Don't waste your money on this! 

I agree. It's like sitting across the table from him, just talking product. He's great

I was about to communicate exactly this. Totally agree. Love the wink*wink jokes. 😜 "How many guys have heard that before?" LoL

Talks at you or down to you? I have not heard a reviewer who makes me feel like they are talking at or down to me. Grow a pair.

I agree but needs to slow down a bit. Talking to a friend is slightly different to talking to an unknown audience. Slow the speech down a bit Phil and you'll be great!

@@anvilcatcher213 I watch Ben Shapiro, so Phil is just fine comparatively 😀

"This sucks! 😁👍"

@@analogicparadox I don't think this is how bad news should be presented.

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4060ti review be like

Phil would make an interesting hitman with that attitude! 😁

That's what VR does to you.

Idk what you're talking about, looks studly as ever!

Jay actually looks unwell

when did jay start wearing fitted caps?

Too much bud light

I was just thinking the same thing!It's definitely noticeable that he is much more comfortable in this video...He did a great job

I suspect a large part of his comfort here in this video is the subject matter - he's CLEARLY pretty damn passionate and interested in VR lol, I bet Phil could just talk about it for hours

Yes. Still has to tone down a bit (but not eliminate) the nervous chuckles at the end of sentences, but leave just a tad of them - they are part of his uniqueness. We are seeing a good presenter in the making. Hopefully having two presenters in the channel will enable producing more content.

I found his forced laughter and flippant negativity incredibly irritating; I stopped watching the video about 50% of the way through because of this.

@@davidgriffin79 Apparently it's a crappy product, I would be worried if he wasn't negative about it...He is not a seasoned presenter and is just learning the ropes so I don't mind cutting some slack...

Mutiny!

Nah. I come here for Jay. 😅

Good to know from someone who tried it. I suppose the comfort is ok? (with the top head strap on). Curious what do you think of the screen quality, I don't know since there is no local dimming or oled, would it not be as great in year 2023? (its weird old vive has oled before). also is the 90 hz sufficient...feels like need 120hz to reduce dizziness

HTC will sooner disappear in VR market

Agreed, its one review im very excited yet nervous about

The Quest 3 looks very promising. Can't wait for it to be released this fall.

It has FaceBook ties. That's the end of the review. No sane person would buy that. Twatter and FeceBook are tainted products that the general consumer should stay away from. Not just because of the disease that runs them, but also because this is yet another case where unity should keep us all away for the greater good. You'd think "pre-ordering games" would've taught people to know better about consumer practices, but it seems it's still not an ingrained thing yet. The rules ain't that complicated either: Don't buy from psychopaths, don't buy from abusers, don't buy from people who make it their business to hurt others.

@@aserta preordering games is great (you can refund it anyway). Twitter is great (the only major social network with some freedoms left). Meta VR is great (spending lots of R&D money and moving the industry).

yea im happy with my Quest Pro, (even though the Quest3 appears to make it seem like i overpayed) but i have to admit that the value of the Index, now having been on people's machines for 3-4 years, is just incredible. It makes me wish i had just bit the bullet years back and bought the Index and not been intimidated by what seemed like SO MUCH money back then at a 1000$ lol

The Index is just amazing, worth every penny. The fact that a 4 year old VR headset is still the #1 just goes to show that Valve never cuts corners. I even broke my right hand Index controller and then sent a free replacement even though they didn't need to. I can't wait for the Index 2 / Deckard

Whats the best new headset to get? Around 1k $?

I love my index, bought it to replace my rift s that was dying on me from a bad cable or female displayport connector. Bought a full kit refurb'd from GameStop actually for 750$ and wish I would have bought it sooner. The controllers are fantastic and I love the lighthouses vs inside out tracking. Was wanting to hold off buying a headset before the next generation of VR came but, needed a replacement ASAP for sim racing and I'm not disappointed with the index even if it's a bit "outdated."

​@@cyclechris6591 It depends on what you are looking for. The "best" VR headset is the Valve Index, BUT it is a PCVR headset. If you don't have a $2000+ PC to run the games, the headset is useless to you. I own both an Index and a Quest 2. I spent far more on the Index, but I use the Quest 2 more lately. For anyone getting into VR i would say get a Quest 2, or if you can wait, get the Quest 3 when it comes out in like 4 months. It looks worth the $500. But if you have a gaming PC already, and want to experience the benefit of Valve Index's controllers... go for it, it's $1000 ish

It's also possible that they started with a concept that just didn't fully develop to the extent that they expected. There's a definite focus on this being compact and lightweight, and that starts with the diopters that [on paper] make this size & weight shrink possible. Of course they have a price target that they have to hit(it's already $1k, even if it lived up to what it says on paper going beyond $1k would still be a steep ask), so at some point you've gotta draw the line on development(not to mention 'time = money', so development can't continue forever). I honestly think that HTC thought that the tech was their to pull this type of headset off, and, as they're creeping up on the need to release this product(so it [hopefully] doesn't end up in the red when it's all said and done; companies need to make some profit on this stuff to justify further investment of course), they were probably coming to terms that this isn't going to be what they set out to create. I very well may be wrong, but this kind of thing happens, especially with young, evolving, bleeding edge tech like VR. Clearly a total dud though - I really doubt that either the execs or the engineers had sought out to produce an arguably worse headset than their previous generation offerings.

@@RyTrapp0 With all the features this VR headset lacks, I would not even give it 50 bucks to be honest.

The problem is that Meta has a bunch of money and can always sell at cost. With a Quest Pro selling for ~$1600, this isn't a bad alternative to a Quest Pro, but when the Quest Pro is cheaper why buy this headset? HTC Vive keeps on trying to compete with Meta but doesn't have the resources to do so. They need to do something that Meta isn't doing, because Meta will always be able to outmatch them on price and hardware.

@@Superkia75 The problem is people like you have little to know understanding on who their target is. Their target is people who don't want facebook in charge of their devices. People like you are willing to have facebook say at any point we don't like what you said so we banned your account so now your 1600 vr set is dead also because you're required to have a facebook account to use it.

@@Superkia75 Obviously you can't match the price of devices with spyware on it to offset the cost

Yeah but think about how much the bsvr headset costs, then add the price of basestations, controllers and a very beefy computer to it. looking at like 3k easy but we are comparing it to 1k headsets that are all in one (not that I think either are a great value/the must have).

​@@mromutt so you get useless controllers and camera tracking for ~$300 less. What a deal.

@@Silverhks useless controllers? Also $700 less

@@Silverhks The Bigscreen beyond with audio is 1500 EURO after that add the controllers and Base Station. Thats makes it a 2000 + euro headset. so its alot more expensive compare to the VIVE XR Elite. But its look like a great headset for people who are already in the steamvr ecosystem

@@namegoeshere197 changing the units doesn't change the price. They are roughly the same price for what you have to buy. If you need base stations and controllers the price goes up but you will have a system that you will use. Unlike this hunk of junk.

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@@blazed85 wow that helped a lot.

@@PatchedUpGaming u need to stop

@@iitsMeStorm What do you mean he needs to stop? Not having timestamps on videos on a channel with 3.9 mil subscribers is just lazy af ! Stop normalizing this !!!!

@@ACFUN34 YOU NEED TO STOP TO

Have you owned a index before this headset?

@@JC-nm2jg Nope, this is my first vr headset.

2 years... U mean

@@gaz8600 Nah... Q2 release 3 yrs ago this summer and Q1 4 years ago this past month... time flies when you're havin fun!!

I love meta's headsets. Say what you want about the Zuck, he can deliver a great product

@@Christian-ry3ol Say what you want about Zuck, but he can buy a company that makes a great product. Guarantee he doesn't even know Oculus exists outside of a tidbit in the annual meeting.

Just a heads up! Gamestop just dropped the price of the Refurbished full Valve Index kit, base stations and all, to $599. I have and old Vive so I just recently bought the Knuckles controllers which are awesome btw, and now they just dropped the headset by itself, to $249.99. My hand is literally trembling over the mouse button haha I don't know if I'm going to be able to stop myself haha!