Why The Conqueror Beats The M103 In War Thunder 

Here is a comparison between M103 and Conqueror, Both are massive beast heavy tanks, but which one is better? I'll see about making more improvements on my comparison videos in the future, feel free to leave your feedback. Join my discord community by signing up for my email list through my website here: www.seanfickengaming.com

its nice to see a protection analysis of 2 tanks made to counter the same tank

If the Conqueror's 2 rounds that it has available to it worked correctly, it probably wouldn't be sitting at the same BR as the tanks that it's mean to replace

I always found it interesting that, to me, the last generation of heavy tanks before MBTs took over were so impressive… so long as they found themselves in a PERFECTLY IDEAL engagement. Front directly towards the enemy, preferably only one enemy at a time. It becomes suddenly obvious why they were the last huzzah of the heavy tank. Nobody fights like that, especially not the Soviets. And then, as if that wasn’t enough, developments in ammunition and guns made things even worse for their survivability. Just another nail in the coffin.

Realistically the conqueror is the far better vehicle but in war thunder the lack of damage from the gun makes it SO painful to play

Unfortunately for the M103 it's main AP round suffers from ahistorically awful angled performance. The whole reason the specific version of the 120mm gun was mounted on the M103 was because it proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that it could fully penetrate the upper glacis of an IS-3 at ranges in excess of 1.5km. The older version of this same gun, seen on the T34 Heavy Tank Prototype, was only capable of doing so with expensive experimental APDS and APCR shot that were seen as prohibitively expensive (not the APCR shot seen in game, the one the T34 gets in game is 40s era while both prototype shells were made for the test which was held in the mid 50s). The new cold forging techniques available in the 50s compared to the 40s resulted in the capability of accepting a much higher pressure which allowed stronger propellent to be used making the standard APC shell directly comparable with the more expensive prototype rounds for the older cannon. The M103's AP was also exceptionally effective against harsh slopes due to a controlled shattering of the nose cone that made it turn in towards the plate it was striking rather than away. At angles greater than 60 degrees the M103's APC vastly outperformed the Conqueror's APDS which nominally had far superior flat penetration.

Conqueror my beloved

conquerer when it has to do damage (impossible)

There is a weakspot on the m103 that you can pen with the long 88. It is the bottom corners off the hull, it is a pretty easy shot to make if m103 is not hull down.

It wasn’t that hard but still called it

I think you also overlooked the Conquerer’s Hunter-Killer, the ability to use your commander in order to control the turret and gun has saved me a few times.

m103 when i shoot the driver’s propellant cases with DM12: 💥

The Conqueror never saw service with that add-on armour. Only a single testing mule was ever fitted with it. It would be more accurate to test the Conq without it.

I like this type of video

I play World of Tanks console, specifically the Cold War game mode, but I do enjoy war thunder videos a lot.

Pretty soon Conqueror will have over 600mm pen, and still be fucking useless

It,s fun and games until IS-6 and IS-4 start coming. but still a nice analysis

If you shoot the tracks in the front (not directly at the tracks) but above at a slight angle you can hit the ammo. (Coming from a conqueror player)

Go the conquerer! My 3rd favourite tank to play :P

oh ok I was angling by reflex because of the pershings & t34, thank you I now know not to do that

In real life the M103 had significant faster reload due to the extra crew and more spacious turret but the Conqueror was far superior due to a stabilized turret. Funny thing is they share the same Gun so the M103 could fire the same APDS round as the Conqueror.

i used to play war thunder for literal Hour’s (like 400 hour’s) But the constant suffering, uptier’s and lack of versitility for Britain at every BR and not being able to compete, Made Me rage and get sad for my british line, so i just left and deleted War Thunder 😢

Playing an urban map and seeing an M103 come around the corner toward you turns war thunder into a horror game

Would you like t58 heavy ?

What you missed is how bad the shell shatter now is on the conq apds gone from one of my fav tanks in the game to one I spawn last. But I'd take it any day still over the m103

irl the Conqueror never actually had a stabiliser

Prob because the m103s ap shell doesnt have as much flat or angled pen as it did irl. And that the conqueror gets a stab. Which it didnt IRL.

is4m best 7.7 heavy

Conquerer is my favourite tank

I would take the M103 over the Conqueror mainly due to the AP and HEAT. From my experience of grinding both vehicles the APDS on the Conqueror is 50-50 in spall damage and sometimes it won't even pen, while the AP and HEAT always does the job even if it has less pen but at least the damage is consistent.

M103 next question

The Conq is fun to play. British railgun go brrr.

I havent played the conq yet but i have played m103 quite a bit. I will say its ok and i prefer this over conq beacuse of apds beacuse its apds

My Leopard 1 is worthless whilst playing against these especially against the M103 becouse when I'm zooming 65 km/h it's just impossible to kill that M103

Is pretty funny that both the American and British the lower plate is a weak spot for more powerful rounds.

don’t even have to watch, M103. I play both extensively and while I feel like a bigger chad in the Conq because it’s about 600,000x more difficult to use, there’s no questiion the M103 is superior, and even then the T32E1 is 10x the tank the M103 is at 7.7… it’s not even the best we have to offer at taking an utter dump on the conq. A guy trying to be a brit main is reporting this… I’ve… taken some detours on the way :P

Centurion's big brother

I love how Soviet’s entire fighting motto is “more things go Vroom” in a war situation and The western “counter” for it is just frontal armored heavy tanks. “Ohh my front is armored, you cant penetrate me at perfectly straight angle!” Like brother, you are DEFINITELY not gonna fight only one IS-3. If you saw one, expect more for flanks or whatever. In my opinion this is a bit stupid.

The anwer is somua sm ^^

Being Bri’ish make’s it OUTOMATICALLY worse and un-usable in War Thunder (as a british man, This sad reality Hurt’s More)

M103 stomps. The Conqueror has a gun with the same reload but shoots nerf darts instead. Though looks wise the Conqueror looks decent whereas the M103 looks like a fat banana

The Conqueror has yet another advantage over the M103 not stated in the video. It's not ugly as sin like the M103.

M103 also penetrates the bottom. Conqueror is much superior on the defensive side.

the Conq is significantly worse,on paper its incredible,but in practice,you wont kill anything,Almost 0 demage with 15 sec reload... and dont forget the lower plate which if youre not hull down your be deleted

But playing this and other 7.7 heavies are pain, all 7.7 heavies except maus should be 7.3.

dont get tricket the conc with its needle round does really shit damage

Vive l' AMX 50 Surbaissé !

Quick easy answer. M103 100%

Concy >>>>

I'll CAS them both.

First? Besides creator comment

the maus is better

A better comparison is the T32E1 vs Conq

Surbaisse 😌

Neither

your surname in german 💀