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Double Unboxing! Double Regret? Seiko 'Willards' SPB151 + SPB153 

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Back to the future, or back to 'Nam? As will be explained, this one should really have preceded the 153 review but Mr X doesn't have quite the pull he thinks he has! Will mine survive until the SOTC video next week? Stay tuned to find out......... Cheers, Jody

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Комментарии : 597   
@ElijsDima
@ElijsDima 3 года назад
Seiko is awesome. Very few companies allow you to buy a thousand dollar lottery ticket.
@jaquino6786
@jaquino6786 3 года назад
Lmao this sums it up nicely. I really want to like these new releases.
@zman8340
@zman8340 3 года назад
It’s funny when he said that I was like yep thats exactly how I used to feel . Then I quit buying them .
@misterman1371
@misterman1371 3 года назад
@@julioalbino9714 Seiko has poor quality control
@daveg7894
@daveg7894 3 года назад
Yup garbage quality control, and their movements are wildly inconsistent, atleast in my experience.
@roadgent7921
@roadgent7921 3 года назад
Seiko can go drink a gallon of piss as far as I'm concerned. I've got 9 Seikos - mix of autos and quartz; all of them bar 2 had some defects and/or stopped working. Exceptions being an early 80s secondhand 7548 and a Sportura ana-digi from early 2000s. I'm now buying F91s and other cheap Casios and putting new batteries into 30 year old Casio DWs which fire up like they were brand new - what a hoot.
@xxraverxxonxtacy
@xxraverxxonxtacy 3 года назад
Battle of the Willards: Seiko vs Chinese Specials homages, you need to make it happen just like the Submariner homage comparison. Thanks Jody.
@MrJohnnyorange
@MrJohnnyorange 3 года назад
@James Blonde San Martin OR Steeldive would win! Only if they can come up with an olive coloured face and bezel though.
@erikbasil2787
@erikbasil2787 3 года назад
This makes a lot of sense, actually. Good idea
@maxp5422
@maxp5422 3 года назад
Seiko has much better steel you can't compare Chinese steel is cheap and not cured there are reasons they can do these cheap cases.
@MrJohnnyorange
@MrJohnnyorange 3 года назад
@munchkin42 With such a price difference! Who cares?
@MrJohnnyorange
@MrJohnnyorange 3 года назад
@@maxp5422 I'm wearing a Seagull 1963 at the moment, can't see anything wrong with the case strangely!
@12thsonofthelama86
@12thsonofthelama86 3 года назад
That price!The Horror..the Horror!😂
@JohnKruse
@JohnKruse 3 года назад
Seiko started trying to move up market.... After that, their, uh, ideas, methods, became... unsound.
@dparis2172
@dparis2172 3 года назад
Well played, sir.
@badbegetsbad
@badbegetsbad 3 года назад
I wanted a Seiko..... and for my sins, they gave me one. Brought it up to me like room service.
@Bierkameel
@Bierkameel 3 года назад
5:30 My problem with a 1000$ Seiko is that it looks like any 200$ Seiko. Also a pin and collar bracelet is a shame for this price.
@patrickriarchy6054
@patrickriarchy6054 3 года назад
Pin and collars are pretty secure compared to just cotter pins but they are such a pain in the balls to size. The only other pin system that is a bigger pain are the twin screw pins on a Marathon
@a_single_white_female
@a_single_white_female 3 года назад
What specifically do you find "inferior" with pin and collars? I think they are better than screws. Easy to put in, completely secure, and no mucking about with loctite. I don't see how they are functionally inferior in any way.
@gs6810
@gs6810 3 года назад
Exactly, i bought a 400$ seiko and feel the same way. I would be pissed if it had been a G.
@tynchytemper9618
@tynchytemper9618 3 года назад
Don't understand the love for screw pins, as found in my 30 quid Air King from Aliexpress?
@Alias_Anybody
@Alias_Anybody 3 года назад
@@a_single_white_female Quickly using a small screwdriver is just more pleasant and elegant than pushing or hammering out a steel rod?
@kostya121212
@kostya121212 3 года назад
Can`t wait for the Seiko vs STEELDIVE Willard video !!!
@b.vonschnauser207
@b.vonschnauser207 3 года назад
Never. Not at half the price. Seiko has balls...
@jollyrob
@jollyrob 3 года назад
Seiko are the only brand where homage versions of their watches are the sensible and often recommended option. Fanboys only for this one.
@jfilm7466
@jfilm7466 3 года назад
I was gutted after buying a Turtle, it was boyhood grail watch. Then I saw the "homages" with aligned chapter rings and the lumed bezel. I love my turtle, but sometimes that misalignment makes me sad even after 3 years. I've got a 70s automatic Timex which gains 2 seconds per day which is better than my turtle. I'm not sure if I will be buying Seiko again until they get their QC sorted.
@WatchAddictionReviews
@WatchAddictionReviews 3 года назад
indeed
@BoogurTWang
@BoogurTWang 3 года назад
shoulda bougt a Heimdallr or SteelDive or another 'homage'.
@piansopian4069
@piansopian4069 3 года назад
I have a heimdallr 007 and it looks far more expensive than the skx007..
@erikbasil2787
@erikbasil2787 3 года назад
Yeah, it seems like the homage versions are actually better. I have a Heimdallr 6105 on a three link bracelet, waiting for me to unbox when I get home off the road. I have to admit, my expectations are high: they do nice work and they regulate the calibers. I'll bet you everything will line up, too.
@Robin6512
@Robin6512 3 года назад
I really like Seiko. That said an out of the box citizen diver of 300$ is never a lottery ticket nor off beat and they run flawlessly.
@jasongennero2080
@jasongennero2080 3 года назад
That's Cuz citizen is actually a decent brand that cares about customer satisfaction.unlike trash seiko.what happened seiko?you went from beating or the Swiss at their own game to rampant qc issues on watches u charge 1000 bucks for that don't even have a signed crown.the seiko 5 atlas has a signed crown for godsakes man!
@jeff1176
@jeff1176 3 года назад
@@jasongennero2080 thats why I'm looking elsewhere for my next mid-level watch. I might just save my money and go to into the upper mid level watches.
@royroblox
@royroblox 3 года назад
I'm with you about Citizen. I initially liked a greater percentage of Seiko's styling and ignored Citizen for a while, but then found a couple Eco-Drives that had the looks I wanted -- and both are flawless.
@S-Ltd1000
@S-Ltd1000 3 года назад
@@royroblox agreed. I've had a promaster Aqualand for 25 years and it's still running fine. Also picked up a new eco drive Aqualand bn2039 a few weeks back, stunning watch
@zman8340
@zman8340 3 года назад
@@jeff1176 that’s what I do
@masudaharris6435
@masudaharris6435 5 месяцев назад
The Willard is one watch that I prefer with rubber straps. The stainless bracelet looks like it came from another, non-dive, watch.
@RyTyme
@RyTyme 3 года назад
A Seiko where everything lines up?!? Huh, are you sure it's not fake? lol
@christianvogler7867
@christianvogler7867 3 года назад
I ordered a feiko off of wish out of curiosity and no joke, the chapter ring and hands were aligned better than any authentic seiko I’ve ever owned. It’s honestly a reasonable question to consider with these 😂
@andrewd7586
@andrewd7586 3 года назад
It’s a Seiko HOMAGE!!!🤣
@Robin6512
@Robin6512 3 года назад
that would be like a Mazda mx5 that doesn't make a noise.... :P
@Televisiontechnology
@Televisiontechnology 3 года назад
I had to get my eyesight checked to be sure ;-)
@sanjaysubraidu7617
@sanjaysubraidu7617 3 года назад
Saw this watch 2 days back at the Seiko boutique and alignment was OFF !!!
@edwardcrater3591
@edwardcrater3591 3 года назад
Seiko, Seiko, Seiko. A thousand bucks and you still can't get it right. 😢
@eushan
@eushan 3 года назад
I've bought the blue willard for 1600 usd (such a price in my country) and i'm completely satisfied. I put seiko 5, the turtle and the willard together on a table and saw the noticeable difference. Willard looks like a high quality watch. Even my wife who knows nothing about watches told the willard is probably the most expensive one. In the same time it is the smallest watch. Even in comparing with seiko 5 the bezel of the willard looks a bit smaller. If u buy blue willard u get additional silicon strap, 6r35 caliber with 70 hours of moving, sapphire, diashield (it works), a piece of history and personal number of yours limited edition watch. Does it worth it? I'm sure it does. Thats why i buy watches. But if u want "just a not overpriced watch" u can buy Mi band or something like that. It's also telling the time.
@bignz721
@bignz721 3 года назад
Bought a SteelDive 1970 Willard homage a month ago. Been my daily beater & I cannot endorse it enough. With an NH35 movement, it is essentially a Seiko. Highly recommended!
@PaulewingStHelens
@PaulewingStHelens 3 года назад
I’ve been in two minds over this watch. I’ve got the SteelDive version and just love wearing it but it’s always in the back of my mind it isn’t a seiko . Watching both your videos now on this has pretty much convinced me it’s not worth a thousand quid. I’m going to stick with the homage. It’s got a seiko movement in it anyway and the bezel is ceramic where’s the seiko is aluminium. Plus that reading on the Timegrapher is shocking. A thousand pounds? I don’t think so. Thanks for helping me make my mind up. Excellent video.
@JustOneMoreWatch
@JustOneMoreWatch 3 года назад
Not worth it mate. Which is a real shame!
@MrFredrictai
@MrFredrictai 3 года назад
Yeah, I am happy with my Steeldive too, just wish that the power reserve is a bit longer, otherwise it is a great 6105 homage!
@bert2530
@bert2530 3 года назад
Wel, reading this i think i just wil sit and wait for the mail the rest of the day. As i am expecting my Steeldive in the next 24 hours.
@kenpickett9317
@kenpickett9317 3 года назад
I got the Steeldive version with a sapphire crystal, ceramic bezel, Seiko movement and machined from a freaken solid lump of bronze for less than 1/4 of the price of one of these!
@hopiamongo8119
@hopiamongo8119 3 года назад
@@JustOneMoreWatch the day is coming when seiko starts suing all this homage watches because people are buying the knockoffs
@Bugster987
@Bugster987 3 года назад
Extremely happy with mine. Runs perfect (0 +/- spd). Everything lines up. I think the bracelet is decent too but like it on an uncle Seiko rubber best.
@3rdpig
@3rdpig 3 года назад
I'm wearing the Steel Dive Willard as I'm watching this. Maybe I just lucked out, but it's pretty amazing for $100.
@pb8153
@pb8153 3 года назад
It’s an awesome and better watch at 1/10th of the price - only the fanboys and people who don’t know any better are buying this Seiko version
@3rdstone1
@3rdstone1 3 года назад
Same here. Great watch for the buck.
@maxp5422
@maxp5422 3 года назад
What about originality?
@pb8153
@pb8153 3 года назад
@@maxp5422 well how original is it for seiko to reissue an old design and charge a small fortune for it? I know what you mean of course and I am being a little sarcastic!
@Alexander-rz4br
@Alexander-rz4br 3 года назад
I have one as well. Fantastic watch. The bracelet of the Steeldive even looks better than Seiko's effort
@JasonTheWatchGuy
@JasonTheWatchGuy 3 года назад
Love the history behind this model and they fit very nicely to wrist, I just dont think I'd ever want to own one myself!
@balthus9265
@balthus9265 3 года назад
Congratulations for another great unboxing video ! I always appreciate when you put the watch on the timegrapher, one of the aspects that sets you apart from the dozens of youtubers that keeps mumbling their thoughts on the watch with few or any useful information.
@adamski101
@adamski101 Год назад
Each movement is different though in regard to accuracy so it is pretty meaningless.
@syncro16se
@syncro16se 3 года назад
The design is absolutely wonderful.. thanks Seiko. I have four of Steeldives homages to the 6105. Black, blue, green and a black/bronze. I've had them for a couple of months. Only problem is from day to day deciding which of them to wear 😃 absolutely wonderful. I don't own a seiko original. Thanks for the video, good as usual. 👍🌟🌟🌟
@calnative4904
@calnative4904 3 года назад
Not a fan of Seiko’s, but I am a big fan of Citizen dive watches.
@duncanb1981
@duncanb1981 3 года назад
Under appreciated and overlooked. They certainly deserve more attention.
@boutchmanz
@boutchmanz 3 года назад
Thanks for the honest review- you helped me dodge a thousand dollar bullet!
@varanid9
@varanid9 3 года назад
I had both. Both are beautiful, flawless, the polish of the steel is unlike anything I've seen (I think it's the Dia-shield, which I can vouch works great). I put the bracelet on the green one and kept it, but flipped the black one as I honestly preferred my Merkur because: IMHO, the indices reflect better so that the dial looks more iconically "6105-ish" to me (I think the size difference partially accounts for it, and the heightened polish too) and, for some weird reason, the black on the dial looks faded, and I don't mean very dark gray, it just looks like Seiko tried to make it look aged or something. And they're all like that so it is apparently intentional. Yet, no "faux patina" on the markers. Not sure what they were thinking there. The sunburst olive green on the "hulk" version is beautiful, though, and the indices show up better and the bracelet is possibly the best Seiko has ever made, giving my Marinemaster 300 bracelet a run for its money. Only minor complaint is that the end links aren't solid.
@kristoffertmmerbakk1602
@kristoffertmmerbakk1602 2 года назад
Awesome review! I have the SPB237J1 and Ive been wearing it for almost 2 months straight, witch is unusual for me since i tend to change watches daily. I love the NATO strap's that comes with it. Only issue with it is that it wears a little high on the wrist since the NATO strap is thicker then the straps I am used to. I have been lusting for a SPB153J1, the olive green basel and dial is amazing and the rubber strap make the watch hug the wrist really nice. Keep the Seiko reviews coming!
@denniscrowley8517
@denniscrowley8517 3 года назад
I’ve had a San Martin homage,with signed crown for a year and a half now that I thoroughly enjoy. Royal blue on a jubilee bracelet. Cheers.
@geordiebatt
@geordiebatt 3 года назад
I just got the Steeldive "Willard" recently for £89. It's really good, very happy with it.
@Todd_Whitehouse
@Todd_Whitehouse 3 года назад
I was hoping/waiting for "Heeelllloooo and welcome to Just Two More Willards!" lol
@lastofmykind8
@lastofmykind8 3 года назад
Only have one Seiko in my collection. It was a gift from my girlfriend, awesome little quartz chronograph. For some reason every time I’m thinking about getting a Seiko for myself, something else beats it out!
@MrPleers
@MrPleers 3 года назад
Same here. I was considering this watch. But ended up buying a Hamilton. It feels I dodged a bullit after seeing the review.
@lastofmykind8
@lastofmykind8 3 года назад
@@MrPleers You’re way better off with a Hamilton over a Seiko just about any day. There are exceptions but that’s a good choice right there. What Hamilton?
@MrPleers
@MrPleers 3 года назад
@@lastofmykind8 The Pan Europ. I'm surprised that Seiko did not bother up their QC on a $1000- watch. Not to mention the unsigned crown.
@JohnBuckmaster-sw3wm
@JohnBuckmaster-sw3wm 3 года назад
Thanks Jody for a great review! This review has pointed out and reaffirmed why I have not given Seiko a purchase in well over a year. Of the more than 15 watches that I purchased this year three or more would’ve been Seiko in the past. Less-for-more...That’s what you get now from my once favorite brand. Cheers!
@jamessmith6402
@jamessmith6402 3 года назад
Absolutely fabulous watches I especially like the green rubber strap version 👍😀 thanks Jody good video
@glitchmaker
@glitchmaker 3 года назад
Discount: the most romantic word for a Scotchman
@Alias_Anybody
@Alias_Anybody 3 года назад
Can't blame them.
@Supersyncopation
@Supersyncopation 3 года назад
Scotsman . Scotch is a drink
@Alias_Anybody
@Alias_Anybody 3 года назад
@@Supersyncopation I think there's a significant overlap.
@williamrizzo1285
@williamrizzo1285 3 года назад
But "freebie" is orgasmic!
@youraveragepasser-by7367
@youraveragepasser-by7367 3 года назад
@@Supersyncopation well Scots are probably 50% scotch since they consume so much booze lmao
@situation_zero
@situation_zero 3 года назад
Put the Willard on an Uncle Seiko waffle strap. It will wear and look 1000 times better. Cheers.
@ch_the_3rd72
@ch_the_3rd72 3 года назад
Glad to see I am not the only one with Bezel OCD. Love the rubber strap. Both are great pieces
@shipmate3577
@shipmate3577 3 года назад
As a Tuna owner/fan, I feel that Seiko is increasing prices faster than they are improving quality.
@calumpatondrone
@calumpatondrone 3 года назад
Another great video! Sums up why I can never quite bring myself to spend around the £1k mark on a seiko even though I've often been tempted! We really shouldn't be feeling nervous when opening the watch box at that price for alignment issues etc. The willard does look great though!
@calumpatondrone
@calumpatondrone 3 года назад
I should say - im currently pining over the seiko sharp edge series - they look incredible!
@joegrasso8552
@joegrasso8552 3 года назад
Appreciate your honesty , just because it'sa Seiko, doesn't mean it's always a winner.
@SoCalWatchReviews
@SoCalWatchReviews 3 года назад
Another great video brother! I just got the SPB143, and you hit the nail on the head about unboxing a 1K plus watch with fear. I can tell you’re flipping that baby 😂
@gerardogarcia-trio3572
@gerardogarcia-trio3572 3 года назад
Black! Yes... Congrats, beautiful watch.
@jeditrek
@jeditrek 3 года назад
Nice unboxing and sticker peeling. I’ve got the Black Willard on bracelet and love it. Thinking of the Blue Willard. I think they are beautiful watches. Everybody can’t love the same watches otherwise life would be boring. Nice video. 👍
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR 3 года назад
This right here is exactly why I buy homages instead.
@erikbasil2787
@erikbasil2787 3 года назад
Well, here's hoping my unboxing of the Heimdallr 6105 Willard goes a bit better! I've got one on a three-link waiting for me when I get home, and in my experience it is likely to be perfectly aligned, well calibrated and gorgeous.
@jordancalvey
@jordancalvey 3 года назад
Both of these watches are real beauties. However from reading the comments here, it seems a real shame that Seiko are losing so many Seiko enthusiast customers, to Chinese made homage watches. Surely it couldn't be so difficult to get it right at this price if the Chinese can more often than not do so at a much lower price. My SPB149J1 has the same issue with the bracelet clasp, slight misalignment of the lume pip on the triangle, movement accuracy is fine but now I would be scared to see what it's like on a timegrapher. All said and done though it is my favourite watch and I love the feeling I get when wearing it. Another very enjoyable video Jody, looking forward to your SOTC video.
@craig2100
@craig2100 3 года назад
Thanks for sharing. I'll look forward to the flipping video for the Willard..cheers mate.
@eggsII
@eggsII 3 года назад
What does snow on the time grapher mean?
@seranadesongs
@seranadesongs 3 года назад
It's nice Jody, just don't think I'd spend a grand for it...
@El1988Che
@El1988Che 3 года назад
The snow is because of the cloth you used. I was having similar issues until I removed the cloth lol
@bogrot69
@bogrot69 3 года назад
Me: "When I was a kid, the term 'Made in Japan' had serious negative connotations" Seiko: "Hold my Sapporo!"
@shaagaknowsyou5295
@shaagaknowsyou5295 3 месяца назад
Sapporo is disgusting
@ald4104
@ald4104 3 года назад
Is the lug to lug like the skx013 ? I like it a lot, but I am afraid the watch will be too big on me
@twinvader_
@twinvader_ 3 года назад
I don’t regret my Steeldive SD1970 purchase at all, especially after watching this! No misalignments or BS to speak of gratefully. No wonder you were critical of the Seiko at this price point Jody! Something about this homage/re-issue just seems gutless the more I think/see about it.
@ThatGuy67672
@ThatGuy67672 3 года назад
Yay! I just bought the spb143 62mas reissue and I'm super tempted by this spb151 😁
@ezeztztz
@ezeztztz 2 дня назад
My seiko Willard was around -18 for 1st few hours,it then quickly went to +5,I’ve had it for 3 weeks now and it’s consistently +5 daily,you cannot expect it to run perfectly straight out of the box.
@gibmebalut
@gibmebalut Год назад
I don’t own a 6R, but I have had 4R movements that had a disturbing amount of noise on the time grapher when fresh out of the box. Luckily, the noise cleared up. Had a break-in period, I suppose.
@michaelkruszynski8524
@michaelkruszynski8524 3 года назад
Great video! You've convinced me that my US$134 Haimdallr 6105 homage was definitely right choice 😁
@vonyp6018
@vonyp6018 3 года назад
I own a 1969 6105. My grandfathers dive watch. The lugs are 19mm and the crown guard doesn't look right. I think the accuracy of the movement is spot on though. Lol
@renngretsch
@renngretsch 3 года назад
Got a bronze Steel Dive with all bronze bezel. Great watch. No Seiko envy at all.
@AlexanderB.
@AlexanderB. 3 года назад
Enjoy the watch Jody! Maybe it's worth giving it a try and regulating this movement to a better beat error. For some reason I prefer the green version SPB153. It also would spare you the shaky clasp. Cheers!
@balthus9265
@balthus9265 3 года назад
Jody, what rubber strap do you recomend with a good cost/ benefit ratio for a Seiko turtle ? Almost bought an uncle Seiko, but I’ve heard mixed reviews about it. Thanks !
@arigouverneur
@arigouverneur 3 года назад
What I would like to know, the back of the case is finished so nicely, rounded to the caseback. When I see product images of hommages, the back seems flat. Doesn't that make the watch wear less comfortable? Thanks for all the videos!
@pokie6087
@pokie6087 2 года назад
Got mine on order. I love this watch.
@rkillalea6706
@rkillalea6706 3 года назад
Still the best watch channel on RU-vid
@frankdux6930
@frankdux6930 3 года назад
And for those exact reasons... Is why i jumped ship to San Martin.
@saevans63
@saevans63 3 года назад
I like Seikos but can’t see myself getting this one. For the price you would expect the movement to be spot on with minimal beat error. I’ll stick to my Steeldive homage
@stusims6567
@stusims6567 3 года назад
I’m judging from your tone of voice that you will NOT be keeping this one. GREAT VIDEO JODY!!! 🤐😷🥴
@JustOneMoreWatch
@JustOneMoreWatch 3 года назад
SOTC coming this weekend, you'll find out!
@gnarl12
@gnarl12 3 года назад
@@JustOneMoreWatch hey, Seiko says they're moving upmarket.... Nothing mechanical under $250-$300.
@dparis2172
@dparis2172 3 года назад
@@gnarl12 Since when were there a bunch of Seiko mechanicals with retail prices of
@duk4you
@duk4you 3 года назад
Honest review again, a lot of money for a Seiko that you have pray it's ok when you open the box. A lot of micro brands are better value and build quality.i just ordered a Gruppo Gamma divemaster 2 for $530.00, they have a great reputation for quality ,ETA movement and out standing finish.
@dparis2172
@dparis2172 3 года назад
The GG is an $800-$900 watch. Plus, they are huge. It's sort of a different category.
@cloud12274
@cloud12274 Год назад
Had the sla033 for a few years now and it's build quality is mint
@rmelo5932
@rmelo5932 3 года назад
I really want the green bezel Willard, but I have put off buying because of the QC issues. Perhaps if it comes down enough in price I may still pick one up.
@tituslivius3495
@tituslivius3495 3 года назад
I love the dark green dial! I know it is not worth the money, however the design is gorgeous. Would love to see a Unimatic watch review if you can get your hands on one. Best regards!
@johncoote5134
@johncoote5134 3 года назад
Does it beat a homnage though Jody? My Steeldive for £100 looks to me just as good? I totally get the Seiko thing.... but a grand?
@EscapementWatch
@EscapementWatch 3 года назад
I reviewed the blue willard and A BIG DRAW FOR ME WAS THE ALUMINIUM BEZEL INSERT. Not a fan of BLING ceramic and sapphire inserts. My willard is doing 0s/day in 2 main positions. Sometimes Jody a watch is more then just a spec list.
@EscapementWatch
@EscapementWatch 3 года назад
Hey jody is your willard fully charged. never seen 1ms error before. Make sure to give it 100 wind ups. not the usual. the 70hr power reserve makes it a bit finicky. You think its full. then give it an extra 30 winds and think its full and yet its still not. I've been tricked a handful of times that its full and I deal with seikos everyday. so wind it up before testing. 100+ turns minimum.
@kikomachine8276
@kikomachine8276 3 года назад
Couldn't have said it any better FT!
@NexDim.
@NexDim. 2 года назад
Fully agree about the insert. All the generic ceramic comments get old. Not all watches need/ should have ceramic. Would ruin this watch IMO.
@danielhristov6175
@danielhristov6175 3 года назад
I bought myself a king turtle manta ray a few months ago. 650€ 4r36 movement and misaligned chapter ring and bezel. Hard to reason why i paid so much when my dad paid 99 for his pagani with better quality control and same specs
@n00dyl69
@n00dyl69 3 года назад
if only my wrist could wear one. love that green one.
@anthonysmith2982
@anthonysmith2982 3 года назад
Ahh Seiko! Ive spent quite some time justifying the price of my new Alpinist SPD123J (the cream and gilt dial variant) lately. The movement in it and the SPB Willard are the same and the RRP is the same ballpark. I picked up my Alpinist BNIB for $700AUD, including delivery & full warranty. I love it and I believe it's well worth the $ - in fact I reckon it's well worth the $900AUD that you can easily buy it for online now. Reason being, whenever I ask someone who's critical of the price of the Alpinist for an alternative that offers everything it offers for less $ (respected heritage brand, fully in-house ᴇᴠᴇʀʏᴛʜɪɴɢ, Japanese made, proven reliability & after sales support, easy & inexpensive servicing etc., etc.) they just look at me blankly. 🤷‍♂️ The Seiko SPB Willard does not pass that particular test IMO. I don't agree that the mm & a 1/2 missing from the case diameter is not noticeable. Put the original 6105-8110 next to the SPB and SPB looks,... all wrong. When I can pick up a San Martin Willard from AliX for $300AUD incl. express shipping, the usual shit-house buying experience is improved, but even considering that you are pretty much fucked if you have a QC issue, I didn't have any of the legitimate concerns that Jody had with his Seiko when opening my San Martin Willard. I'd much prefer to have Seiko on the dial of my Willard but I'm not going to spend over $750AUD for the privilege, especially when I think - all things considered - both watches offer about the same. Cheers mate and good vid. A.
@Throstlecock
@Throstlecock 3 года назад
My Addiesdive SD 1970(basically a Steeldive)which I bought for £72 in the Aliexpress 11.11 sale arrived yesterday.On the time grapher it shows nil beat error,nice high amplitude(301)and plus 3 seconds a day.Apart from a slightly stiff bezel,which aligns perfectly all round and which will loosen in time,there are no other QC issues,so I am very well pleased.Maybe Seiko should buy from these Chinese companies and stick their name in the dial!. Great video as usual Jody,thanks.
@mediastarguest
@mediastarguest 3 года назад
Lovely looking watch. Do you think the wobbly clasp and bracelet was just a characteristic of that one particular watch or could it be common in the 151 range ? I am thinking seriously about purchasing a Willard, if I can get hold of one for sub 900 quid / euros: Jody, is the accuracy that bad ? Cheers, guv.
@roderickos3980
@roderickos3980 3 года назад
Jody at his best. Thank you very much! I'll skip those and my guess is so will you. Cheers!
@jeeeeev
@jeeeeev Год назад
I am debating about me getting this or the SPB143 or I could just get a SRPH17 OR SRPE93. All of them looks good.
@marks2791
@marks2791 2 года назад
My Seiko Willard is perfect. Very happy with the Seiko divers at this price point. Bought a couple online. No issues at all.
@stevenglossop4274
@stevenglossop4274 Год назад
Likewise love mine too ,had a couple of homages didn’t do it for me .Quality side by side is night and day different.My bezel lines up perfectly no issues .love it
@dmks2146
@dmks2146 3 года назад
I prefer aluminium and pin and collar over ceramic and screws but at 1k the movement should really be flawless. so much competition at that price point.
@glennhancock6038
@glennhancock6038 3 года назад
Jody where is the best place to sell mid range watches such as $1k seikos?
@discount8508
@discount8508 3 года назад
my favourite seiko diver ..........smells like victory
@darrenfry4695
@darrenfry4695 2 года назад
I've got the Seiko Willard and also a steeldive homage and yep you got it the steeldive was better than the Seiko and a lot less money lol 😆
@paultaegel5641
@paultaegel5641 9 месяцев назад
This video put me off the Willard for a good while. Then I saw the blue version and had to have it! Zero regret. Mounted alternately on an Uncle Straps Z199 and a blue isofrane.
@trulsdirio
@trulsdirio 3 года назад
So basically I did good with getting a chinese special 6105. Thanks for the affirmation!
@iainrossiter758
@iainrossiter758 3 года назад
I have the black Willard X. It’s a beautiful watch. A step up in quality over my Turtles. It’s a nice homage to my original 6105-8110 but just doesn’t have the wrist presence in shape or weight to the legend. I prefer my Turtles on the wrist over the Willard X. It’s such a shame as it could have been an incredible model. I suppose they didn’t want to go near the hugely expensive limited SLA version. They all need a rubber strap as well!
@jasonhjorth1684
@jasonhjorth1684 3 года назад
Nice stuff Jody. Keep up the good work. I have bought and held off buying a couple watches based on your ‘without fear or favour’ reviews. I’ve been looking at a couple of Aussie brands like Melbourne Watch Co., Bausele, and Panzera. Could we see a couple of reviews on Aussie brands like these maybe?
@Cloxxki
@Cloxxki 3 года назад
As a silver stacker I got a belated idea today. Could a watch be made of high grade silver rather than stainless steel? Some 92.5% coins stay pretty OK over the years. It we ould add some heft and make the watch more of an investment. 5 troy ounces is $125 right now, so not too bad but could make it a bit of a baller later on. Imagine a $200 high grade Pagani silver sports watch?
@ryanthomas9306
@ryanthomas9306 2 года назад
Videos like this are the reason I bought the steel dive. Still looking into one of the new turtles if I can get a sale tho
@popdufc4139
@popdufc4139 3 года назад
Watch out for the Head Dips. Had a bit of glare of that spot at the back of your head on thr "wheel of fortune" moovie. Personally I have blinded people with my LED/HEAD combo. Nice video
@emreisiklar
@emreisiklar 3 года назад
How about the blue one?:)
@Televisiontechnology
@Televisiontechnology 3 года назад
If you put the steel dive next to the Willard you can see the size difference and also the dial size is smaller. I bought a Steeldive 6105 - good watch, for the money, I then bought a San Martin 6105 also a good watch for the money (slight alignment issues with indices at 6), then I bought a Willard as did like the other 2, but something off a little. The Willard does have better detailing and finishing on the case, the size is 2mm smaller and fits better, the box sapphire glass just pops that bit more - it all lines up correctly. So despite trying the cheaper ones - and nothing wrong with them, for me the original Willard, both fits me better (and I think) just looks that bit better. Is it worth 10 x as much? Probably not & not arguing Seiko variable quality control as seen it on other Seikos. The steel bracelet on my €390 Steinhart, is as good, probably a touch better than the one on the €1000+ Willard. Put my Willard on the San Martin rubber waffle strap (softest one out there) and very happy. Timekeeping after 1 month +2 or so a day.
@jeffone
@jeffone 3 года назад
Great video. I really wish someone would wake up over there at Seiko QC.
@auskenner
@auskenner 3 года назад
I got the blue limited edition of the Seiko x-Willard (SPB183) last week. I came with a perfectly aligned bezel and it's a great watch. But it does not get a lot of wrist time, i actually prefer my NoLogo Steeldive Willard-Hommage. To me the Seiko Willard Re-Issues are like Angelina Jolie: Nice to look at, but that's it.
@chrisb5986
@chrisb5986 3 года назад
These are gorgeous, as are the 62MAS reissues. I wish the movements weren't rubbish. My $75 vostok has a better movement. My $500 Steinhart has a MUCH better movement. Smiths makes a lovely mini Williard with regulated Seiko movement and zero quality control issues. I am never selling mine.
@lupevalenzuela6987
@lupevalenzuela6987 3 года назад
I was looking into this watch but for the price I will just upgrade my srp777 for 150 and still have cash leftover.
@JonTheComputerDoctor
@JonTheComputerDoctor 3 года назад
Possibly not well lubricated?
@malkinmalone
@malkinmalone 3 года назад
yes! we are due for a new seiko review.
@cdb7876
@cdb7876 3 года назад
Jody's Seiko Willard...GONE!!!! Or it would have been going on vacation!
@drbobsnightmare2521
@drbobsnightmare2521 Год назад
For the movement in the watch I think the amplitude is too high. 6Rs are usually quite low. Jody is trying to steer me towards the Uemura.
@gnarl12
@gnarl12 3 года назад
For $700-800 it would be a great buy, or at $1000 if it had the brushed ceramic bezel that Seiko used on other divers..... Amusingly, the King Turtle kinda has it beat spec for spec excepting the power reserve.
@1minutewatchguy
@1minutewatchguy 3 года назад
Great review, I’ll stick with my $300 mini Turtle Padi. The ‘upgrade’ doesn’t seem worth it.
@pakhong123
@pakhong123 3 года назад
Waiting for the Seiko SPD15x VS Steeldive SD1970 comparison soon...
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