DOES WING CHUN WORK? (MUST SEE!!!)

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I have been asked many times if I thought Wing Chun was street worthy. I have trained in 9 Martial Arts, but I do not mention most of them because Martial Arts are ALL designed to handle the defensive needs of a particular time. As times change though, the methods must change and be modified to be applicable to the reality of the environment and circumstances. In this video I do not say anything that has not been said by maters of the style. Many times masters of an art will give advice that the layman or woman does not want to accept because of their romantic notion of the art itself. They have the best advice, but will not accept it. In this way that Martial Art becomes more a "cult" than a functional way of defending yourself. EVERY Martial Arts has an essence and in this video, I point out the reasons Wing Chun appears to be useless in real life situations. I will also give the solution to poor training in it. FOR FURTHER QUESTIONS YOU MAY CONTACT ME AT: UMMAHCAMP@YAHOO.COM

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@joejayno 6 лет назад

Every art works if you know what your doing

@MrMigros123 6 лет назад

That's probably the shortest and best answer ever.

@michaelreynolds6543 6 лет назад

and there you have it people its not the "art" but the practioner . . .i make whatever i have work . . i study wing chun and i have modified it to suit me and to look at it you may well say "aaah thats not wing chun" who cares ? in karate there is no such thing as a first strike ( at least not in modern karate) and it all comes down to this . . .most "arts" are sports based, most arts teach the block & counter method both are flawed for street survival inj my experience its best not to wait to be attacked read the situation and be pre-emptive . . forget the head i ALWAYS start with the leading leg / kneecap and work my way up depending on the situation we all know there is no right or wrong in all this there is nothing wrong with wing chun its concepts are sound its the applications that are difficult to get right . . you can forget stances structure (to a degree) forms etc . . . follow the centrline principle hit first hit fast and hit hard then disengage and get out of there !!i spend alot of time on a special dummy i had built to order and i practice and perfect entry techniques that are aggresive and to the point these stikes do not rely on an attack from my opponent . . . they are honed and submitted to my muscle memory and i do not even have to think about deployment in a situation . .what is hard is giving myself the "green light" i pay attention to pre-fight build up i read the situation and my first technique is . . .deception i suggest to anyone reading this to go read geoff thompson 3 second fighter untill then you do not have a clue about what is happening the knowledge this book ( and the "fence") gives you is worth a thousand techniques and together with your chosen "art" will give you confidence and ground you

@michaeltruthson6262 6 лет назад

Jo Jayno 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👊👊👊👊👊👊thank God you know what you are talking about!!!!!! yes

@Soysaucemoto 6 лет назад

This!

@aurourus6894 6 лет назад

I don't think my spinning broom of death technique is that good.

@stevebb2915 7 лет назад

This video was on point as always. Some arts just aren't designed for the western notion of sparring. youngsters and inexperienced people don't realise that real world fighting starts at a much closer range than in combat sports usually

@GeekWingChun 6 лет назад

Thank you for these understanding words, my friend. Your words echo something I have thought for ages: the style does not make the person work...the person makes the style work.

@qewproduction 7 лет назад

I remember unknowingly sparring a Wing Chun man for the first time about a year ago. I had to make adjustments as I had never encountered that type of aggressive "sticking" before. It made for very interesting sparring. What I quickly learned in that sparring session was that as soon as we made "contact" he intended to stay in contact with his attack. When I realized this, I made a point to try to be first and move forward on him with a flurry of punches before he did it to me, lol... Wing Chun is no doubt effective for those who know how to use it I"d say.

@poorkwamoi 6 лет назад

Love the sticky hands. You hit it on the nail. Wing Chun's Hallmark is sticky hand. I use it a lot in my BJJ to take guys down that are 20-30 years younger than I am and frustrate them.

@FracturedPixels 5 лет назад

Met a really deadly bloke once. His background was in wing chun but he called himself a practitioner of not getting your head punched in, and he told me exactly that; the best counter to someone who's good at sticky hands is a flurry of punches, and the best counter to a flurry of punches is a slightly faster flurry of punches.

@MrMatchboxman 5 лет назад

Wing Chun varies a bit. I was always taught that the time to close the gap is when the opponent launches their attack. Tell your mate to give that a try. The wing Chun I did was a very predatory style... no moving back (unless you have to). As soon as they flinch you're in, dont matter if it's a fake, just go forward and rely on structure, momentum and speed. This, of course, as well as their usual tactic.

@benob6746 4 года назад

Exactly

@emersonmacintosh7673 5 лет назад

Spot on! Nothing wrong with WC but when I tried to study it the stances and footwork felt counter-intuitive to me and the techniques seemed even more finesse dependent than karate. Not my cup of tea but I've studied the philosophies of many martial arts that aren't right for me because they still have a lot to offer. One instructor just has to give you one good piece of wisdom and it can improve your martial arts extensively. Most martial arts are also better than nothing if you've made up your mind why you're studying them in the first place so you know what you want out of it. That way you can figure out if you're getting what you want or not. I realized right away WC wasn't going to give me what I was looking for so I moved on.

@michaeltruthson6262 6 лет назад

BROTHER thank you thank you so much for this beautiful scientific break down of Martial Arts.

@eternalspring6520 Год назад

Excellent video!!

@khonrak 6 лет назад

Wing Chun, Self defense, up close hands on combat, finish it off quickly, Superb advise. Thanks for posting. Freedom & Peace, always !

@TheUmmahFightCamp 6 лет назад

Nick Scott: Hey dude! I try to respond to everyone although it is not easy. Thanks for your comment. Peace and blessings, Sayf C

@bennysifu3928 5 лет назад

I practiced wing Chun for 12 years and in my opinion it’s works for close combat but if your far away from someone it will not work that when you have to think to like use your legs and some kind of weapon near you but in close combat it depends how you use it cause most people they back up and there scared of attacking the opponent but all you need to do is block grapple trap and attack also most people kick and fast punch and they side punch and uppercut which is pretty easy to block you just have to flow like water and dodge those hits but it take skill to do wing Chun it’s supposed to be for women that’s why a women made wing Chun for women to defend themselves from men hurting them.

@michaeltruthson6262 6 лет назад

Every art works if the teacher but more importantly the "practioner" again I say the "practioner" knows what he or she is doing. Oh and if you get rid of the jeet kune do Hollywood movie magic bullshit and Wing Chung is amazing.

@obsidianx01 4 года назад

You are absolutely right .... everyone is practicing it wrong..... it is a short strike, sticking art

@carlosmurray1528 6 лет назад

D ont judge this guy by appearance. He is level headed and educational. I watched to 13:21 when i came to this conclusion. Idef miss judged him.

@TheUmmahFightCamp 6 лет назад

carlos murray: I appreciate your comment, but I want to say this: I am likely the most experienced person on RU-vid for the amount of arts I am qualified to teach at the advanced level. None of which was learned by DVD! Boxing for 46 years, wrestling high school and Jr college, Karate (black belt under the 2 major pioneers of FULL-CONTACT BARE KNUCKLE karate), Filipino Kali (Advanced Level), Silat (advance level), Brown belt (Judo), Wing Chun (Biu-Jee level), Muay-Thai (Instructor level) Today I teach my own method of combatives. Add to that the fact that I will be backing off from posting videos in the near future to start towards my Phd in Philosophy a journey I started as a 17 year old after I entered college with SATs 200 points higher than Al Gore and 230 points higher than GW Bush. My appearance is actually of a Black man with a beard. Now if a person thinks my "appearance" would inspire one to think I was not bright, maybe that is why most people from abroad think Americans are primitive. Not to mention that I am fairly handsome in a rugged way :)

@TheUmmahFightCamp 6 лет назад

carlos murray: I forgot to mention that before I became a nice guy, as a younger hot head I had knocked out a few people and spit on them as they slept. They had it coming though. I assure you that I am reformed, but "real".

@raian4815 4 года назад

I want to do wing chun, but after watching this video, i don't understand all of the personality thing... yes i liked the movies of ip man and for bruce lee i lowkey im not really a fan of him... the reason why i like wing chun is because wing chun is different from others.. it has trapping and has straight blast... it has such detail moves which i believe if mastered and done correctly could be deadly.. also i've seen the linage of wing chun and how it is represent now and i just want to prove to the world that its not useless but i really dont know if it is useful.. the only experience of fighting i have is like 3 to 4 weeks of boxing and my style was peek a boo style and the style i did like it and it worked for me.

@kaindrg 7 лет назад

Hey sayf id also like to note that. Wing chun and many okinawan karate styles are cousin styles in that they originated in the same region of china. If you look at other related styles of karate and kung fu. They have similar katas. What is especially interesting is that the crane style wing chun is descended from is actually the same or similar regional style uechi ryu and gojunryu takes its partial parentage from. This is all because the region china in question has a unique connection with okinawa since they were the source of okinawas chinese and society culture prior to japans annexation

@TheUmmahFightCamp 7 лет назад

kaindrg: True. MOST Goju-ryu practitioners do not train in KAKIE which is like Chi Sau, but more intense.

@kaindrg 7 лет назад

The dna between wing chun and goju and uechi ryu are what i call sanchin styles. where the opening forms are pigeon toed. In china there used to be a lot of village styles that were part of the large family of styles.

@TheUmmahFightCamp 7 лет назад

Okay lol

@kaindrg 7 лет назад

TheUmmahFightCamp hey sayf do you have an opinion on why sakuraba was successful against the gracies?

@TheUmmahFightCamp 7 лет назад

I like all of them, but I do favor Suparinpei

@MrMigros123 6 лет назад

Everything is relative. My martial art instructor is half of your weight but I would give you only five second before you are dead if you try attacking him with a knife in a dark alley by night time. Just do the martial art that you love, find an instructor that has a real passion for his art and practice a lot. I have seen young and passionate people, men and women becoming incredibly efficient with time. But for that you need practice and passion. Everything else is just pure illusion.

@TheUmmahFightCamp 6 лет назад

Dany: Getting attacked in a DARK alley with a knife is a scenario one can hope to survive alive. The skills needed to not get stabbed HAVE to be practiced a live as possible or it is an illusion no matter how deadly we think we are or our teachers are.

@dennissweeney6774 5 лет назад

I study wing Chun and Kali you do not want to be in a knife fight some one with no training will fuck you up if not really carful I would run if l could . I am no coward. you will get cut in a knife fight. thanks for the video.

@wemersomdasilvacaruso994 Год назад

I completely disagree with wing chun being tactile and efficient at the same time (in practice in difficult sparring) as wing chun makes contact at the wrists, not with the hands on the tips of the forearms as in wrestling or tai-chi. Take a look at "Phone Booth Fighting", wing chun would be destroyed in this type of scenario (and the worst thing is that our art seniors say that his proposal is for this type of scenario) because it's very difficult to be tactile on the wrists when the opponent has closed guard, and the arms are quickly withdrawn at the end of each punch, so how do you Will you maintain contact on the wrists to get the tactile sensation? It won't, and anyone who says they will and applies it ends up doing wrestling or tai-chi with punches and not wing-chun. Wing chun is about central line and triangulation done with the elbow usually INSIDE. Taichi and wrestling the elbow usually stays OUT. I think wing chun only makes sense if used with 2 machetes due to central line and triangulation principles. if you try to apply it without a machete, it will just be a new style inspired by wing chun or you will be beaten if you use it in its essence, and I know this because I have seen many of these styles that do not follow the essence of wing chun (central line and triangulation) My guess is that wing chun started with machetes or something similar, and it was efficient for that, but then they tried to copy the principles to use with arms and legs, and it may even have been efficient at the time it was created, but with the evolution of striking, it tasted like shit

@wemersomdasilvacaruso994 Год назад

Experiment for anyone who wants to validate what I'm talking about centerline and triangulation. Defend a punch (it has to be delivered in a way that exposes the forearm) with the palm of the hand with the elbow INSIDE, and you will feel the impact on your torso, this is wing chun, many people focus completely on redirecting with elbow out, you don't even feel the impact of the punch on your torso that way

@JC-wm7ws 5 лет назад

Ma sha Allah great video akh

@TheUmmahFightCamp 6 лет назад

Patrick Laroux: Please do not post the videos of other people in MY forums. I do not get support from many others therefore having the videos of others in our forums is not what we do. If people want to learn HOW things are applied, they can come to my forums.

@richx5064 6 лет назад

Have you ever sparred with a boxer and used Wing Chun on him? That might be a good video on how Wing Chun works or not in the ring.

@alexander3666 6 лет назад

I still don't understand what the mentality of getting inside has to do with my personality

@TheUmmahFightCamp 6 лет назад

alexander: some people do not have the mental makeup to fight close.

@alexander3666 6 лет назад

TheUmmahFightCamp Okay I get it now. When people are very shy for instance they are very uncomfortable with being up close. Thanks for the response!

@dwuonw6438 6 лет назад

Anything works if you train hard in it, even street fighting

@smartresearchwingchun494 6 лет назад

Disagree. If you trained hard in pseudo martial art techniques, would it work? This is what's happening to the mainstream Wing Chun.

@danielpletcher3074 5 лет назад

I have been dabbling in martial arts most of my life Aikido Wing Chun and over 10 years of Taekwondo I will use it all depending on the circumstances if I'm in close Wing Chun, but I gravitate towards Aikido more than anything I don't understand why but I do I don't care what anyone says I can make it work and I can break their s*** if necessary and if I can't make it work I have strikes to back it up

@mickydub3 6 лет назад

Mookie ban sella cumbo cumbo demous croonella ????

@KuenSuiKuen 7 лет назад

Well said...I think any functional WC practioner will agree. Bless

@TheUmmahFightCamp 7 лет назад

KuenSiuKuen: Thanks!

@Henry-cy2kk 6 лет назад

BEAUTIFUL Real-World assessment! You sir, clearly know what you're talking about... Thank you so much for the clarity! You Rock.

@TheUmmahFightCamp 6 лет назад

Henry: Most people do not want the truth about the fighting arts. You came to this channel. What that means is YOU "Rock".Thanks for your support.

@Noah-pc6wq 7 лет назад

You just made me realise guys like Henry Armstrong, Roberto Duran, Joe Frazier, they'd all have been very good at Wing Chun.

@TheUmmahFightCamp 7 лет назад

Yup!

@mr.blackman3312 7 лет назад

+TheUmmahFightCamp great comment, Duran would almost catch punches using wing Chung techniques when he fought in the clinch.

@myronsmith2114 5 лет назад

Noah- Duran would have been a master of Wing Chun

@anthonyallen9560 2 года назад

That’s the best explanation I’ve ever heard wow!!! Amen Not all martial arts fit the personality of practitioners.

@nyclee9133 6 лет назад

I’m no student in wing chun but I am in. Hung gar but I used a wing chun punch and I knocked out this guy silly when I tried using it like jeet kune do it didn’t work or boxing but when I stayed relaxed and calm and the moment he moved that chi sao and a punch showed up right in his face sensitive is crazy in a fight just one punch that’s how fast real fights are no rules

@alex09aries 7 лет назад

Another good vid Sayf and very true too , Wing Chung for me worked best when I combined it with western boxing.

@Dan53196 6 лет назад

In EBMAS wing tzun we work on explosive foot work to bring us in range but if the opponent is out of range we leave him alone; if he wants to attack, he must come into range. Even if he darts in and out like perhaps a boxer, we use foot work to stick to him and then apply constant pressure attacking multiple levels simultaneously; legs, jamming arms and striking. I used to box and this was one of the things that I experienced with my instructor that made me believe the effectiveness of it. The problem is, most systems don’t practice any kind of footwork.

@poorkwamoi 6 лет назад

Daniel Williamson You are spot on. Footwork is the most important. Famous Chinese proverb:. teach student hands, teacher beats student. Teach student feet (Footworks) student beats teacher. Most people practicing wing chun works only on hands and arms. The masters use internal works with their feet that most students do not see or are not taught until later. Great comment

@kennylopezjeetkunedo5555 7 лет назад

It's a matter of finding the right instructor teaching it. Only reason why I got into JKD is because my instructor knew what he was doing and this is something I seen with my own eyes first hand, not just with other people, but even myself attacking him for real. JKD works really well in the streets but the problem is, too many people have watered down these systems for commercialized reasons.(JKD is also a complete system that's flexible and can be adjusted when applied correctly) Wing Chun, JKD, and Aikido(which is even more complicated) are not for everyone.(Seagal is a 7th dan in Aikido and a very good teacher from his documentary video he put out, but even Seagal has added other things to his Aikido, and no one style is gonna have all the answers) And if you don't have a teacher that understands the concepts and knows how to apply it in actuality, it won't work. And it also takes several years to get good at these systems, it's not something you're going to get quick results at. 6 months to a year isn't enough time.

@TheUmmahFightCamp 7 лет назад

Kenny Lopez: That is my issue with most teachers and martial arts: It should NOT take 6 years to be able to fight.

@kennylopezjeetkunedo5555 7 лет назад

Oh I didn't say anything about it taking 6 years to be able to fight, I was saying that some systems are more complicated than others to be truly effective at it and requires a little more time than others. But anything takes time to get to an elite level, even if you know all the basics. You'll get your exceptions to the rule sometimes though. Some styles are better for sport where others aren't...it all depends on the style but it also depends on the individual using it. Like not just anyone is gonna be able to use Mike Tyson's peek a boo style and use it effectively, which you even made videos explaining why.

@TheUmmahFightCamp 7 лет назад

Kenny Lopez: Boxing is a sport. I only "tolerate" sport fighting, I do not support it other than a tool. Self defense is not the same. I teach "In reverse". People learn to fight as soon as they come in the door. That is why they are there.

@stephenpack2202 7 лет назад

absolutely correct spot on wing chun is very aggressive but you must close the gap. be able to bridge your opponent with power and structure sense the openings. great points

@jpmann5802 7 лет назад

I forgot to add the mentality of people is fad based. Many styles are overlooked for the street as they may not be effective individually in the UFC. Unless you are fighting on the beach in your skimpies Clothing is not considered an important factor when it very much is. Fights don't happen much on the beach anyway as most people are chilling and tanning. Judo grab your garms up and hip toss onto the pavement. Overlooked. Tigerstyle Kung fu. Blind,scratch,gauge, your opponent. Overlooked. The Streetfight move called 'Drapes' (grab up somebody by their clothes pull them off balance and all over the place then add strikes if you choose to). No clothes to grab in a UFC fight. Furthermore it's raining you are in jeans and it kicks off all the TKD tools get shortened as your kicking gets handicapped. Then wing chun comes in sweetly block,and punch. Scene and setting are very important and MMA is a sport. This is why Keysi and Krav Maga and the above styles are important. However mastery is taking the style you have and making it work in a practical sense not in the politics of the dojo. Which is why I would love for you to do a video on blocks against boxing strikes using Karate and Wing Chun. Let me know if that's sounds cool to do?

@deanb7194 7 лет назад

JP Mann exactly judo has helped me more than anything else then boxing

@TheUmmahFightCamp 7 лет назад

JP: A lot to go over lol, I will get around to that. GW.

@nabzalrash4955 6 лет назад

Escrima/Kali and Silat are great feeling arts as well. Spot on video, you need to have the mentality for an art. If you aren’t aggressive and mentally tough for example you shouldn’t do kyokushin

@PierceSunderseatsRAMEN Год назад

"...very poor kickboxers; Who also happen to be drunk." I shake my head that you have to say some of this though.

@re-mem-brremember7452 6 лет назад

I honestly don't think that the Chinese REALLY invented kung fu because they can not apply it at the highest levels of fighting. It's always a black man that can apply all of these arts at high levels. Specifically i believe that Wing Chun is more about grappling than what is traditionally taught. They don't teach this because they don't really know it.

@geertmulder8881 7 лет назад

Well said, the main reason why it wouldn't work for most people in my opinion is the tensing up while a fight starts. it removes the feel from a fight. you don't have the fast relaxed movement, as you would have in sparring.

@gtarluvnman 5 лет назад

A lot people latch on to ideas that move away from the practical purpose of the martial arts or self defense. Once you have moved away from the main principles of art or self defense effectiveness fades. So the question is "what is your truth? ". What are you expecting from your training?

@nostyle9169 6 лет назад

I enjoyed your take very much. I've been in MA a very long time and began hard style Japanese and Okinawan, later Kung -fu. However everything began outside with close gap, enter, and exchange. Once inside I also felt and knew that my fighting ability lacked at that inside range. Took boxing and that helped but still lacking contact could not totally control opponebt unless my blows landed. I found Wing Chun in the late 80's and it totally changed my game. Suddenly I could explode in using the speed, techniques, fakes, and faints I learned in hard style, and once I was inside there was no rush to get out because I felt very comfortable at that range. Hence, my confidence and ability went exploded. I know from personal experience that WC is awesome inside but I also know that had it not been for many years of training footwork, distance, timing, and movement I would have never reached the level of success I have reached in my MA career. WC completed my game, and my past experience contributed to my WC success. Thanks for a super video, and understanding the game. Keep it up!

@jkrisanda2011 7 лет назад

Really can't argue with all that....

@finding_aether 5 лет назад

Let's get real, Ip Man's claim to fame was that he was the teacher of Bruce Lee, who discovered the stuff his master was teaching was not very good when he tried to use the stuff against other martial arts.

@kj3rd2657 6 лет назад

I agree with everything you said in your video. Very good info on WC. I use my WC inside as a surprise attack and to take a person out real fast and hard, before they can realize what I am using on them. To me WC is not for going 5 rounds in a real street fight. I study WC on and off for 5+ years, but I change it to fit me and it has worked for me real good. Thanks for your good video.

@Rolysupersaiyan 3 года назад

the thing is, and this is the thing that most people don't get is that boxing and wing chun are one of the oldest martial arts but boxing is the most sport promoted martial art in the world. Its not that boxing can't be used in the streets but the sport aspect of boxing has gained so much power it has seeped its way deep into traditional boxing. As such when you think of boxing you immediately imagine a ring and 15 rounds and scoring for points. And so the guy punches 1,2,3 and then backs out to repeat the cycle over and over again until he either wins by ko or points. And this is where wing chun comes in because the problem is that wing chun was never designed for sport. It was designed like Ummah says to close the distance and take the F&*CKI&NG guy out PERIOD. Wing Chun was not made for playing with boxer for 15 rounds i punch you punch i punch yeepiee i m having so much fun no!!!! it was designed for real scenarios were you bong sao trap and then TAKE THE F&**(*NG GUYS HEAD OFF NO JOKE NO PLAYING AROUND LIKE BOXER. once that elbow or eye poke hits he's DONE FINISHED on the ground crying to his mama. and so the problem is that these wing chun guys think that there going to just stand there in their wing chun pose for 15 rounds and trade blows with a boxer and its not going to work.

@mokyan7 6 лет назад

Just thought of something else, over time with wing chun you just feel that a strike can work, that force can be redirected, etc. Not mysticism but perhaps muscle memory, you don’t have to think you just do. But please keep thinking, ha ha

@danielpletcher3074 5 лет назад

I'm the type of person where I try to avoid it and I'll back out but I had a situation one time where some bikers jumped me and they punched me and got the better end of me their punches were kind of b******* they had nothing behind them so I grabbed one of their guys put them in a clinch and decided f*** Muay Thai knee strike the s*** out of them I was ambushed they punched me a couple times yeah they got some good shots but they walked away with busted ribs and swollen Jaws because if I feel I can't walk away anymore you're right I'm going to stick it to them and you better watch out cuz I'm going to tear you apart until you're not moving and if it's Wing Chun if it's a Aikido if it's Taekwondo I don't care what it is but you're not going to attack me and get away with it that's my philosophy and I don't care who likes it

@Taekwon-Brando Год назад

Chi sao has so many parallels with handfighting in wrestling, my sifu loves sensitivity training but sparring is the top of his priority list

@pausetapemedia7942 5 лет назад

When you get the Time can you talk about American Kenpo or Ed Parker??

@prime14901 7 лет назад

i appreciate you making this video brother, you out into words how i feel about some of the wing chun community, and yea again what great blessings it is for so many people to kno about the art now, its just not for every 1. My teacher always said finding an art that suits you should be your first focus not because of its popularity. great video

@paulkersey1007 6 лет назад

Sir, I am not a hundred percent sure as to how much Wing Chun you know, however allow me to please say that I have been practicing this art for nearly 18 years and I thank you for making this video and really telling the truth about the art. It is an unfortunate shame that we live in a world in which people judge Arts, and human beings based upon appearance only. On behalf of my Academy, my instructors, as well as my students, we thank you for giving a very genuine perspective on this art.

@TheUmmahFightCamp 6 лет назад

Anthony Chu: I started boxing when I was 9 years of age and after training in other martial arts for 10 years, I started Wing Chun to get some of the close up fighting principles. . I was able to advance quickly because Of my boxing background. I raised my back leg and did a few other things that are not traditional, but I clearly used WC concepts. I got to level Chum Kiu. I am in no way a master of WC, but I can say first hand that it is very useful. In fact, my plans are to do a follow up on this video because of a question I got a few weeks ago. I will notify when it is up. Lastly, I am very flattered by your comment. It makes the criticism I receive worth the irritation. Peace and blessings to you sir, Sayf C.

@theschoollife1030 6 лет назад

Wing chun does good. When you have the right teacher

@samplerlee4727 6 лет назад

you are right brother but u fucked up on one thing.. MOST wing chun ppl are BEGINNERS and they dont think of CHI Sao. they think of the CHAIN PUNCH.. and that CENTER LINE.. that! is where wing chun fucks up.. im a wing chun and tai CHI man myself for 9 years

@TheUmmahFightCamp 6 лет назад

Sampler Lee: First watch your mouth in my forum. Next, If "most" WC people are beginners, after this video, they are not. Lastly, I am not big on styles. I have a stellar linage and still I am a combative teacher. That is what I do.

@jestfullgremblim8002 Год назад

I honestly tho that this was going to be a bad video. I was wrong.

@mokyan7 6 лет назад

Good discussion of personality, mindset. I started wing chun several years back and it was my first style. I still practice it, and only in past couple years do I feel much more confident with it. I do like Bruce Lee and JKD. Also I took a Krav class for a year and it helped open my mind and work on falling, getting up, distance, weapon redirects, etc. it improved my skills, shadow boxing, flow more. I also do footwork drills such as for boxing and it helps me move quicker, change angles, stay loose but reroot quickly. I am okay at Chi sau but what has really helped in recent times is that we do various distance drills, attacker closes, you do 2 or more attacks, take turns, perhaps 15-20% power - but you practice actually touching the attacker, so you get used to the right distance. My mindset doesn’t think about what the attacker might do. When he is in range I just flow, strike close target, keep going until threat stopped. Sometimes I do freestyle practice on the wooden dummy and see what results. Sometimes I see ideas in my mind and then try them out, to internalize flow, feel, skills. I also practice hitting heavy bag and wall bags to build power, rooting, etc. I always seek to learn more. I would like to do more basic BJJ ground work too to blend into wing chun. I have experimented with straight and turning punches, various WC techniques on the ground, they work well but have to focus on getting back up ASAP, shifting off assailant. I suppose I also enjoy the self improvement aspect of kung fu and living in peace as much as you can.

@glennr2358 7 лет назад

Absolute spot on video Sayf.

@TheUmmahFightCamp 7 лет назад

Glenn Richards: Thanks dude.

@MrMichaelmoonchild 23 дня назад

perfectly said brother.

@tommysheehan6888 3 года назад

Martial arts work it's the person not the art that's knows how to use the art

@Philip-dy3ww 3 месяца назад

“Personality matches style “ is so so true!

@Kalydosos 7 лет назад

I think punching someone in the bottom jaw or around the head underneath the eyes bare knuckle with a Wing Chung punch your less likely to damage your hand. The Radius and Ulna are aligned better and easier to throw if your short range and throwing from the elbow joint launching from the hip. A variation of punching that might cause less injury is to turn your fist Diagonally I think people underestimate how delicate the hands are, Sayf the African American you mention is talked about in detail by a British guy Martin Austwick. He teaches Pugilism the ex slaves name was Molenew he beat up the top Champion in England at the time Tom Gribb 1800s, unfortunately for Molenew he was the wrong colour and from the wrong country.

@TheUmmahFightCamp 7 лет назад

Kalydosos: I am familiar with MOLINOUX. On the fist, I have to admit my hands are conditioned as are most old school karate fighters. We break hard objects regularly so the issue of soft hands is not an issue for us of my generation. The knuckles are very hard and are a very good weapon for those who strengthen them.

@francoisdavis7254 6 лет назад

Then your technique is wrong and you dont know what you are talking about

@GeekWingChun 6 лет назад

Thank you for these understanding words, my friend. Your words echo something I have thought for ages: the style does not make the person work...the person makes the style work.

@cindymananzalamartinez6679 5 лет назад

Wing chun could be helpful, if used properly as a supplement to boxing or other martial arts. You just have to make minor adjustments to movements that are weak and unreliable in a real fight, like the closed elbow punches that don't have power. Wingchun punches pull strength from the elbow to the fist, when it should be from the foot upwards to the shoulder and then to the fist.

@florisvanlingen 6 лет назад

I agree with many points you make in this video. It's the kind of people that train it and for what kind of reasons. How they train and how good their teacher is. Under ip man there's only a few students who really went out there and fought like wong shun leung. Other then going out and fighting he spend like 20 years training with ip man. My instructor first started in the wang kiu system at age 7 and learned wsl from barry lee(the machine) later on. I know that lineage matters, but being realistic is even more important. My instructor can only give me the tools, I need to build. Rome wasnt built in a day, and notwith little effort. A man who know's a 1000 kicks is not more dangerous than a man who practices one kick a 1000 times. Ving-tsun has many techniques, a boxer has less. To be able to be as good you might need to train 4x as hard and this is the reality. I'm not even taking personality and body type into a count. To be good at wing-chun you need to be a perfectionist.To be good at JKD you need to understand wing-chun. You must understand that wing-chun works in close and not at a far. You can train to make it work but not by rushing in with chainpunches you just practiced for 2weeks. I have been doing wing-chun for 10+ years now under my instructor but he tells me that me my dad, brother and I are exceptions when it comes to the kinds of people that comes to our gym. They wont train as motivated intense and as long as we do. This wasnt in my nature but it developed because of my dad draging me to training when I didnt feel like going. Martials arts is hard work , not imitating a movie.

@nahyoudontsay7537 6 лет назад

I love this video sir well done.

@TheUmmahFightCamp 6 лет назад

Thank you sir!

@thomashenderson7481 5 лет назад

Peace it!! brother! Peace it!!! People do care a lot about legends of WC & JKD . That's why it's ineffective to those who looks down on WC! People like this guy who earned Name DORY DIRT & DEREK, THE DUMBBELL

@adampress9788 4 месяца назад

Excellent advice

@OGFITNESS 5 лет назад

Wow, that opened up my mind. Excellent video. Subscribed!

@mountaintiger6945 4 года назад

Is Jeet Kune Do effective ? Is it street worthy ? Or is it all hype just because it's said to have been "created" by Bruce Lee, after all there seems to be a strong influence of watered down wing chun in it.

@frankalbanese1491 6 лет назад

Very insightful.

@CaspianCEO 5 лет назад

I'm 6'4" Muay Thai practitioner but, I usually don't use my range (don't usually need it tbh) and really like low kicks and elbows. You think muay thai is for me?

@Capius1272 6 лет назад

Solid Vid. Wing Chun absolutely fits my "personality" as well as my body build. I've literally ended fights quickly due to the speed of bridging and a few blocks and a combo strike including head butts. Again great exploitation of Wing Chun principle.

@stephenguy7749 4 года назад

One of the things I watched on a documentary was some of your older Chinese original students and Masters we're talking about the problems they see in today's Wing Chun is too many practice hours on things like Chi SAU and someone said isn't that what we're supposed to do and they said yes but we see a lot of people practise it like it's for fun and not applying real situations to it for instance they said you watch someone on tv do chain punches and then he demonstrated it and said looks real good but when you do that in a real fight no one is going to stand there and the same as chi sau Ahh this is fun yeah yeah I hit you then you hit me we and then they all said thats stupid because no one is going to chi SAU in a fight But here's what peple missunderstand ok and this was grand master chu shong tin who trained with up man. he said about the foundation in the chi sauas if I punch you and you block me I trap your hand and then bang hit you with that same fist and THAT IS CHI SAU in other words the idea of chi sau makes you look for openings and then bridge the gap that means get close and knock them out

@robbyD649 6 лет назад

Any art is viable...depends on the person....the will the fight is most the important thing....calming your fear and staying focused under high stress of a fight so you can let your muscle memory perform your art without thinking about doing thos move or that move....be like water....

@jhitchman1 5 лет назад

Very good video. Wing Chun like all Martial Arts is a process that like all things takes time to gain some level of ability to use. It’s not the art but the person. Those with too little experience find themselves representing Wing Chun on RU-vid looking as he describes because they do not yet have the Kung fu “in them”. The Kung fu is the boat that gets you across the river. When you get to the other side you should leave the boat in the water. Let the boat do it’s job and not be your ball and chain. Not everyone studies Wing Chun to learn how to fight. But for those that do a good Sifu will guide and train you in that direction.

@samplerlee4727 6 лет назад

I wasn't trying to be disrespectful I was just agreeing with you. you're right about your aspects of Wing Chun. that's what I meant to say is a lot of Wing Chun practitioners just practice and don't actually develop the fighting style I don't believe in Styles either I believe it in a person being a fighter and a person not being a fighter

@mehdiriza4483 7 лет назад

Thanks for that insight, Sayf. I once read that Bruce Lee said he originally got into Wing Chun because the in-close fighting was more suited to his poor eyesight than other Kung Fu styles. Of course later on he adapted techniques from boxing and many other martial arts to make up for the gaps in his knowledge.

@bogdanstevanovic9850 6 лет назад

short distance with punching from one point (box, muay thai, wing chun...) VS long distance with in and out footwork(karate)

@mirkomisic5884 6 лет назад

Great !

@jameshart8344 4 года назад

Jack of all trades, master of none this guy. His VO2 max must be about 72.

@ppkrex 7 лет назад

I remember when I was training wing chun the first thing I would start training with my partners was pummeling, and clinching then get into push hands and sticky hands.

@complexblackness 7 лет назад

What are your thoughts on Kajukenbo?

@TheUmmahFightCamp 7 лет назад

ComplexBlackness: I HATE talking "style" lol. I only do it when asked to. It really does NOT make much difference what style you train in. It all comes down to intent and gross motor skills that will not portray you when it is real.

@totstur6219 5 лет назад

I'm training wing Chun and I know how I should use it against other martial arts and in the streets Wing Chun works if u don't lose the close contact

@moelstone4187 5 лет назад

Well said brother. I'm still training but i have yet to have a sparring partner best me when I'm using the art. I do mix it with a couple other things but every time I'm close it's instinct to go with the art and it's very effective.

@SP-kx3xm 3 года назад

"Show me a personality, I'll show you a style"...TRUTH!!!

@keanan5360 3 года назад

How do you think a Wing Chun practitioner would stand up to a Thai clinch?

@uwisethegreat 7 лет назад

Great Dialogue

@julcsijulcsi3700 6 лет назад

WIng Chun WORK .Like Donny Yen master Like Jackie Chan

@julcsijulcsi3700 6 лет назад

WIng Chun WORK .Like Donny Yen master Like Jackie Chan

@goku546686 6 лет назад

So how does one find a style that matches personality

@minirock4858 6 лет назад

There's no secret... you must try until you find out. Took me 4 shots and about 6 years to find the one that matched my personality.

@poorkwamoi 6 лет назад

Agree with minirock Also, these recommendations: 1)why do you want to learn martial arts and be honest about it. (a lot of people will say "self defense which is whole lotta BS and can of worms) Do you want revenge from being picked on? Do you want to become a fighter? Do you want to exercise but hate regular workouts? Etc. 2) your body type and it's natural tendencies. Do you like to wrestle? Grapple? Kick? Punch? Combos? Many styles are unique and have been analyzed for what their main techniques are. Start from the ones closest to your body type and tendencies. Then move on as you get better. 3) and as you get better, you may move on because you have changed. And that is ok. You can always go back. But give each one at least 6 months of trial because sometimes it may take that long before you start to feel it. Don't forget factors such as bad teachers, bad schools, limited schools of styles, economic limitations. Worse comes to worse, study the foundations in your own home. Horse stances, rolling around. Footwork.

@generalshockwavekingpin326 3 года назад

Great points that you make, Mr. Carman/ Ummah Fight Camp.

@jameshart8344 4 года назад

Loads of UFC heavyweights study wing chizzie 😂

@gonefishingstudios 6 лет назад

Salam Brother I agree with every word you said. I just wish there were more instructors with your deep understanding of human combat..Im incorporating some wing chun trapping techniques along with muay thai clinch and wrestling/judo to have a solid close range game. Whats the differences between chain punches and rapid uppercuts to the body? not much right? Both are forms of pugilism after all. Wing chun excels when combined with boxing, especially in the close range, you have hooks and uppercuts and traps and various short range hand techniques that work extremely well , for example theres a technique where you get the back of the head and uppercut or throat with a leopard fist with the other hand which could be used very well in the clinch. One of the best instructors who exemplifies close range wing chun to the max is sifu kong chi keung from hong kong (from discovery channel fightquest). I have found that boxing footwork and in particular the double jab can be used well to close the distance to get inside and apply inside boxing and wing chun techniques. Also Sayf wanted to know whats your thought on the ninjutsu movements like shinobi science and master karim? Its always been a style Ive been interested in.

@james6818 6 лет назад

gonefishingstudios what in the name of fuck is a leopard fist. Is it a finisher from Tekken 2?

@aceofangles1774 4 года назад

It depends on the person who uses it and if the person is practicing right

@veronidimitrov4883 6 лет назад

Respect man! Finally someone who knows what they are talking about. Really tired of all the people just trash talking hidden behind their computer screens. Well done! Keep doing what you are doing peace.

@TheUmmahFightCamp 6 лет назад

Veroni, thanks dude. Appreciate it.

@pascal0868 6 лет назад

Good points brother. The challenge nowadays to the chunner and to any striker is the grappler/clincher. You are now in their territory. Without stopping power, non lethal stopping power, the chunner us screwed.

@TheUmmahFightCamp 6 лет назад

Pascal o: The problem with people who lose to grappler is the conventional way they engage them. Punch them in the nuts, they will let go of the arm! Bite into their ear and they will loosen their grip. NP at all. When people talk about anyone being in trouble with a grappler they are usually talking about sport. I do not teach that.

@rickharris5888 6 лет назад

Every art is best depending on circumstances and the artist.

@surfeit5910 6 лет назад

This makes me feel "late to the party". I'm basically too old to care to learn a martial art for the show of the martial art. I have no desire to fight others for sport, etc. I was looking for something, though, that I could become competent at without killing myself. I wanted something that could simply "end" a fight without showmanship and maintain a peaceful composure. And after a failed attempt at Taekwondo, heard about Wing Chun. I didn't realize it was one of Bruce Lee's styles and before this, had never seen or heard of the Ip Man movies.