Does this "Fix" The CSL Loadcell? 

I'm not a fan of the rock hard load cell setups either, I need a bit of travel to modulate. It also feels more natural to me, so you're not the only one.

It’s all based on what you’re used to. Anything new will feel uncomfortable. However, I’m pretty sure building muscle memory of force vs travel will always get better results.

@@josephbargo5024 Small myth to debunk: Muscle memory is built in both travel and LC setups. The main difference is the portion of leg used, as LC setups usually require more force and therefore more muscle from the leg (also depends on your rig inclination). The difference between travel and LC have little meaning to our brains. With travel, we develop muscle memory as the amount of pressure we need to achieve to get the brake in the right position, whilst in LC we develop muscle memory as the amount of pressure we need to “just brake”. In both cases, muscle memory is built on the basis of applying pressure.

@@gmark007isGianmarcoMaioli i was going off of the consensus in the sim community. However, this was 5 months ago and I think I have a better grasp on the differences. The reason why I think most people feel load is a better way to get accustomed to is RESOLUTION. The perceived difference between 5 percent brake force when that 5 percent is 1 cm vs 10lbs is much different. Having a perceived difference that is very wide (5lbs-100lbs for example) will always be easier to get consistent with.

good to hear as ive ordered the whole kit, brake, throttle, clutch. I was very disanointed in the base throttle, feels num and to easy to full throttle. i find the brake harder to modulate than my old modded G29! i look forward to a bit more travel and being able to trail brake consistently

I believe the new CSL Load Cell kit is basically a large defective batch and Fanatec is not doing anything about it. The CSL Load Cell kit from before around February had far more travel in the break. You can watch other reviews from 5 months ago and see how much easier it is for them to push the break and farther travel. These literally move about 1-3cm

i think in this case, fixed is a decent term because the previous version of the same product came with different adjustments for the load cell (I own them both). fanatec basically abandoned this with the new version, even though it could have came in the package or be offered as a first-party add-on. Instead we have to turn to third-parties to fix the issue of no adjustability

@@Sandstorming99 that only means that it is another product, another model, perhaps inferior... but not at all that it is broken and has to be fixed. It is another model, it does not come with the hardness that we would all like, but they are not broken and this mod is to improve them, not to fix them. I insist, for the price they are excellent pedals, I agree that Fanatec should have included different elastomers, it would have been a plus and they would be even better pedals... but that does not mean that they are broken and have to be fixed. The term is "improvement" or a title that says "how to fix hard CSL pedals", but not to fix the pedals... it's like we are buying a product that comes broken and failed. These $200 pedals are far superior to Thrustmaster's Tlcms in the same price range. And this title practically says that you are buying a broken product that needs to be fixed, that scares the simracers and they will end up buying the TLCM which are inferior pedals... and that is not right, it will make people waste their money on worse pedals quality. I remind you that they are low or medium-low range pedals with the load calculation included.

@@OnlyInMiami305 For the price, these pedals are very good... they could have been better, of course they were... that happens with all products. But you don't have to scare people that they are bad, that they come broken or are defective. For 200 usd they are much better than their competition and a good pedals to start with. The 3cm travel is only for the first few weeks, then they take more travel and softness. I recommend you watch a streamer on twitch, his name is Stradi, just like his channel. He used the SRP pedals, but since they were not compatible with Playstation and he wanted to do some streams with the console... he switched to CSL. At first he found them hard but after a week he was delighted with the pedals and it goes just as fast as the SRP. We advised him of the 3DRap mod and he said it was not necessary, he felt very comfortable with the pedals. You can see for yourself on his channel. And he is fast... and he has no plans to go back to the SRP, which are probably one of the best pedals on the market. With this example you cannot say that these pedals are defective... that you do not like them is something else, but I insist, they are excellent pedals for their price and to start with. Could they be better? Of course, it happens with all products, but they are not bad or defective.

@@Sandstorming99 i agree they should have added the option from start.... I too have both csl lcm pedals with both mods too lol 😆 ...And.... no they are not broken or defective but could do with improvements.... 👍

I have been playing with the brake force setting too. Started low and found that I was getting the travel I wanted but also locking the brakes took much/easily. Started disling up the brake force and found it stiffer but more precise to subtle variations (trail braking) on the brake pedal.... It takes some time to get used to and build the muscle memory but I have found time by raising the brake force setting on the wheel.... from 10 to now 35... and trying to inch upward..... Besides race cars have very heavy/ hard brakes.... for good reason 🙃

Hey. Kthey contacted me about that after this video came out. You'll have to wait a bit.

I just installed pro kit on my throttlle this morning and it's great! So much better feeling on it. Also the mod to silence it really works haha

Lol 80 bucks for some rubber rings?! Im so glad I like the stock ones xD

@@Sinistic6 paid 48 myself. Must have been some expensive shipping for OP

Same with me i‘m pretty disapointed with the „Upgrade“ Got back to stock and got used to it I like it now surprisingly

I did. Its addressed in the video.

You can also use the old csl mod kit.... but I think that it has stiffer rubbers? 65, 85, and 95 -where new csl come with 65s?

And a happy new year

I had 3drap TLCM mod. For me, it was a game changer. I put one elastomer, one red spring and a couple of spacers so that when the pedal was fully released it still read around 10%. I added deadzone at the bottom so that 10% became 0%. Added spacers compressed red spring a little so that everything became harder to press and with less travel. I know it wasn't supposed to be used this way, but in my case, this configuration provided true progressive feel. But TLCM were released years ago and I wouldn't recommend them now. But if you have them, 3drap will make them "the way loadcell should be used."

@@alpha007org the pedals I was using were about it 12 years old. I only got the T-LCM pedals three weeks ago because the brake pedal in the Fanatec pedals had a slight bit of play and were detecting slight activation when my foot wasn't near them

I bought a 78a super soft skateboard bushing. That sits at the bottom, centre spring with all washers and then a red spring on top. Its far better now with just the travel of one red spring and then into the bushing which is just pressure based. You are right, the stock springs have so much travel it feels awful, no idea what TM were thinking when they released them to be honest.

@@mikelshwede Thrustmaster has a big production, so "3drap-like" elastomers could be made for pennies. If they included them, TLCM would be better from the start and it would not add any additional cost.

@@Steve30x did you try to connect the wheel to computer and use fanalab to set sensitivity of the brake? You should be able to get rid of the "signal" with a dead zone? Just a thought....

I dont know, but I dont see why not. Send them a message.

I prefered the 3drap mod with the tlcms. out of the box, the csls are a bit better. The quality is far better too. Choose based on long term.

Wink wink

I guess you dropped the required brake force in the fanatec settings already. Alternatively, there are springs, usually for 3d printers, that can soften the brakes considerably. You can google them by typing the pedals name and "spring mod" i believe. The required size is 20x25xsomething mm. I have the yellow ones. When setting the pedals to 40%, the spring maxes out pretty much when full force is registered.

But i use one spring, not two. Rest are original rubbers

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Yes it is... everything and everyone i have seen heard say that V3s are the way to go. I have the old csl elite bundle and the new dd bundle with both lcm pedals.... the only upgrade left that I am even considering is the V3 upgrade and mod kit..... however not anytime soon as I got both setups within last 12 months and need to save up some money now lol 😅

@@randomcallsignvideo watched/liked... agree with your assessment completely -for the cost csl is great but for the serious and flexibility the V3s..... Good review and informational 👍

there also other valid solution like replacing with a compression spring just google and you will find ... i did it and far better without spending thsi much

Have you got a Amazon link

@@LeeCragosearch for ALLNICE 35 x 16 mm but leave it with one elastomer conponent and washers there are also pictures if you search on other threadhs

real race cars have tremendous brake travel. even non abs, non brake booster ones. on boards show how much those pedals move around.