Does Montreal Make Better Bagels than New York? - Dining on a Dime 

A couple of months ago I gave a homeless guy a bagel (I didn't have any change to give) I bought at St. Viateur. I couldn't believe how grateful he was. Told me it had been years since he last had one . It was something he missed having. They really are great comfort food.

I'm from Montreal. But come on, you can't make a blanket statement about all New York bagels being mass produced. There are mass produced bagels in Montreal too, and there are definitely hand made bagels in New York.

St. Viateur is one of first stops when I'm in Montreal. Just the smell of them baking is an unforgettable sense memory.

Welcome back, Lucas! Happy to see you again in this show! Best!

Let's get one thing straight, just because New York sells more bagels does not mean the bagels are mass-produced. There are MANY bagel shops that do small batches in house.

Sitting here in COVID 19 isolating Seattle, this brought my wife and I home to Montreal with a little tear in our eyes.

Finally more dining on a dime!!! So happy 😊

This place has INCREDIBLE rosemary bagels, especially when they’re warm. UGH I want some now!! 😂

Montreal! Amazing! Welcome Lucas!

I did an informal poll on Montreal bagels a few months ago and St-Viateur barely edged out Fairmount. It’s definitely the rivalry in Montreal. 👍

The places I go all make their own bagels. I've never had a massed produced bagel in NYC except at the grocery store.

There’s a lot of places in NYC that make fresh bagels.

Here in am, in Brooklyn, sitting in my car at 6am, getting ready to go into work, eating my bacon egg and cheese on a hot bagel (with a flat bottom) I got from a corner bagel store that DEFINITELY isn’t pumping out “1,000 dozen” bagels a day. Way more “artisanal” than that place in Montreal.

im from montreal!!! finally a video about us

Was there this summer, man in the background at 1:29 talked to my dad for a bit he was nice and we bought a bunch, and after he gave us some free bagels, very nice bagels and people;)

I eat a bagel about 4 times a week, and have for years. They are so good! You definitely develop a taste for a good one!

There is nothing like eating a hot, fresh out of the oven St-Viateur bagel. Yum! And I love the all dressed. So damn 😋

St-Viateur is sooo good. Whenever I am in Montreal I buy 3 to 4 dozen and freeze them at home. The best part about St-Viateur is eating 1 bagel right after purchase. nothing on it, just a hot St-Viateur bagel.

I'm gonna try this place this weekend

In Victoria, there's a wonderful real Montreal-style bagel shop called Mount Royal Bagel Factory. Best we can get on the Island.

Just got back from Montreal and already miss the bagels.

is Begels look like a doughnuts? because in my country (indonesia) the "bread" like that is called Donat/Donut with the varian topping.,

You have got to try out Fairmount's Bagels as well! They're right next to a popular Gnocchi shop as well as an artisanal ice cream shop that consists of a fusion of French and Vietnamese flavours

You guys... I've got a couple things say as we begin this epic FIFTEENTH season of Dining on a Dime in beautiful Montreal, Canada. First, I want to say thanks for watching and tell you how great you are. Second, I want to tell you a story: There's two sets of footprints on a beach, which become one set of footprints, and then become two again. And you said to me, what's with the footprints. And I was like, that was where YOU guys carried ME. And you were like, I don't understand this allegory. And I was like, yeah, it doesn't make much sense. And you were like, can I stop carrying you, because you're sort of heavy. And I was like, okay wiseass, you try eating for a living. I digress. The point is: Whether you're eating tapas in Barcelona or dumplings in Shanghai or shoveling quarters in your mouth outside a laundromat in Fresno, remember that the spirit of Dining on a Dime is always with you. Now please enjoy what's going to be an INCREDIBLE Montreal season, each episode more exciting and delightful than the next. And remember you can bother me over at my Insta @staletwizzlers and also that I love and appreciate you and also can I finally get some fan art. XOXOXO Lucas

Growing up in MTL.. I remember there was a bagel shop on st Catherine + Atwater inside a mall when you walk by on st Catherine you can see them making bagel .. remember the name of the bakery anyone ?

Thank you! Yes, good bread including bagels can be eaten by itself!

There is another location in the west land. If your coming in from Ottawa or Toronto, it's on your way to downtown.

A very diplomatic ending, though they do look and sound delicious, just different.

No bagels in Toronto 🙁 i love Montreal begals, but wouldn't it be great to try both.

I've lived in both an to be completely honest I can't even tell you what an NYC bagel tastes like cus they are nowhere near as good as an MTL one.

@3:30 Well they now have a key as it's now open 6am-midnight. Nearby Fairmount Bagel is still open 24/7.

The beauty of Fairmount or St-Viateur bagel is that they are open 24 hours.. I used to stay out late, sometimes party and just pick up a dozen of these at 3am.... ah memories.

Living in NYC my "hole" life, I've never had a mass produced bagel.

They’re different beasts. Also for me it’s all about Fairmount bagels.

I've tried both, it's hard to compare. Montreal bagels are better if you eat them within 7-8 hours after they come out of the oven. I love it when the sesame seeds are slightly burnt.

Missed this show.

Lucas is back! We missed you, buddy! :D

Lucas: “Who doesn’t like creamcheese?” Me: David Seymour

I LOVE St.-Viateur Bagels but I much prefer their poppyseed bagels to sesame. That's just a preference because anything from St.-Viateur is just amazing! The difference is the boiling in the honey water. I have NEVER eaten a Montreal bagel that was topped with anything. They are best eaten just as they are.

What place in NY is mass producing bagels? Sounds like the guy went to Panera Bread

montreal love thanks lucas

Those who haven't tried MTL'S bagles, haven't lived...

I'm a Bager Baker in new york we dont use machines. Lol kettle boiled ,rotating oven . Just like the old days.

Historically, the Jews who brought the bagel from northern Europe to North America ended up in either New York, Montreal or Toronto. They produced the same bagel. A friend from New York bought fresh NYC bagels, flew to Toronto where we had a taste test with fresh Toronto bagels. The result with 6 tasters concluded that it was the same bagel!!! Enter the Montreal Style bagel from Outremont, Montreal made by Hasidic Jews. What a difference, more reminiscent of a baguette but still retaining the chewiness and flavour. You can also get them in Toronto all baked in wood fired ovens. The Montreal style bagel is much preferred by real bagel aficionados, but there are some who prefer the original...all fresh baked. Ignore the frozen or mass produced by bakery chains. For my money, and probably yours (politics aside) the best bagel is the Montreal style bagel, hands down! Cheers, (“who the hell is”) Colin!

nice one!

Montreal-style bagels are amazing.

I'm from NYC. I've been to Montreal many many times, and have had bagels at St. Viateur and Fairmount. Both make a really high-quality product - delicious really - albeit something significantly different from my idea of a "bagel". What was really disappointing though was the St. Viateur baker's poorly-informed assessment of NY bagels. Not boiled? Mass-produced? Where exactly did he get his bagels in NYC? From the supermarket? In a sealed plastic bag? There's noting particularly special about my neighborhood (in Queens), but I can get bagels - fresh-baked in the back of the store, still warm - at my choice of several different places a few minutes away. I have to imagine this guy has very limited experience with New York.

Nice video! Thanks Lucas! Now i know where my next travel destination will be

I'm more of a Fairmount man, myself.

Eeeeeyyyyy, welcome back!

go to ile flotante, its 4 doors down, but im going to assume you are already gone...

WTF is this guy talking about? NYC mass produces? Mom and Pop bagel shops hand make their bagels all day in tiny kitchens. Do you know how many bagel you would need to sell to afford the space needed to have a factory in NYC?

I'm from Alberta, what's a bagel taste like?

"A strong bagel should stand on its own" Amen!

I'm so down with a Mtl season!!! 👌🙏

There was a blind test done years ago between the winner of the NYC best bagel and Fairmount bagel. Fairmount won. Fairmount is still better than St-Viateur.

Grew up on Bagels in Cote Des Neige. My bagel shop was Cantors on Darlington Id grab one every time I went to buy some rye bread for my mom. Hot out of the oven. No cheese needed

good video

My favorite bagel shop in Montreal is Cote St Luc Bagel inc.

I prefer Fairmont Bagle but St-Viateur are good too

Hand s down!! We kick NY s ass!!!!! St.Viateur are GODS!!!! All done by hand,and with passion!!!

*Gotta give it to Montreal, having tried both*

Wow, it has been a while. The last time we saw your episode, it was in Rome right?

Had both from NYC and Montreal, I give it to Montreal, but have only had Fairmount. You should have went to both Montreal places they are practically right near each other.

Food expert/raconteur, Anthony Bourdain said it best, "Damn you Montreal!" after taking a bite of a Beauty's bagel.

It's easy to be brave from afar..Enjoy!..try it with greek feta...nuff said.

yes

They are both good.

Wow, that's a nice round sesame pretzel

Great vid, Thanks for this

I wonder how these are compared to utopia bagels

Hi, I'm from Montréal, St-viateur bagles are very good, but I have a preferrence for Fairmount bagles.

1:53 putting rolled bagels dough to make more bagels.. Mindblowing!

im slightly bias since im from Canada but im a hard yes on the montreal style

The best bagels are from st viateur,montreal.

Viateur bagels and they were excellent but buying it in the grocery store is a different story. It's offensive to call one one! bagel shop better than all of New Yorks bagels shops. I am from Montreal and I have had New York bagels that I could just chew into without cream cheese.

The other difference is that New York Bagels are super high in sodium compared to Montreal Bagels which have like 10 to 15 mg, New York Bagels have like 500 milligrams so a person like me on a low sodium diet goes for that Montreal bagel every time

MONTRÉAL FOR LIFE

Love Bagels

i work at st-viateur bagel at mont-royal

New York bagels are boiled in barley malt syrup instead of honey. Most New York bagels are hand made so no I difference there too. The only difference I know of is that NY bagels are made with cold water instead of warm and that the NY bagels are Refrigerated overnight before boiling.

Lucas definitely prefers Montreal bagels over NYC bagels. He just doesn't want to say it! ;)

Fairmount Bagel in Montreal is just as good.

But has he gone to Utopia bagels???

Tasted the best of both Montreal destroys the New York bagel, same goes with smoked meat

Not Fairmount bagel??????

Bagel from NYC or Montreal, don't matter to me, I'll eat BOTH.

Somehow watching Lucas is so relaxing

I see Lucas, i like i watch i hangry.

Fairmount Bagel, a block away, is equally as good. Personally, I'm more of a poppy seed bagel person, but regardless, if it ain't from either of those two shops in Montreal, it's not a bagel.

Why is everyone acting like hand rolled bagels is a new thing.... It existed for ever. What makes NY hand rolled bagels great is the honed skill through decades of practice and that NYC tap water (straight from the Catskills)

Where you been Lucas!?...good to see you back up!!

Oh hey Lucas been awhile

Releasing a video about bagels in the morning, Eater? I see you 👀

Montreal bagels are hands down the best.

I haven't had bagels before,Iam in Australia and also isn't it like bread? Also any good places in Australia,Brisbane that sell bagels?

i think saw this kind of video before. lol

Who’s here after seeing that one guy get played?

My favorite bagel is whatever city I’m in.

In fact, Bagels originate from the culture of Polish Jews. Bagel is a roll with a hole, not a roll rolled on the Bagels pattern. It is more popular in the USA than in Europe or in Poland itself, which is why it is so called by migration. Bagel, on the other hand, is not formed from dough rollers - a hole should be made in the bun without breaking it and forming it.