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Does Size Matter? Small Vs Big Fighters 

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@robertnguyen9493
@robertnguyen9493 Год назад
I fought amateur MMA at 135lbs, and I walked around between 150-155. But I was the smallest guy at the gym I trained out of. My smallest training partner was still 20lbs heavier than me. Size does matter! That being said, skill also matters as does mindset. A honey badger weighs between 20-35lbs and is absolutely ferocious. They will regularly square off with lions and jaguars and survive. Size absolutely matters, but it’s only one of the factors that decides the outcome of a fight.
@antondredoublee7727
@antondredoublee7727 Год назад
That's crazy that the next smallest guy was still having to cut nearly 40 lbs. I can understand if it's a middleweight or light heavyweight, but cutting that much or more for all those guys at that size just seems really unhealthy. I doubt most amateurs have the expertise and guidance to do that as safely and properly as pros too but maybe I'm wrong.
@robertnguyen9493
@robertnguyen9493 Год назад
@@antondredoublee7727 I was the only bantamweight at the gym. I trained with two middleweights, a light heavyweight, and one training partner that would classify as a super heavyweight. I only cut about 20lbs. I apologize for any confusion.
@vinniedixon1140
@vinniedixon1140 Год назад
There's no jaguars in Africa for honey badgers to face or honey badgers in South America for jaguars to face.
@TeutobergForestryService
@TeutobergForestryService Год назад
But a Wolverine, which is nearly the same animal in terms of abilities, is 15% heavier and would destroy a honey badger.. a good big beats a good small
@blindshot709
@blindshot709 Год назад
@@TeutobergForestryService I live in Canada and Wolverines will fight grizzly's , mountain lions and wolves .
@OhGeeGanksta
@OhGeeGanksta Год назад
Of course size matters. Skill makes a difference too. But between 2 equally skilled fighters, the bigger fighter is going to have an advantage.
@Indacut4545
@Indacut4545 Год назад
You’re just talking,it’s a two way street
@OhGeeGanksta
@OhGeeGanksta Год назад
@@Indacut4545 Smh. Why do you think we have weight classes? I really doubt you've ever been in a real fight if you don't realize size and reach matters. If Mighty Mouse tries to fight Jon Jones, MM would die.
@damoncherry5649
@damoncherry5649 Год назад
@@OhGeeGanksta I like how you used the most extreme weight and size difference
@OhGeeGanksta
@OhGeeGanksta Год назад
@@damoncherry5649 Yes, because he's denying size matters period. So why does it matter how "extreme" my example is if it doesn't? So now you're trying to change the goal post, "size only matters if they're this much bigger and this much stronger..." Like I said, between two closely skilled fighters, size matters. People who deny that are idiots who haven't actually ever fought. There are other factors, but clearly, as you had conceded, size freaking matters.
@damoncherry5649
@damoncherry5649 Год назад
@@OhGeeGanksta lmao because it’s not usually that extreme bro.. your moving the goal post.. with pros it matters.. they are elite.. in the streets it just matters who’s the better smarter fighter.. I’ve seen a lot of big dudes get knocked out and manhandled by lil niggas.. size don’t equal automatic wins unless your a high level fighter
@albertc2390
@albertc2390 Год назад
Size matters. When you have someone big laying into you from the top position, you are in a world of hurt.
@hms9891
@hms9891 Год назад
Yeah, I compete at heavyweight on amateur circuit I am 215-225. It’s usually little people who don’t know how to fight, or have an idea who say “bigger they are the harder they fall” 😂
@Indacut4545
@Indacut4545 Год назад
Notice how nobody talks about the other way around.This why some of you don’t know how to fight,it’s driven into your head from children that you don’t fight the big guy
@dirtgames13
@dirtgames13 Год назад
Lol i get it
@damoncherry5649
@damoncherry5649 Год назад
@@hms9891 lmao it’s usually the big guys who can’t fight.. that think them being big equals winning a fight.. if you can fight you can fight .. if you can’t you can’t.. size doesn’t change that
@damoncherry5649
@damoncherry5649 Год назад
@@Indacut4545 I was raised anybody can get it.. if they to big you pick something up
@jimsheppard3166
@jimsheppard3166 Год назад
I like Paul Felder more on the 🎙️ then I did as a fighter, and he was one of my favorite fighters. I'm glad he was given an opportunity to commentate after he wrapped up his career. He's very good at offering insight and experience but also keeps the attention and focus on the fighters, instead of making it about himself.
@TheSlowPony77
@TheSlowPony77 Год назад
I prefer him commentating over anyone else tbh.
@tlz124
@tlz124 4 месяца назад
Dominic Cruz bugs the most
@galacticmaui2
@galacticmaui2 Год назад
When skill is comparable size matters. With that said a lot of untrained big guys don’t do as well against smaller skilled guys.
@michaelhauser6440
@michaelhauser6440 Год назад
There's more to fighting than skill too. No two guys are going to be equally matched. Some guys will be faster, more aggressive, tougher, stronger, more experienced etc.
@galacticmaui2
@galacticmaui2 Год назад
@@michaelhauser6440 speaking broadly of course there is a million different factors that go into it.
@sandews8564
@sandews8564 Год назад
@@michaelhauser6440 just speaking like professional against professional I see his point. But smaller skilled guys always get the average big guy literally always
@Quanddidoz
@Quanddidoz Год назад
@@sandews8564 skilled big dudes destroy literally everyone by your logic then,
@sandews8564
@sandews8564 Год назад
@@Quanddidoz nah never said that at all a skilled big guy vs newbie small guy is obvious a skilled big and small guy is a good fight
@joshdaley3061
@joshdaley3061 Год назад
Cowboy had been asking for weigh-ins on the day of the fight for years
@marcusaurelius5149
@marcusaurelius5149 Год назад
I watched a Japanese fight were the weigh in was 3 or 4 days before the fight. The weight difference between the two fighters was nearly 40 lbs. What's the point of weight classes when you have that much time?
@deBrawnyo
@deBrawnyo Год назад
Then we'd need a whole bunch of weight classes. No one is cutting even 5 lbs of weight in a day and fighting like a sound healthy man the same day.
@josephwatson7232
@josephwatson7232 6 месяцев назад
@@deBrawnyopeople would not cut. They would diet/ bulk right to the line. All of the weight classes would shift up but it would work. E.G. welterweight would become 190 or less. Fighters would diet all year and show up between 186-189.9
@JasonX2
@JasonX2 6 месяцев назад
Weigh in after the fight like F1 drivers
@frankcastle3942
@frankcastle3942 Год назад
I will forever advocate for weigh-ins the day of the fight. It's crazy that some dudes cut 30+ pounds and then re-hydrate.
@fignewtoneater
@fignewtoneater Год назад
then fights will have to be canceled last minute
@letmegetuhhh3959
@letmegetuhhh3959 Год назад
There would be more day of cancellations and when other places tried it, fighters just went in severely compromised and took more damage
@lorenzo-pj7rj
@lorenzo-pj7rj Год назад
@@fignewtoneater no they won’t, it’ll just force fighters to fight at their natural and authentic weight. This will expose a lot of fighters. They could also do rehydration clauses
@MuayChaiyaJustin
@MuayChaiyaJustin Год назад
@@lorenzo-pj7rj too risky and huge financial liability, it may not be what you wanna hear but it is simply too risky for promotions to do same day weigh ins
@rsia08
@rsia08 Год назад
And maybe have a range of 5 lbs or so that the fighters can fall within, so LW would be something like 152.5-157.5, reducing the likelihood for cancelations? There might be problems that would arise though.
@lordnarasimha2500
@lordnarasimha2500 Год назад
Size matters relative to skill set and skill level. Bigger your opponent is, the more tailored your skillset as well as the skill difference needs to be.
@BkBk-gy6vr
@BkBk-gy6vr Год назад
Wrong, more advantages to the smalled fighter.
@lordnarasimha2500
@lordnarasimha2500 Год назад
@@BkBk-gy6vr I don’t even know where to begin with how incorrect your comment is….
@BkBk-gy6vr
@BkBk-gy6vr Год назад
@Lord Narasimha You dont know where to beging because you dont know what you're talking about. Ive trained in martial arts my whole life and have witnessed the smaller guys have the advantage and more stamina. All you have to do is watch boxing and MMA and you will see on average, the smaller guy wins. Mike Tyson was the baddest man on the planet for quite some time, and he was always smaller than his opponent. Flyod Mayweather was almost always the smaller guy in the ring. Dont get upset just because you're probably overweight, probably got your butt whooped by some skinny guy. Bigger isnt better.
@Boogieman618
@Boogieman618 Год назад
@@BkBk-gy6vrthat is probably the most brain dead take I’ve ever heard lmao being smaller fucking sucks when it comes to fighting. First off you act like bigger guys don’t have stamina when the big guys that actually train do cardio on a daily basis. Second off, the bigger guy will 99% of the time have more reach. So besides agility and speed the smaller guy is fucked in every department unless he is more skilled.
@drugbustin
@drugbustin Год назад
So you saying weight classes exist to protect the bigger fighter ?...you clearly have never been in a real fight 😂... Mike may have been short but he surely weighed more than most of his opponents, Floyd was also..he was also taller and more lengthy than some of his opponents...I can tell you not really a fan but just a casual based on your lack of knowledge 🤣🤣🤣 WTF this is sht you can literally go and google ffs @@BkBk-gy6vr
@Estradinhas_do_ES
@Estradinhas_do_ES Год назад
Great video as always! Why don't we simply weight fighters the same day as the fight? And change weight limits of each division accordingly? Weight cut is an insane process with no benefit for anyone. And yes, size matters. For strikers, "dynamic reach" is also important (Mc Gregor being a good example).
@Ismail-kv3ex
@Ismail-kv3ex Год назад
I think there are 2 benefits for the production 1 is that the weigh in helps build anticipation and hype for the fight since the fighters are in the same room together and the news sources will publish more and more headlines about the fight, increasing the chance to gain attention 2 is that, like the sanctioned cheating Joe mentioned another time, it’s more exciting if the athletes bulk up the night before Chug water, fill up on pasta, size up as much as you can cause you can’t undo training camp that much and the extra fuel hits hard, pushing performance just a bit more Although I do think we should weigh fighters the day of the match, I see why it’s not implemented
@Estradinhas_do_ES
@Estradinhas_do_ES Год назад
@@Ismail-kv3ex Sure, fully agree!
@bigbadkittenperson9179
@bigbadkittenperson9179 Год назад
@@Ismail-kv3exyeah it’s just that those are terrible reasons 🤦‍♂️
@TheNotoriousLCB
@TheNotoriousLCB Год назад
Charles’ fight with Max was probably the closes anyone’s been to dying in the cage
@gilbertluna6802
@gilbertluna6802 Год назад
Why?
@TheNotoriousLCB
@TheNotoriousLCB Год назад
@@gilbertluna6802 he tore his esophagus
@TheEnderBand
@TheEnderBand Год назад
@@gilbertluna6802 you can easily die from internal hemorrhaging from esophageal tears
@Evan-pt8nr
@Evan-pt8nr Год назад
Rory mcdonald must of been pretty damn close
@ao1461
@ao1461 Год назад
I cringe everytime I think of that fight, fighters need to be paid more
@themeanaverage.1692
@themeanaverage.1692 Год назад
super underrated fighter. possibly the most underrated fighter of all time. 1 loss unanimous. all other fights wins or bloody split decision wars. great commentator also
@bendike955
@bendike955 Год назад
The extent of the difference is what matters. I'm pretty sure a well trained 170er could easily beat up a non trained but strong 205er. However there can be such a difference which you just cannot overcome with skills/experience. I think a good example is the light "sparring" video of Conor vs the Mountain. You can see moments there which gives away that if the Mountain would decide to really beat Conor with bad intent - he would not get a say in that...
@smoothcast6940
@smoothcast6940 Год назад
Dude. A trained 135er could easily beat someone weighing 210 who isn't trained. The difference of size could be bigger but casual fans aren't ready for that conversation yet
@Ta-bd7tx
@Ta-bd7tx Год назад
@@smoothcast6940 nahh mate I disagree, I trained boxing for 2 years but never trained MMA/wrestling and BJJ, did my first MMA class today and we did some wrestling at the end, the guys my size/heavier took me down fairly easily most of the time (I weight 192ibs) but the smaller guys who were way more skilled really couldn’t get me down effectively and even when they did I still ended up in the more dominant position . TL;DR weight definitely matters a lot lol Anything over 40ibs difference and it’s a very slim chance for the smaller fighter. I would say around that anyway
@JiggyJones0
@JiggyJones0 Год назад
​@@smoothcast6940 a 135 lb man isn't going to be able to do shit to a man that can pull a 1000lb vehicle. If he grabs any part of Conor's body it's rip for him.
@lordoffaiyum9727
@lordoffaiyum9727 Год назад
@@smoothcast6940 False. Chances would be slim. 135? Bruh i have trained since i was 5 and am 43. Seen lots of amazing fights. Never ever have i seen a 135 pounder do well vs a guy 210. I seen great judokas struggle with untrained guys when they weigh too much. Not saying impossible but slim chance.
@lordoffaiyum9727
@lordoffaiyum9727 Год назад
@@Ta-bd7tx Facts he is wrong
@mrlee3294
@mrlee3294 Год назад
Size matters only when the natural weight distribution and skill set are both massively apart, however if you’re a pretty big guy though and someone’s bigger it doesn’t matter at that point. A prime Jon Jones so let’s say him back in 2015, he’s 6’4 and he probably walks around at 220. He would easily dismantle a 330 pound behemoth who does strongman or something. However if it’s Demetrius Johnson vs that 330 pound strongman then it comes a big problem.
@akjohnny5997
@akjohnny5997 Год назад
this is true, a trained fighter would destroy 99% of the untrained population
@LYSS89
@LYSS89 Год назад
Yeah but a good big guy beats a good small guy.... Most of the time..... You're comparing one of the best fighters ever to a strongman... Don't be silly.... You have to compare a good small guy with a good big guy.... Jones is a heavyweight but he cuts.... Forget that light heavyweight bs... So many heavyweights walk around with so much fat they they could get down to lhw if they wanted. Jones is a freak, leave him out. The wider the size gap then the lighter guy needs to make up for it in other departments....Speed.. Cardio....Skill etc... Depending on the size disparity, there strength might be very similar but it's the weight behind the strength that helps...Grappling it makes a huge difference and is the bigger guy has great technique when he punches, then he can use his weight behind that punch and that's what counts.
@miesvaillanykyisyytta3252
@miesvaillanykyisyytta3252 Год назад
This statement makes little sense. Size like any attribute always matters. Give a figure skater 20 extra pounds and they are done. Put some fighter in a weight class meant for men 20 pounds heavier and they will have problems. I think you meant to say that massive size differences can sometimes be overcome when the skill sets are incredibly strongly in favor of the smaller person.
@jackjack4412
@jackjack4412 Год назад
Lol it's not a problem. DJ is getting smashed.
@jackjack4412
@jackjack4412 Год назад
​@@akjohnny5997 not true at all. Unless you're in the UFC do NOT fight anyone athletic and 50 pounds more than you. Even if they've never trained to fight.
@andrejones7176
@andrejones7176 Год назад
Size always matter. Height, weight, wingspan… the advantage almost always plays a part in the fights. It’s a reason why Khabib was killing himself to cut to 155, he knew his advantage was being the bigger guy. Even with Volk, he’s not the tallest guy but has one of the longest reaches and used to weigh a brick house. It shows in his fights.
@americansuperdad5769
@americansuperdad5769 Год назад
In my experience, the level of skill is most indicative of the outcome of a fight. However, when the skill level is the same or close, the bigger fighter can use that to their advantage. Training is the key. If you know your opponent and you train harder than they do, it makes a huge difference. I competed in Taekwondo and I witnessed this first hand. This is merely my humble opinion.
@slushyslushslushbruh
@slushyslushslushbruh Год назад
That's true. That said, in a self-defense context, back against the wall, pacifist options no longer available, if a crackhead trying to break in to a UFC fighter's home terrifies the UFC fighter because technically advantages exists, so size definitely matters and sometimes whatever you're intoxicated in does matter way more than skill if, say, guns aren't an option either.
@americansuperdad5769
@americansuperdad5769 Год назад
@slushyslushslushbruh if we're talking about a street fight, I don't care if the dude is 4 foot tall, I'm not fighting fair. If I can get ahold of any object that can be used as a weapon, there's gonna be no mercy.
@mannyvazquez4742
@mannyvazquez4742 Год назад
Skill is always more important than size your are right
@americansuperdad5769
@americansuperdad5769 Год назад
@mannyvazquez4742 Thank you. I feel that the more one trains and the more experience one accumulates will supercede physical disadvantages like size or strength.
@mannyvazquez4742
@mannyvazquez4742 Год назад
@@americansuperdad5769 I'm talking from experience, I've easily beat people twice my size, with speed and timing
@tdrivers1102
@tdrivers1102 Год назад
In striking, size doesn’t really matter that much. It can add a little bit of sting to the punches but you pay for that in cardio. In grappling it makes a world of difference. A heavy guy laying on you is WAY more dangerous than a lighter guy simply because you’re carrying more weight
@roardinoson7
@roardinoson7 Год назад
i agree with you, but then why are there weight classes in boxing?
@kevthegoat8774
@kevthegoat8774 Год назад
A heavyweight will walk through any fighter under 200 pounds as they will have no respect for their strikes.
@seanhwy9761
@seanhwy9761 Год назад
I bet a 10th ranked or even 15th ranked heavy weight would kill anyone 150ld and under. Hell mayweather couldn't do anything against yt fake boxer Logan. The only thing that saved Logan was his huge size advantage. Tyson would have killed him. I think Mayweather pound for pound is a better boxer than Tyson.
@tadehn6852
@tadehn6852 Год назад
What about reach, that’s big.
@josheternal
@josheternal Год назад
Not true. Size still matters a great deal even in striking. Floyd Mayweather is hands down the greatest and most skilled fighter in the history of boxing. And even with all that skill, he'd still get destroyed by any decent heavyweight
@nolans1675
@nolans1675 Год назад
Izzy was 200.5 not 194. Joe’s dropping the ball a bit saying that and saying Masvidal is better than GSP.
@tigresalas3574
@tigresalas3574 Год назад
He's getting old and got too much stuff on his mind
@gigachad6885
@gigachad6885 Год назад
Jew Rogan is paid by the UFC, of course he's gonna push for this recency bias
@j4bee768
@j4bee768 Год назад
Someone exchanged his DMT pipe for a crack pipe..
@OnKingFly
@OnKingFly Год назад
You gotta listen to the podcast my dude. Thats a botched headline, he never said jorge is better the gsp. He said jorge would be a problem for anyone back in that era
@Bigjuicydumbdumb
@Bigjuicydumbdumb Год назад
He's a bad fanboy for bl8ck fighters. It's emberassing .
@mmustap3
@mmustap3 Год назад
I think what gets missed about the long lean body type is that those fighters have larger organs and bones for their body weight, so they have way better stamina and tend to have larger jaws, sharper knuckles, elbows, and knees compared with their opponents.
@peterwolf8395
@peterwolf8395 Год назад
But also less armour around the body far less even
@etriusdanny6618
@etriusdanny6618 Год назад
Great take on it ! smart thinking to observe that
@musashi542
@musashi542 Год назад
this is one of the dumbest things i read in a while
@KKSuited
@KKSuited Год назад
It's like this. Clone Mighty Mouse, but make him 6'6 and 285 lbs. Have that Mighty Mouse fight regular sized Mighty Mouse. Who wins? Becomes common sense at that point.
@letmegetuhhh3959
@letmegetuhhh3959 Год назад
It don’t even gotta be that large a weight change. Throw 15 pounds and 2 inches on Mighty Mouse and he beats the shit out of his current self.
@Tigo625
@Tigo625 Год назад
@@letmegetuhhh3959 Maybe he loses his speed and abilities to do what he can do when lighter. You never know.
@jackjack4412
@jackjack4412 Год назад
Any NFL lineman or linebacker would smash mighty mouse. It's that simple.
@Tigo625
@Tigo625 Год назад
@@jackjack4412 Completely delusional but go off.
@TheRealJG0
@TheRealJG0 Год назад
​@jackjack4412 lmao delusional, any NFL lineman most likely gets leg locked and his acl ripped off, dj wouldn't strike or wrestle with a linebacker, ufc heavyweight is one thing but size isn't the end all be all 🤣🤡
@sgdl7061
@sgdl7061 Год назад
Size matters in regards to stamina and speed as well. There are always trade offs.
@reiniervanramshorst1031
@reiniervanramshorst1031 Год назад
The funniest people say weight doesn't matter in Jiu-Jitsu. But even small local tournaments have like ten weight classes and if you can cut 10% without losing much strength you're going to do Waay better 😂
@letmegetuhhh3959
@letmegetuhhh3959 Год назад
People who say weight doesn’t matter in jiu jitsu don’t do jiu jitsu cause at the top of the sport they’re built like gears of war characters lmao
@Georgesspierre
@Georgesspierre Год назад
I feel it's kind of unfair when i see these two giants Izzy and Alex fighting at middleweight. What if everybody fought at their true natural weight, without cutting water? That would be interesting.
@0Caracalla
@0Caracalla Год назад
I'd take a short light weight fighter over some big guy who's never trained. It's like putting in a tiger against a cow.
@trentonruss5020
@trentonruss5020 Год назад
2 equally trained fighters would each have an advantage over the other guy. Smaller guy will probably be faster, the bigger guy will probably be stronger. But it comes down to brain power, and being able to consciously evaluate your opponent during the fight
@THISISLolesh
@THISISLolesh Год назад
At a certain point, brain power doesn’t matter. Someone can just be too tall & too heavy for someone else no matter the skillset.
@jackjack4412
@jackjack4412 Год назад
​@@THISISLolesh yup.
@johnconor5485
@johnconor5485 Год назад
@@THISISLolesh no skills it doesn't matter how big you are NFL guys with no fighting skills will get killed by local MMA fighters average size 99 out of 100 times
@thedevilsadvocate3710
@thedevilsadvocate3710 Год назад
Anyone who says the shorter fighter is faster than the bigger fighter has never fought before.
@trentonruss5020
@trentonruss5020 Год назад
@@thedevilsadvocate3710 well it’s just an example, most of the time the shorter guy is lighter, of course at the same weight as someone who is taller the short one will be slower
@nicowins
@nicowins Год назад
Its always small guys (-200 pound guys) who say size dont matter 😂
@realtruth1448
@realtruth1448 Год назад
I’d say 180 is pretty big, especially if the guys is shredded
@nicowins
@nicowins Год назад
@@realtruth1448its good But not impressive
@SBAssociation
@SBAssociation Год назад
As a flyweight I know how to fight man, But it would be so hard even against a Welterweight who doesn’t know how to fight their size and length alone, Again a 145-160 would be easy without skill. With? Gonna be a harddd fight (for me) 😊
@varsame
@varsame Год назад
The small fighter has great personality 🥹
@naspointO
@naspointO Год назад
too many factors to consider. size, skill, strength, cardio, speed, fight IQ, timing, mental toughness, agility, flexibility, recovery ability, fight style, ruleset, luck..... when you start mixing and matching.... you can always find a way to beat the bigger or smaller opponent.
@fp8901
@fp8901 Год назад
Joe was actually right Roy Jones weighed 199 pounds the day of the fight. At the weigh-in a few days before he was 193 (really 189-190. He wore a bunch of clothes).
@DicholasNiaz
@DicholasNiaz Год назад
Size for sure matters when it comes to combat sports, I am 110 and my training patner is 160... Sparring hurts a lot😂
@alexong2542
@alexong2542 Год назад
Size matters, but only up until a certain degree. For instance, if you picked a welterweight like Manny Pacquiao up against a heavyweight like Mike Tyson, Tyson will MURDER Pacquiao in seconds. The mass difference is too huge. However, if both of them are heavyweights, being taller and have a longer reach do give you an advantage, but it isn't the be all and end all factor. Take Deontay Wilder and put him up against Mike Tyson in the 80s. I guarantee you, Tyson would eat Wilder up for breakfast in the first round. PS: you'll notice that when I meant size, I meant the difference in mass, not the height. If you still don't understand by now, let me put this simply, "When two men of equal skill come together, the bigger one would win. However , if two men of equal size come together, the one who's more skilled would win. If both men are of equal size and equal skill, then it depends on who has more heart to win"
@joshdaley3061
@joshdaley3061 Год назад
Lmao Connor gets a pass for fighting most of his career guys 4" smaller and 30 pounds lighter, Now Joe takes every chance to bring up Alex's size
@amaresh1797
@amaresh1797 Год назад
30 pounds smaller really?
@eddielopez503
@eddielopez503 Год назад
Dumbest comment ever 😂 you must be new to MMA welcome bud lol
@thesportsguy126
@thesportsguy126 Год назад
He fought siver, poirier and max who all fought at 155. Mendes who was a jacked 145. Aldo who was the 145 goat.
@rally_chronicles
@rally_chronicles Год назад
Yup. Connor sucks against ppl in his non IV weight class
@seanhwy9761
@seanhwy9761 Год назад
@@amaresh1797 it's an exaggeration to make a point. but yeah Connor for the most part was bigger, taller than his opponents on fight night. I wish they would change the weight rules. Like they have to make their weight for seven days in row before the fight and the get weighed right before they step in the ring. That's their real weight. Some guys gain 20 to 30 lbs after weigh ins.
@terrybates9874
@terrybates9874 Год назад
Joe literally has 6 talking points and just rotates them depending on who he’s speaking to
@Trmvptv
@Trmvptv Год назад
What are they?
@terrybates9874
@terrybates9874 Год назад
@@Trmvptv that calf kicks have “changed the game”, that weight cutting should be abolished, that they shouldn’t use gloves, Trevor whitman has gloves that stop eye pokes, and anything to do with bears
@michaelhauser6440
@michaelhauser6440 Год назад
Sounds like everybody that's ever been alive. You're different? Lol Maybe you should have your own show since you're such a brilliant conversationalist
@terrybates9874
@terrybates9874 Год назад
@@michaelhauser6440 your defo part of the LGBTQ+ community
@Personalapocalypse77.
@Personalapocalypse77. Год назад
You sit comfortably behind your screen and safely judge, meanwhile Joe has built an empire and carries the entire Austin comedy scene on his back, not to mention how instrumental he was to the success of the UFC.
@t0p-D
@t0p-D Год назад
Izzy weighed like 217 when he stepped in the octagon against Yan at LHW
@theunbeatable6598
@theunbeatable6598 Год назад
I thought he was 194 lbs
@filipferencak2717
@filipferencak2717 Год назад
​@F.O.C.K. He was 200.5 at the weigh ins, so probably around 206-210 in the fight, since he did look like he was cutting weight. Doubt he was 217 though, but I guess anything is possible
@Arnachistarchitect
@Arnachistarchitect Месяц назад
​@@filipferencak2717 he was 217 bro
@shaneallen1192
@shaneallen1192 Год назад
Size does matter. A larger stronger opponent can make mistakes that the smaller man can not make. Size and strength forgives a lot of sins. It is not everything but to say that it does not matter is disingenuous.
@KobeManuPetro
@KobeManuPetro Год назад
The only fight where Khabib look beatable was against a guy that was bigger than him. Khabib, Usman, even Jones are one of the greats because they are also the biggest guys in the division
@dashawnfelton4886
@dashawnfelton4886 Год назад
jones wasn’t the biggest neither was khabib, gustafsson was the same size as jones and dustin was bigger than khabib, usman was the biggest for his weight class other than when woodley still fought
@o-wolf
@o-wolf Год назад
​@@dashawnfelton4886Gustaf was actually bigger if I'm not mistaken, the heavyweight fight bones took was also bigger/heavier naturally too
@KobeManuPetro
@KobeManuPetro Год назад
@@dashawnfelton4886 dustin literally came from FW, Khabib fought Gleison Tibau who was the only bigger guy in his career and almost lost. Also, Jones almost lost to prime Gus as well, because of the fact Gus could match his size
@matthewpaul8755
@matthewpaul8755 Год назад
⁠@@o-wolfyou’re definitely mistaken… Jon is and was so much more muscular and bigger in size than gus. Gus matches his reach and what not though. And John is huge now just as big as the other heavy weights.
@dashawnfelton4886
@dashawnfelton4886 Год назад
@@KobeManuPetro dustin is def bigger jus look at the size between the two
@jaydoggy456
@jaydoggy456 Год назад
Anybody who says "size doesn't matter" doesn't know what they are talking about. Size matters a lot!!! I would say size isn't everything but to say size doesn't matter is insane.
@marcosmosquea3457
@marcosmosquea3457 Год назад
You can look into this, izzy on fight day was not 194 he had to cut to get there, sure he’s not Alex or Jan’s size but he’s technically a LHW
@ryanmcclintock4798
@ryanmcclintock4798 Год назад
No isn’t wasn’t joe. He weighed 201 on weigh in day.
@treesyeaaa8345
@treesyeaaa8345 Год назад
Yea idk why he’s lying
@raw_silkynyc3781
@raw_silkynyc3781 Год назад
@@treesyeaaa8345 ya both sound stupid
@Kyle-dl1ig
@Kyle-dl1ig Год назад
@@treesyeaaa8345 izzys got a certain skin color joe likes
@gigachad6885
@gigachad6885 Год назад
​@@Kyle-dl1igJew Rogan
@gibgibbo5738
@gibgibbo5738 Год назад
@@Kyle-dl1ig lol you just hurt cos black athletes are better jones is the goat and joe acknowledges them 😂😂
@thedisconnect5769
@thedisconnect5769 Год назад
Then again ufc handicaps smaller guys by limiting certain kicks. Soccer kicks could be utilized as a fantastic equalizer against someone larger that would be harder for a bigger guy to adequately pull off
@AbcAbc-sp1od
@AbcAbc-sp1od Год назад
What's a soccer kick?
@sirtoneyd3138
@sirtoneyd3138 Год назад
Yes,size matters, simple. If little guy is skilled & big guy is not then little guy can win. If both guy's have equal skill but one is 100 lbs heavier & stronger of course he has a huge advantage and wins 8 out of 10 times. It's the reason sports have weight classes, in the interest of fairness.
@johnhernandez284
@johnhernandez284 Год назад
Size matters but it doesn't mean strength. And if you have a small fighter who knows how to fight big people then he's got the advantage
@tonysoprano3278
@tonysoprano3278 Год назад
Weight cuts are a huge thing and always have been. DC used to cut tons to make LH. Usman used to cut over 50lbs to make Welterweight. Paulo Costa cuts huge amount to make middleweight. Most fighters in the UFC do this.
@kevthegoat8774
@kevthegoat8774 Год назад
If Usman is cutting 50 pounds then that's weak AF
@kevthegoat8774
@kevthegoat8774 Год назад
@F.O.C.K. If Costa has a super small reach that's his problem, cutting that much weight is just weak, he walks around at the same weight Stipe Miocic fought his last few fights at. He clearly needs to sort his diet out as at the end of the day all this means is if Costa actually fought trained men his size then he's really not that good.
@MrDayday4641
@MrDayday4641 Год назад
With two untrained fighters, it's a huge deal! With two trained fighters, it's a huge deal! If the smaller guy is highly trained, and the big guy isn't, not so much!
@Arnachistarchitect
@Arnachistarchitect Месяц назад
Nope, in school I found it easier to beat up bigger guys, we were all untrained
@drewmeyer9679
@drewmeyer9679 Год назад
Not necessarily. There’s a reason weight classes exist in COMBAT SPORTS. However a trained fighter will beat a guy in a street fight 9/10x. 180-200lbs is not that far in a street fight however 180-200 in a pro combat sport is a lot.
@DirtyTalkTv
@DirtyTalkTv Год назад
Here answers the question, how many giys move upweights and win titles fighting bigger guys, hundreds. Evrytime sombody goes down a weight gets destroyed
@MrAmaz1ng000
@MrAmaz1ng000 Год назад
Well, in most sports the longer, taller, bigger athlete wins. There’s advantages of being big that skill could never teach.
@joelbyrnes9710
@joelbyrnes9710 Год назад
I think language needs to be cleared up on whats being talked about here. Size doesnt matter, but weight does. Its simple physics. If a lught and heavy fighter throw a punch at the same speed, with the same technique, the heavier fighter is gonna generate more force. Mike Tyson was fairly small compared to other heavyweight fighters during his time, that didnt matter. And Gracie vs Shamrock always ended the same way too. Technique, weight and conditioning matter way more than simple "weight" A guy whobis 190 and muscular, and another guy who is 190 and chunky looking arent going to perform the same.
@Mickyboi1
@Mickyboi1 8 месяцев назад
Weight and skill are what matters most in a fight, if you’re one of guys that think the can fight because they are 6’5 you’re in for a shock one day when you wake up up face down in the concrete - probably at the hands of a guy that’s 5’5 and 120lbs wet
@okay1775
@okay1775 5 месяцев назад
120kg is a lot especially for a 5'5 guy. Can't imagine how that person would look
@pootytang2872
@pootytang2872 Месяц назад
120 kg at 5'5" a man would be wider than he is tall.
@Mickyboi1
@Mickyboi1 Месяц назад
@@pootytang2872 meant lbs🤣
@trilligami
@trilligami 6 месяцев назад
Size definitely matters and skill is also a factor, it depends on who’s better at fighting the opposite fighter. Some big guys are almost just as fast as smaller guys which is really hard to deal with. But some big guys just swinging wide and are really slow because they ONLY fight other big guys- those big guys are generally pretty to easy to fight if you’re cautious.
@ekayn1606
@ekayn1606 Год назад
Yes, it does. But when it comes to street fights, if the smaller fighter has skills and the large guy doesn't they'll be some crazy upsets. I'm 5'10 155 pounds and beat the fuck out of this 6'4 220+ pound fat ass. (The story if you're interested) He was trying to bully a 15 year old boy, so I called him out. He started talking shit trying to punk me, so I roasted him so badly that his girlfriend laughed! Big Bro was so mad he took his shirt off and started pulling up his pants. He throws a wild left hook, I sidestep and throw a straight against his teeth (scraping my fingers). He stumbled back a little and glared at me with hate in his eyes. He charged again, but this time with a flurry of punches like he just watched an anime. He landed a few good shots to my ribs at first, but i discovered his range. I used footwork to stay out of his range and sniped with body shots every time he over extended until i landed a CLEAN uppercut that knocked the wind out of him.
@brendanbonus3211
@brendanbonus3211 Год назад
Joes been sounding like a broken record when he talks about mma
@aaaz90ful
@aaaz90ful Год назад
Maybe cause you don’t understand what your hearing
@noicemate9111
@noicemate9111 Год назад
@@aaaz90fulnope it’s because he truly has nothing interesting to add anymore. He sounds like my friends at the lunch table 2 years ago in high school the way he talks about it these days. Hopefully he will give up the commentating spot soon because it’s becoming filler words at this point
@nev12345678910
@nev12345678910 Год назад
@@aaaz90ful joe also has some ridiculous fucking opinions about mma lmao. Joes ideal fight is bareknuckle on a basketball court
@smackdoe3626
@smackdoe3626 Год назад
Izzy weighed in at 204.5 in his fight against Jan. Same point still stands, he didn't gain any size
@carloslemusjr
@carloslemusjr Год назад
actually when the fight weights came out Izzy actually weighed like 215
@TabooRevolution13
@TabooRevolution13 Год назад
Ill fight Izzy!
@DanMehmet-yy1ly
@DanMehmet-yy1ly Год назад
@@carloslemusjryou got a link to that ?
@DanMehmet-yy1ly
@DanMehmet-yy1ly Год назад
@@carloslemusjrhe weighed in at 200 lbs with clothes on
@Haunter-006
@Haunter-006 Год назад
I was gonna keep watching but then I read the second sentence of the title and got disinterested
@jerryesque3747
@jerryesque3747 Год назад
It's simple, you fight the big man game you'll lose to a big guy. If you fight the small man game you'll lose to a small guy. There is a reason why lions use stealth to catch there prey instead of using speed and endurance.
@RainbowBandana
@RainbowBandana Год назад
But gorillas coming straight for you fuck all that playing around stuff I'm ripping your arms off
@ibziibz1886
@ibziibz1886 Год назад
YOO I'm a dirty ass hole, I clicked because I thought from the title he was talking about size in terms of genitals lmao 😂
@pineapple8543
@pineapple8543 Год назад
Strange considering it clearly shows it’s in regards to fighting
@rajendranadarajan8931
@rajendranadarajan8931 Год назад
The biggest misconception about weight cutting is it will give you an edge in terms of size. Sure, you're bigger than your opponent by 25 pounds. You've also severely dehydrated your body and 24 hours is not enough to recover from that. Your strength is compromised. Your cardio is compromised. And the biggest one of all, when your brain is severely dehydrated, you get knocked the fuck out a lot easier than usual.
@yd-plowk
@yd-plowk Год назад
Here for the professional fight comments
@saulkorzenecki
@saulkorzenecki Год назад
They speak of Izzy being at a disadvantage as if he hasn't enjoyed the Jon Jones effect of having nearly a foot in reach advantage over almost every opponent. And before people bring up Stefan Struve, he's the exception: the rule is that a reach that big is the equivalent of having like an extra whole second of reaction time, and for a striker? It's an ungodly advantage. And like Jones, Izzy struggles when he doesn't have it, end of
@obliqueapplications8881
@obliqueapplications8881 Год назад
When they said that Jon Jones is in the conversation about who the goat is, Firas Zahabi felt a disturbance in the Force.
@johmale1
@johmale1 Год назад
big or small they all crumbled under my heavy judo strikes/kicks+ i had stellar karate ground game.
@DirtyTalkTv
@DirtyTalkTv Год назад
Never ask a 5ft 5 guy with a size completion, he will defo say yes
@Digitaljoyride
@Digitaljoyride Год назад
I’m 155lbs and roll with people 180lbs no problem.
@mockdr
@mockdr Год назад
Same
@BrandonGiordano
@BrandonGiordano Год назад
Size matters when all things are equal. Reach, height, strength, etc. However skill is the great equalizer. That's why Volk is so impressive. Almost always outsized but skillwise is simply better.
@DadpoolCosplay
@DadpoolCosplay Год назад
It's pretty simple who would win, 200 pound Brock Lesnar or 260 pound Brock Lesnar?
@KM-iv9xy
@KM-iv9xy Год назад
Size matters, but level of training is more important
@scotiacrumpler2824
@scotiacrumpler2824 Год назад
Size matters so much in combat sports that they have to make weight divisions. If it didn’t matter guys wouldn’t nearly starve themselves to death to “make weight”.
@Bobbyonehitwonder
@Bobbyonehitwonder Год назад
Weight is not size.
@tbunny6305
@tbunny6305 Год назад
Bigger guys generally stronger and harder hitting but no stamina ,speed or coordination with basic tactics. Smaller guys literally better at everything . Tell Jack Dempsey size mattered or Mike Tyson or Fedor Emelianenko . Heavyweights have huge weight gaps between competitors And many smaller heavyweights beat much larger heavyweights . Nokweed Davy 74 kg fought Jerome Le Banner 107 kg and it went to decision , Le banner won but it should have been a draw. It makes no sense that heavyweights can be 10-40 lbs weight difference but every other weight class has strict limits.
@zackattack91000
@zackattack91000 Год назад
Size matters and then it doesn’t. Every size has advantages and disadvantages. Standing and on the ground. In close range and in long range. What truly matters is your knowledge/experience in combat. The person that’s more knowledgeable/experienced will win 9/10
@Flips44
@Flips44 Год назад
I believe you want to be well balanced. If ur too big you can only throw so many of those before you get tired or someone has more speed then you. But you don’t want to be this weak fighter with no power either. But above all it’s skill
@NomadicBloke1
@NomadicBloke1 Год назад
Varelans vs. Vovchanchyn . Size and brute power against agility, technique, precision, timing, and power.
@kevthegoat8774
@kevthegoat8774 Год назад
Varelans wasn't a very skilled fighter, Igor was special though
@NomadicBloke1
@NomadicBloke1 Год назад
@@kevthegoat8774 what did I say? size and brute power, read that again karen
@flippaRuATX
@flippaRuATX Год назад
No matter how big you are one day you will face an obstacle much bigger than you and if you are convinced size matters then you already lost that battle
@RainbowBandana
@RainbowBandana Год назад
So according to your logic the smaller guy has a looooooong battle uphill then😅
@flippaRuATX
@flippaRuATX Год назад
@@RainbowBandana I think in comparison to a hill everyone is small
@Poppyrae
@Poppyrae Год назад
Yeah tearing in an esophagus was probably more dirt cutting getting worse gerd probably getting ulcers that tore
@antondredoublee7727
@antondredoublee7727 Год назад
I wouldn't exactly call felder short and stumpy... he's actually listed taller than Oliviera. Although his reach is several inches shorter. But still not short by any means, Oliviera just has a super long wingspan
@bunnyrabbitplays8979
@bunnyrabbitplays8979 Год назад
1000 years from now someone will still ask this question.
@mattcat83
@mattcat83 Год назад
UFC loves severe weight cuts because it makes the fighters more fragile and liable to getting knocked out. It's horrible.
@chunkymokey1
@chunkymokey1 Год назад
i saw a dude. maybe 5 foot at most. choke out a dude who was atleast 6"4 and weighing 110+ kg. Both dudes are mma fighters. the skills paid the bills for that little guy
@KKSuited
@KKSuited Год назад
Yeah but take that 5 foot dude, make him 6'7 and 285 and have him fight his 5 foot tall self. Who wins?
@chunkymokey1
@chunkymokey1 Год назад
@@KKSuited yeh the little guy just had better skills. My example shows that skills more advanced would take out a truck. So really being big won't make up for lack of skill. If both are equal skill ye the bigger guy wins. Just shows you that BJJ does help lil dude win
@xv4373
@xv4373 Год назад
Exceptions do not make the rule
@whocares9198
@whocares9198 Год назад
​@@KKSuited how many 6 foot 7 guys do you know? Lol or even someone that 5 foot tall 😂😂😂 I've probably only seen a few over 6 foot 7 unless they're playing basketball 😂 and maybe even less a person who is 5 foot tall without a genetic disorder😂
@nkatekomhlari
@nkatekomhlari Год назад
Skill > Size Fedor beat niggas who were more hunk than him.
@HJRC_
@HJRC_ Год назад
It's the performance that matters
@TheJuanvegas
@TheJuanvegas Год назад
If size doesn't matter, take away the weight classes. It's not even a debate. That, or ask someone's wife
@SageSea1
@SageSea1 4 месяца назад
Weight classes only exist to separate freak athletes from the rest. That is the fact. Roided, athletic monsters like mark Coleman (who weren’t even the heaviest competitors) were the literal reason weight classes were brought to the ufc. They were bigger and also stronger, faster, meaner. Before wrestling freaks took over, you can actually watch the earlier ufc fights and see that the larger guy was actually losing 50% of the time at the least. Why? Because they weren’t very good athletes. In fact the very first ufc fight had like a 100+ weight difference and the massive guy stumbled around before getting his teeth kicked in. A few years later a literal David vs Goliath tournament and the David (don Frye) won. Gary goodridge wasn’t a pushover as a Goliath either, he could move for a big man.
@joeblough261
@joeblough261 Месяц назад
There are weight classes for a reason... because size matters. Sometimes skills can overcome, and ar heavyweight, guys like Holyfield and Usyk and Tyson sometimes had rhe advantage due to speed, but its dangerous to get hit by a guy who outweighs you by 50lbs..
@KevinSmith-xt8xr
@KevinSmith-xt8xr Год назад
No different from racing V8 vs 4cyl Stock for Stock the v8 will win But as everyone said skill comes in Then in terms of weightclass Weight will determine the factor of winning.
@marc2638
@marc2638 Год назад
Size does play a part but not so much as skill. You can't do shit without skill weather big or small. I'm 180lbs I look like I weigh 150lbs, I'm super lean someone who's 180lbs and wants to tango I say let's roll, my skill set gives me the confidence to push forward. If I happen to lose, eh whatever recover learn apply practice. My vote is on skill more so than size.
@courtneygillespie1187
@courtneygillespie1187 Год назад
I agree with Floyd..... size doesn't win fights..... fighting wins fights.... McGregor was bigger..... stronger faster younger but Floyd has the formula.
@ericrollings
@ericrollings Год назад
If technically both fighters are similar, size matters.
@samoriab5999
@samoriab5999 Год назад
Look there are literally hundreds of UFC fight videos where the smaller guy completely destroys the bigger guy..look at Henry cejudo!! The guys a midget..but...he is a world champion in two wieght classes and there are videos of him destroying bigger guys...Look at Daniel Cormier who is a small heavy weight...watch some of his reels and you'll see him slaying monsters...bottom line IF YOUR A GREAT FIGHTER AND YOUR PHYSICALLY STRONG....SIZE DOES NOT MATTER.
@Bobbyonehitwonder
@Bobbyonehitwonder Год назад
I litterly just wrote like 5 comments saying this your the first person to understand weight and height don’t mean strength
@rong.2494
@rong.2494 Год назад
You've got Mike Tyson and Cain Velasquez both giant killers because they were more skilled than their bigger opponents then you have Jon Jones who was both bigger and better than his shorter opponents howerver he did have some trouble with lesser fighters his size. Zabit and Connor were weight bullies and had great success. I would have loved to see a full match between Aldo and Connor at 145. I think it would have been an all time classic.
@Rejuvinated
@Rejuvinated Год назад
What? They already fought at 145 and Conor slept him in like 10 seconds you must of forget brother😂
@TitoJonJon
@TitoJonJon Год назад
An 84 kg 5'7 chubby guy like me will get knocked out on seconds by gervonta davis. But if our skill is equal or atleast at par, he will never win against me
@Bobbyonehitwonder
@Bobbyonehitwonder Год назад
But your skill is not there
@gregfalco4528
@gregfalco4528 Год назад
People love to make up bullsh*t about how much fighters cut for fights. Pereira is the same height as Jon Jones. I remember at his peak at 205, Jones said he was 218 before his cut to 205. Pereira is definitely not as big as Jones was in those days. Pereira weighs 210 at MOST for his fights at middleweight.
@jacobboyd6821
@jacobboyd6821 Год назад
Two people that are not experienced fighters would you say that the advantage would go to the bigger stronger person or to the smaller quicker person?
@realtruth1448
@realtruth1448 Год назад
Size matters when skill is involved, if a person is 6’1 210 pounds and trains muay thai for 3 years vs a person who’s 5’8 160 pounds and also trained muay thai for 3 years, of course the bigger guy has the advantage Now let’s say the bigger guy has never trained a martial arts period, vs the smaller guy who still trained, yes the smaller guy will win because fighting is literally skill x athleticism If your skill is 25 and your athleticism is a 10, well now you’re 250 If your skill is a 5 and your athleticism is a 20 well now you’re 100, that’s how fighting works, if you’re training to compete then size plays a big big factor, if you’re training for self defense, you’ll be capable of beating the breaks off anyone who doesn’t train
@Pettski95
@Pettski95 Год назад
People are still bad after 3 years of training its completely induvidual
@realtruth1448
@realtruth1448 Год назад
@@Pettski95 if you’re still bad at training martial arts after 3 years just give up
@Pettski95
@Pettski95 Год назад
Most people are way worse than they think after 3 years. Also i have been hit harder by 160lbs than some HWs.. The difference is more obvious in professional circumstances@@realtruth1448
@MrZola1234
@MrZola1234 Год назад
Height and length is extremely valuable in fighting.
@TheSwordfish009
@TheSwordfish009 Год назад
we should have open weight division and see what happens. I'm curious if smaller fighters would adapt to fighting large opponents as the years ago by. Legendary Muay Thai fighter Saenchan destroyed fighters 20-40lbs heavier than him.
@jasonhamilton6098
@jasonhamilton6098 Год назад
If skill sets are equal, size is a HUGE factor
@mikeconway5040
@mikeconway5040 6 месяцев назад
Yeah. It does.
@darbyheavey406
@darbyheavey406 Год назад
Billy Cohn had Joe Louis on the ropes in their bout in an epic 1941 fight. Louis did KO Cohn when it became a slugfest.
@TheCaliRhino
@TheCaliRhino Год назад
...After he beat the shit out of Gaethje... Come on man, Gaethje almost KO'd Charlie Olives! That was a fight, not an ass kicking.
@mannynuccio109
@mannynuccio109 Год назад
Yes.
@williambreeze2659
@williambreeze2659 Год назад
Felder is a good guest!
@ccink3931
@ccink3931 Год назад
Let's be honest... Aldo was having a tough time making 145lbs BEFORE usada came in... Now post usada he's smaller... "Randomly" 😂
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