Mechanical derailleurs, threaded BB shell, we are almost there, I think I'll be waiting for the Dogma F13 in 2022, hopefully then when it comes with rim brakes and square tapper... then I'm all in!!!
@@JayB-lz6yd I know... Stupid, I do not think so. Silly, maybe. Sarcastic definitely ;). I was being facetious about the "innovations" that come and go... Like the very bad idea to make press-fit BB in a molded carbon piece (that is unless you do not expect a BB to last more than one season and consider a $5000 frame a disposable item that should not last longer than a smartphone)... In the more than 40 years I ride I have seen only 3 game-changing innovations: 1. Clip on pedals (mid-80's), 2. Brifters (early 90's) and 3. Many more cassette cogs with pins, ramps and narrow flexible chains for smooth shifting (still ongoing)... the dozens of other "innovations" have been pretty much details and marketing games... Regarding disk brakes, the jury is still out but when Shimano DuraAce Di2 disk cost 10 times more and weighs the same as 105 mechanical with rim brakes, I am not so convinced it is such a wonderful innovation (though certainly good for business)...
Just built one up in the shop, took me 4 hours, the routing from the handlebar to the junction was a absolute pain. Also because of the multiple bends within the handlebar meant shifting is not the best, at all.. So di2 it is.
Thank you for creating this very informative video. Unfortunately the majority of the dealers I have spoken to say that the only bar / stem you can use is The Talon Ultra which is a load of BS!
So when and how do you cut the steerer tube? Do you pull the forks out once the cables are installed? Won't the cables be in the way when you try to slide the forks back in?
Sooo.. how do you replace the headset bearings without cutting the brake hoses every time? In the end paying more for the hose inserts again and possibly brake bleeding as well. Just seeing it from a mechanics point of view..
Every time they release a new product, they show the numbers on the graph, and they show the improved performance, but it doesn't mean much unless we're players. I bought F8 and have been riding well so far. However, if there is no significant change in F8 shape without any major change, Pinarello will not be considered in the forthcoming purchase.
I prefer the two piece bar... one can fine tune the brake handle and bar angle. The one piece bar is limited. I have both. I cannot angle the brake hoods to match the angle of the arms and wrists.
Really? Looked like he was on top of it. looks like a great day in the garage to me, cycling on the TV, nice cup of coffee and spanners and Allen keys all over the place, happy days! Suppose if you're not into the mechanical aspect of cycling then it would probably be a pain in the arse though....
Groupe mécanique sur Pinarello F12 pas top trop complexe à monter moi j'ai un Gan RS monte en sram AXS beaucoup plus simple et c'est a plus de gueule sinon super vidéo merci à toi mécanicien
These cables are for the mechanical derailleurs (front and rear). The cable housing stop here, after going through the stem. Housing are holded in the metal part, and cable go through the frame, to the bottom bracket
As a former professional team mechanic, I can say that the F12 has been designed with marginal gains at world tour level in mind. Just like the Dogma range of the past to present, it's a race frame & so justified at the highest level to be less straight forward to work on in the cabling department. In the real world for anyone other than a professional rider, it could be seen as not to be worth the drawbacks in building, especially over the cheaper & equally very impressive F8 & F10.
One cutting the outer gear casing at 3.00 - 3.10 & 7.20 - 7.30 the inner wires should be pulled back through to make sure of a smooth operation, before fitting the ferruls. & zero grease used anywhere :-( It's very disappointing to see a Pinarello video not do this build correctly.
Go custom. Have just ordered I nice roadbike in 4130 steel. I'm pissed about the fragility of carbon. Had a Cracked head tube after hitting a pot hole. Why pay a lot of money in shitty fragile 5 years only (if you don't crash early) usable bikes (manufacturers don't guarantee more due to resin stuff going brittle)? Just go custom, not cheap, but it's worth it.
Ma stiamo parlando di uno strumento destinato a far divertire chi lo usa oppure di un’auto celebrazione per giustificare con sofismi inutili il prezzo di una Fiat 500...?
