DON'T BUY FILTERS FOR YOUR ACTION CAMERA! WATCH THIS FIRST!

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DON'T BUY FILTERS FOR YOUR ACTION CAMERA! WATCH THIS FIRST!
In this video I show you why you should be buying filters for your Action Camera.
Whether you own a GoPro or DJi Action, or Insta 360, Filters have a negative affect on the footage you will capture. Watch the video to find out why!
We show you real world examples with ND Filters, UV filters and Polarizing Filters, showing you exactly why you should not be using them on your action cam!
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@Bokooda Год назад

The title's slightly misleading, though the explanation and demos look sound for video, ND filters do have there place when using the 'Photo's' mode - I've seen some decent long (max 30sec length on this camera) exposure waterfall and river images taken with the Action 3 and even some landscape photography. And whilst they're not DLSR level, and its obviously not the 'main' purpose of the action camera - if you've only got one camera with you, thats the one you'll have to use - video or photos. Thanks for taking the time to show us this stuff 👍

@TheCameraManReviews Год назад

That is a very good point! I didn't even think about the photo side of the camera. I am going to pin your comment! Thank you for pointing this out Bokooda.

@EXIGENCES Год назад

I also only use filter for photo mode where without the filter I would not be able to achieve such photo effect. May need to make another video based on filter for photo mode.

@having-fun-while-i-can Год назад

I have a milkyway picture from my osmo action 1. No ND filters.

@ScruffyMisguidedAndBlue 3 месяца назад

Yeah, I hate the misleading clickbait title. It is fair enough for @TheCameraManReviews to point out the use cases that don't work with certain filters, the segment on the stabilisation was very useful, but to dismiss the filters entirely isn't helpful.

@michelleweintraub945 2 месяца назад

ND filters might not be good if you’re taking a video where you are moving with the camera, however if the camera is not moving then you wouldn’t have to worry about stabilization and an ND filter would be beneficial.

@JerryRomineStocks 4 месяца назад

Great video and explanations. Thank you.

@tr3ynag4ta 2 дня назад

I think the UV part wasn't a fair example because the clouds hinder its effectiveness. It would have been nice to test it in an environment, such as when the sun is out and cloud-free sky to make a demonstration! But this was a excellent video! Have this in my favorites for reference and research!

@TomGlander Год назад

Excellent information. Thank you.

@TriniWeekes Год назад

You had some really great points there. Thanks for sharing. I will like a proper explanation on using NDPL filters on my drone and what does it mean to film 90 degrees to the sun when using these filters for best image quality

@PatchedBandit 4 месяца назад

Only good video I have found about this issue online. Excellent!

@avalonnorth 5 месяцев назад

My filters arrived today and I get to see this video this evening. Your video is very helpful since I now know when not to use filters and when I can, such as in photography (information from the comments). None-the-less, great information on this topic and other topics from your other video. I'm a big fan. Thanks.

@MatthiasLenardt Год назад

Wonderful share!!!!!

@danzuelch 4 месяца назад

Thank you for teaching us this.

@stevenpitts376 Год назад

Awesome video man 😊 really appreciate it

@santoslagunaacademydallasf9395 23 дня назад

Makes a lot of sense! Thank you for sharing!

@Olafgolafpop1 Год назад

Actually, what you said about the UV filters is exactly reason why I DO buy them. They have zero effect but still protect my lenses from scratches. If something bad happens, I prefer to change a filter for 30 dollar rather than a lense for 500$.

@maxl6058 11 месяцев назад

If you want protection buy yourself camera butter lens shield, it would be much better option

@SimoWill75 10 месяцев назад

@@maxl6058 Sure, If you have a GoPro 5 to 9, what about all those people that don't? UV filters have been used as lens protectors for decades for a reason. Simple, effective and inexpensive.

@marks7171 11 месяцев назад

Cpl filters are good to use when filming hyperlapses of sunsets, particularly when water is involved. Good video mate

@johnkilmerstone Год назад

When riding my motorcycle, I always turn off stabilization. I use a handlebar, chest, or helmet mount so on smooth highways and roads I can benefit from having ND filters to get the natural blur of the surroundings. ND filters still have a role to play depending on their application. You made some great points though.

@v.a.8602 3 месяца назад

I learned something again. Thanks!

@formfaktor 9 месяцев назад

so helpful!! thanks!!

@TheCameraManReviews 9 месяцев назад

You're welcome!!

@embers-cotswold-walks Месяц назад

Thanks for this. Was almost 'seduced' by the blurb into buying filters for my gopro but after your video (& others) will save my pennies. I love my gopros & their versatility but do understand that they have limitations ..... wont stop me trying to push their boundaries tho! Thanks again.

@SparkySenor Месяц назад

A really informative video, thank you

@leewinter28 4 месяца назад

Excellent video! Very informative about the relationship of filters and internal stabilization of action cameras!

@TheCameraManReviews 3 месяца назад

Glad it was helpful!

@stephenburford54 Год назад

Very interesting, thanks

@MrRoskoPeko Год назад

Great video. You just saved me $$ as I was considering getting ND filters.

@walkwithyan 5 месяцев назад

yup. this makes sense. thanks. 😊

@JuttGerman.92 3 месяца назад

Great Video with best explination One Question I record my driving videos and i mostly record with S 24 Ultra my question is will ND filters help me there for better quality or i should use normal camera for videos while driving. sorry for my bad english

@iamcheck.thisout 9 месяцев назад

the best video explaning this topic! I almost wasted my money on these filter.. You got my sub in exchange for teaching me those knowhow and saving me money!

@TheCameraManReviews 9 месяцев назад

Thanks for the sub!

@phoenixvideos Год назад

OMG I have been messing with settings for months trying to figure out why it's totally fine when on the tripod and gets all jittery when I'm moving. Thank you so much!!!

@hunglongdee2587 4 месяца назад

Thank you sir, you just saved me some money =)

@helder4u Год назад

If I may add: there should be a big difference between a circular-polarized (CPL) kind and a plain 90 degrees kind of polarized filters. The plain kind should be much more sensitive to orientation and incoming angle of light, while the cpl kind should not matter much - but I have not compared them myself- maybe You are able to do it for us?

@Mission2plus2 Год назад

Thanks! This is the best illustration on shutter rule I have seen so far and most practical (& honest) take on filters.

@mtbboy1993 11 месяцев назад

I use Nd filters, but I use it on super sunny days, I have 3 ND filters from Polar Pro. I see what works and use it for those conditions. The skies are not as blown out. Of course shady areas suffer a bit, so using the right filter or setting is a must. So then I can recover the shadows and skies.Of course with overcast I don't have a filter on.

@hasyourgulaggotplanningper2459 4 месяца назад

Excellent video and critique. I'd only comment that if you use your action cam in scenarios where the camera doesn't move a lot (like it did on your bumpy path), then using an ND filter and restricting shutter speed to say 1/400 would make for a better look. I particularly dislike the choppy high frame rate. It's very unsettling. I use mine when sailing - so the camera usually has plenty of light, limited shake, etc

@grahamjones7070 Год назад

That's great. I was about to buy a ND 1000 for my action 3, won't bother now.👍

@having-fun-while-i-can Год назад

You would get nice nighttime pictures with that. It's a great way to naturally erase people from your shots at night and during the day.

@tuanphan8110 27 дней назад

Amazing content. Thank you.

@TheCameraManReviews 18 дней назад

Glad you enjoyed it!

@borisborisov500 2 месяца назад

Thanks dude. You saved me a bunch of cash. Great stuff

@KateMalinovskaya 2 месяца назад

thanks for the video

@Scott-qd6fs Месяц назад

A big one you did not mention, most camera lenses are specialised glass (the good ones are) so having bought this expensive lense you then put an inferior bit of glass in front of it, UV for protection makes sense but the glas has to be comparable to the lense.

@jaysun070476 Год назад

I noticed my osmo 3 has. Smaller lens opening then my hero 7. Is it really a 2.8 arpeture ?or is it a typo? Seems more like a 3.8 At iso 800 the osmo is almost complety black screen while the hero can see light. I found several typos in the manual. It said to download the dji fly app to register the camera lol?? My osmo is from 9/22 the hero 7 is also 12mp with a 2.8 arpeture

@tyrausfarrelly6257 3 месяца назад

What's your thoughts on red and magenta filters for underwater video >3m? Thanks, very informative.

@AntaresSQ01 2 месяца назад

This is not exactly correct... This is only an issue in hard mounted solutions. Any body mounted solutions don't get high frequency vibrations and you're only worried about keeping the image in frame. The smoother motion blur is way more critical for good looking action shots especially with high-speed moving shots (MTB, motorcycle, snowboarding/skiing).

@AC-Ninja 7 месяцев назад

This was very informative.. I currently do not use the stabilization feature so I want to try the ND filter anyways but great info

@TheCameraManReviews 7 месяцев назад

Glad it was helpful!

@Tobi123Tobs 15 дней назад

well ok... if you only want to use the stabilisation software of the action cam and no post processing then all seen here is correct. But for me.. if you want best video ... set your cam to resolution and view angle so that it is recording gyro data, use ND Filter if you want to have this motion blur and set shutter speed to 2* of FPS... then record... and post processing -> use Gyroflow for example to stabilize all later -> like that I have motion blur and stable video. If your cam is able to record 10bit material -> then I would maybe try this before buying ND filters . Record 10bit and use post processing with for example "da Vinci" to add for example motion blur, edit your video to the end product you want... or use easily a "LUT" to get some great results out of it, without using ND filters

@profitglen 2 месяца назад

Great info and thanks for sharing. But you only tested using ND filters with lots of movement. I am assuming with low movement, such as walking, that there is very little difference in stabilization between using or not using ND filters on an Action cam. So really, the only one we may need is the UV filter just to protect the lens. And look at all of these RU-vidr influencers praising all of the filter sets to pad their wallets.

@TheCameraManReviews 2 месяца назад

That is true, the path I rode on is extremely bumpy, far worse than it looks. Whilst walking or keeping the camera more stable you will of course get away with lower SS. 🙂

@mickholgate3347 Месяц назад

Filters definitely have their place and purpose in both DSLR and Action cameras. Sure they are not a one size fits all but they do make your camera much more flexible due to the locked aperture. I see them as a very handy tool to have in your arsenal. Q. How would you take a daytime version of a nightlapse? The only way that i know possible is with a ND1000 filter......so please don't go discounting them.

@MRSMI13Y90 Год назад

Never thought about that … makes sense now.. so if u use nd filters just turn off all stabilization

@jessicat3951 11 месяцев назад

I started photography with real film (pre digital), so your explanations make perfect sense. You are undermining the video software with these filter mods, BUT they do still (ha!) make sense for stills (photos only, not video). I like a UV filter as a lens protector though, if you have lost or broken your lens protector, or if the lens protector is overpriced compared to the UV filter.

@jessicat3951 11 месяцев назад

I was thinking - this all depends on where the light sensors are. If the light sensor is independent of the lens, or if it is the lens.

@LairdDavidson 3 месяца назад

It all makes sense for action cameras. ND filters are only useful in limited scenarios on them. Same for CPL filters. As for UV filters; only useful as a replacement for a scratched lens or protection. On drones, DSLRs, Video cameras and some other cameras though they are very useful (except UV filters which are only useful for protection).

@ElProfeMoto 2 месяца назад

Aside from the gimbal, you can us gyroflow data to compensate the lack of EIS

@Mr.Flex1992 2 месяца назад

Very new here, please help, I want to record my scooter + hiking holiday on DJI action 4 camera in 4k 30 fps rocksteady on. Does that mean that you do not recommend 1/60 shutterspeed ? (With no ND filter). Which shutterspeed do you recommend if no nd filter ?

@davidpoo66 2 месяца назад

You're the best, you just saved me some money for my Action 4 however......😊😊😊😊

@kell7195 11 месяцев назад

Brilliant truths in this vid and some info id never come across before, top shelf stuff! Hows the electric bike going? Ive been thinking about getting one here in Australia.

@kell7195 11 месяцев назад

PS this is a great video from MotoFeelz showing best settings for night riding with Bike/Motorcycle which might be of interest ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-o28DmZNTJ0U.html

@TheCameraManReviews 11 месяцев назад

Yeah the electric bike is cool! thx

@spastikps4916 13 дней назад

I always love finding videos that prove me to be an idiot, by purchasing things I'm being told are worthless. (sigh)

@sevillaneando Год назад

yo tengo la action 3 y con filtros nd freewell la estabilizacion es la misma con la regla de los 180 grado que si la tengo en 2000 a mi no me afecta para nada, y te da unos colores muy bonitos.

@Ali_Kurt Месяц назад

Thanks

@b.griffin317 Год назад

So a higher shutter speed is better for stabilization?

@Manoharudu 2 месяца назад

By setting shutter speed to Auto , can't we get stabilization when using ND Filter ? Because I see that Over Exposure can be normalised only using ND Filter. I am planning to buy one now. Please answer my doubt.

@banhmichay-ngonbachay9231 6 месяцев назад

you tell the truth. your clip is so helpful for me

@ReezMotovlog Год назад

how about stabilize it in post? Will that work?

@jrn-arildgrefsrud7003 Год назад

Thanks for the nice info there! Just wondering about the ND-filters. There are some alternatives between 1/50 and 1/2000. How about a compromise? Using a low ND-filter and ignoring the 180-rule? Wouldn´t that give you both a bit less choppy footage and good stabilization?

@TheCameraManReviews Год назад

what I found is that you need a shutter speed of 1/500 for the stabilisation to work. This is the slowest I could get away with. At this speed any ND filter is pointless as the motion blur is lost and anything below 1/500 the stabilisation wasn't good enough.

@teneridertravels 11 месяцев назад

@@puffythepirateboy6674Agree completely! The sweet spot for helmet mount cams lies between 1/100 and 1/200 shutter speeds for my Osmo Action 3 with Rocksteady turned on. Should be the same for other action cams.

@IvanToman 11 месяцев назад

@@TheCameraManReviews It is not about particular shutterspeed but about having or not having motion blur. For example, at slow moving speeds of movevent through the frame, shutterspeed can be very slow without motion blur and vice versa. The existance of motion blur *is* the reason why camera cannot lock image features with confidence and then fails to apply digital stabilization very well. That's why you see either motion blur, *or* good stabilization, but not both at the same time; regardless at which shutterspeed that starts to happen. Anyway... motion blur is easy to add in postprocessing, so I give you a + for this video.

@profitglen 2 месяца назад

@@TheCameraManReviews 1/500 for stabilization to work? No, thats not been my experience at all. Although I haven't tried on a bike yet. I have gotten great results at 30fps with 1/200 SS and even fairly good results down to 1/120 when walking.

@MatthewTaylor3 8 месяцев назад

With the native stabilization turned off, and third party software like Gyroflow used, ND fitters do serve a purpose of correcting exposure for blown out highlights

@riajulbhuiyan4148 2 месяца назад

Gyroflow need minimum 1/200 sutter speed for stabilization the video.

@MatthewTaylor3 2 месяца назад

@@riajulbhuiyan4148 Gyroflow does a nice job for me at 1/120 shutter speed (and 1/240 during daylight) I live in a PAL 50 Hz country, so I use 1/100 at night, and increase the ISO slightly

@RickMunday Год назад

IME, ND and polarizers are usually used when the camera is locked off. Agree 100% on UV filters they makj no difference with digital cameras/recordings.

@having-fun-while-i-can Год назад

I bought the wrong filters from Polar pro. Now I use the ND filters as extra lenses and shoot in full auto, the only action my Osmo action 1 sees is hiking and driving the freeways

@w.b.widodo1496 4 месяца назад

When you have to capture timelapse footage, ND filter will give you better footage. But there's disadvantage when use in footage action. Purcase it's ok, but use it in selected occasion.

@xXadambXx Год назад

first of all, people use these filters badly, they forget (I don't know how you can forget) that sports cameras use digital stabilization, otherwise post-production. people listened to the talk of filmmakers about the 180 rule, but probably everyone's brain evaporated, because they did not notice that this rule is mentioned on the example of cameras with optical stabilization, only flycam or gimbal stabilizers. sports cameras for smooth stabilization often need 1/240 or even 1/480 of a second! so you can use these filters, but the principle of use is completely different if someone is not going to mount a sports camera on a gimbal.

@andres160982 10 месяцев назад

maybe my brain evaporated, but do you mean action cameras can use these filters but with other "rule", so that the motion blur can be done afterwards, say in premiere?

@duncanking4680 Год назад

What about post processing stabilization,ie..insta360

@TheCameraManReviews Год назад

The insta360 is a beast when it comes to stabilisation, and yes can use filters, because the stabilisation in post uses the gyro data from the camera it can smooth out the footage even at lower shutterspeeds.

@mtbboy1993 11 месяцев назад

4:44 Camera on the handlebar is a horrible idea. I recommend to have the camera on the helmet. I ride with a full face helmet, with Gnartec Ultimate chin mount. No stabilization, it's not needed if you use chin cam setup. I use Go Pro Hero 7 Black with PeauPro87 3.37mm no distortion lens.

@gabrielepinamonti6067 6 месяцев назад

what about using ND filter without the stabilization of the camera, amd then use GyroFlow

@lauriL90 5 месяцев назад

i tried, you stil get jitters after gyroflow export, mainly near highlights.

@ioandragulescu6063 5 месяцев назад

I might talk nonsense since I am a beginner at this but with modern action cams where you can tweak the exposure, shutter speed and ISO, does one even need an ND filter?

@TheCameraManReviews 5 месяцев назад

You are correct that you can change these settings, but the need for an ND would still be required to get a slower shutter speed than the camera will allow.

@ioandragulescu6063 5 месяцев назад

@@TheCameraManReviews yeah, that's true. I am basically still in the watch reviews/guids/howtos until my osmo action 4 arrives and it will be my first action cam :)

@helder4u Год назад

some people, like me, have problems listening to background music when trying to focus on a narrative. I would much appreciate to listen to your voice only - music gets quite disruptive trying to follow your explanations and comprehend them. Though painful to follow, still a good compilation

@enjoyurlifetv 4 месяца назад

🤝

@wentzr 5 месяцев назад

I came here to learn what shutter speed i need to use to properly capture your hand gestures w/o motion blur

@TheCameraManReviews 5 месяцев назад

For video you set the shutter to double your frame rate. So say you record at 60fps, your shutter speed u would set to 1/120 . This will give you the perfect amount of motion blur. To remove motion blur increase ss.

@Ageria0125 Год назад

ND filters our PL you can use them just put your image stabilization off and use gimbal et voila

@hallmountfilms Месяц назад

It's too bad u based your ND argument on this specific usecase. The little bicycle on a bumpy road. You should've shown what the satbilisation looks like in different use cases. On foot/water/automotive etc. For my case (motorcycle) going to 25fps with 180 shutter angle and rocksteady on, the footage looks mint. So you're argument holds up, but only in specific situations you have to add.

@Langor 4 месяца назад

So from what I understood... If you have a relatively stable. Recording it might be worth it?!

@TheCameraManReviews 4 месяца назад

Yep! spot on.

@Langor 4 месяца назад

Wow I shouldn't have been watching RU-vid that late I could barely write. I meant, if your recording is relatively stable and doesn't require rocksteady, the filters can be nice and handy. Would work great as well for pictures I assume

@philvfilms 5 месяцев назад

Then stabilisation off if you don’t need it

@tekhouseman Год назад

gyroflow

@Ken-vl4wk Год назад

You are not a diver…red,magenta filters are necessary

@SEHMOMENT Год назад

I had always used the osmo action 1 with ND filters. As a result, I had great motion blur without the stabilization errors shown in the video. Action 1 also had very good stabilization (RockSteady) with 25p and shutter speed of 1/50. Now with my new Osmo action 3, the shots with the ND filter look scary, as shown in the video. Somehow DJI unfortunately changed the stabilization with the new Action 3. You can't use it with ND-Filters as a Action Cam. They should offer the old "Rock Steady" stabilization from Action 1 as an option again via firmware. If I now intercut the footage with high shutter speeds into my projects and mix it with footage from other cameras with correct shutter speed, it doesn't fit and is clearly noticeable. I bought an robust action camera, because of the good stabilization and the compact dimensions. An external stabilization with a action cam on a gimbal makes no sense in my opinion.

@jeremybarlow2291 Год назад

It depends on what your use case scenario for the action cam is, as to whether or not external stabilization makes sense. I am thinking about using a DJI Osmo Action 3 with it's 10-Bit D-Cinelike profile to intercut with 10-Bit D-Cinelike profile footage from the Mini-3 Pro for real estate videos and in that case ND-filters or no ND filters external stabilization makes sense a because I already own Zhiyun Smooth-Q that I could adapt to work with the Action 3 for $7 and the ND filters do not effect the built in gimbal stabilization on the drone footage. It would make very little sense if I were using the Action 3 for mountain biking videos or more typical action camera uses, on that we certainly agree.

@andres160982 10 месяцев назад

@@jeremybarlow2291 Exactly. They totally make sense with a gimbal, if you care about having motion blur in your footage in the first place. Of course, in very active scenarios you won't be able to use a gimbal, therefore you don't need ND's. In that case, you can add motion blur in post if you want.

@overanalyzings 6 месяцев назад

So the ONLY time an ND filter makes even a little bit of sense for an action camera, is if you are not in motion, but are filming something IN motion.

@miangelo1946 11 месяцев назад

music much too loud, video top

@PatrikIzing 4 месяца назад

That is not the 180-degree rule in film making.

@Arbi1402 Год назад

Too close to the camera 😀

@WhatThePheel Год назад

Why would one use ND filters on a cloudy day? ND filters purpose is to limit the amount of light hitting the lens. It is only ideal in extremely bright situations when your iso settings cannot counter the over exposure, has nothing to do with shutter speed really.

@TheCameraManReviews Год назад

Have you ever heard the saying, "you can lead a horse to water, but you cannot make them drink"?

@erhanakt 5 месяцев назад

Are you kidding? UV filter on no sunlight? :)

@TheCameraManReviews 5 месяцев назад

UV on no sunshine? I'm not following?

@Blackmind0 Год назад

..because of the title i did not stay in the vid, this is nonsense, filters make sense.....

22 дня назад

Abhängig vom Land, in dem Sie leben, sollten Sie einen Filter wählen oder nicht. Für Europa ist beispielsweise ein ND-Filter unnötig. Aber wenn Sie im Urlaub in sonnige Länder reisen, ist der ND-Filter ein Muss! Ich lebe zum Beispiel in Deutschland und benötige hier keinen ND-Filter. Aber ich habe auch einen ND-Filtersatz, den ich verwenden kann, wenn ich in den Urlaub fahre. Und meiner Meinung nach ist es keine Geldverschwendung!

@SB-ht6kf 2 месяца назад

This is such a gaslit video and not true. if you're set the shutter speed to auto this particular camera compensate for the issue described in the video. If you don't believe me, search the many skiing videos made with this camera that use an ND filter. I'm an optical engineer, that works for a competing camera company and have torn this thing down....the reason behind why I would stick up for a competitor is just because truth is truth....so I welcome any challenge to this, which of course I've left some technical facts in my hip pocket. Your move.