Don't SHUT DOWN your computer! 

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@@LironSegev There's something I don't understand though. Its set up on a fast start-up right? How is it gonna start-up faster if we untick the option? I'm asking cause right now my laptop is taking 20 minutes (sometimes more) to come back after a shut down. Should I untick or leave like that?

@@lemonacidrounds7293 If your laptop is taking that long to turn on, it is either 30 years old or you have a serious problem

@@uogiusj Its 4 years old and I have a very special program installed that allows me to use windows 10 with the look of windows 7. I'm not a fan of windows 10 looks so I've installed this one to look and operate as windows 7 as the model supports windows 10 only. I'm sure this program is taking too long to adjust after restart. Its fine as I rarely restart it. If I don't restart it works as a Swiss watch!

@@lemonacidrounds7293: In my experience, an old PC can build up a LOT of extra stuff over the years as you add various software. Trying to clean up stuff you find in the startup folder can help. But the biggest thing, which can make a HUGE, almost miraculous difference for very slow startup in Windows is to use an SSD instead of a slow old HDD. i strongly suspect that for a 20 minute startup, it won't make much difference for you, but you could experiment and try it both ways and time it and see.

Appreciate the comment. If you came here to learn about Windows, I figure no one needs a 20 min montage of me making coffee 🤪 Let's just get into it!

@@LironSegev exactly

And somebody who doesn't actually start off with 'what's happening, guys?' quickly followed by a request to subscribe and click the bell. So refreshing.

I now automatically start at the 5-10 minute range. RU-vid must give them all a script to read.

100% agree

It works on your mobile phone

It works for life too...

It works for your dental appointments (repeat chain yall)

@@gouthamkrishna7366 life speedrun (any %)

@@Jebu911 havent tried that, thanks.

Most people just look up Linus. You either get his Tech Tips or his Techquickie channel. This was covered a year ago.

@@Honeneko. That's the point of having alternatives, I'm quite aware of Linus but I can't stand his style 🤷🏻

@@Honeneko. "linus did it first" shut up lol

@@xaby996 Lol. Paint him Yellow and call him Homer.

Totally agree

There are also Bios settings that change what led lights do when shutdown

not necessarily the same thing

just turn off the power supply with the switch built on to it once yuo shut it down

@Karl with a K Just flip the power switch in the back of the power supply.

@Karl with a K well.... New AAA games don't have win 7 compatibility.......

I agree. If you have win10pro, you can disable this feature in group policy editor. Startup programs are the main cause of slow startups also.

I also agree- when I finally made the switch from hdd to ssd, the difference in startup times was like lightning. I have disabled fast startup for other reasons on hdd boot drives before. So it only makes sense that this is now outmoded.

Fast startup could still reduce your startup time from 45 seconds to 10 though.

Avoid sleep or hibernate. If system crashes... you are in real trouble. A security concern being afk? Just log off.

@@flinch622 ikr, i've had trouble coming back from hibernate.

I'll add this: One of the main causes of hardware failure is thermal stress. Which arises not from very high or low temperatures, but from *changes* in temperature. Faster changes in temperature cause more stress. So any shutdowns should ideally be brief. For example, your CPU may idle at 120F and jump to 150F under stress. That's a ΔT of 30F. If you turn it off and let it reach a room temperature of 70F, that's a ΔT of 50F. And if you turn your computer on and jump right into a high-load activity like gaming, your CPU may go from 70F to 150F (ΔT=80F) extremely quickly. [note: It is NOT correct to say that a ΔT of 60F is "double" a ΔT of 30F, because Fahrenheit and Celsius are not absolute scales. To find the true % increase in temperature you have to take a ratio of the temperatures scaled from absolute 0.] I'm not 100% on this next part, but I personally believe this is one reason why game consoles die so much faster than PCs. Part of it is that they're made as cheaply as possible while trying to maximize performance, certainly. But budget PCs often don't have the same short lifespans. Imo, game consoles die so fast because they get flipped between sitting cold and running games so much more often than PCs ever do. tl;dr if you need to reboot, do it quickly.

My PC hardly ever shuts down. Its allowed to go into standby mode when it idles too long. My Desktop PC is running fine with no issues.

@@NiteSaiya strange becauso my 360 still works fine, same with my xbox1. Got the 360 on RELEASE and used it a LOT, I'd say over 10000hours in total.

@@NiteSaiya a difference of 60F IS double a difference of 30F. Despite the fact that the scale doesn't start at absolute zero, the differences scale equivalently. A difference of 30F is exactly equivalent to a difference of 16.666K, no matter what the actual temperatures recorded are. The difference between 0F and 30F is 16.666 Kelvin, the difference between 12.5F and 42.5F is 16.666 Kelvin. Differences are double, but the actual values are not double. Look at it this way. A difference of 30°F is exactly 30R. A difference of 60°F is exactly 60R. Rankine is an absolute scale and the % increase on the 60R will be exactly double that of the 30R every time. It's the same with °C and K. It doesn't matter whether they start at absolute 0 or not if the only thing you're doing is comparing DIFFERENCES in heat and not the actual temperature values. The comparison of difference in energy is also identical to the difference in heat as long as both items compared are identical (same structure and mass)

@@NiteSaiya I've built my own computers since I was 16. The first years I always shut down my computer each time I did not use it. Weirdly enough, I seemed to encounter hardware problems (hdd, ram, power supply and internal controller card) failures regular. After some years I kept my PC running 24/7. They would run for years without any problems. You can compare it the effects of G force. If you accelerate too fast, your body will not handle it. If you accelerate slower, you can reach speeds as high as you want. Same goes for harddrives.

Thanks

I run a laptop from 2017, HDD, I recently disabled Fast Startup (after one incident where startup yielded INTERNAL_POWER_FAILURE when trying to log in) and I don't notice any practical difference in startup times. Hmm...

I use sleep all the time. And, when the power goes off due to a particularly powerful lightning flash, the laptop reboots back to where I left it.

@@queengown4255 Except one day the surge will get to your laptop in sleep mode and fry it through because it's still connected to power... just saying. Disable fast start-up in the control panel under power option, "change what the power button does". Search for it if not appearing.

I still don't understand why? Well, the computer is there, I can just turn it off (pull out all the wires from the outlet) and nothing like that will happen..@@jas_bataille

I loved using hibernate when my laptop had a hard drive, but when i switched to SSD I’m hesitant to use hibernate because it might wear down my SSD. I wish Windows allowed you to change the location of the hibernation file.

Mine says 5 days so not that bad. How do you personaly do a full shut down?

@@richardjones2811 I have a batch file on my desktop with the command "shutdown.exe /s /t 02" in it and I run it when I'm done using the computer. The "/t 02" is the amount of time the computer waits before shutting down, in this case 2 seconds. It's just long enough for the prompt to come up and tell you the computer is about to shut down, and then it does.

@@Bill_CBR I do the same thing, but have icons on my desktop for Shutdown and Restart. Create a shortcut for a Command window, change the properties of the new shortcut to: Target: %windir%\system32\cmd.exe /C "shutdown -s -t 2". For restart, Target is: %windir%\system32\cmd.exe /C "shutdown -r -t 2". Then change the icon to something that make sense to you.

I'd use the /t 0 option myself, the 2 second delay doesn't make sense

@@richardjones2811 shift+shutdown

I had to use 2 separate hard drives One is a NVMe 128. The other is 256 SATA. Windows is forced into the 128. It keeps whining not enough room to change to Win 11. Meanwhile Linux is the primary used drive. It sucks to have to change the boot drive in the bios. But windows does not corrupt the Linux install any more. Windows always has been the trouble maker, spoiled child. The reality If was not for games, Windows would be long gone. Linux is much more efficient and not something needs constant trouble shooting. Basically Linux is a more mature solution.. Windows is also the reason I have 6 Hard drives. Never know when the Redmond gremlins will do their classic coding again. You have ask why is a Linux primary load 1.2Gb and Widows bloated up to 5.3Gb? Sorry Bill but your company appears to have a problem making efficient code. But you did teach them how to code.

Windows still boots in like 6-10 seconds. Not sure instant booting is necessary.

@@_nom_ Maybe why I run a 3800X at 4500Mhz? I don't want win 11 until it is finished teething. But the boot times are not the issue. The exit. restart times is about 5 times what Linux requires. Redmond is trying to make a winders iPC clone. If wanted iMAC. I would have bought one. Winders is mostly for the olde lady. Her "games" don't work in Linux. i wonder why?

@@_nom_ The six to ten seconds is the cached version. Try the Control key shutdown, let it go cold, then start it, see how long it takes.

agreed, and same for this comment *applauds*

he literally did blabber for like 2 minutes

Dude did u seriously try to eat the freaking video XD

@@Ugh718 yeah don't you eat videos for a living

Great to hear!

is it practically an issue these days? i have been using my laptop for 2.5 years (16 GB RAM and 128 GB SSD) and hibernate basically everyday. The diagnostics app says that only ~25% of the SSD's "write cycles" (? or something like that) has been worn out... so atleast in my case i dont feel that hibernation would be problematic

when you say that, do you mean it causes problems when it's enabled or only when you use it?

@@SreenikethanI 25% of the "terabytes written" or TBW perhaps? That is the total amount of data one can write to the SSD during its lifetime. 25% of TBW used up in 2.5 years implies it might fail after 10 years. May I ask what model of SSD you are using? BTW, not all SSDs are created equal. If one expects to write lots of data, look at the specs before buying. There are models with TBW in the petabytes.

I always disable hibernate, sleep, fast startup, and fast shutdown options. My PC is on or off. And it'll always give fresh boots and no hibernate writes.

Question does a restart restore the stored memory of the hibernation file, if not is there any way to free it back up from using hibernate?

He’s an absolute rockstar at communicating.

I have no idea why he didn't add this as an option in the video, the best way around this is to simply remove it and he dose not show that. That command just straight up removes that files and its features from your PC which is the whole point of this video of showing the benefits to removing it.

I always use the sleep mode and restart now end then to refresh the system. Should be fine since sleep uses the RAM, right?

@@derkevevin You should still use the command above though, especially if you never use hibernate.

@@derkevevin Absolutely fine, but disabling the hibernate file will also free up a little bit of space on the C drive if that's something you're into!

@@TheMrZ100 because he's that kind of expert.

Huh? Didn't you watch or listen? He clearly pointed out that Restart bypasses Fast Start.

@@burnsyd17 you cant tick it off its grayed out

@@laoch5658 You have to click on "Change settings that are currently unavailable" then you can uncheck it.

You can also, usually, disable the fast startup option in your bios.

@@burnsyd17: Looks like Frank already knows that, duh.

Welcome aboard and thank YOU for hanging out here!

Yep! This is also why I restart sometimes

What is?

What is your os?

Sorry,got that it’s windows

use hibernate for safety way now or just shutdown as normal? sorry im little bit confuse

thanks Chuck!

Yeah this guy is great

"powercfg /h off" in an admin CMD is what i use cos i dont need hibernate and it disables fast startup as well 😉

This is not universally true. I have laptops that take about 15 seconds to cold boot and about 3 seconds to boot from hibernate. Agreed that most tower-style machines won't see a difference, but I suspect some BIOSes are optimized for the laptop it's in. My ASUS BIOS machine makes no significant difference, but also spends about 40 seconds either way.

That’s not how redundancy works.

@@darrennew8211 40 seconds isn’t that bad IMO

Yeah, it's redundant , and mislabeled. Use one or the other

@@violent_bebop9687 not how redundant works

That's the same thing for me. That's mind boggling to realize that things have been completely switched around and I never was even aware of it

Windows 95 had two restart methods. There was a warm restart where the GUI would close and it would start from DOS again (i.e. when you change the color depth of your monitor) and there was a cold reboot where you rebooted DOS and Windows. Difference was, did you the BIOS or did it only show a text mode line with something like "Restarting windows". Before ATX, even better was to shut down, wait for the Safe to power off message and hit Reset on the case, that way you were sure to have the RAM cleared. I sometimes was able to play DOS games that won't run in the DOS Box of WIn95 with sound cards that came with no DOS drivers by loading the drivers in Windows and the drivers would actually survive a cold reboot.

It's crazy. Why doesn't Microsoft include a "Full Shutdown" menu item? I understand that they want to limit options (limit clutter) wherever possible but when it results in the computer doing something different from what most users assume that it would do, that's not useful. Win11 has taken this objective so far that many things that used to be one or two clicks away are now buried. (For a long time, I've been using Win-r shutdown /s /f /t 0 when I want to fully shut down but if shift-shutdown is the same, that's faster..)

@@brianwest2775 Because this is a marketing trick to make it seem like it boots faster than for example Windows 7 to make people think that it's better.

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awesome - thank YOU for being here!

@@FlyboyHelosim you have to know to even ask 🤦 and thanks for sharing your valuable insight. You can piss off now

I became aware of this only a few weeks ago and discovered that there are 5 levels or type of shutdown. For me it is desirable to keep it on fast start because certain software (mostly peripherals) keep resetting themselves every time I went into full shutdown mode. One fix I found was logging out and back in again fixed everything but since using fast start I don't have to do this anymore.

@@TheRatlord74 For me this was something that I had not paid much attention to, and this video was certainly able to bring me up to speed

@@markcondrey2297 like you I have been in the game for years and unfortunately gone are the days when we actually knew what our computer were up to. It's quite surprising what your computer can do when it's not even switched on. that's why these shutdown features exist and probably why most are not aware of them. Anyway my tinfoil hat need adjusting.

With the operating system on an SSD, shutdowns and restarts are fast, so you won't even need the hibernate file and can be deleted with a similar command: powercfg /h /off

Awesome tutorial. Thanks!

Exactly, both functions do exactly what they are supposed to - shut down the computer or restart the operating system.

Aaaaaand why not deactivating hibernation altogether? Would've been smarter than just reducing it to an useless size lol.

I think it's because there's a minimum requirement and since your PC only has 8 GB reducing that will not be enough to hibernate therefore Windows disables it.

Thank you sooooo much! I reduced the size and then followed loads of instructions to try get hibernate back. Nothing worked until I found your suggestion. Much appreciated👏👏👏

This video has the most valuable comments. Thanks for testing both ways and sharing.

I recently took my computer to the shop for some glitches with Windows 10 such as Desktop Windows Manager memory leak and forked out $200. After getting it back I found that Desktop Windows Manager still has a memory leak, which the only way to remedy it is to hit reset. The shop guy also tried to get me to replace the hard drive with a solid state drive for an additional $100 but I said I do believe in fixing something that is not broken.

All you have to do is restart your computer every few days and you won't have any problems. The restart button shuts everything down (including the kernel) and restarts it all again. I thought everyone knew this

@@SMartinTX The SSD makes the boot process a LOT faster in Windows 10; not all that different in 7. The reason is that Windows 10 is very sloppy in task management and assumes you have an SSD so it throws everything at it in parallel. SSD does not care but spin disk can really only service one task at a time and jumping among them wastes a LOT of time. When it came time to replace the hard drive in my HP laptop, that drive is no longer available so I was compelled to go SSD. Time to be ready to work went from about 30 minutes to 2 minutes. Oh, it would give me a login screen quick enough, then it would index the disk, do an antivirus sweep, stuff like that which makes the hard disk so busy that forget running a Zoom meeting until about 20 minutes have elapsed. But a fairly simple swap followed by not so simple sector for sector copy (using Linux and DD) and it works like a charm and usually I can do Zoom in two minutes from start up. Unless there's an update! SSD can and will be SLOWER than a spin disk if you are copying into it large numbers of small files.

Glad it helped! and yeah I just moved into my new studio and its not all set up yet but also, this is real-life so who cares lol

Personally I agree, but your mum called and said you can't go out to play until you tidy your room 😉

Yeah at some point, though I almost never reach that point. Normally hit an update before something breaks. Means I only get about a month between shutdowns since security update comes the second tuesday of each month. Though I have ignored it for up to a full extra month before actually updating.

Restarting allows the PC to finish updates. Shut down just tells the computer to stop everything and turn off, which is like clearing your desk off and starting a new day instead of piling more stuff on a crowded desk. Bad programming creates memory leaks, and a shutdown is the best method of clearing those up. A restart will not always release allocated memory in RAM.

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I did not get it... why is it?

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