Does MovementPlus RUIN Bomb Rush Cyberfunk??? 

Thanks everyone for commenting and contributing to the discussion! I’m pinning this to let everyone know I wrote this script before the custom levels were actively being added, so my points about the levels not being made for movement plus changes a lot when you introduce these new levels. I highly recommend movement plus if you play any of the custom sonic levels, they make it much more enjoyable!

My thing is movement plus isn't necessarily a bad mod, it's definitely fun to fly around at top speeds. But I think the realism of the basic movement looks and sometimes feels better. It's all a matter of what you want your gameplay to feel like.

It ruins it for me, I won't ever use it. I'm glad for people who do enjoy it though.

I adore movement plus but I wont pretend that going from movement plus back to vanilla for whatever reason I may have doesn't induce at least brief growing pains trying to readjust to the slower, more laid back pace. Id recommend that (ideally) movement plus should only be installed AFTER beating the game for the 1st time (then never turning off unless you really wanna do activates online).

I use it with the settings turned waaaaay down and the more broken options turned off. I like having my speed accelerate through skill and combos, not instant top speed from just landing on the right pixels or surfaces

The only problem to me when i used it at first is how ridiculous is to exploit and farm speed, doesn't feel fulfilling, granted, if feels gifted like, precisely as you say, as a speed boost and it SHOULDN'T feel that way, you should ear speed by playing with the geometry of the game, not just by spamming boost tricks and jumping, there's no much challenge on that and to me personally, it's just no fun Tldr: i want to go faster, not flying without much control whatsoever Good thing it has some customization tho, but at first glance can be a bummer

The default settings are way too overtuned imo. Its better if you reduce it to sane levels but most wont do that because it takes a lot of tweaking

misrepresentation is probably the best point, I never thought of it that way. putting a disclaimer in the description that movement plus was used is a really good idea too

Movement plus wouldn't be nearly as necessary if some of the levels were just, less boring. Why is that plaza section in the mall so huge with almost nothing in it? Same with that really long section of Mataan. I'd much rather have a mod that just edits all the base game levels adds way more objects and routes to trick off of.

As someone who thinks that BRC could use a little bit more speed, I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels like the mod goes too much against the intended design of the game. It's a cool mod and I'm glad people enjoy it though.

Tried it out while browsing mods, instantly uninstalled it. To me, I see it more as a way to enjoy the game once you've beat it, and I don't have a problem with that. I do feel like it sort of goes again what team reptile has in mind, but to each their own I guess.

I don't use it, because I already enjoy the base game. But the only time I'll use MovementPlus is in a big custom map with a Sonic skin. MovementPlus is just too much for the vanilla maps.

I believe it does ruin as I heavily agree with con#2 the speed kills the simplicity and the weight of how you do tricks and just trivialize the hard routes you take to get to a heaven spot I really love the wall splat tho it gives more depth to the mix of realistic bmx, skateboarding, rollerblading, and parkour with having a rocket powered backpack without abandoning the identity game has made for itself

Your second pro is the biggest one, for me. It lets you jump off one line and latch onto another in ways that weren’t possible before. I did my first playthrough vanilla, and really enjoyed ‘coloring inside the lines,’ but now I want to explore what’s possible by ‘coloring _outside_ the lines.’ I grew up with games like Tony Hawk (or Halo, Unreal Tournament…) that might’ve included a mode like this on the disk, whether as a cheat code, collectible, or new game+ option - which is exactly how I’m using it here. Also using soap shoes so I can play the whole game on foot and feel like a Kingdom Hearts character with a boostpack.

I just play the switch version, i got used to the 60pfs after just after playing 30fps the first day the game dropped and it's nice won't change it for anything else, this kind of classic approach to games is what i like, pc is a totally different world people make crews add characters is a whole lot of content that idk if i could handle it.

Solid vid overall dude, you are definetly not wrong when it comes to how the vanilla game feels after using movement plus. i decided that id try play vanilla a few days back and found that it wasnt as furfilling. This comes especially with the maps in the game when comparing vanilla to movement plus but with the new custom maps id say that movement pluss is way more versatile

I never thought about it that way, I think a disclaimer at the beginning would be a really good way to mitigate the accidental scenarios where new players get scammed

You're such a goat for considering new players and adding a disclaimer that you're using movement plus

Constructive video, I enjoyed it! I think it's all about the balance. I tweaked my settings to be a bit more subtle and turned off certain effects and I'm very happy with how the movement flows. Shame you can't use it with multiplayer but it makes sense.

Honestly I think the mod does ruin the core idea of the game a bit but I don't think the speed mod is necessarily bad I think once custom maps start becoming more of a regular thing in bomb rush the mod will start to shine, I've already seen a video of someone playing a sonic inspired map using the movement plus mod and its insane

When I saw the Peter griffin video and other videos that used movement plus without me knowing, I was like “Yo I wanna buy the game and do that” But when I did… I was perplexed. I thought maybe the people in those videos got so good at the moment, that there was some kind of technique that I wasn’t picking up on that made them go fast. And unfortunately I dropped BRC and went on to play Pseudoregalia, Spark 3 and the Rollin Rascal demo, which all have great momentum. Now that I’ve seen this video, I understand why I was initially disappointed with the basic movement of BRC. PS I do kinda wish now that Team Reptile gets this mod into the game officially some how.

As a little speed gremlin that is obsessed with tight movements, small adjustments and breakneck speed, I love this mod.

i think movement plus really doesnt work in the base game but on custom maps made with movement plus in mind it is an absolute blast. i think we just need more maps built around the mod

I did my first run of the game without it. But once I finish it I installed mods. And MovementPlus was absolutely awesome. I loved it.

This was a great analysis on the mod and the ideas you conveyed throughout the video are exactly what i think about how this mod completely changes the preception of new players on the game. I waited for brc for 3 years since they released the trailer in 2020 and when i finally got to play it, well i can definitely say the controls were not as i expected them to be in the first place but after i got the hang of them it was a pretty enjoyable experience, in fact i would say it's a step up from jsrf. I really have never seen a need to improve the core gameplay mechanics, but i can definitely understand that feeling of having run out of things to do and crave for something new, like a dlc or more movement options. What i really think is the problem here is not the newly added gameplay features but rather the speed is what's killing the way people view the game, brc was not designed to be like a sonic the hedgehog game, even though it would totally outperform it with the use of custom maps. And as for the community, i have never really seen anyone complaining about the mod at first when it first came out (speaking for my ignorance, i haven't join back in 3 or 4 months), but honestly i think this game's community is so much more chill than from other game you could find out there, i really haven't seen any drama on it and in general i think everyone here has been very respectful and cool, but everyone has to remember that everyone chooses how to play the game. You can always install and uninstall the mod, anytime, free of charge. And no one is gaining an advantage over it, it's just a different way of enjoying the game, just how Ultrakill allows you to use cheats if you really can't fathom the complex control scheme and the barrages of bullets coming right at you. I really appreciate that awareness is being brought into the matter with videos like this as i also think it's the best way to cut tensions between both sides and reunite the community again, as well as colectively look for a solution to how we should make use of this mod regarding how new players see it and how experienced players should use it as to not ruin the vanilla experience. Thank you so much for taking the time to read my comment and i apologize if i made any mistakes, i'm not very good at english lol TLDR: Game is great, mods are too. Play the game how you like the most :)

It's just boring to watch compared to the actual gameplay. It's less interesting. In fact it looks less deep than standard gameplay because half of you guys do nothing but fly around the map.

I had to massively tweak Movement Plus in order to get something even close to what I considered more "vanilla" feeling gameplay and even then it's clear how much the game world was specifically made for the OG physics Now the Style Switching mod I'm definitely keeping that on permanently. Double the tricks and slightly more variation in trick speed and manual times 😎

I don’t understand how something optional can ruin a whole game, and the mod is massively customizable the each person liking too. I could see how one could say it’s ruin by destroying the level design but you could also wait till you finish the game to download mods to preserve the original and intended experience. It could also be a game changing mod for people and change their entire outlook on the game in a good way

I'm a bit of a purist but I will admit, you got got me considering it. My main worry was that it would've gotten crack for me and I wouldn't want to touch the old game again. But you mentioning you still appreciate the game without movement plus, and the fact that there's tons of custom maps now that work better with movement plus, kinda sold me

I just started moding the game and been having alot of fun, Yeah ik the fast movements were mods for sure but i wanted to try it. It is definitely tricky with the default settings and im getting the hang of it but i can go with or without movement plus.

would recommend a link to the mod and yuris youtube channel in the desc, will go find them after this, but figured thatd be a handy convienience for any future watchers

I'd been waiting for BRC since around the first trailer, and when I realized that the game was as slow as it was, on top of having no wall running, or at the very least wall _planting,_ I refunded it. After getting it on sale a few months later, I got some mods my friend recommended me, movement plus and wall plant included. I never looked back. I've heard one of the biggest complaints about movement plus being how easy it was to build speed but, for me at least, it's never been an issue. Of course it's gotten easier as I've gotten better but I've never found a truly solid way to instantly gain a burst of speed like I see some people do. The only problem I ever had with MP was the fast fall which felt a little intrusive in my parkour/slide based gameplay, so I disabled it pretty early on. Maybe that's why I can't build speed so fast? Regardless MP really has become the only way to play for me, and I'm glad I played through the entire game that way. Wall plant made the experience a lot more enjoyable too, I seriously can't fathom the reason as to why it isn't isn't a base feature. Sure it lets you skip some things or avoid intended routes, but isn't carving your own path what parkour games are all about? Honestly, I think BRC would be a much better game if some of the levels were a little more open, the speed was a good bit higher, and there was more depth to the tricks and parkour. Movement Plus is awesome but I can understand why some people don't want to use it- the game straight up just wasn't built for it. That idea of building and carrying momentum, though, is so satisfying and leads to such fantastic and emergent gameplay, that I don't really understand why BRC didn't lean into it a little more.

I think it’s best as an alternative way to play the game. I tend to switch back and fourth between vanilla movement to movement plus a lot. As fun as it is, I don’t think it’s superior to the vanilla gameplay, as m plus takes away the exploration aspect like looking around for outfits, cds, and graffiti spots. Although it’s a great option for whenever you’re feeling board from the base game.

I like the idea of being rewarded with a speed boost for good skill but the lack of speed cap ruins it, going exponentially faster until you reach unreasonable speeds just isnt fun. But going idk. Twice as fast max? Looks fun

I use the more vanilla mod config that yuri put out and I'm loving it! Movement plus is just a tad too fast, but it's still super cool!

I was someone who played vanilla JSR and some of JSRF and absolutely loved those games. coming from those to BRC was soooo enjoyable, because it was a nice and clean transition from the controls that even expanded upon mechanics. This all being said, I was also one of the people who was exposed to movement plus before playing the game, unaware it was a mod. While it was a let-down to know the high speed movement i was a little starry-eyed about was from a mod, i still to this day find myself playing more with the vanilla movement. Again, as a previous JSR player, these limited controls make for some satisfying strings when pulled off. For me, theres something to appreciate with the limited-ness of it all. Movement plus is simply an add-on to me. It doesn't detract from the original game, because i'm still able to love and appreciate how vanilla movement ties the game all together. Movement+ is simply a new way to experience everything. It's not a sentiment i've really heard myself, but it does dishearten me to think that others can have their experience ruined from the existence of a mod when the original game still is wonderful in its own right.

Is there anyway you can rock movement plust with the vanilla speed? I just like the new movement options on top of the vanilla speed and moveset.

I mainly just hope that the people who play this game, finish it or get close to the end before using the mod.

For me, is an addition to the game. I haven't played it yet. I want to finish it 100% and then go to the movementPlus. Not only that, but I won't be making any content online about the game and just going to play it casually.

I have never played or even knew this game existed yet this video for a mod of a game Ive never played, found its way onto my front page...

So I'm making this comment as an addendum to my previous one, I gave Movement+ a go (minus the wall plant and fast fall mod), and found out that there are settings to make the movement similar to vanilla. It did things like reduce how much speed you can accumulate and such, I'm not sure of all the intricacies. I think it functions as a good middle ground. I really like the sense of building speed and like having to worry about slopes that will either build up/decrease my speed. However, I'm not really a fan of how it feels like the combo system suffers. Not a huge fan of how difficult it is to accrue score and multiplier. Feels like leaning into rail turns is just to gain speed rather than combos. And frankly, I don't think the game's maps support the level of speed super well. Things are too condensed for you not to loop in on the map. Which is why I think the perfect use for Movement+ is custom maps. I absolutely loved how much speed I was able to get in maps like Emerald Coast and Metal City, as these maps let you both get speed and have the area that lets you move fast. To be honest, what I feel could improve Movement+ exponentially would be an option in-game to either enable or disable it when the time needs it. It'd make it so much easier to participate in Score Battles/Races as well as to have the option to really move on larger custom maps. I'm unsure if such a thing could even be possible, nor if the mod creator is willing to look into it but I really think that a way to get the best of both worlds.

I turn it off for the regular game but I feel like particularly for custom maps like Sonic Riders Metal City they neeeeed MovementPlus or they're super slow Walljump I freaking love and feels like it should have been part of the game but it's also OP with the original design of the game so I think in general yeah these mods "ruin" the original experience and you should wait until you have played most of the game vanilla/beaten it It's a really good point though on how a lot of the videos new players will see of BRC might be really modded out and may be misleading (makes me grateful I got to experience the game from launch)

I think overall it does ruin it but I also think it's fine to mess around with once you're done with everything and just wanna mindlessly run everywhere and essentially skip over level design. That being said some stuff like wall jumps and floor slam etc I think are fine because they kinda just give you more stuff to work with while not removing the core of the intended gameplay but the speed and added jump height are what truly ruin the proper experience. I think modding it enough to make it like a tony hawk game would be a perfect balance of added freedom and intended gameplay

Personally I dont see anything bad with it, It's just that its simply too overpowered for the base game maps. for bigger custom maps, it fits right in. For example it breaks the mall's design easily, but say the Grand Metropolis mod from Sonic Heroes, its perfect.

i stopped using for three reasons: online activities such as combo battles, it being unusable (well impractical i guess) on some great maps like sony hawk, and because when you do slides on the intended slide areas it goes ballistically fast which can be a bit annoying at times when you want more control. its a fantastic mod though and adds so much depth alongside wallplant and bounce that i almost feel bad when i do turn it off, but sometimes the trade off (especially the first two points) is too much for smaller maps and online combo battles. i do use it when im already familiar with a map though

I think it does to a degree, it looks sick though. Hopefully the devs of the actual game pay attention and accommodate the fanbase in the future.

It turns the game into a different game. Which some people may like, some may not. For one, though, the vanilla locations surely aren't designed for those amounts of speed, so that's one thing you could say "ruins" the game if you are using that mod. But not the mod itself.

i understand this pov but i personally dont have an issue with swapping between movement plus and vanilla movement, i just have to remind myself "ok this isnt modded"

In a game designed with insane movement in mind such as Cloudbuilt, this would be the coolest shit ever. But in this game, I always felt that achieving a nice flow with the moveset you have was the most fun part. Managing boost, tricks and even rail corners all contributed to a very fun sense of flow that made you feel quick, but not over-powered. Movement plus just kinda makes you skip everything. And it can be fun for a while, but gets shallow very quickly as insane amounts of speed are super easy to gain.

While the vanilla gameplay focus more on maintaining the combo Movement plus rather focuses on the "keep the momentum" stuff. I really like the movement plus but i still feel that could coexhist with another mod that could focus and expand on that "keep the combo" design philosophy.

I have been using the mod since release and I'm considering on disabling it. While it's a fun mod, it does disrupt the big mod that connects us Sloppy players together. I think that after a while, I got tired of being fast and I just like to chill.

thumbs up even though i hate the music

Short answer: Yeah Long answer: Nah, actually no bc you can just NOT USE it

I personally didn’t mess with mods till after my first playthrough of the game and I think movement plus made the game more engaging and fun post game

I just do both movement + and vanilla i love both moving around at high speed and then on my other save finding the correct paths to complete levels i just love the game tbh

its the reverse for me, i cant see the appeal of jumping over the entire map back and forth that shit just looks and feels really boring but advanced movement in any game is a plus in general

I played the entirety of the base game without movement+ knowing it existed, because I knew that the second I installed it I would 100% never play without it. I was right. I love the base game, but movement+ just elevates it to the next level for me.

ill probably try movement+ again since it does look like a genuinely cool experience, but i did not like it at first LOL the speed looked and felt awkward in maps that are too cramped for it. the windmill area in pyramid hill is like, a perfect use of movement+, i think custom maps with more open areas/larger maps would make it feel/look better to me personally. but wouldnt i bash anyone who uses it .

Yes The vanilla movement is dope as fuck, especially with the advanced stuff like LGBTs (that's a real thing lol)

Having extra movement options like the wall jump is nice but the speed is waaaaay to overblown

I think - pardon the pun, this mod might.... Shape, da future. I have a feeling that if one of the game devs of BRCF played this, and if we ever got a BRCF2, they'd probably be like "this is garbage" when they first play movement plus but then when they go back to the main game - like you said, they might find the game too slow. This sort of thing happened with Street Fighter 2 when Rainbow Edition hit the market, and it's a reason why turbo exists. I'd imagine hypothetically if we were to get BRCF2, there could be a "jetpack booster" upgrade that could be toggled to give an experience closer to movement plus. Maybe. Thats wishful thinking I guess Edit: YOU'RE THE RING STYLE GUY?!

I mean I personally don't like it but other people can enjoy it. I would only use it for sonic levels, and even then, I would use the lower settings

for me, is not about ruining it. is just changing it, making BRC and BRC+the mod 2 different things. I rather go vanilla tbh

if you can adjust all of the values yourself, just turn the speed down a lot

I think with a lower movement speed, movement plus would be welcome on my mods list. Yes, it is very manageable with the speed it currently functions at. But the game upon release really felt more about flow than just zip zoomin everywhere on the map. But combine a more flowy speed with the current trick mods and whatnot, think it'll be something gold. Add a variable slider for how fast you want the character to move. Easiest solution. Not everyone wants to go fast.

very good video! only gripe is that it seems a bit silly that even after you specifically noted you can change the speed and settings in pro #3 the literal first entry in the cons list is "it's too fast" lol now I've never used the mod personally, but my answer to the question posited in the title and video is still a no. I've noted my opinion on con #1 already, and I think the only actual valid downside on the list would be con #2 since that's is actually something caused purely by the environments not being meant for the mod's added functionality. #3 is less a con of Movement Plus and more an incompatibility issue on the other mod's part, though not for invalid reasons as M+ would give an unfair advantage against vanilla players. #4 is also not a fault of M+ because communities split on silly things all the time lmao, really it's more a problem of people's perspective than a fault of the mod. #5 is a close second for most valid concern, but imo that's still a fault of creators not labeling their mod usage and people not looking into the game any further before buying it. as I said before: overall great video. very solid in terms of editing and ideas. I do think most of the cons weren't really things that are faults of the mod and only served to unnecessarily pad out the cons column, but that didn't detract from my enjoyment much at all. keep up the great work on your videos and thanks for the entertainment!

Personally, I'm gonna wait until I get every achievement in the game before I start using it, I don't want to make things infinitely easier for myself lol Also, this is unrelated but do you know of any videos that give a good explanation on how to mod custom boards/skates/bikes/etc into the game? I haven't found anything myself yet.

you said something about a bounce mod, can you link that? Ive only found the wallplant mod.

I like the down boost and wall jump. I feel like that should have been in vanilla. I will say I am one of the people who was gaslit by people using this mod "what 200hrs in bomb rush looks like." And it was a Hatsune Miku whizzing around the map at breakneck speed. I got the game and got the Miku mod and played vanilla all the way through. I prefer the chill gameplay, but movement plus is definitely really cool on some custom maps.

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I feel like movement plus is really nice to play with if you already mastered the game and want to mess around

I don’t like bounce, its more fun to play for momentum then use rail inclines for big jumps

what mod are you using for your character?

alot of the people saying that you go to fast with this mod must be forgetting the fact that you can change the speed of literally everything this mod adds lmao

I think it absolutely does. Traditionally in video games, classic nes/snes/genesis era games denoted items with a + sign to show the player that it was better than the original NON + item/thing. Movement PLUS doesnt do that. Why do i think that? Mainly because it doesnt work in the sandbox that its in. Just going fast isnt enough . If movement plus was a mod that added a slew of individual features that moved the needle further in overall movement not just make it go faster. Then this would be a different conversation. However, every single video ive seen of this game that has movement plus js just a dude going so fast that they can barely control their character and as a viewer you barely see what is happening. A real movement plus would be like the differences in traversal from spiderman 1 to spiderman to. The new ps5 games that is. A good example of evolution of traversal. If they evolved the traversal like that. Id be on board

MovementPlus should be an unlockable reward for beating the game. It can be toggled on or off on the main menu at any time.

Overall I feel pretty much the same

Feels like more of a preference thing. Just play how you want to play bomb rush

Bro doesn't want to split the community but say that those who don't use the mod use "vanilla movements" 💀💀

MovementPlus could be really great. If only I had several hours of free time to reconfigure it into something satisfactory.

i dont like the mod at all. These maps clearly weren't meant for high speeds and trying to get any combo whatsoever is a nightmare

base game is way too slow in my opinion. mind you, i didn't think that until i tried m+, but i absolutely love flying around at high speeds

I love Movement Plus. It’s just a mod showing how the game could be improved. JSR -> JSRF did similar with easier grinding and increased speed (for most characters).

Think this is just me but I say no but at the same time it can add issues but you pretty much point out everything

movement plus is overtuned for vanilla maps.

Its good for those sonic mods lol

i Want multiplayer with movement plus.

I hate MovementPlus. However, I love the VanillaPlus config file along with the Wallplant and Rebound mods, I think they make the perfect balance for a faster gameplay while still having room for actually using the map the way it was meant to

Ducklord approves.

Movement plus doesn't ruin the game, it just doesn't appeal to a lot of folks. A lot of the people i see using the mod like blasting off at super speed, and to me I feel like i'm missing most of the level and experience if i'm just zooming through.

Yes

this is why i mostly dislike modding. instead of fixing issues, giving QoL improvements and adding new content, some mods go nuts and totally change the game ruining its believability

Lower speed cap? Questionmark

Literally yes it does.

I just wish i could play movementplus but im on switch ;-;

I wouldn't say that this mod is bad, however it's just not how this game was designed to play. It would suit better as a Sonic fan game rather than JSR style. Cuz what's the point of all those rails and advertisement screens if you can just whoosh right past them all 3 times faster with boost high jump

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my own verdict, base settings are too high

Movement Plus is not bad but is not for my taste in this game,fits more with the Sonic games.