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Don't Fall setting up climbing anchor for top roping 

Bobby Hutton
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We talk about how to reduce risk when near the edge of a cliff. I use this skill set for setting up top ropes for rock climbing. This is a combination of skills, it there is anything you are unsure of do more research and as always practice skills in a safe environment.
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@jonathanandrade176
@jonathanandrade176 Год назад
"Never and always are generally used by novices and fanatics" I love that you acknowledge there are MANY nuances in the real world and that every situation is different. Never stop learning never stop practicing systems. Thanks for all the info Bobby!
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Been working on that saying awhile. I definitely feel like I have less of a command on the full body of climbing knowledge than I felt at 20.
@AlexOliverPiano
@AlexOliverPiano Год назад
@@bobbyhutton1989 I really appreciate the phrase too, especially the use of 'generally' lol. Thanks for the info, everything you've put out so far has been incredibly informative and is all getting saved away for later reference because I know I'll be using it!
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
@@AlexOliverPiano Glad you are enjoying the content.
@paulgaras2606
@paulgaras2606 Год назад
What is your opinion on nylon slings around trees? Is it better or worse for the tree than a rope?
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
@@paulgaras2606 Depends on how much surface area is contacting the tree, more is better as it spreads out the load.
@user-fs5bg1xj8t
@user-fs5bg1xj8t Год назад
This is such a great, precise video, every passage is explained perfectly and nothing is left behind... keep this up!
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Thank you. that is a very validating comment.
@christooss
@christooss Год назад
I'm super excited for more of your content. Keep up the great work!
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Thanks for watching!
@joshb693
@joshb693 Год назад
This is the exact video I needed when I started top rope climbing, all the other videos out there are great, but they seem to avoid this one topic which is so crucial! Great stuff.
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Yeah, I noticed that gap. WhenI teach these subjects as a guide people always want to spend extra time in edge safety.
@maxblair3317
@maxblair3317 Год назад
Yes!! Ah I'm so glad you're making videos now Bobby, been a fan of hownot2 for a long time now and I always hoped you would start your own chanel for exactly this kind of content! Best of luck, cheers!
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Sweet! I am really enjoying making this kind of content. Still very involved with Hownot2, but directing the whole creative process my self has been rewarding.
@gergomeister
@gergomeister Год назад
Thanks for the great content! And don't mind if the topics that you want to talk about are already covered by other channels. Your experience brings a lot of value and the way you deliver your content is way more digestable than on other channels! Respect!
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Thanks you. I keep looking up subjects and saying to my self, this video is so well done that I would just be copying it if i covered this content. Lots of really Creative and talented people out there creating content. I wish I had this resource when I was learning.
@stefanomorandi7150
@stefanomorandi7150 Год назад
i can't get enough of your safety tips! this is amazing content and very well explained and valuable to both new and seasoned rope-players, keep up the good work Bobby
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Glad you like them! Keep playing on those ropes.
@emCEEoh
@emCEEoh Год назад
5 5 alive - very helpful. Also the point regarding the root zone being solid.
@dannyCOTW
@dannyCOTW Год назад
Man this is so nice. I remember trying to set up my first top rope outside. I was crawling to the edge and then the anchor was still barely in reach even with my wingspan. This is way less sketchy. Awesome work!
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Been there, done that. Glad we both lived thru it.
@bloodink9508
@bloodink9508 Год назад
This is great. I would love to see it from edge approach to anchor set up start to finish to the point where one is ready to climb. Loving these videos. Thank you.
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
I thought about it but there are a lot of systems to cover. My goal is too keep these videos short and digestible in the hope that people retain the info and not get overwhelmed.
@bloodink9508
@bloodink9508 Год назад
@@bobbyhutton1989 I totally get that. I suppose I was considering such as in a series. Ie after you've individually covered the itinerant portions, then doing a a-b-c...referencing your previous videos where applicable. Regardless it is appreciated.
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
@@bloodink9508 Totally. RU-vid makes it easy to do that. Actually I will link the Hownot2 TR vid when I get a chance.
@bloodink9508
@bloodink9508 Год назад
@@bobbyhutton1989 whoot! You're a gem. Often I see climbs with a walk up path, but the bolted anchors are well below the edge. It would be great to know the safest manner of setting those up with confidence.
@joshuastratton6576
@joshuastratton6576 Год назад
I'm so glad you have a channel now! YES to Bobby content! You're a entertaining and enthusiastic teacher!
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Thanks! I am enjoying making these videos.
@joshuastratton6576
@joshuastratton6576 Год назад
How's the water running through there right now? Had a buddy there the other day who sent me some insane pictures! 😳😳
@joshuastratton6576
@joshuastratton6576 Год назад
@@bobbyhutton1989 are you local to that area? Curious where you're from. You should do an "About Bobby" episode!
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
@@joshuastratton6576 Water is still high, too much rain to climb anyway. Yeah that is my local crag.
@lorisorzan1450
@lorisorzan1450 Год назад
Your voice is very pleasing to hear. Cool content too!
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Glad you enjoy it!
@paveltrue
@paveltrue Год назад
What a way to become an expert on edge safety :)
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Ha ha ha ha. More like how to become passionate about edge safety.
@tbeaudrie13
@tbeaudrie13 Год назад
Thanks for the content Bobby! Always good to refresh and/or learn new things! All your videos are so detailed yet you make it so easy to understand the systems. Love that your passing your knowledge on to others!!
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Thanks for the positive feedback. It sure is a lot easier to teach these concepts concisely when you can spend 5 hrs making 5 minutes of content.
@Crewmaac2
@Crewmaac2 8 месяцев назад
Really enjoyed this video Bobby! It was great meeting you - Hope to see more videos from you soon!
@TheRopeAccessChannel
@TheRopeAccessChannel Год назад
That never and always remark is spot on man! Great video again Bobby.
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Thanks again. Sounds like you have dealt with those types of attitudes as well.
@BMXaster
@BMXaster Год назад
Hey Bobby a little story for you. 2 or 3 years ago I was climbing some routes in the eastern part of Switzerland. a kind of known region, but rarely climbed spot. What I found there was kind of bizarre. There were some routes, which were bolted using concrete screw anchors, also for the 2 top anchors. The stamping on the head told me exactly which screw anchors these were. Hilti HUS-HR, D10mm x 85mm. Now the funny part. I used to work at Hilti, in the Headquarters in Schaan, FL. Most of the testing and technical documentation at the time is produced there, for all the regulatory approvals, development and what not. I've also had set these anchor myself in the past, as well as access to all the CAD files, because at the time I was a design engineer for power tools at Hilti. So in short, I knew exactly what these anchors were, and that's why they got my attention in the first place. Otherwise, I'd probably not have noticed the type of anchors used at all. Also, these anchors are weeell established in the industry and around for a long time. They get used in industrial applications all the time. Now when I was there climbing, I continued climbing with my friends and we had a great time, nothing ever failed or started to in the slightest. But once I was back I started to think a bit more about it and I don't really know what my opinion is on that. On one hand, there is the officially approved data sheet, which says that this bolt has a failure load of 16kN tension, and 33 shear in non-cracked concrete and 9kN tension and 28.6 kN shear in cracked concrete. Yes these numbers are for fairly high quality concrete, not Rock. But these numbers are tested with the bolt only 70mm deep, while at the wall, they are set like 85mm minus the thickness of the hanger. So these numbers seem super good enough. On the other hand, it kind of worries me that there might be a trend starting (here in Switzerland at least, tho other than this place, I haven't come across any other routes set like this yet) were people start using these screw anchors regularly and without much thought. They are pretty convenient after all, you're probably twice as fast in setting the bolt than with other methods. They are quite expensive, especially the Hilti ones (like 7.- a piece) but there are many cheaper brands. So I don't know concrete screw anchor in particular, but I know screws in general very well and the thing which worries me is the fact, that these are still screws, and screws come loose over time. Yes, these screws are tested in any imaginable environment. Salty surroundings, in seismic active settings, material fatigue is taken into account and lots more. But Rock kind of lives. Rock can be dense, perfect and strong, it can be impure at times or it can be a pile of rubble in many places. It changes all the time, through erosion, earthquakes, avalanches, water which freezes to ice and expands. And all these things are generally NOT a place, where a screw excels. You DON'T want to use screws there, maybe anywhere. But these things are just so convenient, if the rock is bad, I'll just set one which is double the length, or backup the anchor with a third one, because it probably still takes less time, than glue-in's. So that's it. I don't know to be honest. On one hand, I don't really care, on the other hand, it worries me a bit. But what are your thoughts on it? If you managed to read all the way through :)
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Interesting. Do you have anything to do with the Hilti Rotary hammer drills? I have some of the same concerns about concrete screws. I use the Titen HD version all the time for temporary anchors, anchoring testing equipment and breaking hangers. I think they excel for those purposes. i have installed a few dozen stainless concrete screws as permanent anchors and they seem to be functioning perfectly. I don't install them anymore as I had so many cutting threads (at the end of the bolt) get worn down in the rock. that ruins a bolt and makes me doubt the integrity of the hole. The SS version with hanger is just as expensive as a glue in. What I have settled on for now is wedge bolts for amazing rock and glue ins for everything else. Feel free to email. bobbyhutton1989@gmail.com
@MAV3NX
@MAV3NX Год назад
Another tight and succinct video. I wish this type of content was available 30 years ago when I started climbing. I had a really old book on climbing and following the methods from it would certainly frighten most modern climbers. 😁
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Thank you. I collect those old climbing and mountaineering manuals bc I think they are fascinating.
@error.418
@error.418 Год назад
Really excellent pacing on your presentation. Very clear. Loving your work!
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Glad you liked it! Those were the boxes I was trying to tick.
@timoimmonen1861
@timoimmonen1861 5 месяцев назад
Thank You, it's good to review the basics once in a while. Finland gives 10 points.
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 5 месяцев назад
Glad you got some value out of the video.
@joefran619
@joefran619 День назад
Not a climber but I do on occasion go up on my 2 story roof and use safety devices when doing so. Great advice.
@Orion_5764
@Orion_5764 Год назад
Another absolutely banger video, man I am loving to new videos
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Glad you are enjoying them, thanks for watching.
@JimmyGrahamPhoto
@JimmyGrahamPhoto Год назад
Thanks for all the knowledge Bobby, you’re one of the few channels I genuinely support. Keep killing it and hope you know there’s thousands of people eagerly waiting for the next upload, keep killing it dude.
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Thanks for the kind words. i am working on a handful of videos that I will probably release this fall. Finishing up an exciting one the will be published on Hownot2.
@shatter98
@shatter98 Год назад
This is great content Bobby! Sometimes the simple stuff is stuff that nobody else is covering and needs to be covered for the beginners out there.
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Thanks. That was what I was going for.
@novadea1643
@novadea1643 Год назад
Very informative and well covered, while the only really new thing I learned was the "five five and alive" phrase I still enjoyed all of it. Great work, subbed for more quality content.
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Thank you. I loved that phrase as soon as I heard it. I have been told it is based on some pretty exhaustive research and testing.
@DANDthekid
@DANDthekid Год назад
Yay! I’m so happy to see you are making content! I loved watching videos that you were featured in, and every time I would say to myself “that guy is a “FWOK” (a F’ing wealth of knowledge)” I look forward to more videos!
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Thanks for the support. Still very involved with Hownot2. I enjoying creating this content tho.
@chrismargono908
@chrismargono908 2 месяца назад
Bobby, this content is great. Prepping for a trip to the Gunks and this is just what I needed.
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 24 дня назад
Glad you found it helpful
@z1522
@z1522 9 месяцев назад
Solid, practical advice. The tree tie could be done with the triple wrap, a fig. 8 eye and locking biner to the incoming line; this creates practically no strength reduction. If this were a summitting scenario, the main rope left available might allow anchoring quite a ways from the edge, if no closer reliable anchors were found, but this might necessitate moving down the line closer to the edge for communication, and not pulling belay rope over the edge. Situational flexibility, and familiarity with a few alternatives to the formulaic systems taught now, can help a lot to avoid needless compromises. The rule of "redundancy" is touched on, and the concept has value wherever anything might somehow be tested to a limit - but master points, belay devices and biners, harness buckles, and such are all non-redundant, in ordinary usage - but sound ropes, locking carabiners, belay devices simply have never failed where used to mfg. specs. Misuse and rockfall can bypass the normal parameters of things; things move and unclip, probably 100-1000 X more often than they break. Slings and ropes abrade dramatically, for example, under tension in a diagonal fall, across coarse granite - one climber following a traverse in the S. Platte took a mild penduluming swing, and found himself hanging from just a couple core strands of the rope(on display in Neptune Mtning). Testing equipment can reveal both surprising strengths, and weaknesses, in commonly used gear and setups. But developing an awareness of what to avoid is not a simple checklist; experience and sharing close calls can be more valuable than any quick "How To" video. User error is much more likely to result in accidents, than from using "old fashioned" methods which are still mostly "good enough."
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 8 месяцев назад
A bit long and rambling so not sure I can reply adequately, but I will try. There are at leaat a dozen variations you could use to tie off to a tree that would work perfectly for the task. The friction less hitch you mentioned is a great one, ultimate strength doesn't matter in this context, but it is vey simple and can use a knot most climbers already know. No substitute for experience. You do have to start somewhere to gain that experience tho.
@tommylee3834
@tommylee3834 Год назад
was always wondering when you were going to make your own channel; happy to see it pop up on my recommended. love the vid!
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Well, I got the covid in the midst of bad weather window, so I finally broke down and started to learn how to edit.
@patrickkillian5925
@patrickkillian5925 Год назад
Such important advice- even on super good terrain crap can happen so I always make sure myself and anyone up there with me are safety lined when we get near the edge. Personally I usually just pre-tie a catastrophe knot at about the distance of the edge and then clip it to me before I even clip on a cinch/gri-gri but I do see the benefits to tying it right where/when you need it too
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Great method. Quick and easy to tie another one if your guess is wrong.
@user-my6vh7fj9t
@user-my6vh7fj9t Год назад
I have always been into rock climbing but never had the opportunity to learn (curse of a tiny town) now that im in a bigger city I will be going to a climbing gym regularly. Thanks for relighting that passion
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Glad to hear that, The sport gas brought a lot of meaningful connections and opportunities into my life. My goal is to pass that on when I can.
@testboga5991
@testboga5991 Год назад
Wow, just found your channel after seeing you often on How not 2. You're one of my favorite climbing educators on RU-vid. Keep the videos coming 😊
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Welcome aboard. I appreciate the kind words.
@mavrickbrand5507
@mavrickbrand5507 Год назад
Wow I just noticed today you have a RU-vid channel. Super happy to watch your content, I enjoy all you share. Thank you
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Welcome. Glad you are enjoying the content.
@charanvantijn541
@charanvantijn541 Год назад
Another perfect video. Clear, concise, not hurried, no time wasted. Video A OK, Audio A OK. Information A OK. Thanks Bobby!
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Thanks for the positive feedback. Those were all the marks I was trying to meet.
@kyleloerzel8852
@kyleloerzel8852 Год назад
Bobby is just splendid to listen to
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Thanks so much.
@christyl5481
@christyl5481 7 месяцев назад
Thank you thank you thank you!!!! You’re a good soul, I appreciate this clear cut presentation. Also I’m glad to hear you made it out of your life or death fall.
@hankmishima4798
@hankmishima4798 3 месяца назад
Thanks for this video Bobby. Have just completed my first outdoor class and set a couple of TR anchors both from bolts and with cams and a rock. Clipped into a hanger and a cam for myself until an anchor was set and checked by my instructor. They both worked! I have a 30' static and just got my first dynamic so I will be likely testing your methods (with a mentor) soon.
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 24 дня назад
Awesome!
@zjames1324
@zjames1324 Год назад
Amazing guide as always. CRG is one of my favorite jems of California!
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Same here. It is a nice to have it just down the road.
@timmyross1487
@timmyross1487 4 месяца назад
thank you for this i learned alot about edge safty and the danger of edgeing
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 4 месяца назад
Glad you enjoyed it.
@jerek9378
@jerek9378 4 месяца назад
Being so close is spooky, and its easy to get carried away. Just remember to practice safety around edging on cliffs
@Miminyte500
@Miminyte500 Год назад
Apart from all the justified praise of the content of the videos I want to highlight the editing. The videos are paced nicely, the information is not overwhelming while also being concise (this has to do both with editing and with the way you talk and present information). Do you have somebody helping you with the filming and editing side of the channel? If somebody else is doing the editing (which, if it produces videos like this, is great) I'm slightly worried about some information not making it through the editing process. I just don't want your message to get cut down in the name of snappier editing, shorter videos or "more interesting" content. Anyways, it's an absolute joy to watch your videos and they're quickly becoming my favorite RU-vid "series."
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Thanks so much for the kind words. I am editing the videos (and filming them). I am learning a ton about the editing process but working with Ryan on Hownot2 has given me a pretty clear idea of how I want content to look. Ryan looks over all my videos and gives a ton of helpful advice on content and editing choices.
@TheMilkMensch
@TheMilkMensch Год назад
This is the channel I'd recommend to someone who wanted to start learning about outdoor climbing. It's informative, and succint.
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Thank you. Working hard on the edits to keep these short and sweet
@Com_Truise
@Com_Truise Год назад
Good work, Bobby! You have one of the most informative climbing channels on RU-vid these days. Keep the content coming!
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Appreciate the flattery. Lots of great content creators out there. I just learned a new technique, that I will use all the time, the other day from Tom O'Halloran over in Australia.
@doutiful23
@doutiful23 9 месяцев назад
Bought to climb at Red Rocks in Vegas. Thanks for the good vibes Bobbaaay
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 8 месяцев назад
Right on.
@NPC-fl3gq
@NPC-fl3gq Год назад
Bobby just seems like the most awesomest bloke that ever awesomed!!
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
I wish.
@TreeClimbsdotcom
@TreeClimbsdotcom Год назад
Good to see you putting those tree climbing skills to good use! 😉
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Thanks 👍
@masonmcelvain442
@masonmcelvain442 6 месяцев назад
I too am lucky to be alive after decking from the top of a climb when I first started out. Thank you for taking the time to make this video! Will definitely be shared with all the gumbies in my life :)
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 5 месяцев назад
Glad you are still with us.
@derekherman5159
@derekherman5159 5 месяцев назад
Thank you! Everyone says to setup a top rope as a new climber but I hadn't found a good video explaining how to safely set one up.
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 4 месяца назад
I noticed the same thing.
@jonathangonzalez1988
@jonathangonzalez1988 Год назад
Pretty much exactly how I was taught edge protection! These are some pretty important and fundamental skills for anyone looking to set up top ropes. Thanks for the video, I'll be sharing this with my buddies 😁
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for the share.
@Aeronaughtica
@Aeronaughtica Год назад
Bomber content Bobby! Thank you!
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Glad you enjoyed it!
@xsk8rat
@xsk8rat Год назад
A+++ Bobby! We started the climbing a long time ago (19mumblemumble) and the first three climbing magazines we bought each had a note about separate articles about different "fall while setting up TR" accidents. There's an extra lanyard on each harness to allow us to leave the safety anchor as the fourth anchor in TR the set up (it's the back up back up). Always clip in please. We make it a verbal check between husband and wife-boss while setting up the climbs: "You clipped in?" "Yeah, you?" or "Shit! I am now!"
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Thank you! All good advice. Buddy (or spouse) checks are often skipped over to our cost.
@truthdefenders-
@truthdefenders- Год назад
Good stuff Bobby, keep them coming. Thnx
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Thanks, will do.
@jasonbradshaw5853
@jasonbradshaw5853 Год назад
Great concise video! I would add a barrel knot at the end of your static line over the edge...just to ensure a good practice for ends of ropes. 😀
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Absolutely. I had one but forgot to mention it. Too concise maybe.
@dann3skjold
@dann3skjold Год назад
Loving the content, Bobby. Glad to see you on RU-vid still!
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Thanks. Still on RU-vid, still very involved with Hownot2.
@MichaelWilliams-xs1cf
@MichaelWilliams-xs1cf Год назад
Outstanding, I'm glad you made this
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Glad you liked it!
@Alvinyokatori
@Alvinyokatori Год назад
You got me thinkin… made some improvements to my usual system when I was out today !!
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Rad!
@theirontower4597
@theirontower4597 Год назад
I miss that gorge so much, Ill watch every video you make there lol! Its where I learned how to transition from the gym to trad, such a perfect place for teaching and teaching videos!
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Absolutely. I spend a lot of time there during the winters.
@bobbyd7363
@bobbyd7363 Год назад
exactly what i was looking for. thanks Bobby!
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Glad I could help.
@Saeched
@Saeched Год назад
Another great video! Please could you do something like an ‘about me’ type of video? I would be interested to find out how you got into climbing, some of your favourite trips, what you do for work these days etc!
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Maybe. I am pretty shy. Ryan on Hownot2 gets personal details out if me every once in awhile.
@dannyswayze2133
@dannyswayze2133 Год назад
Amazing information Bobby! This WILL assist the community in making safer decisions out there. Thank you.
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Glad it was helpful!
@johngo6283
@johngo6283 Год назад
Superb explanation about a very important topic that for some reason is rarely covered. If you lack a Grigri, a prusik hitch and a cat knot work fine too.
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Thank you. I don't see people using the single prussic much anymore. Fine in my opinion if tied properly on newish cord on appropriate diameter rope. There have been enough accidents with single prussic that you rarely see that method taught.
@johngo-jl3uz
@johngo-jl3uz Год назад
@@bobbyhutton1989 Yeah I don’t think anybody would ever advocate using a single Prusik as the lone back up. But in this case, the primary system is you not being a klutz and stumbling off the edge. The back up to your coordination is the hitch, and the back up to the hitch is the cat knot. Now, if you’re talking about actually going over a real edge and hanging in space and putting your whole weight on it, then I think Grigri is a much better choice. Excellent video series, thanks for contributing to climbing education.
@ottard
@ottard Год назад
Another great video! Answers a lot of qusetions i've had.
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Glad it was helpful!
@chrissonnenschein6634
@chrissonnenschein6634 Год назад
Breath of fresh air to hear a pov separate from the all-too-familiar “SuperGoodEnough&HOW⁉️” YTChannel to the all new “DoesBH👍🏼😃OR👎🏼😬&WHY” Channel .....
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
It takes all types.
@chrissonnenschein6634
@chrissonnenschein6634 Год назад
@@bobbyhutton1989 Yes indeed.
@jnyne3303
@jnyne3303 Год назад
Hell yes Bobby! Good stuff
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Glad you enjoyed it!
@matheushorstmann1816
@matheushorstmann1816 Год назад
Rope protection system is an interesting subject. I usually make mine with segments of used firemen hose.
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Totally. I have used fire hose. The next batch I get I will probably split length wise so it can be added after the system is set up. A prussic on para cord is a great for positioning
@zees4587
@zees4587 Год назад
love the Nalgene for scale! thanks.
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
ha ha ha. i had to do so many takes my voice got sore and i needed the water.
@jermainelewis9678
@jermainelewis9678 Год назад
Great video, Bobby 👍👍
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Thanks 👍
@mastheadmike
@mastheadmike Год назад
Excellent and concise. Great content. Fantastic delivery.
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Glad you liked it! That is what I am working for.
@surfarden10
@surfarden10 Год назад
I'd love to see a video about setting up a top rope or fixed line to clean and practice high ball boulders
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Hmm. Could be an interesting thing to explore.
@jamestalo9533
@jamestalo9533 Год назад
I saw on a rescue demonstration video. The rope is wrapped around the object and the wraps hold the load and the carabiner is the backup to the wraps holding the load.
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Frictionless hitch. Works great for trees. Takes a ton of rope for most rocks that won't move.
@hedleydude234
@hedleydude234 Год назад
It's awesome seeing new content from you! Thanks for all that you do :)
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Glad you enjoy it! Thanks for watching.
@oldclimber5502
@oldclimber5502 Год назад
Bobby; I think you caught all the gotchas , excellent, I personally hate it when climbers are unprotected at edges. A tip I was given when I started was with slings if your not sure it will stay on, run the sling back and forth like a saw, pops off occasionally ! Nice tip on the double rope around the boulder with a bowline ( new to me )🙂
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
After my tumble it makes me real anxious to see people unprotected next to an edge. Hmm, I would be concerned about running my slings getting chewed up running back and forth across a rock. My thought is if there isn't an obvious lip to hold the anchor choose another rock. That bowline with 2 ropes seems to work great. I have used it for zipline anchors in sharper rocks with minimal sheath damage and it came untied easily after seeing 4 kn.
@rowanboutette4119
@rowanboutette4119 Год назад
Great video! Not sure if it was mentioned but it's probably a good idea to put a stopper knot in the end of the rope
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Absolutely.
@lightpixeldotnet
@lightpixeldotnet Год назад
We need a "Stay high, dont die" T-shirt with the pose on it at 7:34 🤣
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
funny
@lleberghappy
@lleberghappy Год назад
Nice! A hand on step by step guide for safe climbing would be cool. Just like this, examples and bad examples, not just talking. Obviously not instead of a climbing course or experienced company. Useful even for those who have taken a course. Keep it up!
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
I plan on covering subjects like this that I feel are important but under covered. My goal is to keep the videos short so more people will absorb the subject. I feel videos like this are a good resource to know what you are looking at when Someone teaches you or if you are more independent a place to start practicing and researching.
@matthews7732
@matthews7732 Год назад
Great content Bobby!
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Thanks for watching!
@nick1657
@nick1657 Год назад
I’ve definitely had some sketchy times setting up my top rope solo anchors at Cosumnes. Looking back I definitely should’ve done something like this
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
You and me both.
@LachlanBradfordWest
@LachlanBradfordWest Год назад
Perfect content. It's short and sweet. Very helpful thank you.
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Glad it was helpful!
@GamingAegis
@GamingAegis Год назад
Bobby once again with a banger ❤‍🔥
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Thanks for watching!
@3dagedesign
@3dagedesign Год назад
perhaps you also could cover using a rope protector on edges, and how to deal with Descending/Ascending, while using a rope protector.
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Yeah that could be interesting. I once spent a morning searching all over Moab for a solution to protecting 400 ft of rope on a desert tower. We ended up cleaning out a flooring store of all their carpet samples.
@johngo6283
@johngo6283 Год назад
@@bobbyhutton1989 auto parts store. 1/2 inch heater hose line, sold by the foot. Slice it lengthwise, put it over your rope, tape it in place, done, kaboom!
@QuentinLeCalvez
@QuentinLeCalvez Год назад
Love it, learning stuff. Keep it up Bobby! 🙏
@DarkSliders
@DarkSliders Год назад
Awesome video, I needed some reassurance on this, and you addressed the issues really well and in detail. I didn’t see much about padding on edges though, and I’ve always been wondered whether you should have some when belaying over an edge from the top.
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
That could be an interesting topic. Most ropes are pretty tough, but if the edge is sharp enough, think something you would be uncomfortable standing on bare foot, I have seen ropes part really quickly.
@Puddyglum
@Puddyglum Год назад
Great content! Simple, straightforward. Is this filmed at the Cosumnes River Gorge? I think my climbing partner used that smaller tree to descend down to the anchors. I do kinda wish this walkthrough included descending to the anchors, and then ascending back up -- that part is a bit awkward sometimes if you are setting up a TR. Thank you for all that you do for the community!
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Yes. This is at CRG but at spot near the road that people seldom climb. I was filming Solo and couldn’t figure out how to film, do and teach in the edge, though I really wanted to demonstrate that part, not just talk about it.
@olivera9001
@olivera9001 Год назад
Your making great videos keep it up! I did have a question however, i feel like i see many people let go of gregre’s while rope soloing or even while repelling when they stop to look at holds, rest, ext. would you say it’s safe to do so? I do understand that a gregre is a assisted breaking device but it seems like people are comfortable using at a anchor point to the harness without holding tension.
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Obviously it is fine enough of the time for people to develop those habbits. It is the edge cases like thin ropes, worn grigri or other wierd friction situations that will get people with bad belay habbits in trouble. In my opinion tying a catastrophe knot when you take your hand off the break strand will go a long ways toward preventing avoidable accidents with serious consequences.
@mggmuggins
@mggmuggins Год назад
Thanks for the video Bobby, reliable content on this subject is suprisingly hard to find. One question: when you're using a single point anchor like this it is obviously ideal for the anchor and the place you're setting the toprope to form a line that is perpendicular to the cliff edge. However, there isn't always a suitable anchor that forms a roughly perpendicular line with the spot you want to set a rope. How do you handle stabilization of a single point rappel in those situations? I went with a guide who did essentially what you describe here despite a not great angle.
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Great point. Be aware of the angles. Just bc you are tied in doesn't meen you can,t be dangerous. If you have enough rope you could stabilize or position it it with a second leg. You could redirect the line to something closer to the edge, just make sure you won't pull suff down on you.
@austinwessels
@austinwessels Год назад
10/10 would climb with Bobby!
@kevinscheetz9643
@kevinscheetz9643 Год назад
To mitigate tree damage, I use 1 inch webbing around the tree. One session might be doing minimal damage, but in a high traffic climbing area little amounts of damage can add up over time.
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
For sure.
@beauxgaloo9621
@beauxgaloo9621 Год назад
I’ve found this video very helpful! Thank you Bobby 😊
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Thanks for the positive feedback. Helpful has definitely the goal.
@LocalConArtist
@LocalConArtist Год назад
Sweet content, I have been thinking about this for a while thanks for the explanation
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Glad it was helpful.
@lucasfreeland8412
@lucasfreeland8412 Год назад
Thank you for this!
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Glad it was helpful!
@pstathopulos
@pstathopulos Год назад
Great video!
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Glad you enjoyed it
@cmjamies3
@cmjamies3 Год назад
Keep it up!
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Thanks!
@Spinsser
@Spinsser Год назад
Thank you Bobby for the great content as usual I would like to add my 0.00002$ to the topic. I think it's better to tie a slipknot as a catastrophe knot instead for the overhand on a bight. The reason being that it's easier to untie when the Grigri is stuck on it; otherwise you'll have to ascend the rope and it's particularly challenging in an overhang. This is just a minor nitpick but I think it's good to build systems that work everywhere. Please correct me if I'm mistaken.
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
I know people who use slip knots. You need to be careful to set the knot as it can come out easily due to movement or rope weight. I tried it and didn't find that it saved me any time or effort and I wasn't ever positive it would be there if I needed it.
@fionadebernardi7612
@fionadebernardi7612 7 месяцев назад
super helpful! thank you :)
@tdobson2
@tdobson2 Год назад
Hey Bobby, quietly and with much respect, I appreciate these videos. One thing that drives me maaaad is myths and Sort-of-myths about climbing. Obviously some of these are covered on The Internet, but I wonder if some things about climbing might be in scope for channel. Is it bad to have a sling round a boulder that only just fits (think of the angles!!). What sort of load does a sitting down body belay support? (When should it/shouldn't it be used?) What are the risks of standing up and belaying (or not!)? How much wear on my rope should I expect whilst top roping? Huge gratitude for the time you put into these videos. I think many people don't realise how much effort and thought go into 6 mins of content (let alone the time to learn this in the first place). I do. fistbumps :)
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Thanks for the nice note Tim. Almost sounds like to have been reading my episode ideas. Laying down while belaying and hip belay are on the list. re slings around boulders. I think people get confused about tri load with metal goods, how angles multiple force on bolted or trad gear and how soft goods handle loads. Force wise a sling around a boulder is full strength or better, provided any sharp edges are padded properly. Of course there are other considerations like stability, security and redundancy. Top Rope wear will vary a ton based on how careful you are about preventing the rope from rubbing against the rock, the rope itself, the weight of the climbers, how fast you lower etc. writing that out I think there might be an episode there.
@tdobson2
@tdobson2 Год назад
Thanks for the thoughtful reply. I hear what you're saying. Thanks for putting so much thought and effort into this. :)
@johnmartin4427
@johnmartin4427 Год назад
You the Man Bobby! Great video! Addressed my concerns. 2 Q’s. (1) How long, diameter, static safety rope? (2) Timber hitch around tree? will not slip to damage rope or tree?
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
1. I generally have about 100 feet of 10mm or larger static. I like the abrasion resistance of thicker rope and the 10mm still functions well in the Grigri. Check the specifics on your device. Length depends on your area. 2. Never used or seen a timber hitch used in life safety applications and a quick google didn't show show life support use.
@johnmartin4427
@johnmartin4427 Год назад
@@bobbyhutton1989 - Thanks, I like your content and style.
@vinceimp9581
@vinceimp9581 Год назад
Hiking to cliff dwellings in Arizona and other trails in the superstitions has me looking for cross over items to help deal with border line climbing situations. Using a BD grappling hook as a pack hanger was my first idea and having a foot loop for a step along with it was another. Any input or ideas you can share in a video may be something sorta new to YT and helpful to a wider range of folks. I find myself really enjoying myself as a learn about this stuff even if I'm not using it quite as intended. Thanks for sharing and you really are enjoying the comments if you made it this far, take care and be well.
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Interesting. Using an aid hook as a single point anchor is out of my risk tolerance. I would have to see what trails you are on to have any meaningful insight.
@vinceimp9581
@vinceimp9581 Год назад
Its hiking trails with something you can get up with nothing really, think of a step you wish was about a foot or so shorter that I use the hook on solo. I may experience 2 or 3 situations where you want just a bit of assistance to make it easier in boulders or maybe a person hight ledge is the biggest drop im dealing with. Totally understand not wanting to give possibly wrong or bad advice out of your experience tho. Thanks, take care and be well.
@vinceimp9581
@vinceimp9581 Год назад
If you were curious devils chasm cliff dwellings in the serria ancha wilderness and FlatIron trail/ Ridgeline trail in the superstitions are some prime examples of the more extreme hiking I've been on.
@steejans
@steejans Год назад
This is super helpful. Thanks!
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Glad it was helpful!
@mattd1188
@mattd1188 Год назад
Hey Bobby, I've watched a bunch of videos today and decided that while Ryan isn't unlikable you are more likable. I'm not sure what one would do with that information but it's not my problem anymore. 😂 Sort of like a "Here Bobby, take this." moment. lol
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
I think Ryan is super likable otherwise I wouldn't work with him. He is also the most driven and hardest working person I have ever met. That met the bar of the speech impediment comment.
@mattd1188
@mattd1188 Год назад
@@bobbyhutton1989 Oh, totally. from my 1000 foot view - as an internet-rando viewer Ryan does seem like a super likable go-getter; I just am more drawn to your vibe than his and for that I apologize. 😂 I don't mean any disrespect at all. You keep being you, Bobby. 👍
@Victor-Michael
@Victor-Michael Год назад
Great Video! could you do a video on Pulley's uses in rock climbing
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Hmm. What are you thinking specifically? Unless you big wall their use is pretty limited. Progess capture pulleys get used a lot for TRS. Am I missing any common uses?
@Victor-Michael
@Victor-Michael Год назад
@@bobbyhutton1989 that was my impression that they had no common uses. Not to long ago whilst out a crag I saw a couple using a pulley on a top rope set up with carabiners just for redundancy which got me thinking if I was missing uses for then.
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
@@Victor-Michael I have seen people use pulleys for TRing once or twice. Usually the amount of friction from the TR anchor is welcome. I had climbing mentors who had the DMM revolver pulley carabiners on their TR set up for a minute until a big fall sent the belayer up past the climber. Those carabiners sat on a shelf after that. Edit to say: I had the same impression about Pullys when I started climbing so I bought one. Never used it for recreational climbing. Pulled it out of the closet after 5 years for MA systems pulling heavy stuff into trees building challenge courses. I will add a pulley to the Ascending system I used in the last video.
@lawlawlo
@lawlawlo Год назад
Enjoying the vids. Anything more to look forward to in the future with Ghost Town Living?
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Год назад
Nothing on the books, but my invitation is still good I believe. We have been there since the videos and put in more routes.
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