage on his enemies. Terry doesn't have a problem hurting you, but he takes pleasure mainly from hurting you emotionally by turning Daniel aggressive, he breaks his relationship with Miyagi and turns Daniel into what Daniel hates. Colonel Dugan doesn't focus too much on hurting someone mentally with the exception of threats, like you said Dugan focuses on Brute force and Physical Harm. Kreese on the other hand is a mix of the two. He becomes more psychologically damaging around those close to him, like Johnny and doesn't take much of an issue with it, as long as it benefits him and his goals. Around those he views as enemies or outsiders, he enjoys the physical harm, like it's a war. Terry to me represents Psychological harm, Colonel Dugan represents the physical harm and pain, and Kreese is like a interesting hybrid.

One of the major things I notice about Cobra Kai is that nothing is written by accident, everything is on purpose in the Storyline.

I'm a simple man. I see Ken Cole uploaded a video about Michael Ironside and I click.

I bet he was one of the POWs held with Kreese and Silver

To me, Dugan is the only Karate Kid villain that doesn’t have a single redeeming quality. But if he shows up in Cobra Kai, I’m certain the writers of the show will change that.

All three of them knowing each other is definitely the "entry point" to insert him into the series and also bring in the character Julie. It would not surprise me if it is already in the back of their minds for planning with nothing set in stone yet.

is exactly what I was thinking and you are literally one of the few who have touched the issue of whether Terry Silver and John kreese knows Paul dougan

Col. Dugan and his students are the most over the top school security guards I've seen. lol

I like that theory. It's possible that after those events and under the guidance of Kreese, Dugan was set on the road to become an Alpha Elite. He may of modeled himself after him and when he rose in the ranks, branched off to start his own unit. He may been a career military man until settling as a security officer in the public schools. I think in the current timeline of Cobra Kai it's likely after the dissolution of Alpha Elite he may went into private military contract work echoing the "stories" Kreese was feeding Johnny in Season Two.

I am assuming they will start introducing characters from TNKK in future seasons, because I believe Kreese, Silver and Dugan met sometime in Vietnam, whether he was a member of their unit or was a commanding officer. As for Julie, it would be nice if she and Daniel met so they can make Miyagi do more better.

I so would love seeing Dugan again on Cobra Kai as well as Julie but I want to see Julie as Tory's anger management therapist plus it's well known and the writers have said Julie and Daniel met at Miyagi's funeral and it's likely Dugan knew Kreese and Silver

Michael ironside, the actor who played Dugan, is currently in an Irish/Belgian co-production, "Hidden Assets". He's aged considerably and has put on quite a bit of weight. I couldn't see him making a comeback to Cobra Kai, but it's good he's still active

I hope they put him in the show It’d make sense for the school to

6:41 OMG i havent notice any of that! you are a genius, now i do think that is a younger dugan. TB3 put a lot of atention to detail. this is great!

First! yesss i wanted a video like this ! the next karate kid doesnt get many atention, because it kinda doesnt deserve it as a movie, but the amount of interesting lore of karate kid that this movie brings up has always fascinated me,a lot of ideas with potential to do a great movie with a good screenwriter as rmk or a good director, even when the movie itslef its pretty mediocre. so im glad that you are talking about that element of the movie specially the character of coronel dugan.

The writers have done a terrific job exploring the dimensions of Kreese, Silver, and with Mike Barnes so clearly coming back, Dugan deserves a comeback. If you can make Silver and Kreese crazier than they were in the original movies, you could do the same with Dugan, I can imagine Dugan bringing back the Alpha Elites and then wondering what Cobra Kai is so he meets Silver and they get along so well he decides to work with Silver to make Alpha Elites even tougher

The character in Cobra Kai season three there was the guy in the POW camp in Vietnam who fought someone over the snake pit and beat him although there was no name to that character. That character might be considered Dugan. The Next Karate Kid was terrible. However, putting the character Dugan, Kreese, and Terry together in Cobra Kai would be awesome!

I want to see Col Dugan bring his whole gang here in season 5 of Cobra Kai

Ironside (Dugan) and Kove (Kreese) were in a movie together in 2001.. it is called Extreme Honour

The evil thing that Dugan does,he mostly orders,however he could be serving Prison and he has PTSD,it appears that way.

Dugan has an impressive military career. He taught Maverick to fly and he killed bugs in the Battle of Klendathu. He could not survive Miagi’s bad breath. HONK!

If they bring Dugan back they should bring in Julie,Eric McGowan,and Ned too.

This was a much needed video, and I really liked how you showed how we may have already seen him in the flashback. That causes me to think we most likely have and this can get even better as the series moves along.

As far as I'm concerned, that soldier in the flashbacks is dugan. Brilliant analysis.

They could definitely use that for the future if they do want to bring him back or maybe you found their Easter egg.

He's a hell of a bad guy actor. I would definitely welcome him.

The two old friends Silver might dig up for season 5 might just be Barnes and Dugan. 👌🏻

Ken Cole is looking cool with the Alpha's t-shirt 😎

Col Dugan to help form the new Alpha Elite aka Cobra Kai Elite Dugan teams up with Kreese & Kim They destroy Silver and then shift towards Miyagi Fang and then Julie Pierce teams up with Daniel , Johnny , Chozen , and Barnes

He's a total badass!

Coming back to this I think you are correct They seem to be bringing in every old character from the karate kid show They even showed Johnny’s old biker gang /best friends After this it’s possible they do the final series during college and that’s where Dugan will be . Plus that’s a pretty good actor that I would love to see again on the screen

All three were part of shadow company.

I always thought that Kreese and Dugan were rivals who served in different units and hated each other.

Another great video, Mr. Cole! I'd been wondering what your next video would be about. It's very much possible Dugan and Kreese/Silver *have* crossed paths. Seeing Young Kreese vs. Young Dugan in a 1970-1972 Army Karate Championships flashback would be another cool way to bring Dugan into Cobra Kai, even if just as an Easter Egg.

If you think about it, the young POW soldier in Vietnam does kinda resemble what a young Dugan would look like.

Very interesting stuff there Ken, I actually haven't seen the karate kid film he is in but i have to say i am a massive fan of Michael Ironside and if this is a possible way to bring him into the Cobra Kai universe it would not be a mistake to bring him in. He does for sure have the right style on screen for a bad guy and what you mentioned about the flash backs could well be him.

All I want is a prequel series to Cobra Kai where it focuses on Kreese after the flashbacks in series 3. Imagine, Kreese and Silver making the foundation of CK, learning more Tang Soo Do and competing in the Army Karate Champs. Who does Kreese face in the Tournament I hear you ask? Col. Dougan of course

Come back Micheal Ironside 😍

THE DUDE WAS ALREADY IN COBRAI KAI IN THE FLASHBACKS!!!!!!!

One thing I think it's good to notice is that Dugan's focus seems to be less on individual martial artist skill - and focus more upon societal control and applying brute strength to answer any dissent. The Alpha Elites wield an absolutely enormous and bizarre level of influence, control, and Dugan himself was able to weigh in on expulsion and multiple school functions. Whereas Kreese and Silver focus on martial arts themselves, Dugan is more of a controller of social circumstances and power in structures. I think it might be realistic to expect the Alphas to be akin to "you invite them in to keep your school safe, but slowly they usurp more and more control and authority". Which considering the repeated bullying and karate incidents at the school in Cobra Kai, we might see the school end up inviting the Alpha Elite in to "keep the students safe" via forming a Chapter there, not knowing what they're inviting into their midst.

I could definitely see Dugan appearing in season 5 to keep things fresh. I don't think we need him in season 4 as we have Silver to mix things up and I'd like to see Mike Barnes before Dugan (which we probably will)

I always saw Dugan's fighting style as simplified military hand-to-hand combat. Like U.S. Marine Corps L.I.N.E. was in the 90's. Not martial arts.

I don’t think he’s connected. They just couldn’t use finish him as that was used by Kreese in karate kid. They just changed the words about a bit lol

Dang Ken , I'm at 5 minutes in and wondering to myself if those POWs could have been Duggan. Then you brought it up. Way to be on point with all the angles. Great video perspective.

In Cobra Kai just before Armand went to the Cobra's Gym, there was a scene where Kreese was seeing a photograph from Vietnam days. There were 3 guys on the picture: Silver, Kreese and probably Dugan.

Dugan wasn't really fleshed out in " The Next Karate Kid" he was very one dimensional in the movie. Unlike Kreese, we got to see many sides of him in the First , Second and Third Karate Kid movies and we got to see how methodical Terry Silver was. We really don't know that much about Dugan.

If it means getting Michael Ironside chewing the scenery. YES! It would be interesting though if he actually turned out to be the most stable of them all, after 30 years of treatment. I thought Terry Silver was gonna turn out to be the voice of reason that would bring Kreese back to his senses, but I guess I was wrong on that.

After watching season 5 and re watching the next KK , I think this may well be the case, in one of he first scenes when he is training in the school yard, he grabs the throat of one of his students very similar move that chozen does to Daniel when he tells him about master Kim and Tang Soo Do. Could this mean that Dugan studied under master Kim during the Vietnam war?

I would love for Dougan to return in Season 5 or 6. The producers confirmed that they are planning at least 8 seasons of Cobra Kai. I would love to see Col Dougan return and be the soldier in the cage with Kreese and Silver. I could imagine that Silver brings him back to help him train his students in season 6. Silver will need all the help he can get because now Daniel, Johnny and Chozen will be working together, heck maybe Julie returns and joins them in training the Miyagi Do and Eagle Fang students. with that quarted working together Silver will be in deep troubles, he’ll need Mike Barnes and Dougan to come and help him train his students

I think that's very possible Has that would also allow Julie from the next karate kid into the cobra kai serie & help tie everything together nicely

They may have just known each other, but that is about it. They probably were not friends.

Dugan definitely could have known Kreese and Silver. All of them were in the military. This factor easily could have made it so they knew each other.

You by far have the best Cobra Kai/Karate Kid videos on the net. Great explanations of the characters and lore, and all possible theories are logical and based on facts. And catch the smallest things that no one else does ❤️

I actually never thought that soldier in the NAM flashback could be col Dugan now that I look at them he has a general young look to Dugan like the kreese and silver actors in the flashbacks I actually think that could be the only way he and Julie can be introduced in cobra Kai because the writers said they want to involve all the characters that includes the Next karate kid characters he could be in s5 as one of the ‘old friends to help out with cobra Kai’ like Mike Barns because silver wants to open many dojo’s he needs a lot of sensei’s to teach at them

I think dugon will appear in cobra Kai season 4 with kreese and silver war buddies

I always thought it was funny how Dugan promised Eric that he could get get him into the Air Force Academy, but no mention that a letter of recommendation from Miyagi, a winner of the Medal of Honor, could quite possibly, and very likely get Eric into the Academy as well. I find it unlikely, albeit not impossible, that Dugan has such an accolade. The reason I doubt it is because Dugan mentions his Army experience, but never mentions his awards... Not likely for someone like Dugan to not mention something like that. Many veterans don't like to speak about his/her war experiences, but Dugan, to me at least, just does not seem to fit that mold. Anyway, as Miyagi himself told Daniel, the medal only proved he was lucky, not brave. As for Dugan knowing Kreese and Silver? Possible, maybe even plausible. Being in the same unit in a war does not mean they all go home together to the same city and meet every Friday night for beer and billiards. Most go home to wherever their family/friends are, or wherever they can get a job and make a living, but some do stick together, and/or keep in contact in their post military lives.. I could certainly envision Dugan conditioning and sparring with the Cobra Kai students as Kreese and Silver look on in preparation of the tournament. He could certainly be the guy in the flashback. Maybe he will be in season 4... and/or/maybe future seasons. It would absolutely take a serious character overhaul to make Dugan fit to stand with Kreese and Silver as a formidable and believable villain, and not look like just a lackey. If they want that kind of character in the show, let them bring back Sting Ray...

Michael Ironside played his part well and I like him as an actor. This is a great potential write-in for him

I wouldn't be surprised if kreese makes a side trip to boston to pay an old friend a visit and finds ducan working as a security officer guard

If they have not met up in the Cobra Kai series flashback scene (interesting and plausible theory btw), it is fair to assume that Dugan knows Kreese by reputation for the 3 years Karate championship in the U.S. Army. Heck, maybe the reputation of Kreese could have influenced Dugan's career path after the army.

When Julie Pierce comes back hell ya I want to see Col. Dugan again. He has revenge on his mind still if they decide to keep him as a instructor who has a east coast dojo coming in to the All Valley or some veteran bum on the street that finds out where she is.

Love to see Col Dugan team up with Kreese and Barnes and form the new Alpha Elite and get revenge on Silver

Excellent video!

This would be an interesting to solidify the entire karate kid and Kobra Kai series

I like yur concept and the guy in flashback does look like young Duggan

I tweeted Hayden Schlossberg if Dugan was coming back and he said that Dugan has come up quite a lot in the writers room but want to find a way to bring him back that’ll make sense, we gotta tweet him this video because this theory does make a lot of sense

Col Dugan is here and Ready to give his Maximum response

Kreese was a two-time Karate champion in the Army. It is likely they could have met at one of those tournaments as well.

Col. Dugan looks like Red foreman from that 70s show

I hope there's no relation. Soem fan theories with relationships sound neat, but it's just too coinsidential that all the people across the country and around the world are tied to some little karate tournament.

Here's to seeing Dugan return to help his fellow former POW Kreese in season 6 of Cobra Kai👍💪👊

Thanks for this man. Amazing possibilities. Imagine if Col Dugan comes back and it turns out he is Dmitri's uncle or something. Season 4 will be epic. You think Mike Barnes is returning?

I was wondering about this for a while

Ken you remind me of my grandfather that's passed on, you have such a calm disposition and voice and you also manage to offer new ideas and talking points without being irritating. Thank you! That is one of the most interesting theories you've ever put across. If that was Dugen who killed the first soldier, that would explain why he is the way he is.

Col. Dugan could have been a Capt. or Maj. at the time they were in Vietnam...

He got his redemption in Starship Troopers. “Everyone fights. Nobody quits. If you dont do your job, I’ll shoot you.” Oorahh

Well, atleast his military flashback won't have a ponytail lol

Well, he could be the next secret character reveal of Cobra Kai Season 5ive.....

That would be a great way to bring him on to the show. The flashback looks like a young Dugan.

I remember macchio saying anyone who interacted or knew mr. Miyagi in the karate kid universe they will or may be in cobra Kai.

Silver will probably ask Dugan for help once Mike will decline(there is a chance he turned over a new leaf). Silver and Dugan will try to hire Ned(who probably turned over a new leaf aswell). Given Silver's wealth and Dugan's military connections, they will turn Cobra Kai to a youth movement.

Word has it that Vietnam vets are really not bad guys. Makes me question the integrity of Karate Kid and Cobra Kai.

The name Michael Ironside sounds more like someone in the Navy

If they bring back a remix of American Ninja....I'm headed for the hills...

No way... Dugan was in the Navy, call sign "Jester" in the Top Gun academy. He was also a smoker with no cardio. He was lying to his students to appear tougher.

Everything matches! Too much coincidences. It's very clear, for me at least. Greetings and great job again!

I think there all three related For sure They’ll tie it up somehow Ironside a very interesting character But before he’s introduced I do see Mike Barnes coming before he does

Michael Ironside will always be my Darksied

I've been thinking about Colonel Dugan having something to do with Kreese and Silver in Vietnam for the past couple seasons.

I like your work Ken. You really dig into these characters. I'm not a subscriber yet, but you almost got me, LOL!

Ya know? I always pondered about if Dugan knew Kreese (and possibly Silver too) I mean they did serve in the military after all, but after watching this interesting theory, I wonder that even more, especially that one theory about the mystery guy possibly being Dugan, I wouldn't be surprised if it was confirmed to be him!

The young guy has an underbite like Dugan.

Yes yes yes I help you spring him in the series

Dugan should come in with a two by four and call himself Hacksaw Jim Dugan. 🤣

Adding Michael Ironside to the show would be interesting

Spot On With The PoW Connection. Certainly Plausible.

I didn’t notice it when I watched season 3, but that’s where they set up the introduction of Colonel Dugan and the Alpha Elite. Not only with the POW camp but also with the parent school board meeting in episode 1. My theory for season 6 is that the Alpha Elite will be brought into West Valley. After reconnecting with Kim Da-Eun, Kreese who is on the run will connect with Colonel Dugan and that will lead to an alliance between the Alpha Elite and Kim Da-Eun’s way of the fist students. And that will lead to Julie Pierce coming in

I want her signature kick to show up in season 5 or 6

Michael Ironside is a great villain in any movie. Would love to see him in Cobra Kai. Did part 4 take place at a high school? All the students appear to be 30-35.

Dugan like everything with tnkk is cheesy and OTT but Ironside is great and the Cobra kai writers can make something good of him. Good catch on the young soldier before kreeses fight being Dugan