Don’t Listen to Andrew Huberman About this Fitness Advice 

Which is also one of Dr. Huberman's strong points. I'd like to hear them talk - and disagree about everything. It's funny how the most humble people have the least reason to be.

He said Huberman didn't know what he was talking about several times. I think it's the definition of dismissing someone for being wrong. And where did he give him credit? Did you actually watch the video?

It’s sad that more recently a lawyer was bullied to take down his video over legal analysis drama over video games. The bullying involved insults and dismissal because the lawyer was working with faulty information.

@@Edmond347 did you miss the entire intro where he explained Huberman is credited neuroscientist and has done a lot of good in his area? This whole video is now about Andrew being outside his scope of competence and that's the area Brian is saying Andrew doesn't know what he's talking about.

Calling it absolute utter nonsense is pretty dismissive imo

The problem is that Huberman is using his cred to talk about topics that are more and more outside of his expertise - and regular people perceive him as an scientific oracle. Not to mention he is pandering from time to time to pseudocience (like grounding).

​@@thenoideamanExactly, he also implies that the supplements he shils are evidence based.

You're missing the point buddy. Good on you that you're discerning but these people run their mouth about shit that they dont know about because they're "credible" in other areas...

He did have a three part series with Dr. Andy Galpin who is an exercise scientist that had some good information, but that’s probably because he had the right expert on that podcast

Listen to dr. Mike from Renaissance periodization he is a phd in sports physiologically he's actually brilliant and super funny and educational. 👍

One of the most fundamentals anyone who finishes a PhD should know is just how much they don't know. Anyone who comes out the other end talking like Huberman does is an instant red flag for me. A scientist who is confident about every claim they make and states everything as if it is fact is most often a bad scientist and potentially just a con-artist.

Well put.

I would take everything out of his range of expertise with a grain of salt. That's a good lesson in general. He spoke some absolute nonsense about hairloss for example as well.

You should always take everything a *salesman* says with a grain of salt. @@ballislife9924

​@ballislife9924 I was about to say, I trust him on the stuff he's actually an expert in but the other stuff not as much, same as I trust a mechanic to fix my car but probably not fix me

Absolutely true you should take anything out of his area of expertise of with a grain of salt. I'm an upper year uni student heavily involved in extracurricular academics and I can say for a fact you'd be stunned how little many PHDs know outside of their field as part of their job is to be the absolute top of their respective field but that often means sacrificing curiosity in other areas for specificity in a single one. On top of that even within that field most PHDs or even (although much less so) Drs are only truly experts in one specific subset of that field, the rest of their knowledge of the field are things anyone with enough curiosity and dedication could learn from either the internet or undergrad uni courses for 2-4 years. As a result even within their respective realms of academics anyone is still liable to be out of their depth when they reach out of their sub-domain and it'd be quite easy to find an expert in that other sub-domain with a completely different opinion or approach. The main thing to look out for when taking in information from online experts are the classic fallacies "cure all's" for age old conditions, far reaching results i.e. fixing your IBS will stop you getting cancer or something and theb lastly off the top of my head conflicting interests

That butterfly style always freaks me out re: ACL, MCL strains

Felt the one on the butterflies as a retired hockey player as well

Yup. Butterfly pushes and vh/RVH are killer tib movements. Mine jut out pretty well when I flex em. But when I'm lying down relaxing, my feet and ankles flop

It's almost like the size of a muscle has nothing to do with its ability to relax when not being engaged...

Yeah my feet fall too and I would bet my tibs are stronger then his being a goalie also

Sobering for sure. Sad to see Huberman the latest culprit

@@djbolt178 its called doing a Jordan Peterson.

EXACTLY! 👏🏿@@SpencerDonahue

Great book about this called, "The Intelligence Trap: Why Smart People Do Stupid Things and How to Avoid Them" that covers this in more depth. I will add the caveat though that it is ok for someone with a PhD to venture out into areas in which they aren't an expert, as long as they properly understand and convey that they know they aren't an expert and actively look for feedback from experts in the field. However, Huberman of course does not approach it this way and instead presents himself as the expert on all of these subjects which he simply can't be.

@@djbolt178 Jordan Peterson is a classic "high IQ con-artist" as I like to call them. Obviously smart, but has spent his entire life overpowering people with quick words and emotional arguments that he's become convinced that those are the same as reasonable conversation and discussion. You come across this type every once in a while in academia, and while they are normally disliked within academia as it is easy to see through their crap with a certain level of education, they are often quite popular to the general public. Historically, many (but not all) of the most famous scientists in the eyes of the public have been pretty poor thinkers in the eyes of academia. Jordan Peterson, Huberman, and Bill Nye are the three that immediately come to mind. Lots of great science podcasts and communicators out there who convey great information, but the most popular often become peddlers of bad info.

Do you know how to do this ?

Andrew Hubrisman

hater

Yep, first time I saw a Huberman video on working out I thought is he stupid, or am I?

Totally agree.

Agreed. There’s a group of these very smart and intelligent guys who are on every podcast spouting ‘knowledge’ on an array of subjects and acting as if they’re some form of life coach and you gotta follow their routines to become elite like them 🙄

He’s not an influencer. Just because you disagree or wrong. Don’t discredit him. Much smarter than both of us

​@@Antshealth He's smart, but he's also being a con. Stop it

​@@Antshealth He's smart, but he's also being a con. Stop it

Hey this Doctor Brian here isn't an expert either. Please watch the video again with no emotion and listen to the words of everyone carefully, watch Brians facial expressions.

@@robertdealz29kholy shit dude, you’re like the biggest Hubes fan ever. You’re in every single comment thread like his pitbull. If you’re that emotionally invested in Huberman that you can’t even handle a vid critiquing him, maybe you oughta ask yourself why?

@@robertdealz29kso an actual orthopedic doctor isn’t an expert? You’re just wrong and clueless. Good luck with that

Yes he is not an expert. Look at his frail body. And by his facial expressions and tones he is clearly hating on Andrew@@srsr28 This Man is jealous and clout chasing

@@robertdealz29kyou are a clueless Huberman fan boy 😂

It was not respectful or or professional. Read my main comment, and rewatch the video.

Fanboi detected.@@robertdealz29k

It's almost like, if you exercise muscles in one direction you have to exercise muscles in the counter direction for balance..... 🤔

I mean it can be a solution for pain in a lot of cases, however not all cases. Pain is complicated and can be caused by a million different things.

It helps a whole lot. Try not to hate so much and entertain the possibility that Huberman may be on to something.

KneesOverToesGuy uses as part of his programme that helps with his knee pain, I believe KNOTG suggests that strengthening the tibs will help prevent knee pain. Check it out.

So are you saying that if the anterior tibialis is inhibited and there is a muscular imbalance bw the posterior compartment and the anterior compartment that in a resting state the ankle won’t be more plantar flexed? That this can’t affect the biomechanics at the ankle joint and therefore up the kinetic chain to the knee and cause abnormal loading patterns at the knee and possibly knee pain?

ironic considering his title is full of buzzwords

@MrFreshApplesauce know what the difference is? This guy is qualified to talk about the topic. Since when are any words in the title a buzzword?

u dumb

I'm confused, how is his logic flawed? Doesn't your post support his claims (which he learned from other experts)?

@@jonk8983you can have false/flawed logic and still arrive at the correct conclusion.

Thank you for your detailed explanation. It was very helpful.

If he didn't, I don't know who else could or would on this platform. These 2 channels probably share many subscribers.

Scotty Kilmer vibes

​@@fusnowtigerScotty catching strays even on this part of RU-vid. 😂😂😂

Wasn’t he on Rogan? seems like everyone on Rogan the last several years is a grifter/snake oil salesman. If they’re not like a comedian or fighter 😂

Tough to be a snake oil salesman when you don’t sell anything my friend

@@bigb29952995sells podcast sponsors. Are you daft? 😂 well, you do listen to snake oil salesmen..

I’m pretty sure I have that movie on vhs

DR Katt Sutter🤭

And he eats hello fresh too 😅

It's actually science vs BS.

Ben Patrick..Knees over Toes Guy

And he will invite you on so you can tell everyone including himself where he is wrong an will make sure you get credit for telling him he as wrong as he did with Layne Norton when Layne called him out and corrected him...

That’s true, he could very much mean well. But just because you mean well, doesn’t mean you shouldn’t be firmly held accountable.

Great comment

Did Dr. Huberman ever corrected any of this wrong information? It tells all there is to know about him if he's a "bad" guy or not.

You should stick to science. Your woo woo stuff isn't replicable for other people.

How do you know that this guy isn't lying as well? Also Huberman was not selling anything, his point is that movement is medicine. Working out is free

This is the comment I was looking for. I’m a Huberman fan but recognize when he talks out of his ass, I don’t share opinion with him a few items. That being said I don’t believe the video reply is accurate. Cal Dietz of UMinnesota speaks out on the importance of having very strong feet, and how a weakness(spring ankle exercises > tib raises) in an athlete through that foot leads to compensation patterns and your brain finds a place for the load to be dispersed in other joints up the kinetic chain in a matter of milliseconds. An unstable foot might lead to hip/glute/core firing pattern dysfunction over time, it’s very possible this could help sciatica, knee pain, and aid in running ability… I think there is value in the idea even anecdotally speaking, it’s unfortunate that when you’re at Huberman’s level you really have to consider everything you say and have evidence based research to back it’d otherwise this sort of advice comes with being dogged on by peers. I think it would be more beneficial to the doc to explore literature review and entertain the possibility rather than making content exposing him as a guru for advocating an exercise. It’s kind of contradictory in a way.

more people should read these comments here.

Overtraining is a myth @@missioncodez

I'm with you! I feel like he took him out of context. He wasn't encouraging people to go do tib work, he was saying with my extensive workout routine I still had pain until I started to work my tibs. Which like you said could have been the weakness in the kinetic chain. Once that was corrected the body adapted and changed how muscles fired and no more pain. Now I do see how the doc got annoyed when he said the part about being in bed and the feet flopping. That part was a complete reach so yes spank him for that but the rest is possible.

What should they discuss about, this is his expertise not huberman’s. Obvious 3d explanation was not enough for you maybe.

@@maymunistahli502 Dr. Huberman got outside of his lane and made some statements with seeming confidence that were incorrect. I would be curious to see a discussion of where he got the information and how even a trained medical doctor can take information at face value and regurgitate it without fully understanding. I would be curious if Dr. Huberman would want to try to back up his statements in the face of these critiques or if he would be open to changing his mind. That may not be interesting to you. But it would be interesting to me.

its diet i've never had knee problems

You didn’t create your problems by strengthening your calves. You would have inherently strengthened many muscles while you did this.

I knew he was talking about Ben Patrick he just wasn’t stating it clearly

Maybe it’s more preventative?

There are videos on RU-vid explaining that you cannot regrow (knee) cartilage with exercise and diet. Cartilage doesn’t have its own blood supply, which significantly reduces its ability to heal. Even surgery even has it's limits. The procedure called autologous chondrocyte implantation (ACI) takes healthy cartilage cells from the damaged knee, cultures them in a lab for four to six weeks, and then injects the new cells into the damaged joint for regeneration with the surrounding cartilage. This minimally invasive procedure is an option for some patients who have one or two areas of isolated cartilage loss, which occurs over time. Patients with more extensive damage may require knee replacement. Surely Huberman should know this.

Walking backwards and tib raises won’t save yours knees alone man. You need to progress and use load and other lifts to actually strengthen your knee.

Have you tried altering your foot strike?

100 percent he will invite anyone on that is an expert that claims he is wrong...As he did with Layne Norton..So expecting to see these two talking soon

Huberman has been very good about staying humble and admitting when he is wrong. Just because he has someone on his show also doesn't mean he is promoting everything they say.

This feels more like a "you people are too stupid to think for yourselves so let me be your daddy" video....Until these two are on a podcast together that is how i see it....experts constantly screaming about regular Joes offering advice and expecting everyone will listen and do what they say like lemmings

Yea it was that. It’s still somewhere on my channel, just search for it.

@@BrianSuttererMD found it. Dereks video was how i found your channel in the first place actually