4K HDR Blu Ray - Is it worth it? 

I think this deserves a revisit

Lol, i'm sitting here pretending to see the difference on a 1080p IPS panel through youtube.

Any chance for a revisit on this topic? I feel like there's a solid argument for 4k's now that the format has matured a bit.

Me watching this on my crappy monitor: "Wow! Look at the difference!"

I see no reason to abandon Blu-Rays for Streaming: 1. better video quality 2. better audio quality 3. no need for an internet connection

You should redo this now that there are so many more awesome 4k UHD Discs available on the market. I personally find the difference to be quite dramatic in many cases.

This definitely needs to be revisited. Some of the newer 4k disks are extremely impressive and the price of 4k displays have gone down alot

I know this is an older video, but let me tell you, I used the Xbox one S for my 4K movies for a full year before finally deciding to upgrade to a Panasonic 4K player. This player made such a huge difference. The Xbox did not reproduce correct blacks and was a much dimmer display overall. I think it would be great if you revisited this review with a proper player.

My family still claims to not be able to tell the difference between SD and FHD. They drive.

People who swear by streaming don't give a crap about quality.

The Lord of the Rings has arrived on 4k blu-ray. It's time to revisit this topic.

Yes, I'd like a current comparison of 4K HDR. Not saying it's much more advanced, but interested to see how far it has come.

#GoodTechnicalMorning

is there 4k Hobbit and lotr?

Five years on and streaming is still sub par when you compare it to a 4k UHD disc. This needs to be revisited. I have just gotten into buying 4k discs a year ago. On my Sony 4k HDR projector paired with the panasonic UB820, a well mastered 4k UHD disc really makes my Home Theater sing, the picture and audio quality can be absolutely mezmerizing.

It's absolutely worth it, streaming can't compete. Support physical media, folks!

hold up this aint techmoan

Not 100% related. Long Live Laserdiscs!!!!

Lets get Linus to remake this video for 2019!

You guys should do a follow up on this, Id really like to know if the quality has changed at all at this point.

Streaming beating 4k Blu-ray? Ha no way, Not everyone has internet to handle 4k Streaming let alone 1440p streaming!

I loved the GMM intro

Here's my tip for you people if you already have a large blu ray collection particularly steelbooks or special editions: ONLY upgrade movies you love and are gonna watch alot and/or movies that are gonna highly benefit with the 4k treatment i.e. Revenant, Pacific Rim, etc... TIP #2 for Special edition blu ray collectors: Buy the 4k, chuck out the dvd from your steelbook, digibook, etc and replace it with the 4k disc, and discard the 4k packaging or sell it whatever, that way you get the best of both worlds. Your steelbooks wont become obsolete and you get the best of both worlds. BOOM. That's my plan anyway.

Streaming is great for things like youtube when you want to watch something random or while multitasking. But for a serious movie experience Blu ray, 3d or 4k is the only way to go. Use quality cinema headphones if you don't have space for speaker setup as this will let you hear the subtle sounds you normally would miss. It's the small things that add the details, it's like seeing a quality photo of a person compared to seeing them in real life.

I liked and still like 3D on a TV.

Your first still on life of pi was one of my shots!!!!

Here in the UK in 2019 I can count the number of services that offer streaming of movies with HDR and Dolby Atmos on the fingers of no hands. It's 4K bluray discs for me if I want to get the most out of my equipment.

I'm pretty damn confused.. I just got back from the TV store and i saw their 4K HDR displays, i was absolutely amazed at the lifelike picture quality, never has 1080p wowed me like that at any viewing distance. How anyone couldn't immediately see the difference between 1080p and 4K is hard for me to believe.

I rather have normal BlueRays than streaming, tho its WAY to hard to play it on a PC

No rewinding VHS tapes? I stopped doing that long before DVDs. LASERDISCS!!

great review. love the comment about the transition period from each stage. I barely got into VHS and never held a collection by the time DVD came around. I immediately adopted as soon as it came out. have only been into blue-ray since about 2008 . the description of 4K UHD really helped me understand whether or not to transition into the new medium right now. Definitely a time to wait (if your not a rich , early adopter). I really hadn't noticed Blu-ray uhd vs blue ray.. will have to watch more closely on the labels

Give us a 2022 retake!

Does anyone actually buy physical media anymore because I haven't for years

We need 8K HDR with a 14 bit per channel color depth instead of 10 bit.

Your channel is very unique to what many other channel do. Really like the way you dig into things and explain to us viewers. Cheers!

Years ago I sold my vast dvd/bluray collection to a then open music/dvd store "Fye" because of streaming services. I soon learned they only have some movies and very few of what my previous collection had. Years later, I now have restored that collection and added more. I will never get rid of these movies and shows again. Many are so rare you can't find them anywhere to stream or to buy.

Online streaming is trash...unless you're practically blind and deaf.

let's talk about that? Is this GMM?

i still buy blue rays (non UHD) as i want a physical copy to put into my bookcase....no online crap can replace that...maybe im getting old....

Blu-ray capacity: 25 GB (single-layer) 50 GB (dual-layer) 100/200/300 GB (BDXL) Up to six layers are possible in a standard form BD. Not just 128 GB and 3 layers😋

I wish these reviews came with a disclaimer. You CAN'T actually see the HDR in this video. It's footage recorded from an HDR TV with a non-HDR camera, rendered into a non-HDR video, uploaded to non-HDR youtube, and you're watching it on a (presumably) non-HDR screen. That said, it leads to a question: Because the HDR footage he showed DID look better on my non-HDR monitor (let's say because the shadows were darker, the scenes didn't have as much of a blue tint etc), doesn't that mean all of those effects could have been achieved in post, by just color-correcting the bluray master? (aside from the actual HDR that we can't even see here).

Wow this HDR looks amazing

physical media will be around for a long long time it’s not going anywhere

Watching a UHD disc on my old plasma made me realize that the source material is usually the limiting factor in picture quality. They look absolutely stunning. The TV doesn't support HDR but it does support 10-bit color which gets rid of the banding and color gradation that you get from ordinary Blu-ray or most streaming content. Watching a 4K video on a 1080 screen also gives you about 95% of the detail you get on a native 4K screen at a typical seating distance - it's like 4x super-sampling.

How ironic that I'm watching a video about 4K in 144p. RU-vid just automatically set it on 144p I don't know why.

That Wii tho

Aquaman 4K is ridiculously beautiful. That’s the standard for me...

Good job on saying ABORTION one second into the video lmao.

What if Disney brought LTT

Without watching the video, my prediction: The 4K is going to depend on what you watch. A lot of digital films were mastered at something like 2k and will *never* be able to produce a 4k film. They might be upscaled, but the disc has more room for bonus content if they don't go the route of full 4k. HDR I haven't seen a monitor/TV that supports it, so I can't comment on the full colour spectrum it produces. EDIT: After watching the video: seems about right, though how much of the difference is HDR and how much comes to the producers simply trying to make a better grade is still a bit of an uncertainty to me.

Not a huge upgrade by any means, but is worth spending the extra money if you're shopping to replace a TV that died.

They need to bring back THX Certified for these Blu-rays...so they can monitor the quality of these discs!!

I literally was about to buy a 4K hdr. You sold me that we aren't ready

You forgot one of the biggest benefits: 4K Blu-Ray disks are *REGION FREE!!!* This is awesome for people into foreign films.

Please do an updated version of this video! :) You (and your team) rock.

Unfortunately this review is DEEPLY FLAWED: XBox One S blu ray player outputs color INCORRECTLY to display. Watch any review on Xbox One S as a blu ray player. Also, the console has no Dolby Vision support - the dominant HDR format in films. This analysis needs to be redone!

I'd be amazed to see a 128GB movie streamed over US internet Lol

Didn't know I was watching GMM...

Linus should come back to this, I've been buying a lot of UHD Blu-Rays during the lock down, and I notice a big difference between disk and streaming, also get a dedicated player for the redo, I suggest the Panasonic UB820 or a UB9000 if your a baller.

Cable boxes still give you tiling and noise and 4k streaming isnt a pure picture either..Blu-ray is still king in 2019

so buy my 4k OLED next xmas. got it.

I don't care for 4k...but HDR is a big deal. I have no 100 inch OLED.

I started jumping into bluray in 2007 with my first bluray for Xmas which was pirates 3. Dvd in Xmas 2000. 3d in 2012. VHS in 80s. Digital HD in 2013.

"HDR Effect" is just for SDR content to try and replicate HDR. For changing settings in the real HDR mode you first need to put on HDR content and THEN adjust. In other words: The native HDR settings are not avaliable in the meny before actually putting on HDR content. So there is a few flauds in this test..

Good video and agree with the conclusion..... however, you did choose just about the worst player... I've looked at the Xbox One S side by side with my Panasonic DMP-UB900 on my LG 950V 65" OLED and the Panasonic blows it out of the water. The Xbox One S tends to over-saturate the colours compared to a "reference" player like the Panasonic DMP-UB900 and misses out on subtle features such as 4:4:4 chroma upscaling. Sound is also a bit of a joke from the Xbox where you are limited to PCM output rather taking the disk's bitstream directly to the amp. The biggest issue with UHD right now is the disks where a great many are poor conversions. I'm sure the ratio of good to bad disks will improve over time as the studios learn how to get the most from the format. You have to remember the dynamic range offered here is even better than you get at the cinema, so this is new ground for the disk graders. I really do hope that the format takes off, as this is my only option for 4K / UHD - living in a rural area with a maximum of 3 Mb/s internet connectivity, online 4K streaming is not an option! Even if it were, online 4K / UHD is just horrible and standard Blu-Ray blows it out of the water in a side-by-side comparison. This would be a good comparison for you guys to do - show the masses what they are missing with terrible streaming quality!

is Linus GMM now?

Its 2019 now. ... time revisit

4k is worth it.. I love 4k. Quality matters!

Before you dismiss 3D, it's an amazing experience on the LG OLEDs. Check out Life of Pi, Avatar, or Pacific Rim.

i don't think 4k will make spiderman 2 any better

Would be interested to see this video get an update now that we are in 2023 and OLED’s are also more affordable (still expensive but not like even 3-4 years ago)

Time to re-shot this video. Streaming 4k is worst than it used to be 3 years ago. lots of data stream caps in place. You could be wired to 600mbps and Netflix will stream a 4k movie at 20mbps. Same for most apps

I'd rather have increased frame rates where possible rather than 4k. And for HDR, you are gonna need a really decent OLED TV for that, I know when I went from CRT to LCD the colour depth was a huge downgrade especially when watching films that have dark scenes, the contrast was between light and dark was just missing entirely. I think HDR for the most part where films are considered is a bit of a gimmick, what matters is the display itself, sure more colour depth is always good but only if the TV is good enough to display it.

09:29 , it's finally revealed, he's canadian.

This deserves a 2020 revisit considering tech has improved, films have improved etc. BTW there are still very few PC BD-XL drives that can read 4K bluray not only that but to watch 4K bluray via a PC is still very complicated (ie, Intel picky secure hardware and PowerDVD requiring such secure hardware)

2019 and I'm still watching. Enjoying them bluray on my One X

Omg the "Why was PS4 not an option Sony?" made me laugh so much!!

As an owner of an LG E6 OLED Tv, I feel the need to say that UHD and HDR are totally worth the upgrade. The Revenant on 4K Blu Ray is a revelation, and looks far superior to the standard Blu Ray at any setting. The same is true for many other films in my collection, such as Kingsman and Mad Max: Fury Road. RU-vid can't accurately show the benefits of HDR.

2020 now, been comparing streaming 4k vs discs... and the definitive answer (for me) is YES. Disc based media is superior.

"Amazing Spider-Man 2 was our low point" Dammit, even just for 4K viewing this movie sucks.

#LinusAlmostOnTimeTips

Your new thumbnails continue to be eye-catching. Personally I've caught 3 times as many videos from you lately because of these thumbnails. Nice work! You should take this strategy to your other channels, too!

2:29 spelling error it is supposed to be The Revenant

Please revisit this now in 2020.

I prefer 4K Dolby Atmos. Besides, why not buy 4K instead of standard Blu-ray when they now come together. You can upgrade at anytime.

Linus.. Do an update on this including the benefits of Dolby ATMOS..

If I remember correctly, the reason for the color difference between the two versions of The Revenant is that the standard version is in Rec708, which assumes a warmer display, meaning a cooler video, and the HDR version is in DCI-P3.

One problem, not everyone wants to fiddle with settings just to get an HDR experience. You have to factor in that an HDR tv with HDR blu ray automativally produces the better colors. While you can simulate it with blue ray, you'll gave to re do any corrections every time the white balance or color grading changes

"ridonculous speaker setup" guess that's me 😂😂

I've chosen to "wait" for the new Holodeck ( like in Star Trek: The next generation) to come in the near future

Random note: One of the best (clearly there are other reasons I watch) things about your videos is that: when I'm casting to my TV, the colouring ALWAYS reminds me to te-adjust my TV set colour settings if they have for some reason defaulted back or been changed to something else, in particular the incorrect, vibrant factory defaults. I often find the factory settings are best viewing for regular broadcast TV here in Australia and the settings best for movies are also best for your videos. Makes sense I guess given most of the viewers of your videos probably optimise their TVs settings. Haha (Either that or your skin is ACTUALLY this weird two tone orange/brown, but I'm pretty sure you're as white as I am lol)

There needs to be a follow up video on this, as Linus has upgraded to 2020 hardware for 4k uhd.

That Nintendo Wii still in use

Proof that Amazing Spider-Man 2 was disappointing on every single level

Linus Tech Tips, you should do a revisit to this video. I bought a Sony UBP-X700 and I dont regret it. Today's streaming services cant compete with UHD Blu Rays.

3D bluray works quite nicely in VR. Maybe that should get a revisit?

My dad had bought a 4k movie player because our rental store had 4k movies and we haven’t used it since the rental store shut down.

I'd be interested in a 2017 update on this video. 4K HDR Blu Ray in 2017: Are we there yet?

It also depends on whether your esoteric movies will ever be released on 4k, even foregoing disc and being stream-only. I'm surprised some of my faves even made it to blu-ray (Rock & Rule, Heavy Metal, Watership Down).

This NEEDS to be revisited.