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Does LME make for a good Whiskey? 

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In this video we will be seeing if Liquid Malt Extract makes for a good Whiskey.
We made an All Grain Single Malt Whiskey consisting of 7kgs of Pale Malt Barley.
We also made a Whiskey with only 5kgs of LME, fermented and distilled both Whiskys and tried them side by side.
If you will like to get your hands on some of LME of the Malt please check out the links below.
LME
stilltec.co.za/product/malt-e...
Base Malt
stilltec.co.za/product/25kg-s...
Thank you Still Tec for the ingredients.

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@stillworksandbrewing
@stillworksandbrewing 2 года назад
thanks for video Beaver as always enjoyable and a lot of great info Cheers!!
@Ansis99
@Ansis99 2 года назад
Nice! Thanks' for StillBehindTheBench channel introduction to me! Many good videos! P.S. I made a some changes in my understanding of "how to make methanol free" wine. I think professional stills can distillate everything, but copper column pot stills cant. And we - simple still guys must make grain wines. All my experiments with fruit wines (without buffers) go wrong. Idea about "buffers" is great! I must understand it better, because it is something "new" for me. We all still in "learning process" forever! 🥂
@BEAVERDIY
@BEAVERDIY 2 года назад
Ansis, Always look forward to your comment, I learn so much from it, yes fruit is a tricky one, that is why I keep the level of sugar from fruit to a max of 30% this reduces that influence and still gives great flavor.
@Ansis99
@Ansis99 2 года назад
@@BEAVERDIY Yes, we share our knowledge and it makes us wiser! I think it`s great! 👍
@BEAVERDIY
@BEAVERDIY 2 года назад
@@Ansis99 absolutely, keeps the comments coming
@Ansis99
@Ansis99 2 года назад
@@BEAVERDIY :)
@thealembicdiary1814
@thealembicdiary1814 2 года назад
Love the honesty and your still house!!
@BEAVERDIY
@BEAVERDIY 2 года назад
Thank you David
@theironduke9214
@theironduke9214 2 года назад
Hi Beaver. I've tried this experiment with LME 3 or 4 times and came to the same conclusion. The LME that I used on each occasion also left a difficult to describe 'chemical' taste in the finished product. It did the same when I used it to boost the SG of an all grain whisky. This could be just down to me or the LME product, but just watch out for it. Enjoying the channel, keep up the good work. All the best from the UK.
@BEAVERDIY
@BEAVERDIY 2 года назад
Yeah, won't try it again, super interesting to think the flavor changes so much
@mauistevebear
@mauistevebear 2 года назад
Thank you! You saved me the time and money I was thinking about doing. Tempted by the easy road of not mashing
@BEAVERDIY
@BEAVERDIY 2 года назад
Hi Steve, UJSSM has more flavor after gen2 than the LME,
@marcelcrous1141
@marcelcrous1141 2 года назад
Thanks for taking the plunge to see if it works 💪
@cameronshine3465
@cameronshine3465 2 года назад
i think you have some good taste buds. That was a good description of how every thing turned out. nice .
@BEAVERDIY
@BEAVERDIY 2 года назад
Thank you Cameron.
@mvdv6121
@mvdv6121 2 года назад
Thank you, one to strike off my bucket list.
@BEAVERDIY
@BEAVERDIY 2 года назад
Awesome glad I could help.
@KB-uv7xo
@KB-uv7xo 2 года назад
Great video and comments. How about trying a comparison with DME.
@ammerudgrenda
@ammerudgrenda Год назад
Amylase (beta, in particular) is normally required to make LME fermentable.
2 года назад
Please do DME.
@liamsh2654
@liamsh2654 2 года назад
Hi I am a friend of Zindane on discord
@BeardedBored
@BeardedBored 2 года назад
Solid results. I thought maybe the residual sugars would add some complexity to it, but it came out flat. Great test, broer!
@BEAVERDIY
@BEAVERDIY 2 года назад
Yeah Brother, Crazy to think, I thought because it is like a reduction of a wort the flavors will be super concentrated, but it was like watered down whiskey almost like a poorly made UJSSM
@BeardedBored
@BeardedBored 2 года назад
@@BEAVERDIY Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. Glad you tested it side by side!
@BEAVERDIY
@BEAVERDIY 2 года назад
@@BeardedBored Thank you brother, hoping for a better result or atleast a higher yield but let down on both..
@BeardedBored
@BeardedBored 2 года назад
@@BEAVERDIY But now this one can be put to bed. We know now that if you want to use LME you have to use some specialty grains for steeping to boost the flavor profile like a partial grain beer kit. I consider that valuable info for sure!
@mysterytechknowledge3664
@mysterytechknowledge3664 2 года назад
@@BEAVERDIY I am wondering about a Hybrid of the 2, BUT adding the LME to the Mashing process! It seems that (maybe) they may not have completed the conversion of the mash, when making the LME. (Just a thought to try if you still have extra of both.)
@silly6004
@silly6004 2 года назад
I like your shirt. Where do I get one?
@BEAVERDIY
@BEAVERDIY 2 года назад
Hi Brian, Busy with a few designs will post link as soon as I can.
@stephencadwallader5401
@stephencadwallader5401 2 года назад
Do you think that adding enzymes would be helpful to the fermentation?
@BEAVERDIY
@BEAVERDIY 2 года назад
Stephen, that is a super question did not even think of that, maybe do a slight remash.
@ailkenllib
@ailkenllib 2 года назад
Great test dude, good to know and appreciate the honest opinion. I always figured that LME and DME were best suited for beers so the residuals would flavor the beer, didn't think it made sense to use it for distillation. By the way, you seem to have a wild dog running about your property, better get that guard cat trained better, LOL
@garrymcgaw4745
@garrymcgaw4745 2 года назад
G'day Beaver, I was wondering what was the yield of hearts cut in both test batches?. Great vid mate always look forward to your input to the hobby. Cheers from Aussie.
@BEAVERDIY
@BEAVERDIY 2 года назад
Hi Garry, On the LME I got 1.3l @ 75% on the All grain I got 2.4l @ 75%. The LME was a difficult run had to adjust the reflux alot, and the vapor speed was fast to get eth out.
@fourdeadinohio8303
@fourdeadinohio8303 2 года назад
the same thing happened to me when i did LME. i bought it off amazon along with the yeast they recommended. it stopped after a couple of days. i used DADY to save it. i threw in a bunch of sugar and re pitched it. a $60 sugar wash.
@BEAVERDIY
@BEAVERDIY 2 года назад
Glad the LME was sponsored as the 5l of LME would have been crazy expensive
@JohnFerrerAkaEric
@JohnFerrerAkaEric 2 года назад
Do you think using a variety of types of LMEs may add greater flavor/nose complexity? I know it wouldn't be a single malt but it may be easier than mashing.
@Justin-le4ip
@Justin-le4ip 2 года назад
I had very similar results when using LME for a Whisky. Imo for the price you pay, I am sticking to All grain!
@BEAVERDIY
@BEAVERDIY 2 года назад
True that
@spikelove9533
@spikelove9533 2 года назад
I've never tried the liquid malts I'm not a beer fan. I like mashing my grains. If I add anything I'd add corn to bump up the gravity as thats the most available starch grain. If I'm adding the processed malt it's not really a sing malt anymore anyway right? This is a interesting vid. Thanks Beaver. I guess my philosophy on whiskey is home brew is better because we can afford to use better ingredients distill it as slow as we like and it's made with love so uts better than most off the shelf. So to me adding liquid malt is like making cake from a box I guess. Lol I could be look at it completely wrong though.
@nicktaylor2853
@nicktaylor2853 2 года назад
I’m looking to get started making moonshine ethanol for fuel. Does anyone know of a RU-vid channel that gives start up advice?
@vtcrafter6626
@vtcrafter6626 2 года назад
This is like using corn syrup or corn sugar to make corn whiskey. Still get the sugar shine bite to me but maybe because I knew what went into it
@sadday101
@sadday101 Год назад
Did you check the ph?
@danthemann
@danthemann 2 года назад
Timely video for me. Thanks. I was about to start an LME mash (based on other peoples success reports) but now I am a bit concerned! Wasn't your starting gravity about 70-72? But after diluting it was 40? Sorry but I can't quite figure your numbers. What was the final gravity/aby of the mash? What was your yield? I wonder how you even got a liter of hearts! Might your tasting results be heavily influenced by the lack of ABV in the mash (I'm thinking you basically distilled light beer!)
@BEAVERDIY
@BEAVERDIY 2 года назад
Hi Dan, Original gravity of the 20l wash was 1.090 went down to 1.060, after double volume, gravity dropped to 1.040, fermentation started again and only dropped to 1.030. So yes if think you are correct the extremely low ABV was the cause of the lack of flavor, if I am to do LME again I will use it as 50% of the sugar source, so do a partial mash with mainly steeping grains for flavor and some base malt for some conversion. But in all the price of LME and the flavor I got from it even with a Lacto layer was pretty disappointing.
@danthemann
@danthemann 2 года назад
@@BEAVERDIYI figured the LME to be about 32GP/pound / gallon (but I messed up metric conversion..) so we are good there. I would have expected double the volume to halve the SG which what confuses with your follow on numbers. It would be useful to have the 'volume adjusted' (constant scale) numbers. I'm guessing you got about 35-40 points of conversion but in my limited experience slightly sweet mashes can contribute nicely to flavors too. This hobby has way too many variables leading to way to many mysteries!
@BEAVERDIY
@BEAVERDIY 2 года назад
@@danthemann From the research I did I also had the same number 32GP, and yes my thought was if I double the volume my gravity should drop by half, it might have been a false reading becuase of CO2 in original wash or that because the wash left for close to 3 weeks while gravity slowly dropped, and some separation occurred with "lighter" liquid sitting ontop, and when I increased the volume and got all mixed up well and degassed the gravity climbed. Bot 100% sure what happend pH was stable, OG was within yeast range, nutrient was more than enough as I have used the same packet of premix before in a straight sugar wash with only that as nutrient and if fermented to dry twice. My only conclusion is that some unfermentable things are in LME, if you look to the beer industry few to no beers ferment to dry they all end on between 1.020 to 1.010, so with full blown LME that effect was co pounded and thus we were left with a gravity of 1.030. Will have to do a few more test batches to see if I can find the path to full ferment. What I want to try is use a all grain backset and spent grain LME run, what do you think.
@danthemann
@danthemann 2 года назад
@@BEAVERDIY You plan to use the 'leftovers' from one run to flavor the next but with LME as the sugar? That sounds like the type of thing I like to do! I've done similar with sugar and had good results, not as good as the source batch but less cost (I'm cheap) and less waste than starting from scratch/backset. . Go for it!
@bobgreen4531
@bobgreen4531 2 года назад
maybe use lme and dme. could help a bit.
@AgeWhiskey
@AgeWhiskey 2 года назад
Is this a new studio in the making?!
@BEAVERDIY
@BEAVERDIY 2 года назад
How did you guess, busy trying to level up on production and vid quality, so big things coming soon,
@AgeWhiskey
@AgeWhiskey 2 года назад
@@BEAVERDIY love it. Can't wait to see more. Good luck!
@BeardedBored
@BeardedBored 2 года назад
@@BEAVERDIY Nice!
@JasonBelliveau
@JasonBelliveau 2 года назад
Anyone try LME for a vodka?
@BEAVERDIY
@BEAVERDIY 2 года назад
Will work the flavor on the LME was very lack luster.
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