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0:00 intro
0:22 if you're a woman, you should be a feminist
5:28 there's no wrong reason to get an abortion
12:18 the feminist movement is inherently racist
18:52 feminists don't appreciate all that men do for society
26:20 only women should make laws about women's bodies
32:59 feminism that doesn't include trans women isn't feminism
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45:18 it's rational for women to fear men
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@jubilee Год назад

did this conversation help you find empathy with the other side?

@God-gi9iu Год назад

Fortnite

@thekulaura Год назад

no Edit- 1k likes for a single syllable? Jeez

@flashstar1234 Год назад

Middleground ideas: Male Feminists vs Female Antifeminists Creationist Christians vs Evolutionist Christians Pro-life democrats vs Pro-choice democrats Pro-life republicans vs Pro-choice republicans Pro-life democrats vs Pro-choice republicans

@littlebear15647 Год назад

It helped me understand the other side.

@slangoognals Год назад

"Feminism means I can't be a housewife" is such a terminally online take.

@suleydaman 11 месяцев назад

You might think this is a hottake, but I literally know feminists who think housewife = slavery and the fact that women still want to do it, a sign that we havent ovethrown pateiarchy

@an-me 10 месяцев назад

That whole anti feminist side is terminally online. They didn’t even take to time to try and understand the other side either, they also thought that because they didn’t like the feminist, the feminist would dislike them as well which shows by how hostile they were.

@austinsmith2808 10 месяцев назад

@@an-meboth sides are terminally online. They both suck

@clarkkent4665 10 месяцев назад

"Not being feminist means you want women to be paid less"

@HughMungousPC 10 месяцев назад

She didn't say that at all. She said she got back-lash when wanting to be a house wife. I think misrepresenting what someone says is a terminally online take.

@sarahh3320 Год назад

As a woman, this discussion was exhausting.

@anaiahevans1540 Год назад

Yes, like Isabella just didnt know how ignorant she is

@Lightguardian_HOH Год назад

@@anaiahevans1540 She wasn't ignorant what are you talking about?

@buttercup4929hl Год назад

@@anaiahevans1540 as a woman, Isabella spoke facts.

@anaiahevans1540 Год назад

@@Lightguardian_HOH watch it again and see what i mean

@gigachad1021 Год назад

Dont matter woman moment

@gabriellagalli8564 5 месяцев назад

The fact that Arielle said that the friend of Riki that she shouldn’t have “spread her legs” to not get pregnant, the fact that Riki had to say that her friend was r*ped was a bombshell, Arielle should’ve thought a bit longer before making those comments

@camoply 5 месяцев назад

when was this in the video? i cant find it :((((

@gabriellagalli8564 5 месяцев назад

@@camoply 31:25

@Pidatha 3 месяца назад

Why is it a "bombshell"? If you consented to sèx, it's perfectly reasonable to say you need to take responsibility for the resulting pregnancy. It's an entirely different scenario in case of assault

@Pidatha 3 месяца назад

@Ah_Be That's Where we disagree. The innocent child shouldn't have to pay with its life for your choice to have sèx

@nasrinnski 3 месяца назад

Weird that she had to bring up her transwoman friend to garner sympathy and then demeaning someone else's friend story lol

@SarahEmmi-qk6eg 6 месяцев назад

She ate her up w the “we heard a lot about your mother what about you” like yessss thank u

@whitneypickle Год назад

Why do people think that you can't both be a feminist AND a stay at home mom? You can be both.

@barbymadison878 Год назад

Because it's all about appeasing the male ego

@whitneypickle Год назад

@@barbymadison878 what is?

@wiseguy240Winston Год назад

@Barby Madison No it isn't, that seems like something a woman would say if she's insecure about how others will look at her. Nike wants to be a housewife of her own choice or are you going to ignore and disregard a fellow woman's words when they don't match up with your idea of feminism? 🤔

@fearfullywonderfullymade691 Год назад

Because a lot of feminist are hostile towards women who value traditional feminine roles

@whitneypickle Год назад

@@fearfullywonderfullymade691 when women are forced to be stay at home moms, then yeah, it is an issue. I am absolutely not traditional at all, but I CHOOSE to stay home with my son. It's where I'm happiest. But if I wanted to work outside of the home, that's what I would do. If I had a high paying job and my husband wanted to stay home, I'd support that. It's about equality and the freedom to choose in my family what we want to do. My husband doesn't rule the roost.

@anaclaraferreira3734 9 месяцев назад

All of Nike's points were made out of her childhood trauma... Her problem isn't with feminism, it's with the parents that weren't there for her

@aiya7325 6 месяцев назад

literally, its all personal issues..

@MP-il8ys 6 месяцев назад

Exactly, it seemed like she should be talking to a therapist about this rather than projecting her issues with her mom onto the entire movement.

@Lemmeknowlemmeknow 6 месяцев назад

I don’t see this at all

@CKS475 6 месяцев назад

Exactly

@chewycherries 6 месяцев назад

@@Lemmeknowlemmeknow One example, she said in the video that she was very conflicted when it came to abortion because externally, her mother was very pro abortion/choice, but at the same time, she told her daughters that they should never get one

@rarazida7198 6 месяцев назад

“we heard a lot about your mom, but what about you?” GAGGED 😂😂😂

@greatapebroly Месяц назад

I AM A WOMAN

@mimitabiswas4534 6 месяцев назад

Riki is so eloquent and calm, she was literally so calm throughout and never went for personal attacks

@satisfiedatheist8762 5 месяцев назад

Dogma is still dogma even when it is articulately expressed

@mimitabiswas4534 5 месяцев назад

@@satisfiedatheist8762 she didn't have any extreme dogma unlike the antis, and like I said she didn't come for anybody

@satisfiedatheist8762 5 месяцев назад

You might want to watch this again. She asserts (hence dogma) there is no scientist who would agree with Male and Female no being a reality which is complete nonsense. She won’t accept any suggestion that many credible peer review studies contradict her (and she doesn’t countenance the idea that she is misinterpreting what she might have read). There are of course many instances of Intersex but that does not mean male and female don’t exist and that sex is a spectrum - they are simply other, albeit very rare, chromosomal arrangements.

@mimitabiswas4534 5 месяцев назад

@@satisfiedatheist8762 give me timestamp

@satisfiedatheist8762 5 месяцев назад

Around 39 mins I think

@sea_of_love Год назад

when isabella said "i don't care!" and all the feminists were like "of course, you don't have to care" and she almost didn't get it ☠

@Noone-qy8eh 11 месяцев назад

It wasn't almost, it was she didn't get it entirely

@Kitsunekone 11 месяцев назад

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but are you saying she has white privilege?

@sea_of_love 11 месяцев назад

@@Kitsunekone yeah and just the privilege of being an upper middle class woman in america

@Kitsunekone 11 месяцев назад

@@sea_of_love Gotcha.

@zainjal26 11 месяцев назад

@@sea_of_lovewhat’s white prívelage? Black privelage is breaking laws and being called victim

@SalvagedCreativity Год назад

I've never felt the producers feel as uncomfortable as they were in this episode.

@TeddyHeartSweet Год назад

@MrMissplaced Год назад

100%

@nicholassimmons9066 Год назад

you’re only saying that cuz your trans. lol they probably loved this.

@ongakira Год назад

they were probably more irritated than uncomfortable

@bellez6425 Год назад

yeah, i've never heard them have to tell a person to let the other one speak

@poopi69loopi 6 месяцев назад

I’m a feminist and I don’t think the definition of feminism has ever changed, I think people have changed their perspectives on it and get misinformed and misinterpreted a lot

@jessicasousa9301 4 месяца назад

nah, it was a group of feminists who didn’t understand the whole point of equal rights. If that happen within the movement, then don’t act like it was the people outside of the movement who misunderstood everything. 😉

@VideoGamesAndTheWorld 4 месяца назад

Many feminists have caused the feminist movement to be seen as a negative with all the buzzwords like "manspreading" and "mansplaining". Not to mention many of them are the kind to hate both men and boys.

@HeathKirby1 3 месяца назад

Feminism is not about equality anymore

@dannielle.. 3 месяца назад

i agree. the definition of feminism has not changed. people have just been misinformed and are not understanding the difference between feminism and what people claim to be feminism

@smithsunleashed 3 месяца назад

@@jessicasousa9301maybe there were more vocal and louder, but that doesn’t mean you generalize all feminist as radical feminists

@vespera9115 7 месяцев назад

From Nigeria but you don't believe in the patriarchy? That's CRAZY.

@meritvickie4550 4 месяца назад

Seriously, she needs a lot of therapy. Sounds like she just want to distance herself from whatever identity her mother held

@nasrinnski 3 месяца назад

Same country with the rise of fgm, forced marriages... 😭

@thatboygio8843 2 месяца назад

She was a lawyer and a ceo of her own company and your talking about patriarchy 😂

@Bungycb 2 месяца назад

Trans women aren’t real women

@imrankb022 2 месяца назад

Define patriarchy

@angie-bn2ue Год назад

Every child deserves a parent but not every parent deserves a child, remember that.

@maybeme8783 Год назад

yea, 100%, I often feel sad for the children (of future children) of some people I know

@jess6558 Год назад

What a great saying

@jess6558 Год назад

This should be apart of the foster care systems values

@AJ-lm5dl Год назад

You become a parent the moment you conceive a child in your womb

@imanis.h.8431 Год назад

We all remember because this saying is everywhere on youtube it’s annoying. On every video where a child is harmed / let down by the parents the top comment is always this exact quote.

@emyvrosales Год назад

It's incredible how everything and nothing was said at the same time.

@j-us-t_be-in-g Год назад

😅😅😅🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂

@passion2177 Год назад

My thoughts exactly 😂😂😂

@justina2320 Год назад

I don't think these types of videos are meant to reach a conclusion or any mutual agreement lol, Everyone is just stating their opinion and moving on.

@dalzielholder5184 Год назад

My thought to a T.

@burningbothwicks Год назад

@@justina2320 It doesn’t really matter much if they agree with each other in the end, it’s the bit where everything was “what if’s” and no facts, crappy debate

@autumnrose9655 5 месяцев назад

My idea of feminism is choice. You have the choice to be a CEO; you have the choice of being a stay at home mom. You get to decide what you do, which is why I believe everyone should be a feminist. We all deserve the choice of what we want to do in life.

@sarahnewton2550 3 месяца назад

Don’t guys have that choice too?

@autumnrose9655 3 месяца назад

@@sarahnewton2550 yes. Everyone deserves the choice, no matter their race, gender, or any of that.

@benjamincharlton1388 3 месяца назад

I think in a way, it also gives men more choices, as it breaks down a patriarchal structure, it opens up more options, such as stay at home dad, while being shunned less :]

@LindaMerritt-tk7tu 3 месяца назад

@@benjamincharlton1388true and not to feel bad about his choice.

@LindaMerritt-tk7tu 3 месяца назад

@@sarahnewton2550how the one blamed her mother for tearing down and emasculating her father.

@doubledead1413 3 месяца назад

Isabella: white women privilege, if I don’t experience it, it doesn’t exist Nike: mommy issues Arielle: just wants beef Jill: white women privilege pt 2

@Bungycb 2 месяца назад

Trans women aren’t real women

@Zyrock Месяц назад

The feminists: daddy issues, deep rooted hatred towards men

@zv3495 14 дней назад

lool, perfect

@kyrietracy8967 Год назад

isabella is the perfect example of believing that if it doesn’t affect her it doesn’t exist.

@Alan_the_Red Год назад

Nope plenty of people live without this nonsense. As they should. We should all be more like Isabella.

@bald_flop8063 Год назад

She’s so ignorant it was infuriating. She lives in a very thick bubble

@kenkar7181 Год назад

@@Alan_the_Red guys are always trying to stick their nose in women’s business . Bye

@Changed.User100 Год назад

Shes the only woman I respected during the whole conversation

@assilehasan954 Год назад

When she said "I don't even think that I'm not being represented even in ads, I don't care" that's when I knew she had 0 regard for other people's feelings and views. And there's no way you can convince someone so inherently selfish otherwise.

@sloth7939 Год назад

As a teen girl this was horrible to witness.

@HughMungousPC 10 месяцев назад

How horrible, I'm so sad you have to be a female. It must be so awful. lmao

@andjelamisic3070 10 месяцев назад

as a teen girl, this was helpful and it helped me learn a lot more that my parents and school thought me

@HughMungousPC 10 месяцев назад

@@andjelamisic3070 What exactly did it teach you?

@kaitietheukulelelady5645 10 месяцев назад

A discussion?

@andjelamisic3070 10 месяцев назад

@@HughMungousPC It taught me a lot, actually, I wanna call myself a feminist and it helps educate me on certain topics like the inherently racist one... i live in a very sheltered home, and i didn't realize some of these thing

@outstandingdogmarron2051 5 месяцев назад

"you could go back over there if you really wanted to" the look she gave her

@kamrynferguson6258 2 месяца назад

isabella throughout this WHOLE episode was very much “if i don’t see it and if it doesn’t negatively effect my life it’s not happening. it’s not a big deal” vibes and that was WILD especially coming from teen parents

@bubblemoons Год назад

Isabella is a clear example of the "it doesn't exists because it hasn't happened to me" mentality.

@ladygogie8887 Год назад

exactly

@cancelled_user Год назад

Just like when feminists try to prove "oppression" by "well, it once happened to me that ...."

@mytypeshi Год назад

EXACTLY, her privilege is so unsettling to see

@woodywu931 Год назад

that's just a classic example of internally referenced person vs externally referenced person.

@juandelahoz4577 Год назад

I can't, she exudes privilege with every word she speaks

@Aylaahh Год назад

this video really demonstrates how you could never win an argument against ignorant people lol

@averyisaiah1 Год назад

Yes modern feminists are very ignorant.

@jimbob7382 Год назад

Completely

@Death-999 Год назад

You can definitely win arguments against ignorant people, they usually stop responding or block you, I've had many feminists do that when they realise they have no chance against my big brain when all they bring are their incorrect regurgitated quotes. Let's look at these people, they're feminists so sure they're correct they'll go on a show and debate and what do they bring "they're a clump of cells", like how little debate have they ever done that they would STILL use that pathetic quote? Everyone is a clump of cells. That's the immediate thing everyone would say to that, you don't even need to be anti feminist to figure that out, yet they still say it, it's pathetic lol

@charlotteparker2051 Год назад

Literally

@jimbob7382 Год назад

@@Death-999 so we as human beings are equivalent to something which doesn’t even have the ability to form a thought are you vegan ? Have you ever walked on grass because essentially it’s the same thing a baby is completely different to a foetus if you don’t agree you haven’t been to school and if you have go back

@hithere3121 5 месяцев назад

I will never understand when people say if you had sex and you got pregnant you shouldn’t have an abortion because it’s your choice to have sex (31:36). It gives off the same energy as someone being in a car crash and someone else saying “it was your choice to get in the car”. Not everyone has sex in hopes of getting pregnant.

@latonyanewsome0 5 месяцев назад

Two completely things. You've made no argument.

@nasrinnski 3 месяца назад

Also, sex involve two person, pregnancy involve one. Sex can be safe, while ppl often underestimate the side of pregnancies for all different women

@VanessaBrown-de3bx 3 месяца назад

That’s a completely different situation and if you have sex you know the consequences of it.

@hithere3121 3 месяца назад

@@VanessaBrown-de3bx the way i see it is that you know the potential consequences of getting in a car is being involved in an accident. im also not talking about just having sex, i mean when people are trying to avoid getting pregnant and they use contraceptives. there’s still a chance of pregnancy even if that’s not the goal, just like theres a chance of being in a car accident even if that’s not the goal. i just wanted to clarify how i see it, but i’d love to hear your perspective on it if you are willing to share :)

@TomMcKayBlocksCriticsWhatAJoke 3 месяца назад

I think the argument is that you shouldn’t end a life that was consensually conceived.

@user-cv7rh4km8w 4 месяца назад

This didnt give what the "male feminists vs. male antifeminist" gave, this just made me sad. Seeing women actively fighting against feminism is so much more counterproductive to the movement, than men actively fighting against feminism.

@saszablaze1 Месяц назад

why?

@jin8982 28 дней назад

Why are you commenting if you're not watching the video

@rysayshello Год назад

It’s so weird how the anti-feminists are mentioning that you can’t be feminist and be a housewife at the same time 😭

@yadig876 Год назад

Well 90% of feminism is about empowering women to not need men. So most of the ideology goes directly against being a great housewife. Not rocket science

@TheDeeman25 Год назад

Why is it weird? I mean the average feminist would recoil at the thought of being a housewife. I believe feminism gives women the choice to do either but in modern practice that’s not how it seems to shake out.

@katmoonshine145 Год назад

@@TheDeeman25 i do know a lot of feminists who like the idea

@andysali6884 Год назад

@@TheDeeman25 nah, the average true feminist would wanna let women do what they choose, even if they choose to be a stay at home mother or housewife

@rhaegarmcavoy1692 Год назад

@@katmoonshine145 I doubt you say the truth on that.

@anushkavalentine880 Год назад

I’d love to see male feminist VS female anti feminist

@rubyfransen2522 Год назад

they already did this, it’s on their page

@justleon721 Год назад

@@rubyfransen2522 No they didn't. The one they did was males on both sides.

@chittaphonlee10no Год назад

But that’s a bit silly, the female anti feminist will just use the same “argument” over and over again; “you’re not a woman, I am”

@khaleeesi Год назад

@@chittaphonlee10noperfect summation

@Glambutfirstcoffee Год назад

@@chittaphonlee10no No. That is what radical feminists use

@ellisadams2663 4 месяца назад

not enough people are talking about how incredibly well spoken Deja is

@starcasters 4 месяца назад

"you can't be connected and sexually attracted to someone's brain" guess that erases my existence then lmaoo

@ada1312 4 месяца назад

Yes! as a woman that is pan I was like????? I dont care What someones gender is, i dont care if they are cis or trans, i like the person, literally their personality so u could say their brain

@raynabev9632 4 месяца назад

so glad someone said this. i was literally sitting here thinking “someone needs to explain pan and asexuality to this woman”

@Kattieninja 3 месяца назад

Literally same. I'm not attracted to bodies, I'm attracted to the souls inside them. I'm 10000% more likely to get turned on by someone showing deep intellectualism from a deep conversation, than looking at someone.

@The_Memorial 3 месяца назад

@@ada1312so you are attracted to the person. Their appearance, character, personality. You are bisexual. You are not attracted to a brain. You don’t see a 🧠 and be like look at that juicy ouchy pinky brain

@dannielle.. 3 месяца назад

literally i think she’s lost on the difference between sex and gender r

@delarame5786 Год назад

I'm an Iranian woman. Contrary to Arielle's opinion, feminists did stand up for us! Iraninan feminists! Feminism is not limited to american/western people

@tallard666 Год назад

Western feminists and western women generally, have spent 40 years silencing all support for Iranian women fighting religious oppression (under the false "Islamophobia). Only since last year, when men also became victims, did western women stand up. And I'm not talking about pockets of support, such as among atheists, I'm talking about generalised support, like 1000s in the streets of Toronto. We can thank men for dying, because when it's only women dying, the world just don't care.

@fabulousdarya9701 Год назад

Yes!! I'm also an Iranian woman and was taken aback by that comment

@AbuLuLu313 Год назад

They did so by cutting their hair for photo ops. Lol anyway that was embarrassing af

@Yasi_nzi Год назад

Exactly! As an Iranian girl living in Iran, I also have to add that since 1980, transgender individuals were officially recognized by the government! On top of that, they receive financial assistance being provided by the government for the sex reassignment surgery. The government also covers the cost of birth certificate and any other certificate change. I wish people like Arielle will learn to at least do a simple search before running their ignorant mouth.

@Teagod77 Год назад

You bit

@pinkland5302 9 месяцев назад

ISABELLA IS SO RIDICULOUS HAHAHA. shes like “well if i was never affected by it, it never existed”

@justicedoesntexist1919 8 месяцев назад

major mean girl vibe. and guess who mean girls appease and bully?

@misanthrophex 7 месяцев назад

@@justicedoesntexist1919 you think she's mean? try knowing that 2+2=4, but we live in a "truth" where 2+2= anything but 4, and if you try to claim that 2+2 = 4, you're gonna be in trouble.

@thomasallisonstabler3478 5 месяцев назад

The opposite of that is also true. There are those on the feminist side that say, because it happened to me, it’s all that exist and they apply their blanket to it.

@Localyellowasian 3 месяца назад

@@misanthrophexsrry but i don’t get it 😭

@RockSmithStudio 2 месяца назад

Found the future cat owner 😂

@lauryn_talks 5 месяцев назад

I'm glad that Jill loves motherhood, but it's frustrating to see her and other people insinuate that because they're having an overall great experience, other people's voices are null and void.

@jacobtrang833 5 месяцев назад

"im a mother of 12 years I know all the hardships of motherhood" hasnt even had to deal with a teenage kid yet

@8rynFarley 2 месяца назад

just because the child isnt fully grown, doesnt AT ALL mean she doesn't know the hardships of being a mother and the future hardships ahead of her. are you a mother?

@Bungycb 2 месяца назад

Trans women aren’t real women

@antoooa8664 Месяц назад

Does that make her a lier?

@thegarfieldtavius Месяц назад

No and u are illiterate.

@banananannananaa 6 дней назад

@@8rynFarley she hasn't experienced the difficulties of fully raising a child yet, so yes, she does't know all the hardships of being a mother and/or a parent. let alone the fact,that she's like really priviliged so she'll never expierience most of those

@bunsenn5064 Год назад

I love how they kept accidentally circling back to the wrong topic every single time. I didn’t even know what was happening half the time.

@meg-od2bo Год назад

The anti feminists somehow made every single prompt about trans women

@pricesymonej Год назад

@@meg-od2bo because we can’t even begin to talk about woman’s issues if we can’t first define what a woman is. Bottom line.

@meg-od2bo Год назад

@@pricesymonej a woman’s an adult female

@pricesymonej Год назад

@@meg-od2bo I agree

@pricesymonej Год назад

@@meg-od2bo why yes, yes it is!

@augustvirgo26 Год назад

I honestly don’t think they will ever be any middle ground in feminism and anti-feminism

@nicopetri3533 Год назад

I think there could be if reasonable people were invited, but that doesn't generate content and drama. Look at all the Isabelle comments. She was only invited by production so we can rage in the comments.

@artisticbeautybyhanako6801 Год назад

Radical feminists who detest the devolution of modern feminism would beg to differ

@yes3858 Год назад

What is middle ground? Majority of people in USA and Europe believe in equal rights. Feminism has changed significantly in the past 50 years

@bubbashursh262 Год назад

Feminists aren’t very smart same with black movement it’s the same thing it separates us more than brings people together it segregates and excludes people

@Morrow45105 Год назад

Impossible to find middle ground when the topic is based in delusion

@finnzwemer957 5 месяцев назад

i find it kinda interesting how arielle looked towards her own group and the other group when she would step forward or not step forward for certain questions

@Urkako1234 4 месяца назад

The way I went HUH for 99 % of what the “antifeminists” said like it’s actually INSANE

@Zyrock Месяц назад

“Tell me ur 14, without telling me ur 14”

@ucouldnevah Месяц назад

@@Zyrocktell me you’re a Republican, without telling me you’re a Republican

@kanyasunhe 9 месяцев назад

Arielle wasn't there to debate she was there to talk AT people. She sat down, instantly asked a question that was nonsensical to the discussion at hand and then proceeded to interupt everyone every chance she got.

@xgoohx 8 месяцев назад

Literally!!!

@boobare5792 7 месяцев назад

She must have a hard time dealing with snowflakes.

@DaniDeFazio-jf5fz 7 месяцев назад

💯💯💯I literally am 2 minutes in and I ran to the comments because she already aggravated me!!! She IMMEDIATELY came in aggressive for no reason! Tryna argue not debate. Smh

@Olivia_b. 7 месяцев назад

@@DaniDeFazio-jf5fzEXACTLY

@bbrriaaanna 7 месяцев назад

2020 called they want their slang back . goofy ah@@boobare5792

@Jadenayeah Год назад

12:12 she did not just quote Marilyn Monroe on the patriarchy💀she was abused so much by men

@sumayyahadetunmbi4347 Год назад

yeah

@starzy154 Год назад

Like BFFR😤😤

@cassie6781 Год назад

Poor Marilyn, she can never get a break.

@kawaiidiamond7581 Год назад

Patriarchy only includes men ? To tell you patriarchy doesn't exist

@ziahgaines6166 3 месяца назад

I noticed how Arielle almost agrees with the feminist a couple times, and then looks back to see if the Antifeminist agree, and then changes her mind if they don’t agree. Thats follower behavior in my opinion

@foreverPriscilla 3 месяца назад

Isabella was insufferable.

@sadie7994 Месяц назад

She gives off Pearl energy

@kenziereyz 29 дней назад

REAL

@vasskallal5637 Год назад

damn this episode was insane seeing how much the host had to moderate the conversation

@wyattcole5452 Год назад

Didn’t even let the conversation have a basis. How are you supposed to talk about women and feminism when nobody knows what a woman is?

@Bocqurant Год назад

@@wyattcole5452 One of the first things Arielle asked was to define woman

@wyattcole5452 Год назад

@@Bocqurant and nobody answered is my point, the mediator said focus on the topic when the topic isn’t secure to everyone, so how can they stay in topic when the definition of woman is up in the air?

@yashicasaun Год назад

@@wyattcole5452 she did not let people speak lol

@wyattcole5452 Год назад

@@yashicasaun the moderator? Yea, when that question was asked she didn’t let People speak unless it was about what she said

@thats_a_lot_of_damage4525 Год назад

jubilee was FOUL for cutting off that amazing point; "if they don't have enough money to go get an abortion, what makes you think they'll have enough money to raise the kid." or smthg like that. that is an excellent point that i want answered by the other side.

@americasass3674 Год назад

Then don’t be having sex. You run the risk

@bingusdingus8239 Год назад

@@americasass3674 thats not exactly an option if someone is forced to...

@EdmundoAyarzagoitia Год назад

@@bingusdingus8239 The vast majority of cases aren’t due to rape

@bingusdingus8239 Год назад

@@EdmundoAyarzagoitia well it doesn't really matter because those people are out of luck in certain states now

@kaiti3289 Год назад

@@americasass3674 wow i wish that’s what the women who are r/ped against their will though of, thanks!

@laurahero8778 4 месяца назад

‘It’s a choice to be a housewife’ you can be that while being a *FEMINIST* too?!

@katiefineout4519 4 месяца назад

The white woman who said she doesn't care about representation. 🤦🏻‍♀️ 🤢

@Bungycb 2 месяца назад

Trans women aren’t real women

@isabellagalarza9116 Год назад

"You know, they (straight white males) don't want to leave their apartment or their house because they're so afraid of women." BFFR 💀

@hannahpoole6215 Год назад

@silentsolitude6570cry me a river

@lieutenantcolumbo114 Год назад

I'm white and i'm not scared of humans :) i'm scared of rats.

@amandapayet1421 Год назад

@Silent Solitude Why?

@AJ-lm5dl Год назад

@@hannahpoole6215 How empathetic and tolerant of you.

@gravemini3248 Год назад

But there genuinely are you’ll go on about Isabella being ignorant but that is also just ignorance

@ricklepick137 Год назад

I'd love to see this conversation outside of America

@Movedaccssss Год назад

As a German I’m on the Anti-Feminist side. The Feminist side is too obsessed with race.

@matuuscx Год назад

living in spain, i think this conversation would be harder to have just because i think i've met ONE woman here who's an antifeminist and only because she's a conspiracy theorist that thinks, for example, that my brother is autistic because he had vaccines

@SometimesSuicidal Год назад

I'd love to see a discussion between male feminists and female antifeminists. One hour of women telling men how men feel and men "defending" women. Pure entertainment for sure

@padlily2485 Год назад

@@matuuscx Most people in general wouldn’t describe themselves as feminists even if they believe men and women are equal

@angelasparza Год назад

Or have feminists from other countries to see the differences between their culture

@Idunno...... 4 месяца назад

I just love that when someone is starting to get a point across and starting to make sense they are ever so quickly to change the subject

@jaymeedizon4724 5 месяцев назад

this came out as feminists vs. those who don't understand feminism. we've been fighting for equal rights for so longgg and so much that hearing these anti feminists is not just hurtful but exhausting.

@ashleykimberly4012 2 месяца назад

Literally!!!!

@natalyavalasquez9121 2 месяца назад

It’s like the anti feminists say you live in the USA what “possible rights” are you missing besides common sense

@jdog8362 Год назад

One of my biggest pet peeves is getting interrupted and not being able to finish what I was saying. I would have lost it in every one of them.

@bubbashursh262 Год назад

😂🤣

@monikamalinowski Год назад

yes!! it's extremely disrespectful and if I was there they would've been yelled at because you need to let me FINISH my point before starting yours. You'd think adults could have healthy discourse but no, everytime there's confrontation and disagreements certain people become gradeschool kids again

@shana_sakai Год назад

YES!

@shana_sakai Год назад

@@monikamalinowski true

@_Izanamiyuki_ Год назад

Agreed!!! 💯

@aliceg8124 Год назад

I honestly feel like Arielle and Isabella made this discussion so hostile when it didn't have to be.

@dominiquebradley897 Год назад

They did…like they really felt the need to say how everything and everyone was wrong like they did NOT come here for “middle ground”

@nasien Год назад

Arielle was speaking the most facts, though

@nocturnalwolf7559 Год назад

It was needed.

@alexbernard6220 Год назад

@@avamacky2793I'm with you on they're tactics being overly aggressive, but to say that had no factual arguments, I mean come on bruh lol. It's OK to be wrong sometimes we can all learn from eachother, even progressives can calm it down a little lol

@coucoukiana Год назад

@@nasien ur a male. Sit this one out. Ur opinion isnt valid

@lindseydailey8147 3 месяца назад

Arielle just wanted to fight she wasn't there for a real conversation based on literally the first words out of her mouth and immediately trying to cut off their answer, absolutely not constructive and lost her points entirely because of it.

@rashirashi04 5 месяцев назад

Arielle was so combative and defensive during this whole debate when she didn't even have to be... like chill. I even agreed with some of her points but she overshadowed all that with her tone

@ohyechlo Год назад

when riki said “i shouldn’t have to tell you that story for you to understand that there are certain things that you have not experienced that oppress other people”🔥

@lieutenantcolumbo114 Год назад

"Patriarchy" as an oppressive and misogynistic system is a pure creation of late-sixties radical feminism. It does not exist as such and it is contradicted by evolutionary biology, history and anthropology, as long as one bases oneself on factual data and not on the deconstructivist ideology of gender studies. "Oppressive patriarchy" is a mystification that the following articles each explore in their own way. It must be said and said again: the victim paradigm according to which the history of male/female relations is part of a vertical relationship of "male domination" is an intellectual imposture and an ideological construction resulting from the radical feminism of the end of the 1990s. sixties. Prior to the 1960s, the concept of "patriarchy" did not exist.

@EdgarHernandez-uu4iw Год назад

Than by that logic they can’t speak up for poor women who get pregnant

@Donyalicious Год назад

@@EdgarHernandez-uu4iw what logic is that exactly…

@amandapayet1421 Год назад

Brainwashed by feminism lmao you pro feminists are so wrong. 😂

@ischl420 Год назад

@@EdgarHernandez-uu4iwwhat….

@elinapetrova9677 Год назад

The model-esque white woman saying how she doesn’t care about being represented after another woman just complained about not seeing diverse women in ads was gold. 😂

@FIREcrochethairstyles Год назад

Exactly! So clueless

@phoebescott6787 Год назад

Literally! Like she is not the one being underrepresented of course she wouldn't care 🤣

@alexharper7645 Год назад

@@phoebescott6787 🤣🤣 There’s way more then enough diversity in ads.

@ecstasy5022 Год назад

@@phoebescott6787 anyone with real life problems wouldn't care. caring about such silly things screams first world problems.

@shortstoriesforadults5192 Год назад

yall probably look like Shrek with this mindset

@jordaneee8587 2 месяца назад

I love the way Deja talks, she’s so well spoken.

@user-ek7tx7nt6v 6 месяцев назад

As someone who lived in the Middle East, Central Asia and Southeast Asia, I can say that the American feminists are sooo privileged and if they think they are genuine in their agenda they need to step up to help the women who are really struggling in less privileged places instead of fighting who should be able to show their chests.

@Gurlstfu44 6 месяцев назад

This needs to be seen, American women are so privileged and try to act like they’re oppressed. They have no idea what other females in different countries deal with. It’s so sad

@strawberryshortcake5505 5 месяцев назад

ikr. its utter insanity that we place so much emphasis on american feminism when there are so many other parts of the world where its still like the middle ages for women. why isnt it talked about enough?

@32.saibahelal21 4 месяца назад

@@strawberryshortcake5505it is. The men's video of feminist vs anti centred around dating while by women was based heavily on personal experiences. I truly felt like I wasted my time trying to understand their mind process because I can't, they live in a bubble of so-called problems and some people from both the groups sounded pretty indoctrined to me.

@GandalfOfRivia 4 месяца назад

It is normal that people primarily care about what they are closest to and most familiar with. Plus, the fact that it's not like Afghanistan doesn't mean there isn't still work to be done.

@sandboxlover2078 4 месяца назад

@@strawberryshortcake5505maybe because they are feminists living in America. They can’t and shouldn’t speak on issues they dont know about. It’s not fair to gaslight or dismiss people’s experiences because of the country they live in

@ichgo_desu Год назад

As an Iranian girl, what Arielle said wasn't true. Iranian men and women are standing for equality. But the dictatorial government is the issue

@LuciKaede Год назад

I interpeted her comment in a way like what are western feminists doing for Iranian fight for equality, but I may be wrong.. Either way, I really hope Iranian people win the fight and get their freedom back! Much love from Croatia!

@SmileG333 Год назад

She was talking about western feminist not supporting Iran.Although I'd still disagree with her because I did see a lot of western support unlike the case with french muslim women.

@arielle Год назад

Correct.

@noahfence6838 Год назад

@@LuciKaede They’re speaking up, talking about it, bringing light to the issues, and identifying the women who are actively fighting and have died doing so. What more can western women do? Physically go to Iran and beat up the government?

@dissident3227 Год назад

Feminists IN AMERICA don’t care

@kamiirene8503 Год назад

Isabella is so blinded by her own experience that she refuses to sympathize with people who actually face issues due to their identity

@whatisnext2955 Год назад

Shes proving a point and i think she knows how to get into ur head and take advantage.

@logicandemma8474 Год назад

This comment needs to elaborate more on what it's trying to say.

@foreverrocks7989 Год назад

She don't have to. The problem is the expectation to do so. Nobody is obligated to fit the mold of expectations set by others 😪

@turqussy Год назад

she thinks everybody was always equal and just want to fight. because yeah i always saw people as people not their race or gender or etc. but not everyone had been especially men in power hundreds of years ago. they saw anyone different from them and hurt them (all wars and genocides) and those people have been put down for years. so thats why we fight so everyone can be seen as equal its what we want. ignoring all that past abuse and dehumanizing events is ignorant.

@juliekennedy9891 Год назад

That happened on the other side as well--especially when Jill was speaking about how she felt when pregnant.

@themediocreprodigy377 6 месяцев назад

18:42 I applaud the camera person and director. Powerful choice of photography.

@ServantOfLordKrishna. 21 день назад

I wanna see female misogynists vs male feminists

@rileythornhill8191 Год назад

“Feminism is anything you want it to be” 22:33. This is the problem. People are fighting over a term that means something completely different to each individual.

@DONSMOKEPAPI Год назад

Exactly, it has become an empty word, an excuse to avoid accountability and consequences

@whosminou Год назад

agreed

@person-ty7jy Год назад

I believe the reason why this statement is so broad is mostly because feminism's definition is broad in itself. Feminism is the concept that men and women should be equal. At first, the fight was mostly about rights, but as our society evolved, it has become a fight for equal opportunities (especially career, society and safety opportunities) and lately we did devolve in human rights with roe v wade, so it's important to keep feminism alive and keep evolving, not devolving.

@-caspo- Год назад

Absolutely. I find that a lot of disagreements come from differences in definitions. If you are going to have a serious conversation about a certain topic, you have to define the terms related to that topic, otherwise you can just go in circles all day.

@emmyaram7001 Год назад

I agree. A lot of the arguments were about things that most people fundamentally agree on, just with a lack of understanding. But generally, there are two ways I see it defined; an equality movement focused on correcting inequalities for women, and ideas generally held by people who are feminists. I believe the feminists viewed the word more as the former definition and the anti-feminists viewed the word as the latter.

@isithermit Год назад

Arielle is a type of person to debate people who’s on her side

@narlywaves2371 Год назад

😂😂😂😭

@AverageGamerNub-qf6sp Год назад

Arielle just came outta nowhere packin balls to the walls

@Elypsen Год назад

and there's nothing wrong with that :D

@christinepoppy3277 Год назад

I like Arielle, even though I disagree with her on a lot, but I think she came in obsessed with wanting to fight about trans issues and assume that any liberal has forgotten what a biological woman is

@casandraldg Год назад

@@AverageGamerNub-qf6spmy jaw dropped when she started talking

@lealannin2289 6 месяцев назад

arielle using each prompt as an opportunity to be transphobic is absolutely appalling she just. kept. doing. it.

@sisuluca13 5 месяцев назад

Honestly she was just a W

@4kteli 5 месяцев назад

men cannot become women just be saying they are.

@crypkid2276 5 месяцев назад

@@sisuluca13W for weirdo. An obsessed weirdo who has so much hatred in her heart that she needs to bring up her distain for a group of people who has done nothing wrong but just exist and advocating for their basic rights into every conversation.

@AstroMaja22 5 месяцев назад

@@sisuluca13 wtf dif trans people do to you?

@milleniomc983 5 месяцев назад

@@AstroMaja22Lie to others about who they REALLY are, pretending they're something they're not just because they feel lust over Love. Choosing they're opinion over Truth.. conditioning children to choose feelings over logic, opinions over facts. Staining the image of what a real WOMAN is and causing psychological damage to themselves and others around them. Use their feelings to get their way... now causing Heterosexuals to lose privileges of adoption and other freedoms simply because it doesn't support their agenda. 🙂🙃🙂

@sn1per501 24 дня назад

The fact that one woman who asked to “define a woman.” Then went on a rant to how you can’t be a woman if there’s an ‘idea’ in your head that you are a woman and then said that she has a trans friend is crazy to me. Why is your friend a woman to you but other people aren’t?

@realahiga 24 дня назад

Just because she's friends with one, doesn't mean that it's a real woman lmao

@ashleywilliams4665 Год назад

that girl really just interrupted their conversation on race to basically say “I don’t care, it doesn’t affect me so let’s stop talking about it”

@metothemoon1227 Год назад

In Europe and USA we almost all have the same rights. Industrialists, royal families, politicians are the most privileged. Feminism and wokism are societal political games to divide the people.

@blafgirl Год назад

I am black and I don't care. Identity politics is toxic.

@erikpolk2962 Год назад

@blafgirl it doesn't matter until it does.

@starryk79 Год назад

i think we would be in a better society if we would stop to assume stuff about people just based on their skin colour. So if you enter a room and you feel uncomfortable just because the people in that room have a different skin colour...maybe that is kind of the problem. It does make sense to be most comfortable if we see persons similar to us in the room and i think we won't ever fully get rid of that. But we should try and stop putting all kind of assumptions onto it. So let's try and work on equal conditions but don't put people into skin colour boxes.

@erikpolk2962 Год назад

@@starryk79 I hear and respect that. But it's deeper than just skin color. For my grandmother and mother and myself. It's not the color, it's what the color has represented. There is apprehension that is justified and I think until we understand the " why's" and come to terms with these things without being dismissive or treating people experiences as trivial, this will continue.

@tiahr1939 Год назад

Arielle making every single prompt a trans issue and not allowing anyone to speak really shows why she was there..

@reberrabon_bon Год назад

Even after we were done she just would NOT stop

@Emerance_ Год назад

@controversial_7 Год назад

But it has to be taken that side. Trans is the next female

@salaamboss5961 Год назад

No riki was not allowing anyone to speak. And she kept speaking and was so wrong about so many things Edit: who is here after Olympics banned transgenders from competitions in female track?

@jamesmichael9341 Год назад

Feminists are loud, masculine and annoying. Gotta speak over them to get a point across. Being judged for being white will cause you to speak louder and more. Just like I would expect if I judged a black person for being black.

@oOoroshoOo 6 месяцев назад

I hadn't thought about it that way, but it's true, in certain situations where males are involved. your safety is hugely dependent on whether they like you or not (and it doesnt even have to be romatically)

@user-qh4lc2ex6z 3 месяца назад

I love Deja, I feel like she was incredible well spoken and respectful

@Sophiepa3568 Год назад

“Men stay in their apartments because they are scared of women.” I am LOST FOR WORDS

@audreyoutland1868 Год назад

Ikr😭😭 I wish that was true 🤞🤞

@james3876 Год назад

Pretty much why I built my home gym

@sarahprosecco Год назад

@@james3876 😂 especially with all those 'ew...omg why are you looking at my butt cheeks hanging out the bottom of my gym shorts(aka hotpants) you pervert!' catch-a-creep videos.

@metothemoon1227 Год назад

@Audrey Outland Terrible mistake on the contrary women and men complement each other and should not hate and divide and even less be afraid of each other. If so, it's called the fall of a civilization.

@Gayredheadbitch94 Год назад

Men suffer from the patriarchy, but not the same way women do

@audreyortman9238 Год назад

I miss when they would have everyone go in a circle and introduce themselves, it’s nice to know a little about the group members beforehand

@mars2366 Год назад

they probs do it off camera now

@reberrabon_bon Год назад

@@mars2366 we did not

@len-1768 Год назад

@@reberrabon_bon That's a shame, but since Jill is the host of PragerU Kids and therefore a hardcore rightist ideologue, it might be for the best.

@Sn00ksx Год назад

this probably sways peoples opinions when interacting with each other in the circle as what you do doesnt really matter, its about your opinions

@boringstuff1542 Год назад

1) It sways other peoples opinion when interacting with each-other and the audience's opinions 2) Takes up time and isn't relevant 3) People's personal lives can be used as a cudgel against them in the conversation

@catemoana 4 месяца назад

the best one so far... this episode was such an eye opener. thank you

@astralalyx7442 6 месяцев назад

The moment the one lady goes "define a woman" and then interrupts the person trying to respond I knew I wasn't gonna be able to sit through this. What a backwards way to discuss/debate 😭

@elise6802 2 месяца назад

Literally it had nothing to do w the prompt, she fully came on this js to be transphobic

@1badmamadoc Год назад

"We've heard a lot about your mom, but what about you" had me crying !!

@lunareclipse6359 Год назад

Yeah looks like she's dealing with a mother wound and is taking it out on the movement because she sees it as the vice that took her mom away

@theelolicious9302 Год назад

@@lunareclipse6359 you’ve explained it really well

@pixie158 Год назад

@@lunareclipse6359 yes exactly

@tatsunithelennyking2540 Год назад

@@theelolicious9302 Y'all are insane lol. RU-vid therapists everywhere in the comment sections. It's insane how the world has turned out.

@michellebueso6238 Год назад

@@tatsunithelennyking2540 Everyone can see it duhhhh people are not playing therapists it is very evident

@xeelie_ Год назад

its sad how the statement "its rational for women to fear men" is the one where almost all of them agreed

@basedblackbeard4456 Год назад

Common women L

@estrigo_tigo552 Год назад

@@basedblackbeard4456 can you explain as to why ?

@Planeman516 Год назад

It’s rational for everyone to fear everyone

@xeelie_ Год назад

@@basedblackbeard4456 nobody asked

@amandapayet1421 Год назад

Progressive vs conservative, women vs men, atheist vs religious, black vs white, pro vs anti . The globalists games to divide us.

@samayhey 6 месяцев назад

thank you Deja 🙂

@javimelecio 4 месяца назад

love the embrace at the end after 50 minutes of heated, yet civil debate

@416lina3 Год назад

„youre just traumatized enough for me to understand that maybe things are hard“ describes modern society perfectly in one sentence

@ninjawizard3865 Год назад

Trauma? What trauma? Too many people say they are traumatized because of an event that they weren't even a part of. What the what?

@richandcomplextapestry Год назад

@@ninjawizard3865 Rape is traumatising wth is wrong with you

@ninjawizard3865 Год назад

@@richandcomplextapestry where did I say anything about rape?

@SourceChan Год назад

Not really, it describes ancient history much better and describes modern society the least of all other times, the sentence that perfectly summarizes modern society is "I'm at the top of the victim hierarchy so I deserve the most while putting the least effort into better myself out of all groups of people".

@ninjawizard3865 Год назад

@@SourceChan that sounds more accurate.

@Mooodyyhhh Год назад

Why do Americans think that it’s “the only place ON EARTH” where you can achieve your goals ?!?? Seriously that statement made me think Jill was delusional

@goodenergi Год назад

Seriously. Exactly what the US teaches Americans. It’s so bizarre.

@mikepictor Год назад

the delusion of American exceptionalism.

@SvobodovaEva Год назад

I was surprised that this sentence wasn’t challenged by anyone because it’s so ignorant and problematic on so many levels.

@acapellaseto Год назад

30:10

@Farsideofthemoon22 Год назад

She was they use it to not accept that we deserve better conditions that allow people to thrive and it’s all on you which fine but it’s egotistical and not the best for humanity ❤😂

@srinidhimadurai5299 3 месяца назад

The prompt "there is no wrong reason to get an abortion" is very interesting because, coming from India, female foeticide is a huge problem. Sex selective abortions are a thing. And I'm surprised they aren't addressing that.

@djjacek76 12 дней назад

I was thinking about this too

@seanburroughs3977 16 дней назад

It's amazing how everybody has an issue with The patriarch but nobody can explain or have a common definition of what the patriarch is.

@rage_filled_care2309 Год назад

"You're just traumatized enough for me to understand" wow that really hit, I was never able to express why people accept some but not others, now wow-someone put it into words

@basedblackbeard4456 Год назад

What does that mean exactly?

@dominicmicocodecoco Год назад

Trauma is like a Harvard graduation certificate now

@BruhWhyDidTheyChangeThis Год назад

@@dominicmicocodecoco Not really, it’s probably more saying that unless you’ve experienced it you can’t understand, however you can but you’re just not trying to.

@dominicmicocodecoco Год назад

@@BruhWhyDidTheyChangeThis understand what? Elaborate pls

@alal2192 Год назад

@@dominicmicocodecoco understand how someone can feel

@ximenazertuche Год назад

Nike really needs to go to therapy to resolve her issues with her mom

@nonjabulomangoro1871 Год назад

And stop blaming her mom for her father's inadequacies

@ElectricPansies Год назад

Her logic that her mother was too strong so her dad had to become a couch potato really confused me.

@wildninjaturtle6715 Год назад

Way to show your racism, gtfo of here with your white condescending privilege

@FieryMaQ Год назад

@@ElectricPansies how? She’s saying her Mom emasculated her Dad.

@pixie158 Год назад

definitely

@melaniecorona8634 5 месяцев назад

What was the white lady in the red shirt on 😭😭 she kept yapping and it would go nowhere lol

@terrytrouser_1166 4 месяца назад

In this episode, Deja was the Kevin of the situation. I've really aprreciated kevin being so calm in the last ep, and I di the same here with Deja.

@brynnevan741 26 дней назад

She truly wasn’t. Look at her face throughout the entire video. Anything she disagreed with, she would have a nasty face towards. You have to be able to hold your internal feelings, not show them on your face.

@cezarab5236 Год назад

Nike is simply calling her childhood trauma "feminism" and hating on it. It's not "feminism's" fault for her not being able to have a relationship, it's just more convenient than blaming her parents.

@kind2423 Год назад

Exactly, take accountability for your actions. She's blaming feminism for her downfalls in life

@cancelled_user Год назад

LoL, it's like blaming men and "the patriarchy" for all your problems 😂

@fsf471 Год назад

To be fair, the feminists call their trauma Patriarchy

@johnkofi-theultimatelife1315 Год назад

She is stuck with her mom's life trauma of wanting to be a feminist while having a huge cultural and generational dissonance about those issues. She tried.

@Cornerstanding Год назад

Yup

@annajaskova99 Год назад

As a European, the statement that America is the ONLY place on Earth where you can work and achieve based on your merit is so funny to me. This sentence alone is the kind of arrogance Jill and Isabella are executing during the whole video

@Faith12996 Год назад

I hate this argument so much. I'm child of immigrants that came to America and who recognized the benefits of living in the US. But I also have family who moved to Canada and the UK who are equally successful. I know of many people who moved from the US to different countries in Africa and Asia and are also successful. Like the US has its moments but it also has a lot of shitty issues that impede success.

@tbreezyt9488 Год назад

@@Faith12996 I think what she should have said was 1st world countries in general which ironically are the only countries where feminism is super strong

@cynthiarios1572 Год назад

Agree

@tobiaslawrence8928 Год назад

My thoughts exactly tell that to all the homeless people or kids living and growing up in poverty.

@yasmina.2148 Год назад

I think she meant that everyone has the ability to succeed when they come to America or if they’re in America. But idk lol. I’m an immigrant to the US and I’ve worked hard to get where I am and I think that’s kinda of what she meant 😅

@hyunjinie_lixie_chanie4514 19 дней назад

"feminism is evolving and changing" yeah, for the absolute worst, and this is me saying this as a woman.

@krakoomkk2319 7 месяцев назад

I could listen to Deja and Riki talk for hours

@EdwardMDL 9 месяцев назад

I never felt unequal and therefore there is no inequality has to be the funniest take I've ever heard

@tiffanycandlish8566 4 месяца назад

She solved inequality of all kinds

@HelloNirvana5 Год назад

Feminism, in my opinion, doesn’t mean you have to be a CEO or you shouldn’t be a stay at home mom. It means you should have the option to be either or. Discussions like this are important to have to better understand others’ mindsets. Great episode👍🏽

@barbrothers2 Год назад

you do have that option. and have had it for over 20 years now.

@HelloNirvana5 Год назад

@@barbrothers2 I know that but obviously some of the women in the video thought otherwise. And is not just that. What about abortion? Why don’t people just mind their business and focus on themselves?

@kaineshigaraki5253 Год назад

Ideally, but that’s not always the narrative. [>

@deee3950 Год назад

But that is NOT what feminists say. And FEMINISTS DO talk down to women without traditional “burn the candle at both ends” jobs

@pianokeysandcraniotomies3365 Год назад

@@russ7009 Are you saying we should aim for equity rather than equality?

@Manhattan384 2 месяца назад

26:41 gotta be out of a comedy sketch, this scene made me burst out laughing😂

@giselleinfante1381 3 месяца назад

Great conversations , felt like I wanted to be part of the convo too 😊😊

@oolgadiez Год назад

it makes me so sad that this discussion was so aggressive. we really need to learn to listen to each other more. society won’t be able to stand unless we go back to the centre and learn to speak to each other

@narlywaves2371 Год назад

I've seen this politely done too and it's more cringe. Sometimes we have to let people get out how they really feel.

@TheDeeman25 Год назад

After watching the full video, the prompt about whether or not only women should make decisions about their bodies falls comically flat. If all these people here were on a board to help make laws, nothing would pass. Ever.

@rachelb1502 Год назад

@@narlywaves2371 and let's be honest, it's always a bit more entertaining when there's a bit of drama lol

@Caleb17-ym6pq 11 месяцев назад

It makes me sad that the gobbledygook the feminists (more like pseudo-feminists) were crapping out is actually considered valid.

@sm1purplmurderedme583 11 месяцев назад

it was only arielle who was aggressive and angry lol i felt she was gonna fight them

@jordanwright2030 Год назад

"we need to stay on topic with the prompt" I've never heard them say that phrase so many times before on this series

@roseashido3016 Год назад

Cause they can’t stay in topic at all 😭😭

@bigfishysmallpond Год назад

Did they say that to one side more?

@jordanwright2030 Год назад

@@bigfishysmallpond I'm not sure. Do you think that?

@dojihope5304 6 месяцев назад

This is probably the most chaotic video I've ever watched

@justcallmed933 4 месяца назад

Arielle's position of "I'm a lesbian and I have a trans friend" to get away with her transphobic comments is so disgusting

@nanaa428 Год назад

As a middle eastern woman, Arielle bringing up the Iran issue made my soul shrivel. No feminists are speaking up about the issue in Iran? Does she think the Irani women there actively fighting against their government are anti feminist? The phrase Zan, Zendegi, Azadi literally translates to "women, life, freedom" and she claims its not a feminist issue?

@moonliqx2211 Год назад

IK Airelle got on time nerves every time she spoke especially with that Iran issue

@bocastannn2733 Год назад

@@andsoitbegins_there’s many trans women you would never assume are transgender. If they’re going through the word looking like women they’ll be treated like women. Do you think people only discriminate against women at birth???

@AliA-nz1zc Год назад

Nobody cares

@UniqueArtsCostcoPicasso Год назад

Arielle is a hard pill to swallow but I think that the point is valid in the sense that many feminists in places like the States don't care about issues facing women in places like Iran that are definitely more hostile toward them. There are certainly feminists in Iran taking care of business.