Thanks for watching! You can also watch how the new Wrangler's soft top and windshield folds down here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Q_nyjNS_Lb8.html
But it wasn't "raining" when he opened the door, that was his point. The gutter system doesn't protrude far enough forward because they redesigned the windshield so you could flop it on the hood in 5min.
The soft top on my JK works this same way too. Any water trapped in the gutter runs in when I open the door. But it's a jeep and I don't cry about water getting on the floor.
Vhey, even the hard-top on my JK leaks a bit of water into the cabin when you open the doors, so I guess it's a Jeep thing and most of us put-up with a bit of rough around the edges.
I can understsnd that but even my full hard tops can leak when the water is shooting at the windows sideways. I dont know what to think about that new top. I have torn my bikini tops on trees, that one would suck to have to replace.
Yeah mold and mildew is fun when it was your jeep that inflamed your respiratory system. Got rid of my wrangler soft top. Haven’t had any health issues
This rooftop design is similar to the sliding rooftops that were offered on some Jeep Liberty KKs. Looking at those should somewhat show how this sliding part will hold up over time
I have a 2008 Liberty with the sky slider roof. The roof still works and I open it every chance I get. The only leaking is at the automatic car wash and the dryer sucks the top up a little and lets water in. Otherwise, dry as a bone, snow and rain. I haven't traded it in because of the top.
This will be a huge issue if your in a cold weather climate like me. Water coming in that amount if you have carpet now your going to have mold issues. In warm weather you can remove the carpet & remove the drain holes in the floor. If someone on the passenger side your now going to have issues. I would give this a failure in cold weather areas.
Do the older wranglers have drain holes? I have a 2010, and a 7 year old. So there are pounds of crumbs and filth in my car. Would love to power wash the floorboards inside and let it drain. lol
This sliding top design is very similar to the sliding top that was offered on the Jeep Liberty for several years. We bought a Liberty for our son and found mixed reviews on the top. The problems seem to occur with age and ranged from leaks to alignment issues. Needless to say we stayed away from that top and got a hardtop. Hopefully Jeep has corrected those problems
I love the new improvements on these jeeps. I thought we would never see these modern features! Can’t wait to see how it hold up to the test of time! Another great video and review! Informative and entertaining as always.
You should have put the windshield down and back up before doing this. Then, we could have seen if the new folding windshield reseals where the JK's didn't.
The water dripping in after opening the door is of course something my 2016 does. The design of the current 3 piece freedom top tends to hold the standing water or direct it towards the B pillar instead of pouring in onto the dash. This may be a downfall of the retractable top only version.
I have a 2011 with a hard top and it it still pretty loud but the soft top I wouldn’t have if I had to drive on the highway it is terrible a couple of my friends bought jeeps with soft tops and it was unbelievable how much wind noise there is
cars used to have a drip edge over the door but, maybe to save cost or aerodynamics in the wind tunnel for mpg, it's pretty common for rain to run down into the vehicle. when i first bought my taco and had to open my window during the rain, it wasn't the rain coming in the window that was the issue. it was the waterfall off the roof pouring in that surprised me. vent visors can help with at least the first few inches of open window. no vehicle avoids water coming in entirely if you open the door outside during the rain.
My experience with switchgear is quite good when it comes to moisture. Old toggle switches continued to work after repeated moisture/dry cycles. I had problems with old wiring looms/insulation and routing.
I know this is a 2 year old comment but those people who don't live here don't get it. It rains in the winter. So when the water gets in, the windshield gets fogged up. When you go to start up the car in the morning. It can take FOREVER to see. You need a towel! Or worse is if it freezes- you end up having to scrape the INSIDE of your windshield too. Sure you have a defroster but that can take forever. You want to laugh? Move to the WetCoast, drive a Jeep in the winter, then we'll see who laughs.
Hard top JKs also have water pour in from the gutters when opening the doors in the rain, its no big deal. I'm sure Jeep made those new controls on the dash waterproof. Sometimes I'll just wipe my hand across the area and rid excess water before opening the door, but I mean your buying a Wrangler, its top or doors will eventually leak anyway. If you don't like it, Jeep offers plenty of other models that won't leak lol.
Mr god, ( lower case 'g' intended) Jeep has FINALLY figured out how to make a top that doesn't leak in a heavy rain shower! I do like those removable side/rear windows too.
Ok, I think I'm just going to hang on to my good old JKU. While the side panels and power roof are a technological improvement over the old hard and soft top, I have to say: it's a Jeep Wrangler. If I want something with a fancy power roof I buy a BMW. I bought my JKU used (1 year old, 10k miles) and the hard top only came off once - and is still hanging in my garage. I use a soft top all year round because in California that's much easier and there's no severe freezing weather to think of. Yes, all Jeeps leak. That's what the plugs in the bottom are for. If I want a boring car that doesn't leak - again, I buy a BMW. I got into my Jeep with 3 inches of water in the foot-well. Pull the plug - all good. Jeep Wrangler's are a lifestyle, not a statement. No matter how much the Jeep Company wants to turn a JKU into a Land Rover - it's not a Land Rover. They should just embrace what makes a Jeep a Jeep - it's a bit like that venison roast over an open camp fire - no amount of microwave will ever bring back that flavor. Just stick to it for crying out loud.
"A boring car that doesn't leak" "BMW"... I feel like there are plenty of other significantly more boring and affordable brands to make your point here, like Toyota or Nissan. Nonetheless, Jeep has made a livable vehicle with modern technology that both retains on existing off-road prowess AND improves on it, while also making it a much more bearable daily driver. Let people complain, these things will still fly out of dealerships at stupid rates.
I have, although I liked the 420d better (mostly because it's convertible and they did an excellent job on the diesel engine), together with a collection of other fast cars - simply because my uncle was a ralley mechanic and we took the cars on the track for "test drives" :-) Still, the Wrangler is the most fun to drive. Yes, a M3 is much better when it comes to pretty much everything, but it can't go off-road and where I live now the roads are so miserable that I wonder how people can enjoy driving the speed limit in a Porsche or any other sports car (the speed limit here being 65mph - around 100km/h which defies the purpose of having a sports car unless you need it as male enhancement). Plus I rarely have a top on my jeep - which is already at least 1/3 of the fun.
I took a BMW because it's the only convertible I ever had and it had power roof and didn't leak. Yes, I agree, there's a lot of other vehicles that are a lot more boring.
Its would take nothing away from it’s Jeepness to make it not leak. “Like oh my gawd dood! You’re Jeep keeps water OUT!? You totally cannot hang!” Gimme a break. I LOVE Jeeps but this is just sad and lazy. Their marketing has you thinking an absurd deficiency is a feature.
I have a 2006 Jeep commander I get random leaks from sunroof , windshield, driver passenger doors , and A pillars . When I get Heavy heavy rains. For the past 12 years other then that I love the truck . Lol
I hope you guys can talk to the jeep people to fix the leaking issues. I live in South Louisiana and it rains a lot and if I open the door and water pours in that would not be good. Great video thanks
What kind of wind buffering do you get with the rear side glass panels off, roof open, but rear windshield still in place? Looks like the rear glass can’t be removed.
That water being channeled into the cab is a problem on earlier Jeeps as well. My 2013 Sport soft top has done that exact same thing since day one and it really ticks me off.
The liberty had a similar retractable roof (sky slider) seems like there was always problems with those. The hard tops always had leak issues plus the previous jeep even had problems with water pouring in when you open the door.
I would imagine a lot of dust and fine gritty sand getting stuck in the tracks over time. Then it wouldn’t slide as smoothly. I almost want to make a bet that it will happen and be the most common problem other than the leaking an occasional track jumping off a track and some minor sun fade. They sell window holders from jeep to store those in the rear so the glass is safe I do believe.
The Liberty KK has the sky slider top option that was basically identical to this one. That top option on the Liberty didn’t do well in the hands of time. I’m curious to see how Jeep has improved on this design. It seems that everyone has magically forgotten about this.
Ps i already see an issue. The water leak8ng in from the doors when you open them are getting into the electrical knob on the left hand side. Electrical short circuits are part failure on the driver side is going to be the factor. Also that water will surely rott the floors.
Ooh, that was one of my biggest concerns. You could sometimes drive it dry but what if you need to open the door now? I guess the old hard top design with RAIN GUTTERS will stay the standard engineering winner. Not a deal breaker, but...
My 2017 JKU doesn't do this at all! We've had some pretty rough rain in Michigan lately and nothing leaks inside when I open up the doors. Outside of the wind blowing water when I'm outside running into the store. After a heavy rainfall and I pull into my garage, I'm all dry! Never heard of this til now 🤔🤔
For $40,000+, you too can have engineering like this...That second angle is water coming in from inside the trim...is that flow from the gutter? or must be from the inner joints of the PSHT...? I'll stick to my JK for now...
It will be interesting to see what the replacement cost for the roof will be plus labour to install. I'm sure one will be slashed and broken into rather quickly after they hit the streets. Otherwise, neat concept, I'm sure there will a decent market for this. I'd stick to the normal dual top setup myself.
Yo, Roman, my Gangsta. Can you take the car up to Washington mountains area and see how freezing temperatures/ expansion due to ice formation affects the soft top? will it cause the "seal" to rise? will it potentially cause cracks in the top if there is a layer of frozen white goodness on top? how will it affect travel in the rails? Thanks again my Rangsta (Roman Gansta)!
I've had a hard top jeep for the past 6 years and that water coming in from the open door is a common problem on all jeeps. It has to do with the top corner of the roof that connects to the door. Definitely not a problem caused by that specific top.
I just bought a 2022 Jeep Sahara with the one touch power roof and its leaking the first week. Ran it through a car wash fine. First big rain and its leaking in the front driver side.. more so when I brake. leak.. its pouring actually. Did not have the first tank of gas through it. :(
Chrysler if you are watching this just tip the channel towards the rear of the Jeep. Doesn’t have to be much. I put a piece of putty on the front leading edge of the channel and parked it at a slight incline and it solved the problem. How can I figure this out and your design team cant?? Please explain this.... Please!!!!
That's why you never buy the first couple years of a new model. They need time and real world feedback to fix all the small things that they missed; like the water/door issue. 2018 JKUR and loving it. No water leaks when I open the door after a car wash.
next time on TFL, find out if the 2018 jeep wrangler can do 0 to 60? Or like jeep wrangler vs porsche panemera!!! What is the better buy? Which does roman prefer and why! Plus, a special video from nathan Explaining how put your toyota corolla in drive with its CvT transmissions
#1 Question: How much room does the canvas need to clear at the back of the roof? #2 Question: If you want a Jeep roof rack for a roof top tent; can you still open and close the canvas sun roof?
Any tips or thoughts on how well this top handles snow? I'm in Buffalo. I'm wondering if I'm just safer with the hard top, as tempting as the sky one-touch power top is.
I have no issues if the craigslist Jeep I bought for taking in the woods leaks,, But when I spend 40k+ on a Vehicle, no matter what it is, the damned thing better not leak even a drop...
ah no... post wash what dripping inside the car... no solution from the Jeep on this? i think i am not going for it... thanks for the clip and details... really appreciate it..
I have a Range Rover,and when I open the doors when it rains, water goes into the controls,and I think all cars regardless or brand get wet when you open the doors,whats the big deal.Either dry the car before you open the doors after washing,or don't drive in the rain or enter through the tail gate. Just trying to help.
I have a 2010 Wrangler 2-door, and the water runs in at that same spot at the door. I would have thought Jeep would have fixed that in the last 8-9 years. That is kind of disappointing. It really just needs the water routed elsewhere...like down the outside of the door (towards the engine) or around to the windshield. Seems like an easy fix.
Well, getting a Wrangler is all about being one with the elements. They are designed to get wet inside and out. I can see how the dripping will cause a little frustration for the uninitiated but a diehard Wrangler fan will just shrug and wipe it off. Good video though.
I was playing on the Jeep JL configurator today... those ugly wheels are a $895 option! AND, if you add in the Limited Slip rear diff, Jeep forces you to buy them!
K J Like the JK, There are two different 18" designs for the Sahara, the standard ones, and the optional, upgraded ones that are on this one. Check out the Jeep site.
K J gotcha. Yeah, the Rubi wheels are ok, the Sport wheels are meh, and both Sahara wheels are ugly. JK Sahara wheels are ugly too, it's too bad Jeep has such a hard time designing a good looking wheel for anything other than a Rubi.
My question is how water resistant is the instrument cluster and the Nav screen? Where I live it rains at random times and if the top is left down am I going to walk out and have a brick for a Jeep due to water shorting it out?
That’s typical for the Jeep’s soft tops to leak. I had a soft top Jeep and it leaked and it only got worse as time went on. I think the sliding soft top will Leak after some time. Also the leaking when you open up the door , my Jeep did that too and it was a big pain in the butt. I don’t like the soft tops.
Granted this wont help on a day to day basis, but I wonder if you drove up on a 2x4 before doing this if the water would have ran to the back. It's too bad this happens. That is a problem probably because of that kind of top. Does your personal Jeep JK suffer the same problem?
I am considering in buying a Sahara with the One touch power top, however now I am concerned, since I don’t have a garage, I just park in my driveway, also I am in Canada in a province where the snow and raining seasons are much longer that the dry Season, I am wondering where I can see the most updated review about Onetouch power top, any advise will be greatly appreciated.
