Does Hedi Slimane Suck?? 

The question is how do you afford BOTH celine and coke

If Slimane had his own house and everything was done under one name then no one would have a problem with it, like Rick and Yohji have been doing the same sort of stuff for decades and get away with it because its their house. If Rick went to Gucci what do you think it would look like?

Hedi is the perfect designer for people into the rock scene. Just like I don’t necessarily have to like streetwear or sneakers for myself personally means I have to hate on it. I own pieces from every collection Hedi has done (including the Dior Homme I wear regularly) and my husband and I share them. Hedi is a great designer for rocker types and we know it’ll be something that we won’t ever get rid of. But hating on him would be like me hating on a designer that just does hoodies and sneakers. You don’t have to hate on artists just because it’s not for you. I can’t wear a Balenciaga ball gown to the grocery store but I can wear a Chelsea boot and moto jacket. There’s space for all in fashion.

From what little I've closely looked at Hedi Slimane's work at his various houses, it is clear that he has achieved what I imagine a lot of designers and artists strive for, and that is having your work be instantly recognizable as your work and that is in itself a feat worth praising him for.

i love hedis work but I have a problem with him switching houses so much. Because he leaves leaving a sortof hedi-fallout, wherein the new designers has to go on working from hedis vision towards his own because the hedi stuff sold well and the big people upstairs dont want to risk financial income. And that transfer from hedi to the vision of the new designer takes a couple of seasons. And still even after that hedis signature will still be there somehow, like some radiation. It will never truly go away. And because hedis signature is so "normal" it slowly takes away a bit of expressionism. And I love that as well. Thats my 2 cents. Would love to hear what u think.

Hedi shows what people want and what he sells. Look at other brands that have these massive shows full of walking art pieces, but all their sales are logo tees and chunky sneakers. Hedi is playing a different game, but the end result is the same - profits. There is still place for art in fashion, but not all art has to be ground-breaking and flashy. Hedi's art is the coolness of rock & roll, the lifestyle of a rockstar, the beauty of simplicity, black and white photography, street-scouted models and real stories, real people. You can go look at contemporary art and it will shock & amuse you, or you can go to a photo exhibition and look at real stories, feel a connection. A lot of fashion is like contemporary art, but Hedi's fashion is more like his photography - real & true to itself. You can't say that he is bad at what he does, because he is not. He is just not doing the same thing that everyone else is doing - he creates pieces that make you feel something when worn, not pieces that change who you are.

Hedi and Rick are the only designers that have made me change my body

For me Hedi Slimane was the first menswear designer I fell in love with, It all came down to his idea of manhood and how a man could look like. Growing up and even now, I was always pretty skinny and feminine and seeing his first menswear show for Saint laurent that was the first time i saw guys like me on a runway. Guys who weren't macho hypebeasts nor pretentious crowns, that was a maculinity that I could relate to. There is something witing his work that resonate with a lot of young men, specialy those who don't fit into the traditional definition of what a "man" is.

Honestly, Hedi has been one of my favourite designers ever since I got into fashion. There have even been brands that pretty much blatantly copied his signature "Cocaine sniffing, Rock & Roll trust fund kid" look, such as Amiri and Enfants Riches Deprimes. I would argue that those brands would have never existed, or not existed in the way they do today, if it hadn't been for Hedi. If the question is "Is Hedi a good designer?", then we must indeed determine what qualifies whether a designer is good or bad. His clothes sell so well, to the point that other people can successfully imitate him. Does that make him a good designer? He always produces the same garments, regardless of house. Does that make him lazy? In my opinion, he does not even produce identical clothes at each house. Sure they are similar, but one would argue that that is his signature style, the same way that when you hire an expressionist painter to make an expressionist painting, you don't want him to give you a modernist painting and call it a day. When you compare his work at Celine and SLP, we can tell that he started using more subtle draping and flaring for men. It adds a more feminine look to what has previously exclusively been a female house. I believe he truly understands the spirit of the house he works at, and captures it perfectly while maintaining that aesthetic. Furthermore, everything he makes is just so commercially perfect. When I imagine a pair of sunglasses, Hedi has made those exact sunglasses that I had envisioned, ten times over. When I think of a sleek, leather boot, Hedi has made it in the same color, material and shape that I had in mind. He caters to the male consumer in an effective way. Some days, I might not want to wear a Craig Green coat that is a literal tent, or a pair of margiela pants that are literally made inside out, when I am going out for groceries. But what am I going to do, go to H&M for a "normal" bomber and hoodie? No, I'll just throw on an slp teddy and Haider Perth hoodie.

Hedi did, to his credit, change fashion. It's a meme at this point but skinny jeans in the noughties is largely thanks to him. But that's not why he's my favourite designer. You touched on it, but the reason I follow Hedi's career is because, to me, he just makes really fucking cool clothes. They fit me well and make me feel good when I wear them out. It honestly doesn't matter to me what people think, but when I wear his designs, people who don't care about fashion might be inclined to say something positive. While I love Rick as a designer, I find his clothes largely unwearable, and let's be honest - to any 'normie' - they look ridiculous. Hedi is a master at what he does, and I can understand the hate for completely shunning the history of a given house (though, actually, he's obsessive about referencing house codes), but at this point I do think the hate has become a meme amongst people who reject anything that isn't avant-garde or overtly 'fashun'. PS - I don't know if you care for perfume, Bliss, but the CELINE perfumes Hedi put together are fantastic. I won't try to sell you on the clothes.

Hedi brings the most classic rock pieces to fashion. Everyone can do a denim jacket, but the way he styles the denim jacket and how he himself wears it is what makes it cool. His love for music and photography wrapped him in that world. I swear when I put on a black hedi denim jacket or blazer I know that I'll still rock it with a t-shirt or button shirt with a necklace in 10 years. He might change the cut a bit over time like he's doing with Celine, but it'll always be undeniably Hedi.

The layering with the scarf, brown under shirt, and white scoop neck shirt is phenomenal. It makes me want to go devote some time on hunting down awesome silk scarfs.

It's more about a sense of loss of Phoebe Philo's Celine than Slimane himself. Let's remember women felt especially furious and sad about Philo's departure. Celine used to make this very unique, special, and much-needed-but-hardly-produced women's clothing. Philo's design was more than just for clothes; it was also a way of looking at and thinking about women, their roles and capabilities. Many women loved her clothes even when they could not afford it because they could see the dream version of themselves in her Celine. Slimane's style will live on. It has rooted in the fashion world so firmly. Although Slimane retires, his style will be reproduced for at least a generation. You said his collection at Dior was revolutionary. Maybe it was in a way it was different from what we had seen before. So was Philo's Celine. She has created women's image that is so beautiful and powerful in the industry which suppresses and also is most consumed by women often with narrow standards of beauty. Celine showed you don't have to hide your femininity, or pretend to loathe to be a woman to show your power. Celine didn't shout or poke its clothes into people's eyes. It was just there, and they could immediately understand what it tried to show; Confident, capable and beautiful modern women. Now Slimane directs Celine and what Celine used to make has stopped being made. Phoebe Philo's works are nowhere to be found or produced. At least not yet.

Remember how you woke up one day in the early 2000s and everyone was wearing skinny jeans? You can thank hedi slimane for that

I just think it’s a shame what he has done to Celine, just like to me, Ricardo Tisci did to Burberry. Change is necessary, but I wish those brands wouldn’t rebrand themselves so drastically in a way that people lose touch with the brand.

I'm kind of the old guy here. Back in 1998, skinny guy like me didn't have an alternative to baggy/skate stuff, everybody cool at that time was muscular. He was one of the first to tell : you can assume your body if you're slim. So thanks to him, he redifine the silhouette and show an exit to bling that ruled at this times.

"Hedi sucks because he doesn't produce clothes like Phoebe does." - Diet Prada, probably.

Thank you bliss your content is top notch. Bliss the realist seeing from both sides. Definitely opened my perspective

I think people take for granted a good fitted outfit the simplicity of a leather jacket , Jeans ,white T-shirt and a boot is remarkable I’m always amazed by how as humans we construct that. Simplicity does not mean basic ,producing something that last for decades it’s tough and it’s truly a work of genius.

Hey Bliss, I really like the effort you made by questionning your own subjectivity. French sociologist Eve Chiapello wrote a whole book on the artistic critic of management. The book is called "Artistes vs. Managers : le management culturel face à la critique artiste". It's a really interesting book to understand why it often seems to be a gap between the artistic world and the business world. I'm not sure it got translated into english but I have another recommandation : "On justification - Economies of Worth" by Luc Boltanski (Christian's brother) and Laurent Thévenot. The reason why it's hard for you to legitimize Hedi Slimane as a designer is because you consider the worth of a designer based on his creativity/inspiration, which they would explain as a conflict between the inspired and the market/opinion world. The book is a bit big but you can find some short articles reviewing their theory.

this was so well thought-out, love your take

Been waiting for this episode

if i wanted to fit into Hedi’s work i’d have to go on a coke binge for a week to drop from 140lbs to 120lbs

The kind of comments of Hedi being the only one copying H&M and Zara and not the way around is kind of silly because Hedi created this aesthetic that in that time was so well received and relatable to many people that fast fashion make it their own and worked.

Hedi is the first designer that got me interested in fashion. Nowadays I’m constantly having this battle of if I want to wear his clothes, which I think conform to a more modern standard of beauty/looking good. Or, if I want to wear the clothes of more ‘artistic’ and ‘expressive’ designers like the ones you mentioned. It’s tough!

I mean he did revoltionise (if thats even a word) the fashion scene with his skinny jeans, poeple before used to wear staight or even flared and with his tight tie trend that he had pionierd he actually made the 2000s in a way back than at dior. I also think hes a nice person he doesnt have many interviews but he seems like a nice introvert and we could share alot about music and stuff

I love Slimanes fashion style principally because It’s so accessible. I can recreate his looks with cheap clothes and THAT is inspiring to me, whereas some wild crazy outfit is simply not.

I think people would have the same problem with rick if he went to the to saint laurent or celine , he has a very diffinitve(?) style , and so it wouldn’t be saint laurent , it would be rick’s saint laurent , same as it’s not celine, it’s hedis interpretation of celine . Really he needs his own brand to sculpt as that’s where he could shine imo.

Okay coming from someone who was a teenager during the YSL years of Hedi and was on tumblr he did have a big impact from the male fashion side that influenced the women. I see him in the same vein with popularizing soft grunge, vintage Americana nostalgia and somehow mixed with American Horror Story Coven "we wear black" aesthetics. The boys and girls did exalt thinness online but that sadly has been a norm with fluctuating body types being "en vogue", but he definitely was part of that subculture zeitgeist in mixing in with indie rock music and classic rock, the styling of the 70s with a new 2010s spin and a little bit of nu goth. It was fun, new, and very distinctive and I was in love. Of course it was not permanent as all fashions are, but he has still made a huge impact and I see it in the evolution of male artists (Harry Stles especially) and most men's suits being sold are still slim fit with skinny ties and lapels from that modish rocker chic he brought back from 60s rock. Does it sell well, yes. Is it easily replicatable because it's so damn distinctive, yes. Should he FINALLY open his own house, yes. Are we owed anything like it, debatable. The man can do what he wants, and has become successful in the vein of doing what he wants. There is also something to be said about imitation as the sincerest form of flattery. So conclusions, he has had a big impact, and especially from my point of view growing up online, and he will remain controversial. That's kinda his thing, just like Rock and Roll, pushing opinions and boundaries. I can admire his consistency and vision, it's very distinct and doesn't have to be for everyone, that's why it's fashion. Art comes in many shapes and forms, and commercial viability has been an argument in post modernism for some time. Whether that can be applied here is debatable, but either way Hedi will continue to be Hedi, people will debate over Hedi, and the world will keep turning with new trends and changes regardless what Hedi is doing in his little corner of the industry he's carved out for himself.

So I am very very slim mainly bc of my metabolism problems so for me, being told my entire childhood that I look wierd and that im not a “man” to see hedi come out year after year with clothing that makes people like me look absoultely kick ass is very special he caters to a very specific audience and I like to think that audience is people like me, like him his comments and views on masculinity also helped me out immensely over the years His looks are very repetitive, but I do see expression in them as its basically Hedi flipping off everyone who ever called him slurs for designing clothing or dressing the way he wanted and that to me, is very special ;)

I accidentally stumbled on this channel and I already love it. This video gives off very "Good Eats" and Alton Brown vibes

Hedi Slimane got me to actually care about clothing and how I dressed back when he was at Dior Homme. In my opinion there is nothing wrong with his clothing. Classic menswear with a flattering silhouette existed before Hedi and will exist after he is gone. So blaming him for destroying fashion seems silly to me. The one thing that he did that I think can maybe contribute to that is that his clothing was really only designed for extremely thin people. Other designers also latched onto this and made it even more extreme. After a while A LOT of high fashion became inaccessible to anyone that did not have a certain body type. I think that was one of the contributing factors to the rise of streetwear in high fashion. There is nothing wrong with streetwear. It's highly accessible to anyone. But if you want to talk about art being gone from fashion...there is only so much you can do with T-Shirt, Jeans, and Shoes. People are more limited in the way they can express themselves with those pieces and fashion becomes an accessories game. Other people mentioned how he changes existing fashion houses and that seems to be a major problem people have with him to but other people already explained that in the comments.

COMEDY ALERT! THE FOLLOWING TEXT HAS BEEN DEEMED HILARIOUS BY THE COMEDY COUNCIL! Slimane? More like Slim man haha 😂

Hey Bliss, I just came across your page a few days ago and I really like it. Your enthusiasm, curiosity, and passion is evident and adds to the well thought out of information you present. Keep up the good work, Thanks... Also, I’d love for you to talk about JW Anderson if you get the chance.

Congrats Bliss on your first Showstudio panel! I always wanted you to be part of them. You should host them. 😁😁😁

i guess Hedi's work is very intertwined with the lifestyle he lives by rock and roll, music as a way of life which is an interesting roll of fashion, communicating lifestyles. and to study the way fashion influences music and the other way around is my passion

5:12 this is important! also love the video bliss

I think one of the reasons that Hedi Slimane is heavily successful commercially is in part to the fact his designs are extremely approachable. Not everyone enjoys a Rockabilly aesthetic 24/7/365, but the people that do are willing to spend the money to encompass this vibe. I think that Hedi Slimane is important to fashion the same way Karl Lagerfeld is, in the way that they inhabit the same creative archetype: the producer. Someone once told me at school that there are different types of creatives, and everyone has a purpose when it comes to the bigger picture. Karl Lagerfeld was known to fervently create hundreds of sketches a day, supposedly worked from 4:00am-12:00am with no signs of fatigue at any point of the day, was a/an: illustrator, wardrobe stylist, photographer, curator… AND was responsible for creating the modern fashion calendar (which everyone is now trying to repeal). Karl was the penultimate producer. Sure, he bastardized Chanel slightly to give it the edge it needed, but he hasn’t changed fashion in extremely innovative ways. What consumers and buyers can expect from Karl every season, is the consistency that he will always make clothing that sells. Hedi is a similar type of creative-- he was a designer for Yves Saint Laurent and Dior Homme before taking a hiatus to further pursue his photographic endeavors. He created the Slimane silhouette, but he’s known for his rock and roll aesthetic, which he makes consistently. People expect this aesthetic and vibe from him, that his tenure at Saint Laurent tripled this Kerring brand’s earnings. The likes of Marc Jacobs, Rei Kawakubo, and Alexander McQueen, belong to the visionary archetype: the creatives that can imagine the impossible. These designers have revolutionized fashion in their own unique ways. Many of the pieces they create are not necessarily approachable, but their creations elevate fashion as art so that it can keep on innovating towards better and brighter things. Many of these visionaries most often will hire a designer who can produce diffusion lines that are approachable. In the most general of terms, it’s art and commerce-- some designers veer closer to the art side while some sway towards the commercial side.

Do you think this is also a framework to analyze the success of Maria Grazia Chiuri at Dior? In her case I think she left the art part to the show and also focuses on product

Hedi is a lot of the reason I continue to research fashion, coming from a self homeschooled knowledge of fashion I grew up in a lot of hm when they first started to appear in euro. Hedi style being so similar I really fell into a deep obsession with the fits and cuts of his piece and what separates them from a fast fashion. I really appreciate the work he does to keep such a solid style or ode to the time we live in with elevated fits, oh man do I love the fits

Hedi Slimane appropriates the street aesthetics of punks, metalheads, goths and indie kids. He takes homemade & vintage outfits, elevates the quality of material, and relabels them as high fashion. He’s a genuine culture vulture (though he's not the only designer doing this). I’d like to see him create more original work, which I know he is capable of. Else his legacy risks becoming one that is a derivative of the street cultures he glorifies. I do think it's funny that he's getting the elites walking around in extremely expensive clothing that pass off as thrift store finds.

I think hedi as designer is very good. His pieces arent art but theyre mature, have attitude and are propably the biggest cool kid clothes out there

This is only the second opinion video on a designer I've watched and unlike in the first, you are a reasonable thoughtful human being and I appreciate that. Nice video.

His footwear and aesthetic is god Level to be honest 🤷🏽‍♂️

Great deep dive! I've been rockin' with Hedi since wayyyyyyyyyyyyy back when he was appointed by Tom Ford (as I understand it) to oversee Yves Saint Laurent the FIRST time; sometimes I think it gets overlooked that Hedi did two tours of duty at YSL - the first time when he didn't have the clout just yet to touch the Yves Saint Laurent moniker in full and then his triumphant post-Dior Homme turn where he was basically like "A'ight, we finna change some sh*t...." His first pass at YSL just amazed me - I was in a far different income bracket back then, and so I was only able to acquire a few pieces from his fantastic tenure there. His Dior Homme era still has a special place in my heart, and the later seasons there definitely set the template for what he'd end up doing at Saint Laurent. Admittedly at first I was dismayed by what he was sending down the runways at Saint Laurent - I was hoping for more of the inventiveness he'd pulled off with his first go-around at YSL and during particular Dior Homme seasons. Don't get me wrong - I was STILL buying certain pieces from that second Saint Laurent stint - but to the point of your video, I think at that time I wasn't really assessing what Hedi's process was. When he reappeared at Celine, I continued my "same ol' same ol'" gripe - BUT, it was then that I think I started to notice the method to the madness. When I look at my pieces from his various eras and tenures - the YSL first run, Dior Homme, the Saint Laurent prodigal son return, his Celine residency - you immediately realize how there's a classicism and timelessness that runs through each item - knits, suits, boots. I've got something of a small, carefully curated archive of his entire design trajectory, and each investment piece bears the clear mark of the man - but they're from different years and yet are all still eminently wearable. My son's 12 and if he is into this same aesthetic once he's old enough to fit this stuff, he'll be able to rock essentially all of it without looking ridiculous or dated. So maybe that IS Slimane's genius, if you will - or rather his process, or maybe call it the method to his madness - he repeats himself while still achieving the minutest evolutionary steps, which gives a glaring consistency to his work that is often imitated but never quite replicated. Respect.

Hedi’s clothes and all it’s derivatives (Amiri, Kooples, Sandro etc) do one thing really well, it looks really cool and I feel really cool wearing it , something about slim jacket + cool button down + skinny pant + pointy boot just looks really nice IMO, and evidently is my go to combo during the fall - early winter months

I literally watched this while wearing my 2011 Phoebe philo era Celine shirt... no hate, that is all🙃

Loved..."I'm not saying that" but you left it in, definitely the high point of my weekend lolz

Making clothes tht r practical to wear and looks good in ur day to day life tht has the quality of a designer house isnt a bad thing

He does have those breathaking moments too, tho. That last show for Saint Laurent was amazing, surely it’s not the way Raf Simons’ amazing, but that doesn’t make it less great. He’s more about detail, quality and nuances. Still a crime what he did to phoebe philo’s Céline, but we can get that mood in Bottega Veneta now so 🙃

I adore hedi’s style, actually now he is in Celine we can now see him branching out and trying other styles. His clothes embodies elegant but edgy, eccentric but classic and really street wear like clothes that look perfect in formal setting

I am surprised no one recalls Burberry Prorsum with Christopher Bailey punk rock aestetic in conjunction with Slimane. They came approximately during the same time, and Burberry was really big at this time, together with the obsession of brit-pop and related UK indie sleaze. I recall late 2000, and everything were Burberry, trench/motorcycle jacket hybrids were everywhere, but nowadays Slimane is still afloat, and Burberry tanked.

Thank you!

thanks bliss

Only issue is I'll never fit into size 27 1 of 1 runway sample chain embellished n sequin pants. N if i ever do it wouldn't be sustainable health wise n im currently size 28 or 29.

Couldn’t expect a better video on a subject like this thank you foster! I would like to add that THIS IS IT‼️ Hedi has his (dark) vision and spend all his career to spread his vision and it worked apparently otherwise why would they give him the creative director position lol - hedi is my second favorite designer and the first is yves, I think he really have his own vision, and wouldn’t be impressed that matthew (that I absolutely love) will copy his work for givenchy... hedi knows how to make clothes, he know how to sell an image... he is a photographer

Absolutely love him

I love this guy. I love you bliss foster. Yessir i said it

BLISS GO OFF !!!😂😂😂

I also don't really think that it's fair when people say that all his work is the same at Dior, Saint Laurent, and Celine. One common theme is obviously the skinny silhouette, but as the saying goes, the devil is really in the details. One place where I believe that this can be seen is in his denim. At Dior, obviously his denim was popular (like you mentioned in the video, that's how a lot of people, like ASAP Rocky, got into fashion). However, while still skinny, you can see from the looks in his shows that the jeans are longer and have quite a few stacks. This is in contrast to when he was at Saint Laurent, where the jeans are more cropped with no breaks in them. Then we move to Celine, where the wash on the denim is much lighter, and where the jeans are flared instead of being skinny throughout, as well as being less cropped. In a more general sense, from what I've seen, I believe that his work at Dior made use of more suiting and trousers etc. With his work at Saint Laurent, I feel he used more leather and casual silhouettes, with a darker colour palette and a lot of black, and obviously popularised heeled boots like the Wyatts. With his work at Celine, the colour palette changed and he made use of more browns and blue denim, perhaps paying homage to styles that were more popular in the 70s. This could also be seen in the way he styles the models hair etc. I've also heard people talk about how he's started to reference the Celine archive. I'd love to hear your thoughts though, this is just from someone who is a beginner in the world of high fashion.

I think that Hedi focuses on a things that aren't as flashy/ seen at first when you look at clothes which is a very proper cut. I get the feeling the clothes always look just like he wanted them to. Plus when it comes to his fashion there is a huge accessibility factor- the clothes are tame but very chic. Last thing I want to add is the actual depth when you go through his runways and tenures at different houses, as each tenure is inspired by slightly different subcultures.

wow now I want to know your thought on his new Celine collection

it's hard to think of Saint Laurent before Hedi, when it was Yves. Maybe it might be because i'm too young idk, but when i thing of Saint Laurent, wyatt boots and leather jackets, teddy jacket and skinny denim

I alway get chills when I hear someone pronouncing saint laurent like that.

Just so you know hedis team such as Alberto who’s worked with hedi for almost a decade makes everything under hedi if anything its his right hand man he barely gets recognition same with the Swedish fashion owner of sun flower his name is bengt he designed the most iconic pieces under hedi for 2014-2015 or kris van assche under hedi pre dior homme when kris basically made hedi for who he is today. I wish ppl did research like this who can appreciate hedis work. These designers under hedi need the spot light.

Fashion is all about change. Repeat is redundant. 20004 skinny is still being worn today. His clothes are practical and wearable and timeless. Black is always in

Okay unrelated but wooow you look so good

i vividly recall the aftermath of hedi from 2003-2007 and it's understandable that children born later than 1997 wouldn't have been able to comprehend what hedi did at that time. its just a rock and roll ethos. hedi wasn't the first but, the generation hedi designed for had the internet and i think the exclusivity and allure of being skinny in hedi's work is what caused it to spread rapidly. i wonder why exclusivity and price are so alluring. i am anti-fashion in a way because fashion is so expensive. i make clothing and i completely understand the price of art and quality products, yet being a relatively obscure human i learned how to make my own clothes to save money AND express myself with sincerity and depth. so, i see fashion as a sort of instrument. in reality, you can simply sing, yell, clap and stomp your feet. this personal sound is ultimately as unique as playing a guitar.

what you are wearing always give a list

im not a fan of manyof his clothes but i actually really like some of those slim and slightly flared suits

the beard, the new frames and the hair growth? wow what a beautiful man

I think to me, the root cause of this Hedi hate comes from the transfer of tribes within the fashion house of Celine. Both Hedi and Phoebe focus on a particular archetype of woman and are associated with completely polarizing subcultures. But at the same time if you really see, Hedi never gave Celine a complete rebranding but infact it was a revival back to the original Celine from Celine Vipiana era. If you see the early archives of Vipianas celine alongside the logo, it is very similar to Hedi Slimanes Celine. We naturally associate the house with Phoebe because of how Phoebe's entry was a strong and bold rebranding for celine at that time - it was an extension to the Celine woman, something unchartered yet so familiar for an existing Celine customer. And also taking into account the idea of how sensitive subcultures like Rock N Roll can be and this purist need for it to have strict laws governing the same. It is indeed controversial but also much needed. I have always been a Hedi Dior boy and I love Phoebe celine, and I remember in the early days, I hated Hedi Celine. But little did I know that this rebranding was more of a revival and personally being into more product centric brands like Veilance and Acronym myself, that's where I started finding love for Hedi celine.

I personally quite like Hedi Slimane's work, because of how strong his design language is. I remember watching one of Ayo's videos, and he spoke of how a good way to get into high fashion is to pick one designer and learn about his/her work, and I feel like doing that with Hedi is like looking at high fashion on easy mode, because his design language is so strong. The common theme in all his work is the skinny silhouette, and he has mentioned before that he uses it to try and redefine the idea of masculinity, with him being quite skinny since young. There are also clear links between his work and rock music, and I think that this is really interesting because you can see how enamoured he is with this scene from his photography work as well. Perhaps his work may not be the most experimental, but I don't agree when people say that it isn't expressive. I feel like he is expressing himself through the medium of clothing and putting his life and his passion on full display to the world, like what he does with his photography, and I think his unwavering love for the rock music scene is special to see in itself.

I can’t say I dislike Hedi’s work with Celine but I can definitely see why many fashion lovers today really condemn him. I feel like he does a very specific look very well but really never strays very far from where he’s comfortable. Given his resources at Saint Laurent and now Celine I think people perceive a lack of creativity and a lack of willingness to push boundaries whereas many very much value designers that are really reaching out and creating art. All in all I find that keeping up with Hedi just feels like “oh hedi worked on a new collection? Is it really damn skinny jeans, boots to accommodate how skinny the jeans are and tops and jackets inspired by either formal militaria, Americana, or rocker styles? Yup that’s a hedi collection alright.” No hate though, would absolutely love a pair of SLP Wyatts from the hedi era. One day...

I love Hedi Slimane but it probably has to do with my idea of fashion, I got into fashion through sneakers but not because of any rapper or hyped up release, it was mainly because the shoes I liked made me feel like a superhero, like I had powers for having them on. Hedis clothes are similar in that they give off a super cool and stylish vibe that I just feel like I cant get anywhere else. My all time favorite show is Saint Laurent F/W 16 simply because it has been engraved in my mind as my perfect idea of style, just people having fun and looking cool. To me Hedi’s work is artful, just in his own way. Sure he doesnt make wakcy and intricate dresses but he caters to people like me, who live in places of the world where it isnt as acceptable to wear more experimental pieces and brands. Then there is the fact that Hedi also styles looks with reallly slim models, something that I really like because I suffer from a dangerously fast metabolism and therefore most clothes look too big on me, that is most except Hedi’s.

great video but also *oh my god those glasses are so cool what are they*

Hedi is taking a sort of revenge after his Dior era. LVMH didn’t want Hedi to have his own brand . Since then he decided he is going to do whatever he wanted wherever he is doing, which is doing what he does best HediSlimane!

His clothes look cool and If I could acquire it I'd probably feel cool wearing some of it. Rockstar clothes make you feel like a rockstar, which isn't a bad thing. However this is mostly an external appreciation, not an internal one like that sensation of wearing Rick, but clothing is an external medium, does it have to strong internal affects as well?

he's a genius

An artist that I follow on youtube, and has made a place for himself as an artist, what ever that means, believes that there is more integrity in finding what is with in you the artist, over trying to be spectacular. After finding out what is within, he suggests developing the hell out of it, rather than trying to create statement after statement. Thats just one opinion. Fashion can be art, but at the end of the day, we do need clothes to wear. I make art, but it is not necessary for me to wear it. I love the art of fashion though. Im probably not adding much here lol. As far as standards go with art, quality and intention is what care about. I like to have a reason beyond the first glance, to keep looking. If all pf what is being presented, is beauty or cool, that is fine, but I do want to be drawn in somehow. I don't need to know the artists thoughts on the work, or what the process is, though that is interesting, and I do like learning about it, but with the art itself, I want to form my own conclusions and have my own experience. I do want to get a feeling from what I am seeing. When it comes to clothes and wearing them, does it really matter what went down the runway? The creativity is passed on from the designer to the wearer. Fashion shows have become somewhat of a production, and that is not bad, it is creative expression, but like I said, at the end of the day, we are talking about clothes, Or are we talking about money? Brands like what sell, the designer/ artist is not necessarily concerned with making money, but like it or not, money speaks, and that could be a part of what is going on here. I don't know. I did not know Hedi before today. Maybe he needs to have his own house :) I about choked on that last comment. LOL Note to self, don't drink anything whilst listening to Bliss.

I’m liking the new facial hair.

i like your new look a lot

I was wondering about how the possibility that hedi designs how he does to create a lifestyle. Although he doesn't do it to the degree as say yohji or Rick Owens does it I feel that maybe that's why he designs, So the question I have for you is do you feel that hedi should design for runway or should he focus on adverts and campaigning for the spread of his clothing and lifestyle?

i just think it’s nuts how when i started getting into fashion via the internet and not just reading books or magazines, hedis work was EVERYWHERE. you couldn’t scroll tumblr without seeing his ads or something that he shot or people posting his runway photos. I feel like people don’t realize that in 2022 there are a lot of “Hedis” in the industry. I mean that in the sense of there’s certain designers that just will not waiver in their creativity or expression just to appease a certain marker. Hedi makes things he likes and it happens to be really sellable (at least it seems so) and other designers today are taking that same approach and kind of calling it sustainability. by not making things they don’t care for or pointless collabs it’s seen as them preserving in some way or at least that’s how it’s reported by other fashion people.

I won't wear Celine if its still the old aesthetic. It's just not my style. I love rock songs and i put them into my lifestyle. His cloth is like classic rock that i can wear it forever. Just bought his leather jacket. So expensive but it is the gem in my wardrobe. All of my celine clothes can be matched so easily. Also, his perfume are amazing.

It's not just about the immediate sales with Hedi, it also establishes the brand in people's heads as a brand that is worth looking at and worth spending money on, and that effect lasts after he leaves. It's a very subtle and powerful brand awareness and I think it's worth it's weight in gold because it can re-establish a brand

I'm a huge Hedi fan bought some stuff from when he was at Saint Laurent and now Celine. u just have to be a Hedi fan to really understand him and he's designs

Hedi is my first love in fashion even if his clothes don’t fit me well. Does he suck? I think it’s covered well in your video. The matter is more complicated than it seems. It really does depend on what you want from a fashion designer. Hedi designs clothes that you can still wear years from now. It might not capture a period in culture but it is plain, simple good clothing. In the dizzying cycle fashion is in, I think it’s refreshing. That Gucci t-shirt everyone bought three years ago is embarrassing to wear now. I though believe there’s a problem with his Celine. There is a disconnect. He is fully aware of what the house originally was, pre-Philo. I think he is successful with blending that heritage with his aesthetic, even if he can be a bit too literal. I believe he wants to imbue more history for Celine to survive long-term. However I feel like his stubbornness clashes with the clothes. This might be the time that he won’t get away with it. There is a disconnect with his clothes, womenswear in particular, and how his presents it. Whilst the clothes themselves are laidback and romantic, Hedi’s presentation is just a bit dry. The punk-rock chicks don’t want a literal take on the70s. There’s no edge. Since he took over Celine too, his clothes just lacked sex appeal. His Celine is dry and not seductive. Even if the clothes themselves are well-made. I’m really rooting for him to get a bigger job, but that would only happen if he will let go a bit. Even Karl said it himself. He has an eye for detail and consistency that many designers today do not have. If his Celine ultimately fails, I hope it wakes him up a bit. I don’t think he’s interested in having his own house. His ego can’t take it when it fails.

hedi has his vision and keep up with that, he doesn't care about trend and honesty his clothes fits like a glove, make me feel powerful and sure. Anyway it's funny to me that they have a lot to say about Hedi and not noise for Virgil

I like this Designer

His Time at Dior is Wat Got a lot of Street wear Guys into Fashion, but Also there Needs to be a Places Wear you can Get instant Cool n Classic.

I guess what's the difference between those clothes and the vetememts DHL shirt.

i really wish i got a hold of this video way earlier because my thought process was sort of the same; like i didnt really *love* his clothes but i sort of get the appeal. my only issue however is how he seems to have no artistic evolution- if someone put in front of me his work from dior, ysl, and celine all in a row it would take me a hot min to sort them out. not to mention his whole rebranding of celine, i feel at this point he should just launch his eponymous label because i mean at this stage of his career, he has a ton of fans and maybe even be able to snag an investment from LVMH......

Who makes that shirt you’re wearing? Is it all one piece?

Hedi is second coming of Gabrielle Chanel and Yves Saint Laurent. He is a living legend. Time proves Hedi is legend, because we can't see it when it happens. I always kept obsessive eye on fashion since I remember, and I am 40. I was crazy about Tom Ford Gucci when it appeared and all the way till the end. When Hedi appeared I "registered" it, thought was ok, but nothing groundbreaking like I felt when Tom first appeared. Second Slimane sign from above was SLP and I was so mad for taking off Yves and whole rebranding and again, "underwhelming" collection. Then came 2020s and I understood. He is perfectionist. Everything he does he does to last from both material quality standpoint and from fact that you can dress his pieces from 20 years ago, not look ridiculous wearing them, and mix them seamlessly with his pieces from 10 years ago. If that ain't good fashion designer then I don't know what good fashion designer is. Tom and John gave us sugar highs, beautiful ones, but time limited ones. Hedi gives us eternity of style, like Gabrielle and Yves did. But we don't see it fully yet.

I don't dislike Hedi. I dislike LVMH's move to put Hedi in the helm of Celine. Celine could have evolved more by still pulling from Phoebe's aesthetic. The point here is that fashion should play the game of musical chairs in a more "sustainable" way and thinking of the long-term. What saddens me most is the fact that recently opened and designed Celine stores during Phoebe's time are going to be taken down and replaced by Hedi's store concept. The thing is, if we want fashion to be more sustainable, perhaps doing a 180° move aestherically is not the answer. If one brand wants to evolve whilst not repeating its predecessor, then be it, but they have to transition slowly and as swiftly as possible. An Hedi appointment would only work best for a brand that has been stale for several years. Take for example, Phoebe when she took over. By the time she designed for Celine, the brand has not been getting the buzz it hopes for. Contrary to this is appointing Hedi as if Celine needs a complete facelift from Phoebe which I believe does not need any sort of saving. 😁😁😁

Hedi is a great character in style cool clothes with a street wave link I Celine

I was on the fence about subbing....but the phrase “I love you enough to eat ass after you’ve showered” tipped me over. Lol.

I hate him and hate what he did at YSL and Celine but he’s consistent and do his own shizz and he sells. So good for him. But at the end of the day, tailoring and fitting clothes never go out of the style

I loved this video, but I never experienced this pretext of "fuck this guy." Maybe this is because Hedi was one of the first designer I considered myself a fan of.