Does F1 need an 11th team? 

I get that "newcomers" preferably want to merge with an existing team. But if you fulfill the requirements and cough up the 200mil, you should be allowed to enter(up to the limit stated in the rules). But none of this "teams blocking new entries" or the FOM(I guess?) deciding you can't for some reason like Andretti. I find it all very strange.

200 Mil? Where did you get that number? From what I know is that a potential new team has to put forth a payment of 50 mil which will be given back tom the team once it's qualifications have been made sure /I think after a certain amount of time). In essence they pay a sort of security lest the entry is not serious.

@@Athrun82 No, new Concorde regs state that a 200m non-refundable payment is made to be split between fom and all other teams.

@@mikecostanza303 Oh I didn't know that. thanks for the information. That is a lot of money just for entering the club I have to say

@@Athrun82 For sure, man. And yeah, absolutely it is! I believe they even call the payment the 'anti-dilution fee' to 'compensate' the other teams for their loss of market share. Think if there's a pie of cash to split, instead of 10 teams + fom its now 11 + fom. That's what the first guy was saying. 200 million is an absurd amount of cash, but that's the rule. Okay. So why is there even a debate if there is a team willing to satisfy the rules to enter?

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Agreed

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That's why they have 200 mil limit

It's worth noting that the 3 teams joined on the belief that there would be regulation changes that would help them. Therefore, they so no reason to spend money on that car when they could spend it on the next one. The problem is those changes never came. I don't remember the full story of those teams but please watch Aiden Millwards videos about them, they're pretty good videos if you have the time.

Those three joined on the promise that 2010 would see a budget cap like this season so that they could compete with their smaller budgets. Only problem is that didn’t happen until 13 seasons later and those teams suffered as a result. Manor was the closest to surviving but lost out in the long run.

@@glxywlf I will check it out, thanks for the suggestion.

I just kinda wish we still had some teams do stupid stuff and pull off these weird races and stuff. Master card Lola for example, or Andrea Moda And then the random/dumb drivers that made appearances. In maintenance terms I just more vids from John and Josh

No chance ahahha

Andretti in Indy are moreso actively disassembling themselves atm lmao

Team Andretti hasn't been doing that well in Indy this year actually. That doesn't mean I think that means they'd be HRT level in F1 though. If they do things the right way they could he competitive.

They'd probably follow suit and HQ their F1 division out of Northamptonshire or somewhere close

Would be a dream

"if Audi uses Lamborghini's brand image" pretty sure Team Modena permanently tainted that lol, just go in as Audi itself with its Le Mans heritage

@@ForelliBoy To be fair, Team Modena is an example of why F1 should be wary of adding new teams to the Sport. McLaren (and Senna) tested the same Lamborghini engines and Senna said they were incredible. McLaren chose not to run it because Lamborghini's financial status at the time looked bad (the company went through some big problems before being sold to VW and Audi). Team Modena being a relatively small team took the engine and name but couldn't do much with it. If we look at where they are now, Lamborghini is thriving under Audi's control. If we look at both company's future, it seems like Lamborghini can benefit more from a commercial standpoint than Audi. It seems like Audi wants to go all-electric with their road cars while Lamborghini wants to go hybrid, and the 2026 rules will use hybrid engines. Compare that with what would become their rival teams, Audi will need to fight Mercedes while Lamborghini will need to fight Ferrari and McLaren. The reason Audi wants to join F1 is a combination of technology, brand image, and road car advertising, but Lamborghini can benefit more from these than Audi will (apart from maybe brand image). Now if we talk about liveries, imagine a Lamborghini F1 team with the lime green Squadra Corse livery. Audi's livery would also look pretty cool with their white and black car with a red nose (very similar to the 2000s McLaren liveries, but more sharper), but I feel Lamborghini's would be more noticeable. I believe an "Audi-Lamborghini" team would be great for both companies, but Lamborghini on its own will benefit more than Audi by having an F1 team.

What is Andretti

@@amr_rr Andretti Autosport. It was started by the Michael Andretti, the son of Mario Andretti (1978 F1 champion, and arguably one of the best racers of all time). They currently run a successful IndyCar team but also have teams in Formula E, Extreme E, and Australian Supercars. They have been trying to get into F1 for a while now and they even have all the resources to create a new team, but the FIA isn't giving them the permission to do it.

@@yannickvaz694 oh ok do u know why?

This! So many young and talented drivers coming into the sport but the available spots are just not enough, with veterans and pay drivers taking up most of the seats

Excellent point. There are a lot of really good young drivers whose path to the F1 is blocked. Calum Ilott came over to IndyCar this year and as an IndyCar fan I'm happy to have him, but I'd have rather seen him get a shot in F1.

A man can dream. That would be perfect. And to add to that, hopefully Papa Stroll sells Aston Martin before he completely destroys it.

I'd prefer for Cashdaddy to finally become the cold financial Calculator who looks at the numbers and is just calm and patient. That man is in there, somewhere, I hope...

Renault-NISMO Do I see Polyphony Digital sponsor incoming?

Not to mention the hybrid units now would play into Toyota's favor given the success of the Prius and the RAV4 Prime

It's true that someone has to be last. The obvious hope is that any new teams would at least be competitive in the midfield. Someone will be the back markers for a race but if who that someone is changes from weekend to weekend I hope that would at least be tolerable for any new teams, especially with the new cost cutting rules in place. Ideally needing less money to put a car on the grid will entice some manufacturers or other racing teams (like Andretti). At the very least it would nice to have one or two engine builders who don't have their own works teams. Unless a works team screws up very badly it's unlikely that a customer team will ever be able to consistently beat them.

We are working on the issue

Those teams lineups: Andretti: Herta & Grosjean or Rossi Audi: Vettel & Schumacher

I've seen rumors Audi buying Saubet but I really like this one

If Mick wouldn't have crashed so much this season Haas would be fighting Alpha Tauri and Alpine rn. Haas had troublesome years, but this season is going fantastic compared to almost all previous ones and with Gene now beeing commited because of the Budgetcap we should believe it only goes up from here!

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That’s really hard to control. Realistically the bottom teams should never score points. The midfield is a lot of teams and very tight this season which is why every team has scored a point. The only reason Aston did is extreme upgrades and Williams only scored points because of retirements and a weird phenomenon with the hard tire. But as John stated, more teams can save the pre-existing teams from folding and also allow back of the field drivers to actually race.

More teams are fine as long as they're competitive teams. I think tne cost cap would certainly help in that regard. We don't want another HRT but a team like Haas came in and was solidly mid-pack (for a few years anyway....) If the new teams can be more Haas rhan HRT I wouldn't have a problem with them. Having a few extra cars means a lot of the junior talent that's currently locked out of F1 will get a chance as well.

Lewis would have a word about that for sure. Imagine a Hamblock..

Andretti has the money and the means to compete as well. Andretti Motorsports has its fingers in numerous racing series

Dennis Hauger is in his rookie season,He is a good driver but he is not the next Oscar Piastri

What do you say about my beloved Haas? Look how far theyvve come already this season! Gene always slumped because there was no algorithm for the needed money to drive competitivly! He is full onboard now with the Costcap. Only thing that holds Haas back is the moneyloss of Gazprom and the drought of Sponsors. They even will bring updates this season. Other than Mick who has a classic bad first half (though I should mention his points in Silverstone) this year and the future look great for them! Alpha Tauri... I'd say it's lack of quality personnel in the Offices and the lack of full on funding of RB. Though for me thats totally fine, having a Midground team fighting well for it and training youngsters. I just wish Alpine had the same with a Renault-Nismo.

Considering the requirements needed to enter, the teams would be staying for years.

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Logan Sargeant over both

YES

Agreed. There are currently too many good drivers who can't get an F1 seat. If the teams do things the right way and are solidly mid-pack when they join I think adding two more teams would be the way to go.

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