Dota 2 Heroes and Their Jobs 

That makes sense. IO would fit Amplifiers REALLY well, since it's the embodiment of Amplifying other heroes' potential.

I agree with vision; I always referred to that role as Scouts. Amplifiers I think i would just put in the category that they are amplifying.

As I remember PPD usually drafted for vision as an EG captain back then so it's quite important.

Nobody plays Tinker in Herald / Guardian. The last time I remember seeing one was probably me playing.

Nyx players: why?

learn to counter him there s nothing wrong with the hero that s why they created spirits to counter high mobility heroes like qop puck tinker

Treant spammers: I'm really freaking out

pretty sure for an entire year straight I banned tinker every single game because i got owned by it twice lol.

Funny thing is Im so new to dota that I dont know if cancer is an actual term lmao

Bkb

*borrowed time*

ehem enigma

@@TinyCloud90 bkb is a counter to a disable spelled.. but if u are already disable, there is almost no counter.

Jenkins wants pudge all to himself. More pudge spammers = a sad Jenkins

Well it's gonna be incredibly tough, with 100+ heroes each falling in more than one job. It's gonna be hell long of a list. However, You may find Dota itself has applied some of these jobs in-game, the table of that online might help.

Vision heroes are definitely an archetype, though I would count them slightly differently than you. Luna for example is definitely not a vision hero, despite her circumstantial vision advantage, because her vision advantage doesn't mean that she positions to enable her team through vision. I would consider vision heroes to be basically anyone with flying vision (nightstalker, batrider, monkey king, beast master), anyone invisible who doesn't need to be farming (bounty hunter & nyx but not riki / clinkz), and anyone who can have vision of an area without putting their hero in danger (veno, clock, kinda brood & furion, even techies). I think generally something that is true for most of these heroes is that they are a much bigger threat to the enemy team if they are off map, because then they can set up ganks with their vision advantage, which is why vision heroes prefer to be heroes that don't constantly want to farm. If your hero is often showing on lane and farming (luna), I just wouldn't consider that a vision hero, because you're not using the vision ability to your team's vision advantage. However a beast master can show on lane and farm while using his hawk for vision somewhere else, that I do think is a vision hero. Hope that helps!

Bloodseeker is the best vision

@@nemmielicious i hope this gets included in the video. I think they are a very useful archetype especially in tournaments

They are important but not every single game. I'd say i would love to have a vision hero if i am playing against tinket so i can find him and kill him but idc about vision if I'm playing against medusa ember spirit for example

Yeap, In my head. I call them scouts, I usually play treant, hoodwink and bounty just to scout and put some deep wards.

Totally. I'll make my own.

Not really a role tho. Role is how you play around the hero, you dont play around the hero just because it has buffs.

yeah except mirana, her ult isn't a a good counter initiating spell

@@k0kiss i mean it can be more of a sustain/reset after level 15 or just a reset in lower level dota ;)

Yes, there is description that explain what kind of hero it is, eg, support, disabler, nuker etc

im in

How effectively execute dawn breaker? For an easy difficulty hero, the spells are pretty hard to execute :(

@@bang.marcel0 I'm not sure about other roles, as a 4/5 she's pretty comfortable for me. All I have to do is follow up to an ally initiate or pressure the enemy team. Midgame I just flash farm waves and enemy camps and swoop to any ally in need of heal/evasion/initiate. I can give you tips if you're gonna run her support, apart from that, you gotta ask someone else.

@@jhxe i’m a support too! I’ve tried playing her but the spells feels so clunky sometimes. And at times in my crusader rank, having a follow up is great and all but there are no one to start the stun anyway hahaha

Just apply pressure to enemy supports/carries whenever you get the chance to. As a support, trees should be your best friends, get a quelling blade if you need to make your own pathways. Always take the chance to deal some heavy damage when you are in kissing range of a. Enemy Support or b. Enemy Carry (never try both at the same time). Don't mind it if your carry refuses to follow up, especially when playing 5, you just need to make space for your carry to farm, and deny the enemy's chance to apply pressure/farm. When playing as position 4 what you wanna be doing is contesting pulls by casting W before the pull timer, and pull your camp if it's a little overextended. Try for possible ganks at minute 4/6/8 by contesting runes, but if your lane is going really really good, you don't have to sacrifice that. Always remember to smoke when you move away from your lane pre-level 6. As a position 5, you should do the same and apply pressure to the enemy and stay in your jungle to not leech EXP from the carry as well as counter-pull the enemy and pull the lane on your side. Remember to ward the high ground to be aware of any incoming gank, that also applies being near the river area to break any potential smoke. ITS VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW that in both roles, you have to ALWAYS deal damage. You don't have any protection skill outside your ult, so if you can't deal damage, then you're pretty useless. Before midgame starts, you can stack up any camps you come across to, (as a 4, just stack ancient everytime your mana is like below 200) if your carry doesn't want it, you can take it once your W is level 4. If your carry moves to the jungle early, just help him clear and steer away for EXP leech, unless its a stack you both are taking then just don't take any gold. In midgame, your main priority is to build Aghanims, the only thing making this stupid DB support work. It provides 60% evasion on allies aswell as 3x heal from base amount. You can flash farm any camp with your Q and W given your W is at max level. Just remember to not take any camps from the carry. You should farm only on free lanes (usually the mid) deadlanes (safe lane/broken tower), enemy camps and nearby warded areas. If you die while warding, then just suck it up and try the next area, just don't make it a habit of dying-warding. Lategame is out of your control, you're easily defeated by Spirit Vessel and MKBs so just assist whatever your carries are doing, be it tanking, dishing out damage, cancelling channel spells, OH-KOing the enemy support. Try T1.Whitemon's gameplays/streams for references or for low-budget you can use mine: [Match: 6300402807] and [Match: 6271841574]. It was only through Whitemon that I saw this working and I'm moved, to be honest. Cheers to any improvements you take!

Broken = passives dont work for the duration of the break. Eg PA's passive evasion stops working if she's hit by hoodwink ult and doesn't work until the break debuff is gone.

Beast master toi

It's almost like drafting in your pub games and drafting done by a pro team are different

Techies category is kaboom, torture

rtz style boi 🚄

You shoot you ulti on the enemy backliner or other important target that gets easier to kill so your team jumps on the enemy team. I would not call this initiation in a 5v5 situation but shrapnel, ulti makes a PA's job much easier in for example a 2v2 situation, that gets to be a 2v1 very fast.

@@NosztraiAdam thank you king this makes a lot of sense