Does The Conqueror Mk 2 Suffer From Bad Ammo? 

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Watching spookston for a long time and ngl most of the time is just skill issue cause he aim it like APHE

Good.

Most of the BS you are seeing is through server desync which is unfortunate but unavoidable, The conqueror has better damage with the APDS due to the weight of the penetrator than most other APDS (APDS damage is heavily effected by this). The really unfortunate thing with APDS is that the shit simulator doesn't show shell shattering (which is the worst part).

I really like it, hits quite hard if you are used to the quirks APDS has.

And in a full upriver everything pens you

Thanks, I really appreciate your feedback, If you were to ask me I believe the learning curve starts with just how powerful APHE is, you don't learn proper shot placement when you use them (although Brits don't get much APHE to begin with).

Starting with britain taught me the importance of aiming. Hitting the ammo or breech is crucial to your success if you cant frontally pen their center mass (which you often can with the conqueror)

If it's ever inconsistent it's because you either don't have premium or because you have a booster (most of the time)

Lol Booster means guaranteed ghost shells )))

Did you watch the video?

@@avidacorounia1696 yes

@@berserkermaniac8697 its not going to shell shatter you don't hit spaced armor and know where to shoot it depends on the apds to but some apds are very good

As i said Gaijin Broke APDS

@@berserkermaniac8697 i remember a time where apds used to be very hard to use and you could not explode ammo that eassilly like now so its kind of the opposite

Yeah to be fair that M48 probably would have died even with full crew though, The leopard probably wouldn't be able to fire back if it didn't kill him though.

Yea but… conqueror looks cool

@@verstappen9937 100%, the Conqueror with the add on spaced armor looks like it's wearing platemail. It's my favourite tank in the game aesthetically speaking.

I prefer the conqueror over the caernarvon specifically because the armor saved my ass quite a number of times.

@@r1zmy the turret armor is definitely better, absolutely. I think for my play style it just doesn't matter as much.

The Conq is definitely a great tank for 7.7 BR. Honestly 7.7 Britain is just really good.

yh, i believed the Conq had the most powerful gun in Europe and only was surpassed by the US m103 in terms of kinetic power

it can go through king tiger ufp all british APDS can except the one on comet and challenger

In my opinion the brit 7.7 lineup is probably the best lineup that nation has, you get the centurion Mk.3 you get the Caernarven, and the Conqueror. What's more is that you can even get a premium centurion in that lineup as well. It's a really good lineup for learning how to play higher rank MBT's.

It's not there until it happens unfortunately and APDS are the only projectiles effected by it, which is probably the reason people get so frustrated.

​@@SeanFickenI think non capped AP can also shell shatter.

Interesting, I haven't seen that in the damage feed before that I can recall, I'll check that out later.

Thank you for the feedback this is probably the most well thought out response I have seen. That is definitely an issue slow reload tanks have, the next update will give vehicles more modules to damage, so maybe that will help with the reload issue, as repairs take longer than crew swapping.

I'm using it for the event grind, it's great

Definitely a learning curve due to the shattering, the MBT-70 was designed against APDS, but by the time it would have been fielded it's armor was already too weak against soviet projectiles.

This is just not true at all. I have no trouble killing king Tigers, panthers and IS tanks with the M41 (Mind that the M41 only has a 76mm) you only have to aim unlike APHE.

@@aseortoalgoritmo7002 the M41A1 uses second gen APDS which is for better than first gen. Secondly My whole point, as I stated several times, is that the APDS of the Conq is underperforming even when compared to first gen APDS. So yoir whole point is mute

@@1996Horst i tried various caliber of APDS of first and second Gen and didn't have trouble with any one of them so your is just a skill issue like spookston

@@aseortoalgoritmo7002 Hes saying that other APDS is fine its just that conq's one seems to be particularly bad for some reason. Please read what he's saying lmao

@@aseortoalgoritmo7002 yea sure mate. The problems are known and have been proven both ingame and via data mines. Your personal opinion is of absolutely no relevance in this case Everything I stated is a prooven fact with data to back it up. Yours is an unproven opinion at best and cope at worst

Well, there was a Mk1 IRL, but not in game, But there really isn't a thing called a super conqueror, the add on armor in game was an experimental set meant for testing HESH missiles IIRC.

if A is good and B is bad, nerfing A to be as bad as B will make the game unpleasant, buffing B to be as good as A would make the game fair and pleasant, i think apcr, ap and apds should have more spall

@@notnurfcreanga well i kind of like where apds is, but i dont like how easy aphe is, as to me it is point and click.

Because the Caernarvon used to be the best British vehicle

Hi, Thank you for your feedback. I have noticed that some really skilled players just make commentary over the gameplay without saying why they are doing what they are doing, so I decided I would explain what I am doing.

@@SeanFicken truly the doing of all doing. I particularly liked it when you said "it's doing time" and did all over the place

It's a holdover from tanks beta where they were more loose with realism. People are used to it now, so making it more realistic would change ww2 vehicles a lot and disrupt experienced players. That's why they have chosen to have a vote for it as per the last road map.

I do quite like it, especially after playing it recently to test the damage it does, definitely a solid sniper tank.

It can take a few hits too

Hi, thanks for your feedback. In regards to the apds on the conqueror vs the M103 solid shot, the conq apds didn't do substantially less than the m103 against the turret of the T-54 (turret ting damage, 2 crew taken out) nor was the side shot on the T-54. The shot on the is-3 that I made has the same effect on the tank as well, damaging the ammo specifically. Due to the mass on the conqueror's apds, it has the highest damage for apds in the game and is the vehicle in the subject of this video. Shell shatter is a real problem for gen 1 and 2 apds in real life, and it's not fully accurate in terms of modeling, though. You should learn the armor layouts of the tanks you face, especially if you want to play higher tiers, it's one of the big things for improving your gameplay. Gaijin's latest roadmap includes a vote to make aphe realistic this year. The map has nothing to do with the damage of the shell. You even saw that the IS-4 took 2 shots to kill. Lastly, while the apds has its issues it will penetrate and do damage when ap and aphe won't, like the shot I made on the IS-4.

wrong...the hull armour if positioned properly is impenetrable to even some missiles and heat. turret armour ive never heard a more incorrect statement before cuz ive never been penned on the turret cheeks by anything in an up-br or my br, the sides are weaker yes but still stop plenty of tanks from killing you and the back is bad. the hatches being thin dont matter cuz 90% of HE slingers dont know how to aim so they just shoot your front plate or turret and do nothing. mantlet is also kinda bad but you can still get lucky on it tho. gunners optic nobody shoots that cuz they always panic when seeing a conq looking at them. turret roof one again everyone panics and just fires without aiming. and cupola isnt an issue if you just do what i done and paint it a dark colour or put a bush there. i found the zoom dont really matter too much in my experience but its personal preference with that. accuracy is bad when you dont have adjustment of fire which im guessing you didnt cuz you got fed up. first gen apds isnt bad as the video shows you just have to not be stupid and actually aim which one again most people cant do. reload isnt an issue if you play it how its was suppost to be used (sniper) however if you know what your doing then its not an issue when in cqc. ready rack i personally dont take any notice of it but i guess thats personal preference cuz nobody i know has said its an issue. and gun depression isnt bad i find it to be really good especially with the stabiliser so you can just drive over a hill, fire and then retreat without needing to stop for your gun to balance. i can see what your saying with some of these points but most of them can be resolved by just learning the tank instead of first getting it and having aim like a WOT player.

I'm 200RP/1 modifications away from spading the Conqueror. Over 120 battles with it. 60% win rate. 1.3 KDA 1. False. Its hull armor is very good actualy. Can survive all the Soviet APHE straight on. LFP is shit, but all Brit tanks have shit LFP so it's kinda a moot point. Hell even the Challenger 3 can be killed by a Sherman short 75mm APHE if shot close enough on the LFP. There are no turret ring weakspot. The turret ring has armor values going from 300-380mm. It can even survive 90mm cheatfs. 2. Loads of bullshit. a, The hatches while being 16mm cast, is a tiny ass weak spot. In real battles no one will have time to aim for that. 100mm HE won't do jack shit. It has tiny amount of TNT and no self-respecting Soviet Tankers will bring out the 100mm HE to shoot the bean-sized "weak spots" you've stated. If you got bonked by 152mm HE then it's just another fucking Tuesday ain't it? 152mm HE kills EVERYTHING. b, I dare you to take any APHE and try to pen that mantlet. It's a volumetric blackhole just like the Tiger 1 mantlet. I've never been killed facing soviet 100mm, 122mm and 152mm APHE through the mantlet in over 120 battles. c, Again, a bean-sized "weak spot" you nit-picked from the Protection Analysis. It's non-existant in real battles. d, Getting domed by 120mm+ HE will OP anything, not just the Conq. e, Same story as a lot of other tanks. The Cupola is a weak spots for pretty much ANY tank. Sovet 100mm fused and destroyed the American T95's cupola, does that mean that its armor is non-existent?? 3, Bad zoom? so does every other Soviet and American MBT below 7.7.... 4, Horrible accuracy? Now I know you've never played it... I've LFPed T-55 from 1km away without any problems. 5, Which still pen 120mm+ on 60degree plate from 1km away, meaing Soviet Armor is paper to it. 6, Sure. I agree its reload is shit. You learn to live with it. 7. Not an issue. 8. By your metric then all Soviet tanks are dirt. The Vickers Mk1 has the same depression and nobody said anything about it. It's average, not below average.

@@Tummeh111a weakspot is a weakspot. Enemies do usually shoot your cupola and ofc experiences are different for everyone. what sucks is you are a 4 man crew with 3 in turret so you can be one shot from cupola hatch from aphe. Or at very least very disabled. Yes amazing frontal armor but means very little when your giant cupola is ontop. The apds is more of a gamble. I have had insane one shots to then have no spall. Adps likes to be random. Also has a long reload so when apds decides to fail it’s a huge risk. Even if you aim at weakspots sometimes sabot doesn’t like to work. Still a cool tank but you have to play insanely passive even in downtiers.

skill issue

Saying the Churchill 7 is bad when it´s literally one of the best at 4.7 immediately invalidates your opinion.

what is bro talking about the T-10M is at 8.3 do you mean the T-10A?

And?

@@MrMayoPlays and nothing, just saying, I really don't care you don't care, so fck off with that shit