Does FNAF RUIN Redeem Security Breach? 

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I love how every time Mark takes a clip from Markiplier he replaces the actual Markiplier reaction with the crying one

Turns out the "Ruined DLC" didn’t actually ruin anything, which is surprising coming from Security Breach.

I will say I love the implication Roxy specifically hates Gregory she has no issues with any other kids its just him. Like the other animatronics are like wild animals but Roxy is running on pure spite which is just the funniest possible outcome the only reason this robot is alive is that she wants to throw hands with a child.

Man, Poor Markiplier. Someone needs to give him some emotional support.. He's been crying this entire time!

Its also important to remember that this was steelwools first non-vr game. They were chosen personally to continue the franchise by scott himself. And the fact they release this DLC to do good by the fans proves that they may be the perfect studio to continue the franchise.

It's ironic how the FNAF DLC is called "Ruins", yet it manage to fix the issues of Security Breach since its release. Not to mention that the new jumpscares in the DLC is cinematic and threatening that it feels like you ain't going nowhere when the animatronics catch you.

A few questions to help anyone watching out. 1) The Entity's canon name is M.X.E.S and is a security program that was set up to keep the Mimic at bay. 2) Roxy wasn't "killed" per se, she was more rebooted without the security node present in her. That's how she came back to possibly save us. 3) The reason the Mimic wore a costume is because in the book it talks about how the Mimic likes to hide in costumes and can fit into any.

I don’t even dislike Security Breach, I liked how different and fun it was. But yeah this dlc returned the horror vibes much needed!

I will never not laugh at Markiplier's facecam being overlayed with him crying whenever his gameplay footage is being used

The fact Cassie goes to a dangerous place just to save Gregory is the respectable loyal friend everyone needs

I really hate how Twitter thinks that you must be aware of everything at all times regarding the situation with people claiming that you are a supporter of someone who did a bad thing. It's like the ultimate kangaroo court or something.

Actually, the first TFTPP novel was confirmed to have begun production in 2019, with the stories that explain the Mimic almost certainly being written months before SB even came out. At most, it could be course correction from people who complained about Glitchtrap being William in VR, but there's actually more implications in that game that the Mimic was the intention, with Glitchtrap's behavior and how the use of old hardware is described. Scott just kept his cards too close to his chest when SB was being developed, which hurt the narrative.

I loved Cassie so much more as a protagonist then Gregory, sure her reactions to stuff are strange but that’s passable, since she’s probably was around the characters a lot because of her father. And she is noticeably a bit whiny at certain times, but that’s pretty realistic for a kid her age while being in the situation she’s in.

To my personal opinion I actually really love Ruin. I find the animatronic designs to definitely have the creep factor, Cassie having a much more open personality than Gregory, and also love how linear it feels and also how dark and gloomy the atmosphere is of the pizzaplex. I also like Cassie and Roxy’s relationship even though it was small it still felt sweet much like Freddy and Gregory’s relationship.

SB honestly might remain one of the best go to examples of how a big enough fanbase and AAA budget will make any game defensible regardless of how awful it is. Ruin meanwhile is actually pretty good.

I wouldn't blame you if you thought Burntrap was literally William Afton. However, as a certified lorehead, I'm here to tell you that the Tales From the Pizzaplex books were being written in 2019 and were being listed before SB released, meaning the Mimic was always the plan since HW. It was supposed to be a twist but it wasn't done very well. I could go into the actual lore points of why it was the Mimic since HW but I'm too lazy so I'll leave it at that.

Hey Mark! The stuff you ran into about g**e is actually trauma that was unfortunately happening at the same time as you made your tweet. The drama involving a FNAF fan game developer named Phisnom who thought Ruin was boring, someone made a joke about it, and that person was being sent d***h threats, g**e and other things by Phisnom's "fans" only for Phisnom to not take the situation seriously. Somehow, your tweet got roped into that. On the bright side, this video was great! Thanks!

How does Twitter manage to do thoroughly gaslight itself into believing things that NOBODY said It's like a superpower

5:13 Originally, the canon ending in Security Breach was the Burntrap ending (in the files its labeled as the true ending). However, at some point during ruin's development, it got retconned into being the Princess Quest ending. In Ruin itself there is evidence of this - there is an unused early model of The Entity that implies he was originally supposed to be glitchtrap, and the general ruined state of the pizzaplex only makes sense with the events of the Burntrap ending.

I'm pretty sure the reason at Eclipse's model "glitches out" when you reboot him, is because the animation that follows immediately after required a new model, and the "glitch" is just the new model loading in

A scene I really liked in the game was with Cassie and Roxy, and while it was very heart touching I still feel like there could have been more done to make it more impactful. Cassie remaining completely silent all up until after she deactivates Roxy makes it feel like she’s just talking to a brick wall. I would have liked to see some more internal struggle, maybe both of them reminiscing together. Maybe even Cassie explaining she needed to turn her off for her to be alright. There could have been a lot more done to this scene but for what it was, it was touching to see the animatronics get some kind of genuine humanization

ruin very much feels like a course correction to show fans that they can make a proper fnaf-esk game when they focus on more linear gameplay rather than ambitious open-world-esk roaming and imo it works, and redeems a lot of the problems i had with the base game - especially in the story department

I like the general idea of Ruined more than the full product itself. Like the more deserted and empty version of the Pizzaplex makes for some oppressive, haunting atmosphere. Even stuff like the Entity helps expand the glitch aspects from Help Wanted. However, I think the whole thing is held back because the foundations of SB makes it hard to elicit a consistently solid playthrough. Which why how have moments where you're either punished too lightly for making a mistake or spend have the time wandering aimlessly because the level design can get pretty confusing.

11:16 I do like that all the endings at least end up the same way, more or less. Mimic is still out there. Scooped, unscooped, or presumably still slowly following the Cassie while she’s trapped in an AR hallucination or whatever. It leaves the door open in all of them, rather than sometimes killing off one or more of Vanny/Freddy/Vanessa. Cassie potentially being dead in the elevator and AR endings doesn’t really mean all that much, lore-wise. Next game could have the player controlling Smitty WerbenJagerManJensen for all it matters. The player character can be literally anyone. Point is, Mimic is still out there after every ending. Cool! We have our new antagonist for the next game. Which one’s canon? Doesn’t matter. Bad guy is still bad guy who can and will do bad guy things going forward.

I honestly think that they were originally going to go with the Burntrap ending but realized that they had angered almost everyone by doing so, only to retcon it into making the Princess Quest ending canon.

7:35 she was rebooted, like eclipse. Not murdered. The reaction from the scene was probably because Cassie felt like she was betraying Roxy, and or because she knows nothing about robots. It could also be because the mimic lies about Roxy being a node, and we saw what happened to all the nodes when you unlock them.

I just gotta say, I love how every time Markiplier is shown it’s just the clip of him crying. Truly amazing 🙏

The Entity’s official name seems to be M.X.E.S., judging by the server it gets sucked into at the end having the name on it.

While not the best, it’s definitely a good step for the franchise. They even had a really good emotional scene that isn’t just an exposition dump. (Though it’s a bit annoying that it’s “ruinded” 10 minutes later) it’s a good step in the right direction

The Roxy situation I see as this: Roxy gets REBOOTED, not shut off, which disables the security node inside her. However due to the memories of Cassie being ingrained in her memory system (probably because it happened sometime before she got turned into a node and before the time she got reset back to) she remembered Cassie and came to save her with it being emotional since we didn’t know if she would still remember Cassie or not.

It says a lot about how good a youtuber you are that in spite of never having played FNAF I still watch these. I enjoy horror, heck I enjoy mascot horror but for some reason fnaf has never grabbed me. All this said your coverage has intrigued me, when I have some time to sit down at my pc I might invest.

The Ruined DLC didn't fully redeem security breach, as they didn't add Freddy Fazbear saying Bababooey 😌

there is a running theory the one who dropped the elevator was the mimic. You can hear a static during gregory's speech in the elevator, which is presumably the mimic taking over.

That supporting sending a minor gore thing is related to who sent the tweet not the game

The ruin dlc is basically steel wool saying they learned from their mistakes. I think if they take this skeleton, jazz it up a little with some more exciting gameplay, some solid variety in that gameplay, some more scares, a story that is more present throughout, and make it longer then it'll be great

I really like how unique of a design the Entity is compared to other fnaf designs

I still laugh at the running joke of markiplier crying everytime he's shown

I think the reason for why the endings here are kinda vague and unexplained is because of how previous FNAF games have often left things up in the air like that. They often have a lot of bits and pieces that you have to use to construct the plot yourself, but have only rarely flat out told you what's happening in any real detail. I think the only game that has done that was Pizzeria Simulator and the base game for Security Breach to an extent.

I like how it’s an unspoken rule in your videos to always use markiplier crying whenever you mention him/use footage from him.

Honestly it’s pretty nice that the developers gave Roxy a bit of redemption in the story. since it would’ve been better if the player was given the choice to save some of the animatronics that were being used or let them be destroyed but they never did that.🐱

I really enjoyed Ruin when playing through it but looking back now that I finished it, it felt just okay. The endings disappointmented me but the overall game does make me interested in what Steel Wool will make next. It is definitely worth playing at least if you already own Security Breach.

I genuinely enjoy the fazbear frights + pizzaplex books but completely agree it should never be necesary to consume other media in order to understand a video game, movie, etc. of the same franchise. I include games like Hello Neighbor where their alphas or betas made more sense and began lore but are almost unnatainable as a consumer now. but I do think Ruin was pretty well done even if it leaves the average person witha lot of mysery, as long as they give us answers in the next iteration and don't leave the only mimic explanation up to the books. Great vid and view explanation as always 🤘

Glad this video ended off with a positive note. It’s always a joy seeing you happy related to something, especially something you’re passionate about like FNAF.

1:57 you couldnt respond to a worst tweet, dude fuck up so badly he was fired from developing his own game and got a restriction order FROM THE WHOLE FRANCHISE

How in the world could you have come to the conclusion “they’re hinting that Burntrap was actually the Mimic”? I’m pretty damn sure it’s the exact opposite of that. It’s directly showing those who believed him to be the Mimic that he isn’t actually the Mimic, as they have wildly different designs and function as characters completely differently

Roxy actually did not die from the faz rench from Cassie, Cassie thought when they "disable" the security node she thought it would kill Roxy but it was just a reboot which also solves why Roxy fights back the mimic because of security protocols like how we rebooted the daycare intended and eclipse was safety mode

The thing that confused me and kinda pissed me off was the fact that princess quest ending was canon, BUT THE FACT THAT THE BURN TRAP ENDING IN THE FILES WAS CALLED "True ending" or "canon ending" so why would they call that ending canon if it wasn't!?

As someone who has played and competed almost every main and spin-off game, read every single book front to back, and absolutely loved RUIN as my personal favorite entry This is a pretty fair review 👍 Good job

I still found ruin to be massively disappointing and excessively boring.

The first positive vid you make in God knows how long and it's something I hate.

Because you bring it up in the video, I am caught up on the books, which made the Mimic reveal really exciting for me!

Everyone knows Security Breach was far from perfect, but I’m glad you pointed out how fans still enjoyed the game wither it was by messing around with it, or just enjoying the ascetic. The glamrock animatronics are by far my favorite designs so wither Ruin would be considered good or bad gameplay or design wise, I’ll still enjoy my time playing knowing I get to interact with the glamrocks more often. Makes me hopeful that HW2 gives them more room to shine as well.

I definitely feel like they just decided last-minute to make the elevator ending into a bad ending, it makes zero sense for Gregory to cut the elevator when he can see that Cassie is the only person inside, with the Mimic left outside the elevator. Also, why did they feel the need to censor Gregory's friend's pronouns? Weird prototype-on-foot-Freddy aside, it's definitely Vanessa, she's the only person that'd know the layout of the underground cave system

Solve the riddle

2:02 typical tuesday on twit- *cough* sorry “X”.

Whoever edits these videos are a genius and very good at it

ls mark when being forced to say something positive

Dunno if you'll see this, but I just wanted to say really quick that The Mimic is not a retcon. Its existence has been (clearly very poorly) hinted at since Help Wanted, and according to the books, the corpse it's wearing isn't even Afton's. That doesn't mean Burntrap never existed, the running theory is that after Glitchtrap was destroyed in the Princess Quest ending, the Mimic had no reason to mimic Afton, so it just ditched the costume.

Security Breach had its faults, but Ruin brought out the scary aspects that FNAF has been lacking ever since Security Breach released. Granted, SB was decently scary, but I overall enjoyed it. The Fazmap is what I didn’t like. The DLC have scary moments, and is overall an amazing experience. Old say Ruin gave Security Breach the chance it deserved, and hopefully future installments will be just as good. I have a good feeling that Help Wanted 2 will be good. 😀👍

That's hilarious that Twitter attacked you over nothing

I'd say they at least partially redeemed themselves. They'll probably do another DLC and, if they do, I hope they continue the path they're on, but with more horror.

I like simping for dead men inside of a rotting animatronic

If you wanna know about Phisnom, his fans sent death threats and sending gore to a minor cause he made a joke saying that he made a joke about FNAF+ might being boring. Phisnom learned about it then joked about that happening. Then made a half assed “apology” I ever saw. That’s why people said that.

the whole "g sent to minors" thing comes from who you agreed with. as, after phisnom commented that, someone said that they should say the same thing about fnaf+ (which they were developing), it lead to a bunch of people sending them gore and similar material. due to this, phisnom is no longer working on fnaf+ and kinda has a restraining order on the franchise. i know you probably wont see this comment, but it does give insite on why people said what they said. i will admit though, i do agree with ya on security breach being a what it is, as it was kinda over hyped

I feel like they could have made more gimmicks to the faz-wrench wire things. Like more sections that are like, purple, which lose energy really fast.

Cool thumbnail art also I like the art style this dude uses :D

The "minors getting sent gore thing" was a different drama about another RU-vidr. You shouldn't have been roped into that

I'll be honest, I got into fnaf because youtube recommended me videos of people completely breaking security breach, so it will always have a special place in my heart

(LONG) Admittedly when I first got to ruins of the Pizza Place… again, I was genuinely unnerve because the environment suddenly throws me for a loop with I entered the waterfall cave area, it genuinely felt like I was in the Silver Eyes universe given what I knew about those books. And surprisingly when I got to the old Burntrap boss location I was starting to get more curious while also dreading what would be coming up next, until I’m face to face with the Mimic… which I have to be honest about, I hated it at first for one simple reason. It felt like one big retcon and worse of all, it was a retcon that was explored in another media than from what it was originally introduced in. The Mimic IS just Burntrap retexturize into being a separate character than just being another version of Purple G. Afton, I’m glad they did included Candy Cadet so that you get the idea of Mimic and so that you didn’t have to buy books for that context… unlike how that is still the case for the base game. Security Breach still has many plot holes and gaps in certain cause and effects areas, even if you get all 50 messages and all 16 CDs the story is still pretty unclear. And it is certainly not worth paying 40 bucks for, like I would be more forgiving if the price wasn’t just so high. They have patched some thing in the base game with the Ruin update but it still came down to the same feeling, excitement at first before slowly wearing down and it just became frustrating and disappointing. (Sorry for length but it’s the only way I know how to best express myself)

Uh...LS Mark, if you aren't aware, Phisnom's fans were attacking a minor with death threats and sending them gore at the time, all for them saying as a joke "FNAF+ is mid." FNAF+ is the game Phisnom was working on, and when people asked Phisnom to try to tell his fans to stop this, he was joking around about the whole thing. Which uh...isn't really appropriate for this kinda situation. Just wanted to fill you in on this, since you probably didn't know this.

CONTROVERSIAL OPINION: You don't need to read the books to enjoy Ruin. People who've read the books are completely mystified of how to precisely fit it into the timeline, which timeline we're talking about, various degrees of canonicity, etc., and I'm like "Oh, there's a robot that can copy people, which was established as a possibility earlier in the game". Ruin is actually impressively self-contained considering it's a DLC.

So glad I finally get to watch this! Was excited since you announced it. Ruin was a big step up in performance issues. I enjoyed security breach a lot more though and I played it in March instead of December. Anyways ruin was a solid dlc let alone game. 7/10

I think my two big issues with Ruin are that I wish there were more enemy encounters or more threatening enemy encounters (since it’s super easy to avoid The Entity), and that every single ending feels anticlimactic. The bad ending feels like it ends right as it’s getting into the interesting stuff when you finally talk to the real Gregory. The secret ending is kinda just a “WTF?” ending. And the good ending does somewhat have a conclusion, but has no other exposition to back it up. Other than that, I thought it was fun for what it was, I enjoyed my time with it. I don’t think I’m gonna play it again since it’s a small experience in an otherwise 60GB+ game, but you could say it serves as a good “apology”, as I like to put it, for how rough and unfocused the base game is. You can tell that, despite some cracks here and there, Steel Wool does have a lot of love for the FNAF series, and I can’t wait to see how Help Wanted 2 turns out, since I loved the first Help Wanted, which was easily the best FNAF game in a very long time.

At 5:49 is that the nightmare boss theme from dmc1? Damn i didnt think the editor liked dmc that much

I'm still very mixed on the Main Game of Security Breach, but Ruin was surprisingly pretty good. I love the darker tone it went for. The only thing I'm mixed on are the endings. The normal ending is pretty good and fits the tone of the game, but the other 2 endings feel kinda tacked on, as if they felt obligated to have different endings regardless of wether or not they make sense. Otherwise, I thought it was a scary good time.

My theory is that the burn trap was supposed to be the real ending but due to the criticism they faced for bring back spring trap for the 500th time they retconned it and decided to make princess quest the real ending

2:01 i believe whoever said that was referring to the fact that you replied to phisnom, who's caught up in a big situation about sending gore and death threats to minors. still an extremely strange thing to tell someone though

I think the reason the endings cut you off roo early is because there will be more dlc expansions to cassies story. So, hear me out. Security takes place iver 1 full night at the pizzaplex, RUIN takes place over 1 full night at tge pizzaplex. The series is called five nights at freddys, so why not have 3 more expansion packs to not only live up to its namesake, but also fully flesh out ruin and security breach's gameplay.

Having an army of Montys after you would be scary as all hell

I love how every time LSMark clips Markiplier, he just loops the Markiplier crying gif

People actually think you want someone to be fired for that blunder? Damn dude, I'm sorry for ya, having that many haters that stupid

Mark tweeting that he played the game and twitter going berserk for no reason is the most twitter thing ever

I think its important to mention the illusion/bad ending could be seen as further confirmation of the Princess Quest ending, since its a similar graphic, minus Vanny and Helpie swapped with Freddy

I feel like everyone is in denial about how much of a disappointment ruin was. In my opinion, it is definitely not better than security breach. It was a buggy mess, but i actually had fun playing security breach. Ruin was just boring, they took away so many things that were good about security breach in place of AR. The only thing ruin did better than security breach is being less buggy and story pacing, and even those are up for debate... There's a lot more i can say about everything wrong with ruin but i don't feel like writing a novel

As much of a game blinder Security Breach was at launch, it was a memorable blunder and still a fan favorite with it's cast with all the fanart, fanfiction, and other fanworks for the series. FNAF didn't really slow down in its community, but Security Breach spawned a lot of content to the point where it could rival the first four games in the fan activity.

i think the reason people thought you didn't like it was it was formatted like an infamous kojima tweet where after making a long tweet about how much he liked shazaam he just tweeted "Saw Captain Marvel."

I didn’t like certain aspects of Ruin and thought it was just an okay DLC at best. I commented my thoughts underneath a tweet where somebody asked what people thought of Ruin, and oh boy did i get some upset replies from FNaF fanboys lmao. Even had a small amount of death threats over not liking aspects of the DLC 💀

Hey its that one game with the hot wolf and feddy

The entire Steel Wool team basically acknowledged the feature creep that Security Breach had and apologized for it, which is what made Security Breach ruin at all. I respect Steel Wool for that and if feature creep doesn't come back then help wanted 2 is going to be great.

just so you know, the mimic was created in 2019ish but scott didnt really tell steel wool what it was and just told them to make another springtrap so thats why it was so weird

Hey, honestly a good point about the books and how they shouldnt be necessary when playing the game. I for example kinda dropped off halfway into Fazbear Frights. Not cause I didnt like it, but because I couldnt keep up with releases and the expenses. Tales of the Pizzaplex is kinda intimidating me right now, with how many books are out at the moment, and i really dont wanna spoil myself if i do end up reading them, so I also just know surface level stuff about the Mimic. Also, from what I know, the name 'Brazil ending' is a refference to a movie.

1:51 absolute Twitter moment

The Roxy stuff dropped the ball the most imo. Why is she the only animatronic to not be innately hostile? Why the fake-out death? How did she suddenly get stuck underneath that forklift? How did she suddenly get unstuck from underneath that forklift? (Seriously, wtf was up with the forklift?)

Seeing you get pulled in to the Phisnom stuff for a moment was WILD, Twitter sure is a place

I'd actually be hyped to see you make a video on either the entirety of DMC or just the fifth game itself, the fifth game has so much lore about Vergil and his redemption arc (its been out for 4 years your spoiler warning expired) and despite Neros little speech at the very end being a bit cringe and sorta akin to how they defeated discord in MLP in my opinion, DMC 5 is still my comfort game and Vergil my comfort character. I would LOVE to see your sarcastic self do a review on these; I know I'd get a kick out of it!

the fact people thought he was a gore supporter is insane, like actually how? legitimately how do you do that?

I'm just gonna say it, the dlc is just one big walkback, everything that people hated about base security breach was walked back in this dlc, gregory being unlikable? Turn hiim into a straight up villian, hated afton being alive? Congrats he was the mimic all along..... talk about no confidence lmao

Well-made video Mark! But i do have a question. You had a clip of a streamer running away at the time of 0:33 can someone tell me who that is cuz that actually made me laugh.

i did not expect to hear running from evil from doom 2 in an ls mark video