It can also happen if the torque converter wasn't seated to the flex plate properly. Ive seen this happen a thousand times. An installer will tighten the bolts on the torque converter but the torque converter isn't sitting flush on the flex plate. If you're lucky you can tighten the bolts and all is well. If it's leaking then it's gotta come out and have the pump redone because the bushing is trashed.
I personally have never seen a transmission bolt up to the engine if the torque converter is not in its proper place it's just it just will not happen if that torque converter doesn't slide in its pins or in the notches whatever you term you want to use there's no way you're gonna bolt the bellhousing to the block firmly clean it just aint gonna happen
Yep, that happened to me. I bought a Daewoo Espero with a bearing knock and drove it home. I removed the engine and rebuilt it. After we inserted the engine the car would start but not drive, turns out I crushed those 2 notches for the oil pump. I went to a automatic gearbox shopp and they pulled out a gear from another gearbox for me.
If torque converter is not set back all the way, you simply can't close the gap between motor and transmission. Add some fluid in the converter is a good idea.
Fr had a buddy who got mad as hell bc he said the torque converter wasn’t the right one because he can’t bolt up the tranny… came over slid the converter in another half an inch from where he had it an told him all done… he couldn’t believe he spent 3 hours fumbling under the car clueless when I only spent 3 min turning the converter to the right spot
Oh yes it is possible, maybe not with every vehicle, but I went through this situation myself. It was late, I was tired, in a hurry, and I wanted to get my transmission in and done. Didn’t fully check the TC fit but it spun by hand. I remembered when putting the TC nuts on ( it was a f150) that was taking too much effort to spin the crank but it all bolted up and had no gap. As soon as it started there was this horrible screeching noise and shut it off immediately and in the end I got lucky, put it all back in the right way. The crank spin a lot easier, no more noise and haven’t had any issues since
When I went to school the transmission teacher used to always say if you don't hear two clicks from your torque converter it's not on right and you will destroy it if you try to install it this way.. take it apart and start over till you hear two clicks..
@@BradleyRudi that's a first for me.. and then again, I only did transmissions for half a dozen years. Before My old Lady had enough of this shit under my fingers nails, trying to finger me.. WTF do you not mind the bills being paid? We All have to do Things we don't want to
@jeffwolf8018 I've even been told by a shop .. that thier hands tend to be " softer " cuz of the Trans fluid.. Trans oil keeps the seals soft and pliable.. as so with your skin. 🤷♂️
You can absolutely bolt up a Turboglide with the front pump not properly indexed. Nothing shears, and the friction of the torque converter pressing hard up against the front pump will actually turn it enough to develop enough pressure to back the car out and run it a little but the force pressint against the front pump is so large it quicky grinds it to a pulp and you're stuck.
This is how I learned. Took me 2 months working once a week to repair my transmission on a 4x4. And I still had it in the air when I went to test the gears. And I put it in drive and the rear wheels didn’t move. So I just called it a night. It took me 2-3 weeks the second time around. Lol. But I had to do the labor again to put in a pump rebuild kit and seat the torq converter properly and the truck ran great until 3/4 clutchpack went out some 3-4 yrs later.
My solution to that is to make up a pipe that has the appropriate notches in the correct place that will show you where the notches should go. You can then mark it then wiggle the TC back and forth slightly and it should drop right in. Good mechanics should know this a long time.
The best way to know if youre in deep enough, measure air gap. 1/8" to 3/16". Or.....measure with a straight edge, torque converter pad to bellhousing edge will be roughly 1 1/8". away.
I'm a builder. It happens alot more than you think. The other problem is installers not seating the torque converter to the flywheel. And that takes out the pump bushing immediately or eventually.
Been lucky anytime someone messed that up the flex plate was wedged on the torque convertor so you couldn't spin it for the bolts. That would be a nightmare to tell management
I was thinking of swapping out my automatic transmission DPS6 for a manual but I guess it’s way more expensive and complicated to do ? 16 Ford Focus SE 2.5 L
The first time i put my engine and transmission in my car i was going off what i thought looked right, boy was i wrong, i bolted the torque converter to the flex plate and then mounted the transmission, after i got everything in place and fluids all filled back up the car wouldnt even spin over with a bar on the ring gear of the converter. So i had to take it all back apart and then watch a video to see how you really mount an automatic transmission to an engine
I have a nissan juke, there is no way to reach the screws connecting torque converter and flywheel, i was doing this work at my home, I removed every connected wire to the transmission and subframe, I dried the oil i took the subframe off with everything connected to it, using a jacklift for easy fall I removed the shock absorbers, And axels I put a jack under the transmission oil pan I removed the gearbox mounts I removed 9 screws Took it down after prying the casing Replaced broken parts Had problem in alignment Returning transmission to its location Putting 1 screw in each corner and tighten it enough to put pressure, Went to crankshaft pulley used a breaker bar to move it, and i felt the alignment as i got less pressure in turning it, tried to turn it a few times to feel assured, tighten screws and putting the remaining once and After a test it's working! Thankfully
@shoplifetv, I have a vw touareg but the torque converter keeps getting eaten up on one side thus causing the leakage. What could be the issue?? Thanks
So why do the prongs get sheared if not seated? If they’re strong enough to not be sheared if seated how is more force being applied when not seated? When you start the vehicle the only force being applied to the flex plate is the torque the engine produces at high idle. With the transmission not in gear all you’re doing is spinning the pump
I got an aftermarket reman torque converter that i bolted up and i ended having to get longer bolts and spacers because i literally had over half an inch gap, i can see how it could of easily be installed wrong if i didnt have it on the pump it still would of bolted up and had proper end play.
Don't you generally want to hear too good clicks to know it's in properly? At least that's the way they taught us back in 89 when I went to an auto tech school
Ive just spend the last 2 days ripping a gearbox and tcase off a car because i put the clutch backwards 🙂 it even fucking says flywheel side on it. Shits heavy
