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Does Kevin Durant’s Olympic legacy change his all-time ranking among NBA legends? | Colin Cowherd 

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Colin is joined by ‘First Things First’ host Nick Wright and they discuss Phoenix Suns star Kevin Durant as the all-time leading scorer in the Olympics. Where does KD stack among all-time great basketball players?
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@ianszcze
@ianszcze Месяц назад
Watching KD sitting there next to his Mom with a huge smile on his face saying how each and every one of them will share this memory forever just makes these legacy discussions feel so trivial
@shyff2188
@shyff2188 Месяц назад
Funny how the conversation around KD has switched now, to my liking I will say.
@GIGAFAT3
@GIGAFAT3 Месяц назад
Every time he shoots it I think it's going in
@jalen-p
@jalen-p Месяц назад
Same 😂. He’s so efficient.
@tigera6
@tigera6 Месяц назад
So why couldnt he win a title outside of GS? Just make shot and win, right?
@nydibs
@nydibs Месяц назад
@@tigera6 - KD (OKC) averaged 30.6 ppg on 55% shooting vs Miami in the Finals, but Lebron had a better team. KD played vs Lebron in the Finals 3x, and was the best player on the court each time
@user-ge8wp1rs3v
@user-ge8wp1rs3v Месяц назад
@@nydibscan’t make that excuse when he been on superteams and haven’t carried his team unlike Lebron or curry
@brendanbloom3366
@brendanbloom3366 Месяц назад
@@user-ge8wp1rs3vwhat superteam? Okc was him and Russ with no shooters and a mid coach and they had injuries in a stacked west. Brooklyn was never healthy. Suns had 1 year together and had the worse center rotation in the playoffs along with a lack of size and defense on the team. Curry led a team? Hes been hid by elite defenses. Lebron has only won with amazing teams just like anybody else and him and Westbrook were a horrible fit.
@BoskoShabazz
@BoskoShabazz Месяц назад
Once USA beats France that’ll give KD his 4th Olympic gold. I don’t think we’ll see another player reach that.
@nydibs
@nydibs Месяц назад
Tatum will have 2 golds and is only 26, but I dont know if he'll want to play again after being benched like this
@BoskoShabazz
@BoskoShabazz Месяц назад
@@nydibs honestly I don’t think he’ll do the Olympics again as long as Kerr is the coach
@tomevers6670
@tomevers6670 Месяц назад
Look at the line up Tatum should be benched. Both of the Celtics are literally the worst players.
@gringoboy701
@gringoboy701 Месяц назад
Bro Tatum has been trash. If he was anything close to a superstar the Celtics would be a dynasty caliber team.
@geoffnaggie961
@geoffnaggie961 Месяц назад
​@@BoskoShabazz tough shot Tatum does it to himself
@justinsena6554
@justinsena6554 Месяц назад
The Durant being single smoking weed part got me 😂
@ojoj5194
@ojoj5194 Месяц назад
KD already explained why he still single and was right, bbut c how the media works bro? its sad
@uncleshushu1
@uncleshushu1 Месяц назад
Give KD the ball and get the heck out the way. USA GOAT! 🐐
@kendallandrews8691
@kendallandrews8691 Месяц назад
Yep greatest USA player ever. If they close tomorrow, 4 Olympic golds and a world cup gold where he completely carried. Impressive
@slayer6867
@slayer6867 Месяц назад
Their are not 15 players better than kd, not with his resume.
@WorldBeater123
@WorldBeater123 Месяц назад
I agree, but it’s close: In no particular order MJ Lebron Kareem Magic Kobe Bird Duncan Shaq Russell Wilt Owlajuon Curry KD
@slayer6867
@slayer6867 Месяц назад
@@WorldBeater123 solid 13 list, he can easily be 13 or 14 on any other list.
Месяц назад
1. KD has not underacchieved 2. KD is the only athlete to ever come back from an Achilles Tear an be the SANE player, if not BETTER for several years.
@Phat-rj3jo
@Phat-rj3jo Месяц назад
Yeah, unfortunately for GS Klay couldn’t do the same….sad to see him go.
@Christopher._M
@Christopher._M Месяц назад
He has underachieved relative to his talent but a lot of that isn his fault but injuries.
@ADUSN
@ADUSN Месяц назад
​@@Christopher._MCareer as a whole, KD has not underachieved.
@Sirwastealot
@Sirwastealot Месяц назад
I think the only slightly underachieving was that he didn't win a ring outside GS. He got close and in every other way he's one of the best of all time.
@Christopher._M
@Christopher._M Месяц назад
@@Sirwastealot that's why I say it's really not his fault. If you look at his career you will see that he really only had 3 chances to win the title outside of Golden state and 2 of them came in OKC when he was still young.
@greyklopstock7155
@greyklopstock7155 Месяц назад
KD is the ultimate hired gun. Don't ask him to make strategic choices, don't ask him to lead the troops into battle, but when you need FIREPOWER, it's hard to say no to plug and play KD
@brendanbloom3366
@brendanbloom3366 Месяц назад
Completely idiotic. Kd bring the entire confidence of his teammates up when he steps on the floor and allows them to shine and gets his within the flow. He don’t have to give some corny speech. Watch the games. When kd is playing hard on both ends and screaming at guys or hitting waiters on the head or talking trash or pounding his teammates chest you can see all his teammates being inspired. Dont make strategic choices? He’s constantly talking the game with his teammates. He literally told the coach in Brooklyn Toronto was doubling him so run the play for kyrie to hit the gw.
@greyklopstock7155
@greyklopstock7155 Месяц назад
@@brendanbloom3366 bro, it's called a metaphor. I watched KD for three years when he was in the bay here. I saw him in person when we still played in Oracle. I'm using a METAPHOR to draw parallels to how KD fits on team
@brendanbloom3366
@brendanbloom3366 Месяц назад
@@greyklopstock7155 the metaphor doesn’t fit. Kd can do almost whatever is asked of him. That’s what makes him great. That type of rhetoric is what the media did the entire time kd was in gs. Try and separate him from the rest of the team.
@greyklopstock7155
@greyklopstock7155 Месяц назад
@@brendanbloom3366 dog, I watched him fold IN PERSON against the sixers at home in Oracle when Steph had effing 45. KD is an introvert, being in the role of a primary voice, a front and center public speaker, that's not him. Everyone talks about the Draymond Green outburst during that clippers game in 2019, but there's one part everyone forgets: did KD even defend himself? Dwayne Wade could've said the same stuff to LeBron in 2011, "we won without you, you came to us, we don't need you." But you'd never get away with saying that to LeBron. You can get away with saying that to KD. KD is not a natural born leader. He's an introvert, he's a passive aggressive kinda guy, he had Twitter burners. I've seen it happen with my own two eyes. I actually freaking live in the bay area, so I saw it all first hand. I saw him come up small in person, I'm a freaking primary source for that ish. KD separated himself from the rest of the guys cause he was always an outsider. He wasn't drafted here, he didn't win the first one that Steph, dray, Klay, and Iggy got. If he wasn't, he would've signed a long term deal to stay after 2019. But he didn't. Kevin is very talented, but he's not leadership material and never has been. That's why Brooklyn fell apart, and why Phoenix has struggled to find a consistent identity post CP. Not everyone is cut out to be the leader. He's like a great session musician. He'll never be part of the band, he's not the guy who writes the songs, but you need him to come through and lay down something clean, tasteful, and in time, he's your guy. Just don't make him your front man. Kevin Durant is more Ronnie Wood than Keith Richards, more Harrison than Lennon or McCartney. He has an argument as the most talented guy there, but when you put him on stage with Mick Jagger and Keith Richards, talent aside, there's something those two have that makes them magnetic. Ronnie Wood is legit the best guitar player on the rolling Stones, but when you think "the Stones," you think of Keef with a tele and a cigarette, and Mick doing his chicken dance. It's not a knock on his character. It's just the way it is. KD is not a lead singer, he's not a primary songwriter, he's a fantastic guitar player that is at his best when the majority of the attention and obligation to make major artistic and setlist decisions are held by others
@CashEmDaily
@CashEmDaily Месяц назад
He literally just led team USA in Tokyo it was the KD show. Led OKC to finals, in Brooklyn if someone just made a shot for him vs buck this leadership narrative would be far gone.
@mperciva
@mperciva Месяц назад
When Team USA won gold in Japan..KD was the leader of team..i think the leadership take on him is not fair critique.
@aquintaancrum4606
@aquintaancrum4606 29 дней назад
Mr. Durant (Kevin) is the all-time lead Olympics scorer, 2X Olympics MVPs (2010 & 2020), 5X Olympics Gold Medalists (FIBA 2010, Olympics 2012, 2016, 2020 & 2024), the only NBA Player & Olympics USA Men's Basketball Team Player to lead Olympics USA to a 3-Peat Gold Medalists (2012, 2016 & 2020), 3rd all-time Olympics asst leader, 4th all-time Olympics rebound in Olympics history and the only NBA player in NBA history to represent the NBA & the USA as the greatest competitor to play in the NBA!
@bfe954
@bfe954 Месяц назад
I’d say the answer is yes. He’s a phenomenal international player especially with that shorter 3 pt line, and his midrange is so lethal that in FIBA where the 3pt line is shorter it means there is less floor spacing and his length and skill to just rise up and pull up off the dribble is the most valuable skill in FIBA. He’s a mismatch nightmare internationally and he defends well on this shortened court even better than in the NBA. Steph went off but Durant sealed it at the end
@ojoj5194
@ojoj5194 Месяц назад
As knicks fan, KD is by far the most complete USA MENS Basketball Player Of All Times. 4 Finals (WC, 3 x Olympics), 4 golds and 2x Finals MVP's WC and OLY. sad Not enough people talk about Kevin Durant’s longevity all the media do is creating drama to put this dude down, its sad..remember last olympics media was rottin against usa cuz kd was on the team.
@Healthy_Toki
@Healthy_Toki Месяц назад
The 'bus rider' narrative they were pushing was so ridiculous. Like come on, do better media.
@dancleary4101
@dancleary4101 Месяц назад
You owe Joel Embiid an apology
@oreoakalaperoji8314
@oreoakalaperoji8314 Месяц назад
Please wtf does he even know? Just some old cow with clout.
@natureredux1957
@natureredux1957 Месяц назад
@@oreoakalaperoji8314 Colin has ZERO clout.
@oreoakalaperoji8314
@oreoakalaperoji8314 Месяц назад
@@natureredux1957 People listen to him cause he's a media personality. He's grandfathered in clout. People will always listen to his old head even though he rarely watches games.
@bryanh2898
@bryanh2898 Месяц назад
@@natureredux1957and I suppose you have more?
@DavidWilliams-mo7cv
@DavidWilliams-mo7cv 29 дней назад
No one owes Embiid an apology. These things are fluid. Earlier in these Olympics Embiid played poorly and wasn’t really geling with the team that imo could’ve been explained by the limited time together. Colin made a parallel in realtime to his NBA career. Is was an interesting pov. Embiid later improved that’s it.
@ceeho22
@ceeho22 Месяц назад
I would love to see Nick interview KD. When he's not being extra for the TV takes Nick is great at just talking sports. Him and KD going back and forth about criticsm and how KD views his own legacy would be an entertaining conversation.
@brendanbloom3366
@brendanbloom3366 Месяц назад
The legacy talk is corny. What the media says is completely different from what peers say. It was the same for Kobe.
@19934
@19934 Месяц назад
@@brendanbloom3366facts
@howardbrammer4871
@howardbrammer4871 Месяц назад
KD has trust issues and rightly so.
@MeloMVP100
@MeloMVP100 Месяц назад
Can we as nba fans stop acting like KD is not one of the best 12/15 basketball players to ever play the game?? Dude is a bad man
@ADUSN
@ADUSN Месяц назад
Fr. Been saying it since Rio
@ADUSN
@ADUSN Месяц назад
Kd will be missed when he's gone. All time greatness
@DP-8964
@DP-8964 Месяц назад
KD is the best mercenary. In my dreams, I would love to see KD and Kobe playing together.
@simonswag69
@simonswag69 25 дней назад
2012 Olympics!
@Hones1Truth
@Hones1Truth Месяц назад
Thank you guys for taking the lead to my favorite player some love. Much appreciated from my heart ❤️
@xavierb9061
@xavierb9061 Месяц назад
Game on line. Kd gets ball
@MichaelObi15
@MichaelObi15 Месяц назад
No questions asked
@brentsharon404
@brentsharon404 Месяц назад
@@MichaelObi15 Kobe
@sudanstowell2533
@sudanstowell2533 Месяц назад
​@brentsharon404 Good lord. Look at the stats please
@brentsharon404
@brentsharon404 Месяц назад
@@sudanstowell2533 game aint stats man... I go by eye.
@1mctcn
@1mctcn Месяц назад
Negative … it’s Lebron who gets the ball and he’ll take the last shot himself or pass to either KD or Steph. That’s exactly how it will play out 10/10 times when all 3 of them in the same game.
@brockmatthews7584
@brockmatthews7584 Месяц назад
If you erase KD’s history of injuries , he would be a top 10 of all time without a doubt. If you erased 2 or 3 of his injuries he would still be in the top 12 of all time. KD has always been a generational talent that was heavily overshadowed by the media.
@Decentpain
@Decentpain Месяц назад
He already top 10 only the ones that never played thanks otherwise
@stretch4810
@stretch4810 Месяц назад
@@Decentpainhe’s not top 10 come on man 😂 who’s your top 10 😂😂
@Ainttrippin
@Ainttrippin Месяц назад
Jordan, Kareem, Bron, Shaq, Kobe, Duncan, Steph, Magic, Russell, Bird
@jairobaldera9336
@jairobaldera9336 28 дней назад
KD is a player that every nba superstar want to be. When it comes to hoop, no one is better than him.
@1931fito
@1931fito Месяц назад
I want to see KD, Lebron and Steph play these next few years together that would be awesome if they could come together and win more Championships
@willmarinac5201
@willmarinac5201 Месяц назад
That would be a Big Three that could win a Championship but Father Time Curry 36 Durant 35 and LeBron 39 makes that Window no more than 2 years soooo enjoy the Serbia Semi Scare.
@omieg89
@omieg89 27 дней назад
@@willmarinac5201dude if they played together, I legit think they could play another 5-7 years.
@yoooerenarmin
@yoooerenarmin Месяц назад
Curry is ranked higher bc he’s a better leader? 😂😂 they both lead the same way, by example. Ridiculous simpletons. Kd and jokic my goats, simple.
@stoneprisms1313
@stoneprisms1313 Месяц назад
Yes, because leadership matters for a franchise, or any business for that matter.
@brendanbloom3366
@brendanbloom3366 Месяц назад
@@stoneprisms1313yeah and kd is a leader and does it on both ends. They only say curry is a better leader cuz he’s more jovial with the media.
@gringoboy701
@gringoboy701 Месяц назад
@@brendanbloom3366 KD is not a leader and has never wanted to be one.
@brendanbloom3366
@brendanbloom3366 Месяц назад
@@gringoboy701 what’s your source?
@jordancoolwell8347
@jordancoolwell8347 Месяц назад
Durant is the best pure scorer
@benmanion1830
@benmanion1830 29 дней назад
Kevin Durant is the greatest offensive weapon that I have ever seen play the game.
@ig6894
@ig6894 Месяц назад
Colin needs to apologize to Embiid, instead of talking about Durant.
@3rdFloor
@3rdFloor Месяц назад
Having better careers and being better players are diff arguments. Durant has the skills and attributes where he's legit better than almost anyone outside of 1 or 2 guys ever.
@omieg89
@omieg89 27 дней назад
Kevin Durant is one of the 10-15 greatest players to ever play the game. The ultimate plug and play guy. His only weakness is probably that he can’t be the primary facilitator on a championship caliber team. Otherwise, he is pretty perfect.
@grantprice3
@grantprice3 Месяц назад
@1:55 Did Colin actually just suggest someone will guess Bill Bradley before Kevin Durant as the all time Olympic scorer?
@brentsharon404
@brentsharon404 Месяц назад
hahahah
@gameslayer321
@gameslayer321 Месяц назад
Nick said Durants ranked about 20? I want those crack rocks he’s on 🤣
@BoskoShabazz
@BoskoShabazz Месяц назад
Too high? Too low?
@amadoubah9176
@amadoubah9176 Месяц назад
@@BoskoShabazztoo fucking low, kd at this point is no lower than 13 and have arguments for top 10 honestly
@smackd1870
@smackd1870 Месяц назад
way too low, Nick Nose hates kd cuz of the warriors spanking bron
@BoskoShabazz
@BoskoShabazz Месяц назад
@@amadoubah9176 true. I assumed Nick was trying to say he’s closer to 20 than he is to 1. Also, idk what the argument for him being top 10 is but I would be interested in hearing anybody try to make the case
@OgSweenyTBZ_YT
@OgSweenyTBZ_YT Месяц назад
@@amadoubah9176I agree
@adeadele-nz6xt
@adeadele-nz6xt Месяц назад
This ones are just chatting bullocks... no 15 players better than KD all time
@sherbstone
@sherbstone Месяц назад
However many the Olympics don't change shyt they just saying anything
@brendanbloom3366
@brendanbloom3366 Месяц назад
⁠@@timh9220greater career doesn’t mean better player. Curry isn’t even close to being better than kd. Jokic defense isn’t up to par. Can easily argue kd over dr J and Lebron.
@slayer6867
@slayer6867 Месяц назад
Agreed
@stoneprisms1313
@stoneprisms1313 Месяц назад
​@brendanbloom3366 Yeah, no...not LBJ at all lol
@brendanbloom3366
@brendanbloom3366 Месяц назад
@@stoneprisms1313 every player named in that comment besides Steph can easily be argued over Lebron.
@thetrentmeister
@thetrentmeister Месяц назад
Legacy. Everything, every day is about legacy. Legacy, legacy, legacy. In the 90s the media weren’t obsessed with how everything was going to look down the line like they are now. I loved those posts that KD made to twitter users about adding to their legacy by loading the dishwasher etc.
@willzinc6137
@willzinc6137 Месяц назад
Yeah it was cool to see Lebron, KD and Steph do their thing at the Olympics and just appreciate it without worrying about whether KD is top 12 or top 20.
@jerodjones6846
@jerodjones6846 Месяц назад
That mid shot by KD with under 1:00 to go was the dagger. Steph had an all time performance, Lebron with the triple double and runner in the lane was epic, but it was KD with that sweet floater that sent Serbia to the bronze.
@greyklopstock7155
@greyklopstock7155 Месяц назад
Kevin Durant is Ronnie Wood. LeBron is Mick Jagger, and Steph is wild man Keith Richards. Mick Jaggers name is practically synonymous with superstar, frontman, the face. Literally, even in like the 2010s, maroon 5 can make a song about being a cool dancer, and they don't say moves like Elvis, or Michael, or James Brown, or whatever, they say Mick Jagger. When you're picking the best front man for an all time band, is he the best singer on paper, no, but when you get down to it, it's damn hard to say no to Mick Jagger when the guy still sells out stadiums in his freaking 70s doing all his dances. Keef is a wonky, unique guitar player that is just impossible to truly imitate. He plays without the low E, he tunes weird, he puts the pickup in wrong, he's always smoking something, and yet when he sits down and cranks out a riff, you can practically hear it on the radio already. KD is Ronnie Wood. He was the leading scorer/lead guitar player on another prolific band already (The Faces with Rod Stewart), he's the most technically proficient guitar player in the band, he's rock solid and knows how to fit in perfectly like only a seasoned pro of his caliber can. But Ronnie Wood ain't Keef. You're like, is Steph a point guard, is he a shooting guard, is Keef the lead guitar, is he rhythm guitar? When the answer is, he's Keef, and he's Steph Curry. All you know is that you never seen anything like it before them, and people try to do it after, but they're not quite the same. Being Ronnie Wood is awesome! But it just ain't the Stones without Mick and Keef. They'd still be a great band with just Mick and Ronnie, but it wouldn't be on the level of the ROLLING STONES. Every good band needs a Ronnie Wood. Every great team is better adding Kevin Durant. But he's not a front man
@tsol00616
@tsol00616 Месяц назад
I like this take. KD always balled out
@nobleskywalker4639
@nobleskywalker4639 Месяц назад
I mean, my top 5 are these: MJ Lebron Kareem Magic Shaq No player has come to changing this ranking for me
@timratcliff6590
@timratcliff6590 29 дней назад
Bird is right behind Jordan
@DarryllEverett
@DarryllEverett Месяц назад
Nick always hates on mj smh
@blaketindle4703
@blaketindle4703 Месяц назад
He’s paid by Rich Paul to do that.
@danielwilson3225
@danielwilson3225 Месяц назад
The idea that olympic play contributes to your alltime nba ranking is so stupid…..
@marcuswilliams2910
@marcuswilliams2910 Месяц назад
So u going to apologize to Embiid for your stupid takes?
@jakehm3678
@jakehm3678 Месяц назад
Salt to the chef is such a weird analogy, KD is so much more than that. He’s the red pepper flakes, FOR SURE 🫵🏻🇺🇸
@dereksupernaut
@dereksupernaut Месяц назад
talent wise, KD is #3 behind MJ and Olajuwon... all 3 are great regular season scorers and somehow become even better in playoffs...
@brentsharon404
@brentsharon404 Месяц назад
Cant really rank everyone myself because I appreciate so many players' game but I had to comment because Hakeem is def an all time great!
@brentsharon404
@brentsharon404 Месяц назад
the one and only Shaq killer!!
@spirit13the1st6
@spirit13the1st6 Месяц назад
SO WILT MUST BE " SUPERNATURAL" LET ME GIVE YOU A RANDOM WILT STAT LINE. 73PTS 43 REBS 7AS 8 BLOCKS . LOOK IT UP
@WorldBeater123
@WorldBeater123 Месяц назад
I am a huge Durant fan but what is this nonsense of “KD Legacy sealed” 😂 after a non title game? A non gold medal game? On a 9pt night? 😂. What a ridiculous statement. KD already is a top 15 player ever whatever happened with this Olympics. Only thing that moves him up the top 15 list is more titles and MVP’s
@mrfreshman521
@mrfreshman521 Месяц назад
Durant was magic in the tournament. Curry was clutch and James was the fuel.
@WorldBeater123
@WorldBeater123 Месяц назад
I have him as the 13th best player ever. In no particular order: MJ Lebron Kareem Magic Kobe Duncan Bird Shaq Russell Curry Wilt Olajuwon Durant
@blockshop6492
@blockshop6492 Месяц назад
When KD plays they win....when he doesn't they loose..who's the common denominator
@system1291
@system1291 Месяц назад
Westbrook was great in OKC he was in his prime
@Christopher._M
@Christopher._M Месяц назад
He was it was just his late game execution that drove me crazy. He made mistakes throughout the game but he would usually make up for them but the mistakes he made in those last 5 minutes if quarters especially the last 2 were so infuriating. If he had the composure of a Brunson or Rose he would have probably ended up in the same conversation as KD and Hakeem.
@etherionoon
@etherionoon Месяц назад
KD is top 10 period! He better than magic, bird, Hakeem, Tim Duncan, bill and chamberlain
@JoeMama-tl4tr
@JoeMama-tl4tr Месяц назад
KD is literally the only guy whose GOAT resume stacks up with MJ
@willzinc6137
@willzinc6137 Месяц назад
He had to join a championship team to win championships. I love KD and he's top 15 on my list but to act like KD's resume is better than Lebron is insane.
@tbates2906
@tbates2906 29 дней назад
⁠@@willzinc6137Lebron joined Wade and Bosh to win. Wouldn’t Steph be above them based on your logic?
@dwightyokum3700
@dwightyokum3700 Месяц назад
Speak it CC, KD is a BAMF
@blaketindle4703
@blaketindle4703 Месяц назад
So why can’t he win without the Warriors???? He’s never even gotten to a Conference Finals since leaving the most stacked super team of all time!
@19934
@19934 Месяц назад
It’s a team game damn if players around you are hurt how can you win!
@ojoj5194
@ojoj5194 Месяц назад
and why ewing miller iverson barkley never won? its stupid to say stuff like that bro, i dont need to be kd fan, its a team sport. i mean before warriors kd already had everything other thn chip right? lets see if curry or bron will win again?
@JoePesos
@JoePesos Месяц назад
Olympics in basketball doesn't cement anything. Nobody looks at great (USA) NBA players and asks how did they do against lower level Olympic competition. NBA is the highest level of basketball, how they do in it is the only thing that matters when discussing the greatness of NBA players. If we were talking about a guy from another country who was going against USA that might be a discussion.
@mauricioperez9381
@mauricioperez9381 29 дней назад
If KD wins another chip he will be undoubtedly top 10
@Healthy_Toki
@Healthy_Toki Месяц назад
Seeing KD on the Olympic team having fun really brings home that he should have had a 'face' turn in the NBA after the Nets fiasco instead of joining noted heel team The Suns.
@lizbif0315
@lizbif0315 Месяц назад
I do like KD but being the all time leading scorer at the Olympics surrounded by great players it's only then that he shines....the fact that he can't lead I think detracts from being one of the best ever. Best ever can lead teams and win rings which he can't do.
@Musso88
@Musso88 Месяц назад
In team sports leadership is absolutely the players' job as well. Its preposterous to say otherwise.
@hymedude7378
@hymedude7378 29 дней назад
I remember all those years ago the sonics were gonna win a title😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
@MarkWweSwinger
@MarkWweSwinger Месяц назад
Great analogy: salt to the chef…
@etherionoon
@etherionoon Месяц назад
Kd is top 10 period! Accolades don’t mean EVERYTHING! I hold pure game and skill over everything because it’s a team game. Kd in my top 5 period!
@ragingsavage9059
@ragingsavage9059 Месяц назад
KD salt to a chef? You don’t say? He’s an injury away from 3 peating with Steph.
@rizzsc48
@rizzsc48 Месяц назад
Biggest win in USA basketball history
@biniam6655
@biniam6655 Месяц назад
Did I hear Colin cuss lol
@davidcovington1046
@davidcovington1046 Месяц назад
Yeah I caught that lol
@TroutSniffer69
@TroutSniffer69 Месяц назад
Still complaining about people not wanting to get the vax is crazy
@panagiotisatmatzidis9972
@panagiotisatmatzidis9972 Месяц назад
KD's issue is not just leadership. He is simply not as good as ppl think he is. He might _look_ like that, but he really isn't. He is a steady first round exit without super-teams around him. Seriously, his best series was against MIL which resulted in a hail marry loss and that's because the Bucks would leave him play one-v-one "lets allow him to beat us" and it worked for them (barely). Next year, Boston keyed on him and annihilated him, they keyed on Giannis and Butler but didn't work as well... KD is great as long as he is not the focal point of a defence... That means that there's something *obviously not working* as great as ppl think. That jump shot won't work against Denver, Nuggets, Boston, Bucks (and other contenders). It's great, but not as good as Giannis, LBJ, Jokic, Luka, etc. being your No1 option. All these guys are more reliable scorers and overall players when shit hits the fan and we see that time and time again on the court. Not, if KD finds someone else to Curry him, well yeah... But that's true for Jordan Poole as well... meh.
@be4st856
@be4st856 Месяц назад
if you were to create a team with all the top 20 guys, KD might not be the first pick, but he should DEFINITELY be your second pick, no matter who you take first. you KNOW it will work.
@Th3WhiteNoise
@Th3WhiteNoise Месяц назад
He's not lying when he said "I just wanna hoop".
@soda8736
@soda8736 Месяц назад
And tweet
@Th3WhiteNoise
@Th3WhiteNoise Месяц назад
@@soda8736 lol
@CementJuice
@CementJuice 29 дней назад
Curry should have gotten the MVP . They weren’t winning a gold without him .
@hyperpress
@hyperpress Месяц назад
Ok man, take it down a notch. KD good on good teams. He fits perfectly with a couple other dudes who can take a team to the promised land, but he can't do it otherwise. Not hatin' cause we need him, but hatin' cause he ain't even in the top ten of all-timers.
@sean24833
@sean24833 Месяц назад
No
@curtiszyr
@curtiszyr Месяц назад
I mean his legacy was pretty much cemented. He’s one of the greatest of all time
@sean24833
@sean24833 Месяц назад
@@curtiszyr without question
@datyellaman447
@datyellaman447 Месяц назад
People need to stop worrying about the Golden State years , he is one of the 12 best players ever
@ashleydyer3853
@ashleydyer3853 Месяц назад
He's NOT the Alltime leading Olympic Scorer! Why do they disrespect Oscar Schmidt and Andrew Gaze so much... Come on America journalists.... stop the BS! He's not even in the top 5.
@biniam6655
@biniam6655 Месяц назад
Tell us abt these other dudes.
@MichaelObi15
@MichaelObi15 Месяц назад
Wtf u talkin bout lol
@theprez1278
@theprez1278 Месяц назад
you must be smoking something he is all time leader in usa scoring
@brendanbloom3366
@brendanbloom3366 Месяц назад
@@biniam6655Kobe’s idol
@Thomasthetruthteller
@Thomasthetruthteller Месяц назад
i completely disagree about tatum. He's definately got some confidence issues and turnover issues but the face that we were getting lit up from 3 and our guards were getting out rebounded and you have a 6'10 elite at both and you don't play him is insane to me. We came so close to losing because the guards kerr was playing couldn't defend
@andretalley9603
@andretalley9603 Месяц назад
It people that never played basketball think kd is close to 20 in the top 20 he easily top 13
@cobywan0519
@cobywan0519 Месяц назад
it doesn’t make sense to change his overall nba ranking because the olympics/fiba is completely separate from the nba. if that’s the case, then carmelo is a top 75 player all time. kd stays where he is top 15 which is still amazing
@jdilla4591
@jdilla4591 Месяц назад
Melo is a top 75 all time more like top 50
@kimjonghyun3471
@kimjonghyun3471 Месяц назад
Not really lmao. It’s more like a participation checklist just to say u have one and contribute to ur country (more like social work than an award). Team USA is too stacked for anyone whose being honest to actually think it matters. For other countries tho it can be bigger than a ring if it’s against a non backup team USA like this year
@soundwriter3083
@soundwriter3083 Месяц назад
Of course it does! At least more than anyone else
@srdepr9186
@srdepr9186 27 дней назад
top 20 is disrespectful
@smokeyedwards6637
@smokeyedwards6637 Месяц назад
And I'm still glad Kyrie said no 2 the 💉💉💉 💯👿😈
@ericp8533
@ericp8533 Месяц назад
Edgy
@milliemosk3984
@milliemosk3984 Месяц назад
That dig at him at 00:58 so uncalled for and just stupid from the host.
@luisneves2311
@luisneves2311 Месяц назад
THE FAKE DREAM.MJ GOAT 🐏 BENCH WAS CLYDE DREXLER.THERE JUST ONE DREAM TEAM.1992 EVEN WITHOUT ISIAH THOMAS!
@Cubodesangre666
@Cubodesangre666 Месяц назад
Magic works on any great team. The only guy that could possibly beat him out at PG is LBJ. I'd rather have them at the #1 and the #3 respectively.
@EzDeanFassassi
@EzDeanFassassi Месяц назад
Nobody: (Colin) Welcome to the official Youuuuuuutuuuube podcast!
@system1291
@system1291 Месяц назад
KD is far better than MJ as a pure scorer
@chrisbreezy-ryanbarbosa4320
@chrisbreezy-ryanbarbosa4320 Месяц назад
Welcome to the official podcast where two unathletic white guys tell us why somebody's legacy is solidified or not.
@freeindeed8416
@freeindeed8416 Месяц назад
Can unathletic black guys comment?
@aricmitchell3445
@aricmitchell3445 Месяц назад
Then kd doesn’t work everywhere. Bad take Collin
@bfoz
@bfoz Месяц назад
Was this after the Serbia game?
@52mbs
@52mbs 29 дней назад
I respect Durant like crazy….but I don’t think this changes his legacy. Who cares about the Olympics as far as all time greats go? Does anyone care where Jordan ranks in Olympic scoring? I sure don’t lol, but maybe it’s just me. Bill Bradley Colin?? lol I love Colin but his basketball knowledge gets exposed sometimes.
@rolandmarkland6844
@rolandmarkland6844 Месяц назад
Who lead team US in 2021?
@nydibs
@nydibs Месяц назад
KD and Tatum
@ojoj5194
@ojoj5194 Месяц назад
@@nydibs in tokyo was kd. stop
@zebuachristianfaith7762
@zebuachristianfaith7762 Месяц назад
Jordan not a great shooter? 😅
@VibeRipple
@VibeRipple Месяц назад
Probably best ever at mid range, mediocre at 3. Calling him a "good" not "great" shooter isn't THAT inaccurate. MJ doesn't have to be the best at everything.
@macalloway1
@macalloway1 Месяц назад
Durant is not the second tallest with shaq kareem and wilt presuming this is a group of the 20 best you gotta include david robinson. Jordan or wilt are the best athletes by far because they are both insanely strong relative their weight and they keep the leaping and quickness that shaq and lebron lose with their size. The biggest thing is not necessarily competitiveness but competitiveness with composure and fearlessness. These are humans not robots so that stuff matters a ton more than just skillset. If you include that with jordans insane athletism and finishing at the rim its easy
@Boomdizzle99
@Boomdizzle99 Месяц назад
Love KD on the court. One of my 5 favorite players EVER but yes off the court I recognize he is a different dude that not many would like or appreciate. Hes gained lebron and stephs respect and all 3 have been THE best players of their generation that arent European players. They represent the US in a way we should all be proud of. Jokic and doncic are great players but theyre not american and to me they will NEVER be the face of USA basketball. They dont represent the US in any way. Theyre international players. All time greats! But give me KD, Bron and Steph as the 3 players I will always remember this generation for. From Larry Bird and Magic Johnson to MJ, Charles Barkley and Karl Malone to Tim Duncan, Shaq Kobe and Dirk and now Lebron, Steph and KD
@yaboyvado3064
@yaboyvado3064 Месяц назад
It’s not necessarily about his leadership, more of when the pressure is on other all time great on the team, he can destroy you. If he has to be number 1 player on team pressure seems to much
@brendanbloom3366
@brendanbloom3366 Месяц назад
Give 1 example of it being too much.
@maxdesimus2072
@maxdesimus2072 Месяц назад
Look... KD is fn great. But stop all the extra glazin. Show me the stats that Kd is some lockdown defender.. show me the stats that say Kd is a better Scorer or Basketball player than LeBron is? (WAITING) Yes his ability at 7 ft is probably 2nd to none, but hes not getting picked first at the park over LeBron or Mj. They person drafting would look at Mj Scoring, Bron scoring Assist rebounds , 40k+ points .. oh and 6'8ft / 250.lbs / Jumps out the gym, and will be great 25yrs straight.. lol 😂 Like i said KD is great, plays for my team.. but c'mon man 🇺🇲 👑🐐
@Christopher._M
@Christopher._M Месяц назад
Very few defenders have been lock down. Kawai, Scottie, Dwight, Draymond, Hakeem, and a few more. KD is not in their tier but I truly believe he is underrated on defense and on par with guys like PG. KD has always been one of the most versatile defenders and while he can't lock down the top scorer he's always been a defensive player that people will go out of their way to not be close to him on the court. He has flaws on defense which is why he isn't in that elite category but for 90% of the league he's lock down and for that other 5 percent he's still really solid. It's literally just the top 5% of offensive players or big men that KD can't guard. That basically goes for everyone that isn't Kawai, Draymond, Hakeem, Scottie, Tim, Dwight. When has PG ever locked down a top offensive player? And he's still considered one of the best of his generation and some people will literally tell you he's a top 5-10 wing defender of all time.
@Christopher._M
@Christopher._M Месяц назад
KD has a track record of impacting defense positively. How do you think OKC was a top defense or how golden. State could be #2 with KD as a center/PF. Or how Brooklyn was a top 3 defense in 2023 and Claxton was being considered as a DPOY before KD left.. They dropped to 20-27 after KD left even though a supposed DPOY of year candidate and one of the best perimeter players joined him. Not only Bridges but 2 other defensive players joined the nets and they were still worse than when KD was on the team by a good margin. The suns improved on defense with KD in the few games they played. Last season the sun's were playing nurkic a pretty bad defender for his position and 4 SG who are all around average and the sun's were better on defense than then half the league.
@Bballing23
@Bballing23 Месяц назад
SO DUMB. ALL THE 20 GREATETST PLAYERS WORK ON ANY TEAM. YOU TELLING BIRD AND MAGIC WOULD NOT WORK ON ANY TEAM? OR HAKEEM AND DUNCAN WOULD NOT WORK ON ANY TEAM?
@IcarusFallz
@IcarusFallz Месяц назад
Nick wrong again. You put the undeniable GOAT, MJ on any squad, any era, hes killing his opponents no matter what. He transcends any era because of his skillset but his will to win.
@ADUSN
@ADUSN Месяц назад
Right but it's basketball. KD is taller and longer, and gun to my head I'd pick him to win 1v1
@Ainttrippin
@Ainttrippin Месяц назад
Insane to still blame the Nets failureon Kyrie not taking experimental drugs. GTFOH
@BlackSkins-il7ch
@BlackSkins-il7ch Месяц назад
Does KD know what a KD is in the hood🤔
@rooandron10
@rooandron10 Месяц назад
That’s literally not how anyone would describe Jordan or Lebron lmfao. Trying to hedge your adjectives so your fiction fits your take is quintessential nick. Tbf, it’s made him a lot of money.
@taelabaho
@taelabaho Месяц назад
swept twice by antman and tatum
@laventurekaizen2251
@laventurekaizen2251 Месяц назад
All this praise makes me think KD is the GOAT🐐
@Christopher._M
@Christopher._M Месяц назад
Goat status is about accolades. In terms of talent KD had the potential. Injuries stopped him from being top 5 but I think the reason he would never be #1 even if he was healthy is his mentality. He isn't scrappy enough and never wanted to take leadership
@2810lefty
@2810lefty Месяц назад
I’m convinced you guys are just fans. And never actually played sports at a high level. And Nick has a Napoleon complex
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