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Are Men Falling Behind? Male Feminists vs Female Antifeminists | Middle Ground 

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0:00 intro
0:25 Women have more privileges today than men
9:58 Men are falling behind in society
22:36 Women should also be drafted into the military
27:23 Female sex workers should be more respected
33:36 Men should take birth control
38:55 Being a mother is the most valuable thing a woman can do
44:48 Men need to be masculine to keep their families safe
50:30 The differences between men and women should be celebrated

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Комментарии : 20 тыс.   
@jubilee
@jubilee Год назад
So what did you think of this episode of Middle Ground? Did anyone surprise you?
@mirrored464
@mirrored464 Год назад
Yes there was a female on the male part
@lanaxv
@lanaxv Год назад
stop making these
@tiannatippins3562
@tiannatippins3562 Год назад
Janelle was very pick me to me I thought she would be more middle ground
@_aoe
@_aoe Год назад
@@lanaxv why? It gives perspective and educates. Helps you make out your own opinions and values.
@SavannahSchrader
@SavannahSchrader Год назад
Yes, it surprised me how these women were so apathetic and ignorant to the struggles of others.
@iridiumm
@iridiumm Год назад
Jubilee never fails to find at least one person that’s infuriating in every episode 💀
@CrankyBarista
@CrankyBarista Год назад
I wonder of who you refer??? 🤔 😂😂😂
@Hintvision
@Hintvision Год назад
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂omg
@metr0_retr074
@metr0_retr074 Год назад
You gotta be talking about the women in the Red Dress lol
@app6984
@app6984 Год назад
It makes better tv. They obviously picked them.
@TheRandomMuffinMan
@TheRandomMuffinMan Год назад
Honestly, I just want them to exclude the crazies in these talks since they really devalue the conversation.
@christinepoppy3277
@christinepoppy3277 Год назад
I don’t understand why people think a woman’s brain falls out of her head because she feels an emotion
@alex47_in_downtown18
@alex47_in_downtown18 Год назад
Logic and reason falls out when emotion comes in the way
@YourSensei999
@YourSensei999 Год назад
Fr, like when that lady in red brought up the military thingy it made no sense. First of all, every gender is capable of feeling fear from stuff like that. Second of all, we all have a brain, so we all can learn how u r supposed to act in such situations.
@eliseph
@eliseph Год назад
yeah, every study ever that has been conducted on womens vs mens brains as shown that women are smarter, more logical, develop their frontal lobes way sooner in puberty and young adulthood than men do. also i dont understand why an emotional nurturing president is bad?? shouldnt you americans vote for a president who cares for the people and makes choices more based on morals, logic and empathy rather than cold brutal competition and war?
@MayaMickaMicak
@MayaMickaMicak Год назад
Because a lot of people don't count anger as an emotion, men can seem less emotional, but that's not true at all
@treacherousjslither6920
@treacherousjslither6920 Год назад
​@@MayaMickaMicak Anger is mos def an emotion. Men and women both can be very emotional. Men are simply socially conditioned to not cry a lot. A little is acceptable. A lot is not. Whereas women are conditioned to cry. Women learn at a young age that their tears have power. Just my observations.
@annak-h8194
@annak-h8194 6 месяцев назад
I literally don't understand how Janelle can say she won't take birth control because she doesn't want to put something unnatural in her body but gets giant breast implants in
@kiyyaakayy
@kiyyaakayy 5 месяцев назад
LMFAOOOO
@butterytomatoes747
@butterytomatoes747 5 месяцев назад
EXACTLY!!! Like we totally couldn't tell you've had artificial work done
@hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii5
@hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii5 5 месяцев назад
her whole face 😭
@MrFlynny94
@MrFlynny94 5 месяцев назад
Breast implants sit on the surface of the body? Birth control plays with your insides.
@jaeshasway
@jaeshasway 5 месяцев назад
Not just B implants, tanning, fillers, and who knows what else.
@sarasmart9263
@sarasmart9263 6 месяцев назад
Some of them are confusing "womens" privilege with pretty privileged.
@v.xien.
@v.xien. 3 месяца назад
Ong
@ferwoodz
@ferwoodz 2 месяца назад
!😊
@musicplug1730
@musicplug1730 2 месяца назад
Yea all those women that survived the titanic were gorgeous
@FlurryJoe
@FlurryJoe Месяц назад
There is no difference. Are there men with "pretty" privilege?
@Dani-in7fi
@Dani-in7fi Месяц назад
Yesss ​@@FlurryJoe
@_studiofrancesca
@_studiofrancesca Год назад
“why don’t you get a vasectomy?” “i did” i’m dead that was such an amazing moment
@milomoody891
@milomoody891 Год назад
Fr! My jaw dropped and I had to pause the video and playback that moment 😂
@whatever16jb17
@whatever16jb17 Год назад
he’s an icon
@sarawithnoh9449
@sarawithnoh9449 Год назад
STOP, THAT PART WAS SO UNBELIEVABLY SATISFYING!!!!!! THE LOOK ON HIS FACE TOO MY DUDE WAS ABOUT TO END HER WHOLE CAREER
@sekcbeast6713
@sekcbeast6713 Год назад
That guy didn't seem happy to me.
@TheTomboy345
@TheTomboy345 Год назад
And he became hotter when he said it.
@averyestephan
@averyestephan Год назад
“having kids is very financially difficult” “i’m fine” HOW IGNORANT could you possibly be
@BozoLifts
@BozoLifts Год назад
FOR REAL
@preasia731
@preasia731 Год назад
omg so annoying
@Seizuresalade
@Seizuresalade Год назад
Like they genuinely think if everyone had the same opportunities they would still be homeless and starving etc... So brain dead
@tre20tyu
@tre20tyu 11 месяцев назад
That’s what I’m saying!!!
@doobieddooo
@doobieddooo 11 месяцев назад
That is their whole argument. These anti-feminist women don’t think about other women. They’re like, “I’m fine”, what are these other women complaining about?
@notyourred
@notyourred 5 месяцев назад
Janelle : women are inherently loving and nurturing and caring Also Janelle : proceeds to be the most hateful and condescending and unreasonable
@tessanewson6556
@tessanewson6556 5 месяцев назад
I despise that stereotype it's so traditional. Like we are in the 21st century now!!
@Itsmesaucekayuchibi
@Itsmesaucekayuchibi 4 месяца назад
Other than the leader part, I don’t think she said anything offensive. Her points were valid.
@Itsmesaucekayuchibi
@Itsmesaucekayuchibi 4 месяца назад
@@tessanewson6556stereotypes are based on facts and we need traditional roles to keep the society functioning and thriving
@Doomer_Optimist
@Doomer_Optimist 4 месяца назад
​@@Itsmesaucekayuchibi no one attacked her points in this thread, although I certainly could. it's more like her demeanor was incredibly smug and distasteful.
@kurt5079
@kurt5079 4 месяца назад
@@tessanewson6556 It is not a stereotype it is a generality. As with any generality there are exceptions but it is also true and backed up by the social science and psychoanalytical data/research spanning for decades.
@kellyjokanovich3939
@kellyjokanovich3939 6 месяцев назад
“I don’t put pressure on my son to be straight. I just tell him he has to be attracted to women.” Make it make sense Jenelle 🙃
@ThePestilentDefiler
@ThePestilentDefiler 3 месяца назад
Like biology intended. Dont normalize homosexuality.
@rayanneferreira8949
@rayanneferreira8949 3 месяца назад
Telling your son to be attracted to a woman is the same as putting pressure on him to be straight
@christopherestrada2474
@christopherestrada2474 3 месяца назад
I thought the LGBTQ were welcoming of all orientations? What if she’s fine with her son to be attracted to trans-women ? That’s not straight, that’s pansexual.
@maaalooo_1062
@maaalooo_1062 2 месяца назад
*should… makes a difference
@quandale3311
@quandale3311 2 месяца назад
Well it does, sexuality refers to sex, not gender, which are different according to liberal ideology.
@inesie6926
@inesie6926 Год назад
Janelle saying “one person speak at a time” after repeatedly cutting everyone off to speak or argue is hilarious.
@oopsibrokethecow
@oopsibrokethecow Год назад
What she really means is "Everyone listen to me and me only."
@braydendukes6633
@braydendukes6633 Год назад
Thought the same thing
@MinifigNewsguy
@MinifigNewsguy Год назад
it's insulting for an "anti-feminist" to show so much boobs and little intelligence, whether you're a feminist or not.
@tahirihfudu4086
@tahirihfudu4086 Год назад
she's annoying
@americanhomeownerwithajob6940
Why didn't this panel put any real men on it?
@lallovesu484
@lallovesu484 Год назад
janelle saying “women have hot bodies, they have men naturally coming to men but men have to build bodies” while having silicones??? the audacity
@ericx6969
@ericx6969 Год назад
🤣
@dusscode
@dusscode Год назад
I didn't see her boasting about her attractiveness.
@fyre4354
@fyre4354 Год назад
she wants to talk about trans ppl getting gender affirming care like those implants aren't gender affirming to her as a women
@jaidenkara6931
@jaidenkara6931 Год назад
YESSS
@Laenerysp
@Laenerysp Год назад
She was sex trafficked so it might not be her choice tho
@amberwalls4852
@amberwalls4852 6 месяцев назад
when janelle said being poor is a "mental state"🤩🤩 it really just showed how disconnected she is
@tessanewson6556
@tessanewson6556 5 месяцев назад
Literally thought the same thing! In sociology college courses you are taught about the myth of "poor culture"
@al-imranadore1182
@al-imranadore1182 5 месяцев назад
Being poor in a first world countries is a just a mental state.
@whitepicklejuice
@whitepicklejuice 5 месяцев назад
How is it "disconnect" when she herself came out of some of the shittiest circumstances a person could live through? Speaking for the way life is in the U.S., poverty could become a mindset if you convince yourself you will be in poverty forever, and do nothing to bring yourself out of it. That is 100% a mindset. It's odd however that you won't give her the proper credit and benefit of the doubt considering she has changed her situation for the better.
@kwandozu
@kwandozu 4 месяца назад
​​Lol she is disconnected because she is egging on poor people who cannot afford children to reproduce, merely because she got away with having a child​ she had to depend on others to raise,@@whitepicklejuice
@mamba4ever113
@mamba4ever113 4 месяца назад
Being poor is a mindset. You can be poor but have a plan to escape it. If you have no plan and no one in your family does either...you have a poor persons mindset. It's not that hard to understand if you think a lil bit harder.
@draytonwilliamsYT
@draytonwilliamsYT 6 месяцев назад
Massive respect to Mason and his patience. Being told you’re not the person you are has to be so infuriating but he was so collected. Major major props.
@puliduspulls2070
@puliduspulls2070 6 месяцев назад
Her patience ! It’s a her not a he, her! she shouldn’t be frustrated if that’s the truth she is a he r
@Iamvictor78
@Iamvictor78 6 месяцев назад
😂
@dru8432
@dru8432 6 месяцев назад
@@puliduspulls2070If hes happy why not let him do him
@manbeckl
@manbeckl 6 месяцев назад
@@puliduspulls2070🙄
@manbeckl
@manbeckl 6 месяцев назад
And Janelle had this creepy smile on her face while she was telling him.
@artemisia770
@artemisia770 Год назад
Lmfao at Janelle asking John whether he wants his daughter to grow up in a world full of individuality and acceptance and John’s just like…..yes?
@abitlost4087
@abitlost4087 Год назад
Real
@jewel8439
@jewel8439 Год назад
She was a s*x traffick victim who grew up without freedom, even now she’s too busy raising her son to research anything properly. I noticed it when she said “yeah I know the definition I googled it just today.” I just feel sorry for her, and y’all should really study how the traffickers brainwash their victims to be exactly like her. We are all products of our environment, and unfortunately we are all raised in different environments, so it’s hard to understand each other
@CrankyBarista
@CrankyBarista Год назад
Well someone who has surgically and cosmetically changed every natural apperance of her body obviously knows nothing of self acceptance.
@bigbiafra5288
@bigbiafra5288 Год назад
@@jewel8439 That doesn't really make her wrong, you just don't agree with her. She was trafficked but still understands that there are only men and women and that we each have our roles means something.
@notlacin4961
@notlacin4961 Год назад
@@CrankyBarista How can you assume that it was after she was trafficked or wtv for her to do that? Maybe her trafficker encouraged her to do that to make her seem more appealing etc.
@peasantsgalore
@peasantsgalore Год назад
janelle saying she wouldn’t put birth control in her body while having two very obvious implants is sending me
@liastorm795
@liastorm795 Год назад
😂😂😂😂
@Alison2436
@Alison2436 Год назад
😂😂😂 so true!
@happy153ful
@happy153ful Год назад
I was thinking that too but then she said she was sex trafficking so it might not have been her choice entirely. I am giving the benefit of the doubt.
@sharkisradiant6686
@sharkisradiant6686 Год назад
LMAOO
@Tlahuiltezcatl
@Tlahuiltezcatl Год назад
😂🔥🤣🔥🔥🔥 she's a bimbo
@maui_travels_
@maui_travels_ 6 месяцев назад
I giggled when Jenelle said ''I don't believe in putting anything that alters my body''...for obvious reasons
@thanerdchi
@thanerdchi Месяц назад
did u not hear when she said she was trafficked??
@supercriceto
@supercriceto Месяц назад
Maybe they're natural. Ahem.
@ryandavidson675
@ryandavidson675 Месяц назад
@@thanerdchi That's more thank likely a lie. She has made this claim hundreds of times and has offered virtually no evidence to back it up.
@CyclingAMP
@CyclingAMP Месяц назад
​@@thanerdchi it's still funny 😂😂
@grandAlef443angel
@grandAlef443angel 29 дней назад
@@CyclingAMP not at all.
@joclourey5118
@joclourey5118 4 месяца назад
“I don’t think trans women should be a part of the feminist movement” while actively not associating with the feminist movement is craaazzyyy lmao
@shirazsharivar8536
@shirazsharivar8536 4 месяца назад
Ikr!!! like you are literally calling yourself an anti feminist, but you also wanna decide who is in the opposite side?
@joclourey5118
@joclourey5118 4 месяца назад
@@shirazsharivar8536 unbelievable lol like you disqualified yourself from this convo from the jump
@oryxisatthefront8338
@oryxisatthefront8338 Месяц назад
Tbf trans wome aren’t women so I get her point
@thatswhatshesssaid
@thatswhatshesssaid Месяц назад
THIS
@byeee811
@byeee811 Месяц назад
Crazy cause why tf do she care or does she not support because she feels like some people shouldn’t be part of that group is why she wont support it
@jessicawilliams3849
@jessicawilliams3849 Год назад
Janelle’s whole premise is “I don’t agree with feminism bc I don’t think women are smart/capable enough to have these rights”. I think it reflects a lot on how weak she sees herself. She projects her insecurities and failings onto other women
@ripdito
@ripdito Год назад
this!
@rattaface02
@rattaface02 Год назад
Beautifully said 🙌🏽
@hi-yo1kq
@hi-yo1kq Год назад
Could not have been described better. It’s exactly this
@rudycastillo4150
@rudycastillo4150 Год назад
Misogyny 😂
@samanthaplacide2267
@samanthaplacide2267 Год назад
no truly. like she said things women feel that i couldn’t even relate to and genuinely confused me lol.
@ciennabohmer9767
@ciennabohmer9767 Год назад
as soon as she said it was a privilege to be sexualized by men she lost me
@louievasquez2381
@louievasquez2381 Год назад
Nobody can ever sexualize a women unless the women is doing it herself. If u walk around showing ur body, u will attract all kinds of attentions.
@katherinel4122
@katherinel4122 Год назад
yeah she's an embarrassment to our gender :/
@orenmontgomery8250
@orenmontgomery8250 Год назад
If you replace the word "sexualized" with "desired," maybe that would help? She's basically saying the one who is in possession of what another person wants is inherently in a strong position.
@monsieurtyrell9652
@monsieurtyrell9652 Год назад
@@orenmontgomery8250 if my grandma had wheels she would've been a bike
@berryjamminsun
@berryjamminsun Год назад
​@@monsieurtyrell9652 ☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️
@jonellereyes6293
@jonellereyes6293 29 дней назад
Men have started wars over their EMOTIONS about a woman.
@AvionBlackstone
@AvionBlackstone 5 месяцев назад
"We are too emotional!" No, Janelle. *you* are too emotional.
@josephsmiley1
@josephsmiley1 Месяц назад
Women are emotional.
@HCR2_addict
@HCR2_addict Месяц назад
​@@josephsmiley1Thank you dear human for being logical
@Kamille-Millie
@Kamille-Millie 28 дней назад
@@HCR2_addict Men are also emotional.
@HCR2_addict
@HCR2_addict 28 дней назад
@@Kamille-Millie women are way more tho
@janetappmeyer7483
@janetappmeyer7483 27 дней назад
@@josephsmiley1 Down the street from where I live, is a very large building that imprisons several hundred men that lost all logic when they couldn't control their emotions.
@JustKiccinIt
@JustKiccinIt Год назад
Janelle doesn’t sound like she’s anti-feminist she sounds like she’s anti-women
@plutosn0taplanet
@plutosn0taplanet Год назад
100%
@umusty619
@umusty619 Год назад
Pro-plastic
@nailahdawkins
@nailahdawkins Год назад
@@umusty619 🤣🤣🤣
@rachybaby72
@rachybaby72 Год назад
No, she's not anti-herself...
@mitch103178
@mitch103178 Год назад
@@rachybaby72 Yes, she is.
@Mr26muel
@Mr26muel Год назад
Janelle: I love the masculine energy we have here Mason: I'm trans Janelle: You have feminine energy 🙃
@adr1annn129
@adr1annn129 Год назад
THIS
@FangeekJenna
@FangeekJenna Год назад
Thisss if he had not said he was trans she wouldn't have a damn clue!
@peterjimenez1075
@peterjimenez1075 Год назад
This is toxic feminism
@ocrafting05
@ocrafting05 Год назад
@@peterjimenez1075 wdym
@alexh6767
@alexh6767 Год назад
This is why you don't tell people 😬
@swagman7704
@swagman7704 3 месяца назад
11:30 how does her answer switch so much? 😭 before he said he was trans, janelle greeted them all by saying they were ‘amazing men’ and she loved the ‘masculine energy’, but goes to say she sees only feminine energy and sees a woman???? miss girl 😭
@priyankasantosh6542
@priyankasantosh6542 6 месяцев назад
Hey Mason, if you're reading this comment, I had no effing clue you were trans before you said it. And I'm so glad you managed to be so polite with Janelle, I'd have to control my punches. But you should know you look great and have a wonderful voice. More power to you!
@JullianLue
@JullianLue 4 месяца назад
SAAAAMMMMEEEE
@Josef_Stylin
@Josef_Stylin 4 месяца назад
That's a woman
@JullianLue
@JullianLue 4 месяца назад
@@Josef_Stylin YOU'RE SO WEIRD YOUR GREAT GRANDKIDS WILL HATE U IN THE FUTURE...
@elliot..5920
@elliot..5920 4 месяца назад
@@Josef_Stylincry
@kayliannemartinez1178
@kayliannemartinez1178 15 дней назад
@@Josef_Stylin you are also a woman Josef.
@naomim.7220
@naomim.7220 11 месяцев назад
"Women are too emotional" as if men dont go starting wars because someone insulted their wig
@Idkanymore567
@Idkanymore567 11 месяцев назад
Valid
@klaudinegarcia8932
@klaudinegarcia8932 10 месяцев назад
Or their wife cheated and eloped with another guy! (the movie Troy) 😂
@arrrrr1689
@arrrrr1689 10 месяцев назад
Lmao🤣🤣which war is started by that
@yarpenzigrin1893
@yarpenzigrin1893 10 месяцев назад
Women leaders statistically start wars more often than men.
@KingDiamondBones
@KingDiamondBones 10 месяцев назад
no wars aren't started by insults their is many reasons like religion and conquest like WW2 germany wanted to annex every country and get big some other reasons is to destablize and money no war has been based on emotions
@alessandra281
@alessandra281 Год назад
Somebody tell Jennelle that saying "no disrespect" does not justify saying something disrespectful. Props to Mason for remaining calm while his identity was continuously invalidated.
@Pikawarps
@Pikawarps Год назад
Her*
@Dwight_
@Dwight_ Год назад
@@Pikawarps saying your opinion and own belief is not disrespectful. saying no disrespect is a way of saying i disagree but i don want to offend you and ill respect you.
@clue8569
@clue8569 Год назад
@@Pikawarps His*
@colleenruf7139
@colleenruf7139 Год назад
There’s no way she would’ve said “I see you as a woman” if Mason hadn’t explained his backstory first. “I could sense your feminine energy” yeah I don’t believe her.
@romiaxel9306
@romiaxel9306 Год назад
Literally, it was so disgusting how transphobic Jennelle was, truly apalling omfg
@Jim-of-Rohan
@Jim-of-Rohan 6 месяцев назад
What a nice bunch of dudes. Daniel is the sweetest chad I've ever seen. John is a super thoughtful parent. Alex puts his money where his mouth is. Mason's got just all the patience in the world.
@NathanXYX.
@NathanXYX. 4 месяца назад
and they spread the most disgusting ideology of 2024
@Itsmesaucekayuchibi
@Itsmesaucekayuchibi 4 месяца назад
The women (except jenelle) too were very well spoken, patient and factually informed
@teobryksy5315
@teobryksy5315 2 месяца назад
​@@Itsmesaucekayuchibibut no one's here taking away from the women
@StanDaMan4487
@StanDaMan4487 Месяц назад
Normies needs to stop using the word "Chad"
@airtrack9540
@airtrack9540 26 дней назад
@@Itsmesaucekayuchibi “having kids is very financially difficult” “i’m fine”
@jaclynd7342
@jaclynd7342 5 месяцев назад
Janelle has some serious ingrained misogyny. From what she's shared in this video, particularly the detail about being sex trafficked for 10 years, she's likely experienced 10 years of emotional abuse, and has been manipulated and falsely "liberated" into these beliefs. It would be great to see her experience true genuine respect from inside and out, she's been so manipulated into this "thing" that she seems to feel is her only true self, fulfilling her worth the only way she knows how. Like wearing prison bars for a crown. There's so much more to life and identity than the confinements you're in, Janelle. I hope you find your way.
@dropkickbunny
@dropkickbunny Год назад
Janelle saying "poor is a mentality" says everything you need to know about her opinions.
@masculineleadership
@masculineleadership Год назад
It literally is
@miacarter8740
@miacarter8740 Год назад
@@masculineleadership well your username is masculine leadership so I know everything I need to know about you now😂
@BurntToast44242
@BurntToast44242 Год назад
I don't like her, but she does have a point. Being broke is having no money and being in a state of financial crisis. Being "poor" is a mentality you see in a lot of people. College students are broke b/c of debt. The NEET who stay's in their mom's basement playing LoL is poor.
@hmmmmmm6901
@hmmmmmm6901 Год назад
@@BurntToast44242 especially if you’re in a first world country
@shane-bl4jk
@shane-bl4jk Год назад
​@@miacarter8740 ....your name says alot about you, bub.
@friederikegrunberg7536
@friederikegrunberg7536 Год назад
Janelle: "I don't believe in taking anything that alters my body" Also Janelle: has had plastic surgery done
@arixmc5520
@arixmc5520 10 месяцев назад
Came looking for this exact comment
@jonmelon
@jonmelon 10 месяцев назад
She meant her hormones not her physical body
@HudaaJMalek
@HudaaJMalek 10 месяцев назад
I mean you could argue that it was a product of her circumstances since she said that she was in sex work before
@voqz6667
@voqz6667 10 месяцев назад
@@jonmelon excuse me? Are hormones used on your astral projection?
@Amateur_Pianist_472
@Amateur_Pianist_472 10 месяцев назад
@@HudaaJMalekwow an anti feminist sex worker… she’s also very opinionated.
@graceellen7984
@graceellen7984 6 месяцев назад
“ i don’t pressure I just tell him” Ya real clear Jenelle
@manekineko111
@manekineko111 6 месяцев назад
What lacks from their discussion is that BEAUTIFUL women are privileged, not all women.
@Mikedread876
@Mikedread876 Месяц назад
It's not hard to be attractive as a woman. Just drink water, work out somewhat regularly, and wash your butt.
@01Meow01
@01Meow01 Месяц назад
@@Mikedread876are u talking abt… basic hygiene???? Basic hygiene that is accessible to everyone????
@Mikedread876
@Mikedread876 Месяц назад
@01Meow01 yes, but yet still many women cannot seem to pull of being attractive. Hairy armpits, dressing like a hobo, overweight on average...the comment here proves it.
@manekineko111
@manekineko111 Месяц назад
@@Mikedread876 sure buddy... what about face proportions?
@jamesmcdonnell2455
@jamesmcdonnell2455 23 дня назад
False. The sentencing disparity between men and women, is larger than the disparity between black and white. Do you think all female criminals just happen to be beautiful?
@karoliinakilpelainen3325
@karoliinakilpelainen3325 Год назад
If Jennelle thinks women are too emotional and illogigal then why would anyone listen to her talking points? She’s obviously just talking from emotion
@owl3650
@owl3650 Год назад
😂
@coraalllllll
@coraalllllll Год назад
the self conflict is crazy. When she’s arguing with herself does she listen to her sexist opinions? Or no because they came from a woman so they can’t possibly be logical
@dianael.
@dianael. Год назад
I cant imagine how much she suffers from self hate in her life
@leak3699
@leak3699 Год назад
I literally thought the same
@tnago916
@tnago916 Год назад
The irony 😭😭😭.
@MySaraMarie
@MySaraMarie Год назад
Anger is an emotion. I repeat: ANGER IS AN EMOTION
@theonewhosthere
@theonewhosthere Год назад
@@e.m.8094 okay..?
@yobbbu
@yobbbu Год назад
@@e.m.8094 ??
@aymanardo1322
@aymanardo1322 Год назад
Jo mama is a women
@warriorstrength6797
@warriorstrength6797 Год назад
Men have to get angry just as much as a woman should.
@LateNightChess
@LateNightChess Год назад
Go make me a sandwich
@crissyc9831
@crissyc9831 6 месяцев назад
What surprises me is how these women don't see how masculine and aggressive they come across. They can't see how they are exactly like the women they're criticizing?
@zalodelsolar3366
@zalodelsolar3366 2 месяца назад
Now imagine feminist women, they are literally men
@skaughtsman
@skaughtsman 27 дней назад
I don't think they're criticizing being assertive. They're criticizing the ideology.
@terrasmith2707
@terrasmith2707 5 месяцев назад
“All women are doted on and treated better from the time they’re young” wow, I’m not even a feminist and I still think that was the stupidest statement ever made on RU-vid.
@skatexius1710
@skatexius1710 Год назад
The woman in red is unbearable to listen to, but I do (kinda) agree on one thing with her - women LIKE HER should definitely not be in positions of power and leadership. She is so judgemental, close minded and completely disrespectful to anyone others personal experience. Kudos to everyone for managing to uphold a conversation with her :D
@carinocarino4009
@carinocarino4009 Год назад
you are so open minded that you dont tolerate anything other than your opinion
@skatexius1710
@skatexius1710 Год назад
​@@carinocarino4009 Thank you so much for your opinion, I didnt think I was open minded at all...I appreciate your words :)
@swatisaini6447
@swatisaini6447 Год назад
@@skatexius1710 disagree! Her dress is orange colour not red
@sjdess
@sjdess Год назад
Yeah maybe she believes that women are too illogical and emotional because she herself is. It's just you, lady!
@skatexius1710
@skatexius1710 Год назад
@@swatisaini6447 Hehehe 😛I might be colourblind, so I'll take your word for it :D
@purplelightwolf741
@purplelightwolf741 Год назад
Jennelle was an embarrassment. Everyone else was so level, thoughtful and respectful. She just wanted to fight with everyone about things she didn't agree with, and shift the conversation away from the topic to things she wanted to fight about.
@i7ven
@i7ven Год назад
She's fighting for mens rights, but by doing that she's bringing the other half of men down
@bishbosh4815
@bishbosh4815 Год назад
They always have someone like that
@damage_inc86425
@damage_inc86425 Год назад
​@@i7ven Very well said, Seth!
@miss-nomer
@miss-nomer Год назад
I honestly thought Jenelle was a trans woman.
@Stillchannel22
@Stillchannel22 Год назад
I think all the anti feminist were insanely rude, abrupt and dimensioning to everyone else’s opinion. They didn’t respect anyone’s option and came to argue, not debate.
@khh6801
@khh6801 6 месяцев назад
My constant awe and support for the people who are literally victim to things like transphobia and other forms of discrimination and still manage to keep their cool. As tough as these are to watch, they’re really necessary. Talking always wins over shouting.
@toobakhanani8775
@toobakhanani8775 6 месяцев назад
I have a solution. Stick with what nature chose for you.
@MadaraUchiha-.._
@MadaraUchiha-.._ 5 месяцев назад
shouting always wins because the people talking will just get their voice muted over the ones shouting
@mamagherbear7082
@mamagherbear7082 3 месяца назад
@@toobakhanani8775 I have another solution. Stop being a twat.
@benjaminlemoine11
@benjaminlemoine11 Месяц назад
Just deal with it. You make it surprisingly far in life if you can tolerate all the stupidity around you and just be patient, no matter the person.
@foireur117
@foireur117 25 дней назад
Using correct grammar is not transphobic.
@username_kk2177
@username_kk2177 6 месяцев назад
I like Amala a lot, she was very rational and really considerate of other views. Smartest one there by far.
@HashNub
@HashNub 2 месяца назад
Same. I enjoy watching her channel. Being a former liberal, she draws from her previous experiences and can relate topics between both sides of a problem/question, so she's great at playing the devil's advocate while still disagreeing with a side.
@aligoeswest
@aligoeswest Год назад
Felt like Jenelle held the group back from more meaningful conversations
@sloanes_edits
@sloanes_edits Год назад
Exactly, she didn’t giving her side much attention and efforts towards the conversation because she was selfish and talked over people
@gayfield420
@gayfield420 Год назад
she also seemed like she was held back several grades in school
@anastasia-fr1gn
@anastasia-fr1gn Год назад
Yeah she didn’t let the others speak.
@Lynnessanovember
@Lynnessanovember Год назад
I agree can we have a redo
@cocolezlie
@cocolezlie Год назад
Yes!! Everyone was so articulate except for Janelle and Kaylee- their arguments were mostly based on delusion. When the other women and the feminists talked it was so much more impactful
@chiaramassa2754
@chiaramassa2754 Год назад
Jenelle is the reason why the saying "When the idiots become confident, the world is in danger" exists.
@georgiana1147
@georgiana1147 Год назад
couldn't have said it better
@inesarif8497
@inesarif8497 Год назад
She really bought nothing beneficial to this conversation, the prompter had to tell her twice to let others talk. 😂
@yeseniamendoza5844
@yeseniamendoza5844 Год назад
Yup.
@Random-sk6hm
@Random-sk6hm Год назад
FR
@atlantis6855
@atlantis6855 Год назад
They picked some of the worst women to represent the women haha
@Alexandrasscott
@Alexandrasscott 4 месяца назад
Mason is just a beautiful soul 🥹 the people close to him are very lucky
@jenni3924
@jenni3924 6 месяцев назад
“i don’t believe in anything that alters my body”…..okay sureeee janelle LMAOOOOO
@katgrace3966
@katgrace3966 9 месяцев назад
Janelle: "Men are under a lot of pressure." Also Janelle: "I tell my son that he HAS to only like woman."
@markusmath3421
@markusmath3421 9 месяцев назад
based
@jcdenton7914
@jcdenton7914 8 месяцев назад
She was simultaneously an anti femminist saying redpill stuff while also spewing the woke nonsense of blaming cishet white men for all her problems in an argument with Destiny.
@MissZellers
@MissZellers 8 месяцев назад
She definitely doesn’t have any « feminine » pressure to end up with so many surgeries… 🙄
@YaveCole
@YaveCole 8 месяцев назад
Yeah that's a lot of pressure, almost unreasonable levels of pressure. I mean kids in the lithium mines don't even have close to that amount of pressure. Just let everyone be is my moto
@inmyjoe
@inmyjoe 8 месяцев назад
That woman is so insecure it’s sad
@AlanaGuez
@AlanaGuez Год назад
"I don't believe in taking anything that alters my body" having multiple obvious surgeries is WILD
@-PiNKSYRUP
@-PiNKSYRUP 9 месяцев назад
​@@cheeling794😭😭🤣 SAME
@biggooba6706
@biggooba6706 9 месяцев назад
whats your IQ LMAO
@gabevive71
@gabevive71 8 месяцев назад
Well, she said she was trafficed for years, so idk if it was her choice, but if it was, yeah, kinda hippopotamus lol (hypocritical)
@_dnlcee
@_dnlcee 7 месяцев назад
That's not how I understood it. Things that can change your hormones are more permanent and can be dangerous it's not so easily removed unlike silicone.
@dewdew80
@dewdew80 6 месяцев назад
@@gabevive71 didn't watch the video after concluding I'd be too annoyed...why did they get the opinion of someone so highly traumatized? Seems like a bad idea.
@niaroseagreste
@niaroseagreste 5 месяцев назад
Janelle shaming mason for getting a transitioning surgery is so ironic coming from someone who looks like an alien at this point.
@virgobutcaye
@virgobutcaye 5 месяцев назад
exactly.. i dont like shaming ppl for botched surgeries but her surgery is.. botched
@niaroseagreste
@niaroseagreste 5 месяцев назад
@@virgobutcaye I feel kinda bad for her I mean I'm sure that she did it for male validation considering her statements.
@terencemayers6568
@terencemayers6568 Месяц назад
You bunch of racist 😒
@jamesmcdonnell2455
@jamesmcdonnell2455 23 дня назад
​@@virgobutcayewhat if you found out that the surgery was forced upon her while she was being trafficked? Sure one may assume that if that was the case, she would have it reversed, but there's no guarantee. I'm not saying this is what happened. But I will point out the true irony in how you don't actually have any problems with her insulting people over getting plastic surgery, you just have a problem with her target.
@virgobutcaye
@virgobutcaye 23 дня назад
@@jamesmcdonnell2455 no, i have a problem with her insulting anyone over having any kind of plastic surgery. especially since its extremely hypocritical coming from her.
@maxikhani235
@maxikhani235 5 месяцев назад
“I don’t like anything that alters my body” says Janelle with a serious face
@Kaiteevasey
@Kaiteevasey Год назад
I find it interesting that Daniel, the buff guy, actually portrays more femininity than anyone else on that stage. Janelle, as much as she believes she is super feminine, displays a lot of masculine energy.
@Ghostinaseashell1789
@Ghostinaseashell1789 Год назад
She has inner misogyny
@WPC799
@WPC799 Год назад
@@Ghostinaseashell1789 i think she’s just a bit daft
@mohammadjuhail86
@mohammadjuhail86 Год назад
So true.
@thomaspeterson6097
@thomaspeterson6097 Год назад
I thought the same thing.... We had like an almost submissive feminine buff guy vs a very agressive woman
@kristenj2009
@kristenj2009 Год назад
I disagree with you about Janelle. It is possible for women to be feminine in their lifestyle, choices, actions, etc. and masculine in their personality and thinking ie. alpha-type personality. There are lots of women who display traditionally masculine traits of being loud, aggressive, decisive, etc. (not in a negative way), but are super girly in their clothing and lifestyle choices.
@dbamp
@dbamp Год назад
kaylee and jennelle are the definition of egocentric bias-- "if it doesn't happen to me, it doesn't happen to any women." hearing kaylee, who is clearly well off, respond to the idea that some people can't afford to raise a child with a "well, but i'm fine" made my blood boil
@kaitlynbradley8787
@kaitlynbradley8787 Год назад
i just came into the comments to see if anyone said anything about this. the mocking comment she made about poor people not wanting to have kids was SO beyond disrespectful - i can’t believe jubilee even kept it in the video.
@madisongreen9816
@madisongreen9816 Год назад
Kaylee sounds like a spoilt, sheltered, and privileged child. It’s like she can’t comprehend that other people in the world have it harder than she does
@id4551
@id4551 Год назад
THIS
@thekayleelayton
@thekayleelayton Год назад
@@kaitlynbradley8787 the feminist movement literally encourages that. you guys are idiots if you can’t see how degraded women are and how torn down they are from being able to raise a child.
@shorterstax
@shorterstax Год назад
​@@kaitlynbradley8787 they kept it in the video to show that sometimes people really are that crazy with their beliefs
@kristinapetravirbalaite4931
@kristinapetravirbalaite4931 6 месяцев назад
I'm glad to know those men exist. Thank you for showing them. It inspires hope. I'm starting to realize that at this point in my life, I can't develop intimacy with individuals who don't grasp it.
@akshitaverma8694
@akshitaverma8694 6 месяцев назад
If I hear the ‘protector-provider’ argument from anti-feminists in these episodes again, I am gonna scream.
@NathanXYX.
@NathanXYX. 4 месяца назад
nobody cares
@mvstudios4922
@mvstudios4922 4 месяца назад
@@NathanXYX. did you finally get picked? :O
@NathanXYX.
@NathanXYX. 4 месяца назад
@@mvstudios4922 I'm happily married and unlike you I care about both genders
@kwandozu
@kwandozu 4 месяца назад
​​@@NathanXYX.your initial response to this person is the precise antithesis to, "caring about both genders." But okay.
@NathanXYX.
@NathanXYX. 4 месяца назад
​@@kwandozu cause she was being misandrist
@meghanluhowy3152
@meghanluhowy3152 Год назад
It's so sad how Kaylee is so close-minded and judgmental. She's the epitome of "if it doesn't happen to me, then it's not a problem for anyone else either."
@Chris-ko7ov
@Chris-ko7ov Год назад
@amanamhie I agree, but I think an interesting fact is that most countries that are poor, and where is not easy to raise a kid (even if it is related to ignorance or bad education) those places have high natality rates.. To be clear, I'm not saying YOU SHOULD, if you can't afford it, I'm saying they do it anyways. I think it's easy for her to state things like that because she probably never had to face a similar problem for herself, but I also think believing everything should be in perfect alignment before having a baby is unprobable. Not defending her posture anyway, and I would always encourage people to NOT have kids if you can't feed them.
@tashboog5458
@tashboog5458 Год назад
The fact of the matter is that (outside of non-consent) pregnancy is a choice for both sexes just period. End of story.
@cocoalovelife8849
@cocoalovelife8849 Год назад
exactly, its sad... now shes raising a BLACK male in america smh
@memsysr
@memsysr Год назад
​@@tashboog5458 no it's only a woman's choice nowadays
@darkymana3735
@darkymana3735 Год назад
Very well said @meghan Luhowy Close-minded people measure the world By there only experience... Even if they are the 1% of a cases
@nezalubej1826
@nezalubej1826 Год назад
Jenelle: "I don't believe in taking anything that alters my body." Also Jenelle just sitting there:
@juan_lopez1999
@juan_lopez1999 Год назад
🍈🍈🤫
@Sarah-gt2tj
@Sarah-gt2tj Год назад
yeah... i was boutta say
@hopefulromantic.
@hopefulromantic. Год назад
jennelle the entire time: 🔸️ 👁 👄 👁 🍊 🍊
@sourlemons4
@sourlemons4 Год назад
I didn't think she even knows when she contradicts herself its like words just fly out of her mouth without her thinking
@Random-sk6hm
@Random-sk6hm Год назад
FR 😭
@ryleeherrera596
@ryleeherrera596 5 месяцев назад
It’s kind of funny to me that these women were all displaying typically masculine associated traits(being confident, out spoken, protective, a leader, etc..) and yet the way they so quickly dismissed the idea that masculine/feminine is determined person to person is just so funny to me. Also the complete frustration I had to endure listening to them go on and on about the female vs male mind was just… so closed minded not because these are not factors to consider but because they refused to see the diversity that is the human mind and even if a field is naturally dominated by one gender or another it should not be that your stance is to permanently exclude any of those who would have been able to helpfully contribute to those fields on the basis of prejudice. It’s so sad seeing how one track mind these anti-feminists are because they are living proof that there are women with something powerful to contribute to the world that isn’t just being a mother figure. I have so much more to say but yeah
@abdullahmertozdemir9437
@abdullahmertozdemir9437 28 дней назад
the way janelle says women are emotional and their judgement can't be trusted, all the while confirming we can't trust her judgement by her own standards? I am neither a feminist nor an anti-feminist, but the cognitive dissonance in anti-feminist crowd is just so blatantly showing. It is weird how no one pointed this out
@gravityclarity
@gravityclarity 5 месяцев назад
Amala is the only anti-feminist who was logical.
@thekikombe
@thekikombe Год назад
Props to the moderator for calling out the lady in red for incessantly disrupting others’ train of thought.
@chlownee
@chlownee Год назад
Literally the second I read this comment, that happened 😭
@calebjh
@calebjh Год назад
When is was vise versa there was nothing said though… interesting
@Briecheese785
@Briecheese785 Год назад
@@johnbaddoghellno7751 “They seem to have problems thinking not the sharpest tools but the ladies were. Betas soyboys and 1 balding women” and you seem to have some issues with your grammar and punctuation’s, because wtaf is this sentence…💀
@videovoidtv
@videovoidtv Год назад
Why did they even book her for this. They created the problem that you are praising them for calling out.
@Jay-jb2vr
@Jay-jb2vr Год назад
304 behavior
@missshooks
@missshooks Год назад
I wish they had like a mediator that would check information when people on these shows claim that data supports things.
@marvinmiller2983
@marvinmiller2983 Год назад
Yeah, Jubilee needs to start fact checking EVERYTHING people say on Middle Ground and putting it on screen. They already do a little bit at least
@berrymckockiner5883
@berrymckockiner5883 Год назад
But most fact checkers can't be trusted, even chat gpt is full of bleeeppop
@alexgrissom7251
@alexgrissom7251 Год назад
To be fair, if that would happen then the screen would be packed with fact checks throughout the whole show. The best thing to do is to do your own research while you are watching the show. I ddid that and find out that some of the things that the women were saying was correct.
@arianaariel4197
@arianaariel4197 Год назад
Which ones? Can you provide recourses? Or atleast tell me what the topic is about and I’ll find it myself
@sannisideup
@sannisideup Год назад
​@@alexgrissom7251 if they are able to display debates, they should be able to fact check the things said in the debates, it can be briefly addressed. Otherwise, it contributes to misinformation being spread which really doesnt help any of us
@Iamalltoounwell
@Iamalltoounwell 5 месяцев назад
I respect the patience everyone has to speak to Janelle patiently and calmly
@kiya0334
@kiya0334 6 месяцев назад
The men in this video are really smart. Mad respect for them to be so patient and calm till the end.
@BELLAOMG991
@BELLAOMG991 6 месяцев назад
Yes, applaud men for the bare minimum like all male “feminists”
@thedieseldiet
@thedieseldiet 4 месяца назад
They respect all women 🙏
@LaraSmit-xr9vh
@LaraSmit-xr9vh Год назад
“I dont want to do anything that alters my body”-Jenelle GIRL HAVE YOU SEEN YOUSELF💀💀
@selinaschmolz7166
@selinaschmolz7166 Год назад
Lol that's what i thought as she said it 😂
@GroupKillingFrenzy
@GroupKillingFrenzy Год назад
Yall some retards
@chrishammon14
@chrishammon14 Год назад
She could mean her health. Don’t be ignant.
@LaraSmit-xr9vh
@LaraSmit-xr9vh Год назад
@@chrishammon14 breast implants can be dangerous too tf?😂
@chrishammon14
@chrishammon14 Год назад
@@LaraSmit-xr9vh i see you refuse to not be ignorant to what hormones can do to someone. carry on narcissist.
@Firedragon0202
@Firedragon0202 Год назад
I love when the black shirt lady basically said “I don’t experience this problem so it doesn’t exist”
@mmm-ie5ws
@mmm-ie5ws Год назад
but when feminist women say the same thing your not for it. correct?
@ghhoulx
@ghhoulx Год назад
@@mmm-ie5ws what issues has feminism stated this about?
@iiastridii
@iiastridii Год назад
@@mmm-ie5wsquickly
@Twice_jeans_xg
@Twice_jeans_xg Год назад
​@@mmm-ie5ws r u gonna reply?
@tonyonaperky2128
@tonyonaperky2128 Год назад
​@@ghhoulxFalse accusations. You don't face it so you say "PERSONAL ANECDOTES DONT COUNT REEE" but you'll scream your personal anecdote of being fuked in the 4ss
@isaactrussell5121
@isaactrussell5121 5 месяцев назад
John is the best. So level headed and non judgmental.
@user-bu3vt5bz8s
@user-bu3vt5bz8s 4 месяца назад
being a female, I absolutely hated everything the anti-femenists said
@jacobvisser4750
@jacobvisser4750 Месяц назад
ofc cuz you’re a women 😂
@gloriapetrac
@gloriapetrac Год назад
Jenelle is able to dress that way thanks to feminism, but she obviously isn’t ready for that conversation yet.
@Thisissilly222
@Thisissilly222 Год назад
And her RU-vid channel about being sex positive, feminism helped the world become more sex positive and open about sex
@edp-xo1on
@edp-xo1on Год назад
You do realise that was first and second wave feminism third wave feminism is a disaster to the modern world and is deteriorating the world third wave feminism must go its an extreme movement that has nothing to do with feminism. Women and men have equal rights in 2023
@worlore1651
@worlore1651 Год назад
Feminism has come too far. If you want real civil rights why don’t women get drafted too?
@atgrandfathersknee3065
@atgrandfathersknee3065 Год назад
@@Thisissilly222 Sex positivity is a result of capitalism and globalism. The world, as a whole, does not care about feminism. Feminism is a western concept, that isn't really relevant in most of the western world.
@bluenomadbruh
@bluenomadbruh Год назад
100% !!! Either she is a hypocrite or just ignorant about history.
@olivia-nx8xf
@olivia-nx8xf Год назад
i need jannelles confidence. homegirl will fully spew blatant misinformation with her entire chest, its remarkable
@melodiejobinmcinnis6558
@melodiejobinmcinnis6558 Год назад
It’s the implants
@olivia-nx8xf
@olivia-nx8xf Год назад
@@melodiejobinmcinnis6558 the chemicals from the silicone impacts seeps into your blood and then melts your brain no it’s true it’s true
@JakeThatMan
@JakeThatMan Год назад
What misinformation?
@doeeyes2
@doeeyes2 Год назад
I dont think that chest is actually hers
@proathiest
@proathiest Год назад
Its called "audacity"
@Jasmine-dd8ce
@Jasmine-dd8ce 6 месяцев назад
These women made these men feel how women in general feel like in this patriarchal society.
@musicplug1730
@musicplug1730 2 месяца назад
Patriarchal society??? What other option is there?
@yawnzzn1206
@yawnzzn1206 Месяц назад
Omg Janelle gives me second hand emberassment, not her thinking he asked her about her sex drive that's crazy
@jennyrodriguez2310
@jennyrodriguez2310 Год назад
I think some of these anti feminist women are confusing female privilege with "pretty privilege", which is a valid thing. A woman that isn't conventionally pretty will not just get any guy she wants lol she will not get treated the same as a "hot woman"
@rachelsmyth9854
@rachelsmyth9854 Год назад
facts
@illogical001
@illogical001 Год назад
Exactly! And just completely ignoring that the same thing exists for men too. 💀
@daanyal2550
@daanyal2550 Год назад
yes but she will still have 10x more options that your 7/10 guy
@lucthin6245
@lucthin6245 Год назад
pretty privilege exist for men and women as well... I think that's why one them said different instead of "more" like the prompt suggested.
@Moesie
@Moesie Год назад
@@daanyal2550 she doesnt, she got quanyity over quallity The guys she can get are either 1 night stand not marriage material Or weird, a women had the be more selective cuz she can get pregnant And having options doesnt mean much since a women is being $lut shamed if she sleeps woth many guys And women are called out for hitti g the wal
@psicologiajoseh
@psicologiajoseh 10 месяцев назад
It's hurtful to hear women saying confidently “Yeah, I (we) am not logical, I'm not analytical, I'm too emotional, I should not be a leader” and so on. I'd hate to see someone saying that to the powerful women in my life who had influenced me so much.
@adamjuneau6287
@adamjuneau6287 9 месяцев назад
why? knowing thyself is a beautiful thing.
@opps8511
@opps8511 5 месяцев назад
yeah they are just projecting their own insecurities to the entire womanhood to make them feel better about themselves.
@tamialeslie7187
@tamialeslie7187 5 месяцев назад
Cringe and lack of self worth
@Ezio_TheCreed
@Ezio_TheCreed 5 месяцев назад
​@@adamjuneau6287 im not smart and muscular so men shouldnt participate in sports
@whitepicklejuice
@whitepicklejuice 5 месяцев назад
There is a psychological difference in the way men and women process situations, this is FACT. I was also raised by strong women, and I can objectively understand that the women in my life are different from men. You are reacting emotionally to the science. You seem to have adopted that from all the women who raised you.
@aster_11
@aster_11 17 дней назад
These women are so privileged to talk about a topic in the way they are.
@Qualex14
@Qualex14 Год назад
The energy I get from Jennelle is of a person who thinks that comment sections on social media are an accurate reflection of society.
@crustycrabpizza4581
@crustycrabpizza4581 Год назад
Yes!!!
@WildXstElementZ
@WildXstElementZ Год назад
You’ve worded so well. You genius
@sayyestolife333
@sayyestolife333 Год назад
Thank youuu thats so many of these people. The youtube algorithm that is fueled by extremes to make you click and comment is how they judge feminism as a whole
@zzzaaayyynnn
@zzzaaayyynnn Год назад
haha, perfect, so true
@raqimk
@raqimk Год назад
I wanna be friends with you fr😂 genius
@noblecave4139
@noblecave4139 10 месяцев назад
The self control of the transgender dude to sit and just take some serious transphobia on the chin is genuinely so impressive. I hope he rests well knowing everyone recognizes that the other lady was the bad guy.
@amberbrandenburg4175
@amberbrandenburg4175 9 месяцев назад
what transphobia? You mean facts? Janelle was rude...You can definitely say she took some abuse....but transphobia....really? That's a stretch.
@noblecave4139
@noblecave4139 9 месяцев назад
I would argue that telling someone who is openly identifying as a male that you only see them as a female is transphobic.@@amberbrandenburg4175
@donniewilhelm3368
@donniewilhelm3368 5 месяцев назад
What chin?
@ireneabayezu7661
@ireneabayezu7661 5 месяцев назад
@makima4life
@makima4life 5 месяцев назад
No such thing as "transphobia"
@mybootscamewithoutstraps
@mybootscamewithoutstraps 9 дней назад
This one was a bit wild. It really seemed like a couple of the anti-feminist points were hyper niche experiences to justify an overall belief, and instead of recognizing that there's overarching things going on that data showcases, they'll just continue to hyper focus on the niche and run with it.
@hobovan.
@hobovan. 4 месяца назад
[18:09] as a dude, my brain is definitely all over. i enjoy talking about my issues. the women in the video make a lot of assumptions about men that are straight up false, but because their source is basically just societal expectations and not individuals, there’s no way to argue against it without extending the argument outside of the prompt and talking about the patriarchal structure of society.
@musicplug1730
@musicplug1730 2 месяца назад
lol you enjoy talking about your issues
@nicoleyavorski1555
@nicoleyavorski1555 Год назад
i think janelle’s trauma from being trafficked is completely affecting her view on sex work, patriarchy/masculinity, gendered roles, and honestly everything in this video.
@LoneWulf278
@LoneWulf278 Год назад
I agree.
@Cravennats
@Cravennats Год назад
I mean that’s kinda valid?
@bromeliad9683
@bromeliad9683 Год назад
I don’t necessarily agree with her points, but trauma affecting her views on a subject isn’t necessarily a bad thing. We all are going to have biases brought to the table that are going to affect the way we view the world, and I am sure there are people with similar traumas that have the opposite opinions.
@starlightrains
@starlightrains Год назад
sex work literally deletes grey matter in the brains of people who watch it, hating it is based
@Dawnfordaze
@Dawnfordaze Год назад
What’s crazy is she a “sex intimacy expert” 😂 I’ve looked at her RU-vid and insta.
@WillowFrancais
@WillowFrancais Год назад
Kaylee came across as so comfortable in her own privilege, that it just didn’t compute to her that some people do struggle and that for some people it’s valid.
@mariaygonzalez83
@mariaygonzalez83 Год назад
How come you didn’t think the same for Jenelle ? Also wouldn’t you say, that there’s exceptions for everything? Not everything/everyone is the rule. Meaning that just because some people do struggle, doesn’t mean others can choose to have kids and not struggle. What she said if there’s 2 ppl in the relationship, there’s more chance of less struggle with being a parent. Just because some say they don’t want kids because they don’t wanna struggle, doesn’t mean there’s not ppl out there who want kids and will provide regardless of circumstances. It’s not being privileged if she had a plan in place, has someone who supports her and they both wanted this. What she saying is you could have this too if you really want it. The same way others are saying “just because u won’t struggle it doesn’t mean others won’t.” Same could be said vice versa and it’s all about how you view things and think.
@Lauwit
@Lauwit Год назад
"Some"
@notovidio
@notovidio Год назад
@@mariaygonzalez83 These people are literally programmed and wired differently. No point in having a genuine conversation or debate with them. You’ll end up pulling your hair out trying to make sense of it
@crystaleuwing8411
@crystaleuwing8411 Год назад
@@mariaygonzalez83 okay but the problem is some people don't want to struggle.. I think that was the whole point
@jewel8439
@jewel8439 Год назад
@@mariaygonzalez83 ​What privilege? She’s a s*x traffic victim who is busy raising a son who she didn’t ask for. Holding them to the same standard is wild. I think everyone in the comments is overlooking how the feminists are the most privileged here, no not because they are men but because they have been educated properly and weren’t brainwashed by bad people
@Hardawayfits
@Hardawayfits 4 месяца назад
As a woman in construction I find this debate so intriguing 😅 Dear anti feminist come to construction and see why some feminist are feminist 😂
@christophervibe7430
@christophervibe7430 3 месяца назад
Why Bcuz of the way guys may treat u in the work force? U can’t use that and say that’s y ur a feminist. That’s like me sayin I work with triple K members and now I’m a liberal. Just Bcuz there’s bad ppl around u doesn’t mean society as a whole encourages or condones their behavior just like America doesn’t condone the actions of the triple k
@Hardawayfits
@Hardawayfits 3 месяца назад
@@christophervibe7430 Definitely not the reason I'm a feminist. It's because of my father. But go off.
@RJsermon
@RJsermon 2 месяца назад
I assume that you're being coddled and you have no idea.
@Hardawayfits
@Hardawayfits 2 месяца назад
@@RJsermon Interesting assumption 🤣😅😂
@rxse5042
@rxse5042 2 месяца назад
Janelle: I don’t believe in taking birth control or anything that alters my body Also her: 👁️ 👁️ 👄 🏀🏀
@rachellee2152
@rachellee2152 Год назад
“i see a woman” is such a crazy thing to say 😭😭😭
@majasadowska9683
@majasadowska9683 Год назад
And him being ok with it😳
@jasminegates-cr5hg
@jasminegates-cr5hg Год назад
Bros got more restraint than me
@wowest.
@wowest. Год назад
I see men when I see western trans women
@oPlayboy805
@oPlayboy805 Год назад
I mean it’s true I bet that’s the first time he’s guests that too
@magallanesagustin4952
@magallanesagustin4952 Год назад
Because she's still biologically a woman.
@taytae1989
@taytae1989 Год назад
Gosh. The calm energy of John, the way he expressed himself...it was just so beautiful. He seems like a great father.
@mattheq9930
@mattheq9930 Год назад
Same with Jenelle😊
@divyanshsingh1078
@divyanshsingh1078 Год назад
@@mattheq9930 wtf r u serious
@midwestrebel2
@midwestrebel2 Год назад
Nah the males & trans on here are so sensitive , brainwashed
@midwestrebel2
@midwestrebel2 Год назад
​@@mattheq9930I agree she's beast !
@davidbrooks1700
@davidbrooks1700 Год назад
Fr,
@dashed0327
@dashed0327 4 месяца назад
Why does the most annoying person have the most to say?
@mikaelakallaeva9124
@mikaelakallaeva9124 28 дней назад
As a physicist I feel the ick at the 50:39 moment. People so often use physics terms to explain spiritual stuff, while in reality those arguments have no scientific back up. It just fancy words.
@eaaronross
@eaaronross 8 месяцев назад
Hurt my heart so much when Jennelle said "I still see a woman". She was just looking to twist the knife and it was so cold :(
@PENH5428
@PENH5428 8 месяцев назад
Amala knew immediately
@Rossuke1
@Rossuke1 8 месяцев назад
no bro cause she wouldn't be saying that if she didn't know too it's infuriating :( justice for Mason
@lulugreen3588
@lulugreen3588 7 месяцев назад
Literally I was so mad
@joetoto2331
@joetoto2331 7 месяцев назад
Snowflake
@reymki
@reymki 7 месяцев назад
@@joetoto2331 that's all you dawg
@luvbombz
@luvbombz Год назад
I couldn’t imagine janelle having actual conversations with people in real life. She just likes to hear herself talk
@gracieexx
@gracieexx Год назад
she talks soo much omg
@jasondutton2531
@jasondutton2531 Год назад
That’s a feminine trait though. Women talk far more than men do
@sohailayawari9547
@sohailayawari9547 Год назад
Absolutely frustrating
@armyb140
@armyb140 Год назад
​​​@@jasondutton2531 While men talk over women at work and don't even pay attention to their attribution to solve a problem that may occur. Little incel you don't know sh1t.
@gracieexx
@gracieexx Год назад
@@jasondutton2531 i have never seen anyone talk as much as her though and none of it made any sense 🫣
@freshpinkapples7618
@freshpinkapples7618 18 дней назад
I love how supportive and chill John was with Janelle. He was just trying to make her think of things another way. I really respect that!
@yagmur.karagoz
@yagmur.karagoz 5 месяцев назад
I dont think these women have been in career based places AT ALL. I am a woman engineer and we never taken seriously but when a male friend of my say the SAME thing for me, everyone starts to agree. This is not just my experience, almost every women go through this. I can not believe her AUDACITY to say 'If i wanted to be a CEO i would' as if she tried before as a woman. She have may gotten what she wanted in her life but not every women wants her path.
@RJsermon
@RJsermon 2 месяца назад
It's because you're most likely worse. Or you don't know how to properly navigate
@yagmur.karagoz
@yagmur.karagoz 2 месяца назад
@@RJsermon You have no idea who I am and I am speaking for every women in this industry. Its a fact. Are you a woman in stem?
@karennn3
@karennn3 Год назад
Jenelle is very delulu. Also people are forgetting that having certain privileges as a woman vary. If you don’t fall into society’s standard of beauty then your “privileges” are revoked.
@morgane.n
@morgane.n Год назад
Delulu😂
@cameerkat
@cameerkat Год назад
What is delulu?
@morgane.n
@morgane.n Год назад
@@cameerkat delusional
@totalrko
@totalrko Год назад
ironic that a Karen said this
@ceeIoc
@ceeIoc Год назад
Nah, ugly women can still get a guy locked up by lying.
@la1z33
@la1z33 Год назад
Jenelle really said "I'm not interested in putting anything that alters my body" in response to birth control pills.
@cranburrey
@cranburrey Год назад
Meanwhile her breasts…..
@josegarza7719
@josegarza7719 Год назад
Funny you say that. She looks like she has implants.
@DavidW-ng5zv
@DavidW-ng5zv Год назад
Male birth control is a joke, men shouldn't take it.
@defmo8
@defmo8 Год назад
😂 yeah I was looking for someone to comment the same thing.
@aldubm2234
@aldubm2234 Год назад
To be fair, birth control pills alter hormone production which definitely alters the body. But ya I didn’t like that woman
@alexspicemen4076
@alexspicemen4076 Месяц назад
the dad is super wise and calm at his core for no reason, truly inspirational.
@moniqua9123
@moniqua9123 6 месяцев назад
Thank you for these men to standing up for women, that's real men in my optic!
@parrisnia72
@parrisnia72 Год назад
I couldn’t tell that Mason is trans. The fact that she said she can sense "feminine energy" from him makes me wonder if she only said that because he said he's trans lol
@Marz2727
@Marz2727 Год назад
Of course Jenelle said it for that reason, Jenelle is an awful human being.
@Execution88
@Execution88 Год назад
Definitely knew he was feminine, you could tell from his mannerism and the way he spoke
@choco12325
@choco12325 Год назад
i felt so bad for Mason for having to deal with her T_T
@jcookway
@jcookway Год назад
As a gay male, I just thought maybe he was a fellow gay male, everyone can have a little feminine energy that doesn’t make them gay or trans just makes them human. She definitely just said that to be annoying.
@ag2407
@ag2407 Год назад
Mason 100% has female energy, thinks like a woman because he was born as one. Whoever doesn’t sense that is coping
@catiareis91
@catiareis91 10 месяцев назад
As an anti feminist, shouldn't Janelle just let the men speak and agree with everything they say instead of cutting them off and undermining their opinion?
@MadaraUchiha-.._
@MadaraUchiha-.._ 5 месяцев назад
i doubt she saw them as men ESPECIALY the trans one. she’s super weird
@CAB0DE15
@CAB0DE15 4 месяца назад
Thats the same as saying that these mens as feminists they should kneel down and follow everything these women say
@MGsubbie
@MGsubbie 4 месяца назад
Well no, because nothing undermines women's opinion more than feminism when a woman dares to make a statement that disagrees with feminism.
@alisapas2673
@alisapas2673 4 месяца назад
True
@maya-wy3go
@maya-wy3go 3 месяца назад
@@MadaraUchiha-.._no fr brah
@kp__25300
@kp__25300 9 дней назад
'Women are too emotional' Men breaking stuff or punching anyone who midly disrespect them and we are the emotionals . Men are super emotional, but selfishly emotional Patriarchy also makes them opress lots of their feelings and emotions, lets not forget that
@FordSkilled
@FordSkilled 7 месяцев назад
No one can outshine Amala. She's too smart and she studies up.
@coco-kl3xr
@coco-kl3xr 3 месяца назад
All male feminist did,I didn't even notice she was there till you point out
@FordSkilled
@FordSkilled 3 месяца назад
@@coco-kl3xr obviously you’re lying but okay.
@coco-kl3xr
@coco-kl3xr 3 месяца назад
@@FordSkilled she literally made no point just asked 1 or 2 question that's it
@FordSkilled
@FordSkilled 3 месяца назад
@@coco-kl3xr “literally”? You don’t know that that word means apparently.
@anusha2222
@anusha2222 Месяц назад
she studied? If she actually studied she would know that women out there are not more privileged then men lmao
@_studiofrancesca
@_studiofrancesca Год назад
Maybe this is just me, but when i think of feminism, i don’t just think about American feminism. There are still so many countries with discriminatory laws - not to mention Iran where femicide is actively happening! Feminism is necessary on an international scale
@a.k.salazr
@a.k.salazr Год назад
@Florentino Perez MMM.. not entirely, but it's way better than other countries.
@sayyestolife333
@sayyestolife333 Год назад
@Florentino Perez BECAUSE of feminism. So that is why its sad but hilariously childish to see western women who benefit from feminism so passionate about hating feminism...
@speedytrader5180
@speedytrader5180 Год назад
​@Florentino Perez well I live in the so-called Western world yet in my country women are still largely seen as bad workers because they could get pregnant at any time and go on paid leave, for that employers tend to be way more strict when hiring women,so I believe that there is still quite a long way to go in the West as well.
@hrishitasinha9334
@hrishitasinha9334 Год назад
OMG SAME!! like who's gonna tell them there's a world outside AMERICA that needs feminism.
@eriksucioboy686
@eriksucioboy686 Год назад
​@A.K. Salzr how are we not?
@Cantrona
@Cantrona 9 месяцев назад
My favourite moment was when Alex was like "Why wouldn't I [take male birth control]?" and she was like " Why don't you get a vicectomy?" and he replied "I did." Mic. Drop.
@adamjuneau6287
@adamjuneau6287 9 месяцев назад
the Beta boys are coming.
@matts1166
@matts1166 6 месяцев назад
There was a news article about 2 years ago about the clinical trials of male birth control. More than a few self-described feminists were denouncing it. They were pissed because there were too few side effects. No, seriously. They were mad because it had less side effects than women's version, and thus "unfair".
@paollus8575
@paollus8575 5 месяцев назад
But who dropped the mix tho ?
@al-imranadore1182
@al-imranadore1182 5 месяцев назад
Condoms work fine, vasectomy works perfectly, male birth control is just unnecessary.
@mckchillin
@mckchillin 5 месяцев назад
@@paollus8575Alex
@joshualoveday
@joshualoveday 6 месяцев назад
Sorry, I cannot take the red hot air balloon seriously. She has the greatest issues of the entire panel but is somehow an expert on all topics. What a joke.
@user-zw8vi1pl9y
@user-zw8vi1pl9y 3 месяца назад
Wow, that was a big topic ! And very intresting thank you !! But It was aslo very difficult to watch and for other reasons than just having ideas being challenged ... It was hard to have people being so immersed in there point of view that they cut each other mid sentence. The mediator did a great job to have reminders of trying to have equal chances to express themself ! bBut I wonder if it could help to have a systematic input about non violent talking ahead of the video ( But maybe there 's already one off camera ), even a "talking stick" in the video as we call it were I'm from ( something that people will have to give too each other each time they want to speak so that the ony people speaking are to ones having this thing before giving it to the person having something to say ) or just a "safe word" for when they are being interut ? But, regardless of this, thank you for your work, all the great ideas and energie your speading with your videos !
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