Thank you for posting this and being transparent about your experience, I had been considering submitting but after hearing CLAwoo’s story I have been reluctant to join.it’s so disappointing to hear that one of favs is running scams but the good news is that there’s room for a real and honest platform to be built from this ( hint)). Producers stand up!!
Thanks for your comment! It was sad to see your story with BeatClub. Since you made a second one, I guess your original YT account is completely lost now? Have you been able to recoup any of the money they owe you so far?
@@SirFreak yeah most of it, had some people backing it up, so grateful for that. They ignore me and still do. I have not got any money and never will. Timbaland and Beatclub blocked me on Instagram too.
@@clawoo2 That's really scandalous. Not just for the money, but also for all the subscribers you lost. So Timbo blocked you too? Wow. I guess he has really fallen low if he is also part of that decision...
Curious about their terms of service. I wonder if you send a beat to them, if you’re giving them permission to sell or license them. Could be a complete scam.
This was just the same experience for me which is really crazy. What I didn't mention in the video is that 2 of my beats got accepted but never heard ANYTHING back after months (still til this day) Great to know I'm not alone here. Appreciate the honesty! Blessings!
Thanks for the video and the important information. You explained everything clearly. Also, a redundancy is when a melody or feature within a song keeps repeating itself over and over until it becomes irritating to the listeners. This can be solved by switching things up within the song like changing up the 808, percs or melody. Add a few surprises that the artist didn't see coming. In addition, artists love it when we arrange a track in a way that clearly identifies what is the introduction, verse, chorus, bridge, conclusion and so forth. Thumbs up Sir Freak for the great video. You did a great job!!!
Thanks for your kind words. I tried to add some variation in that beat here and there, but apparently not enough to their liking, I guess. I'll try to make them more interesting.
I kinda feel your pain brother. My first 3 uploads, went exactly how you described. I was really annoyed that you couldn't resubmit because, they never changed your status for a particular opportunity. Then I put in for a commercial and got rejected IMMEDIATELY after submission but, I knew it was good. So, I went to the discord and started asking the community could they tell me what was wrong with the submission...because, I could not believe that it wasn't even considered for a few minutes. Then 2 hours later I got a phone call apologizing for accidentally rejecting the submission. We talked a bit, they listened to some of my work and then I got a direct contact and phone number to send stuff to directly. I had a few things playlisted after that. Then I went cold musically for 6 months and didn't submit anything. Then I recently submitted for 1 opportunity and another A&R contacted me directly to get more stuff from me and give me some mix suggestions that might help me get picked from the playlists. Still no placements but, they do reach out if they hear something/what they are looking for.
Haha and i was wondering about my gut feeling while watching the „what is Beat Club video“ Timbo seemed so cramped talking about the idea came in his dream yaddayadda. I answered in my mind „you mean BeatStars or what?“ But the most suspicious thing was this talking about „I have everything and now want to give it back“ His body language was talking 250 bucks baby 🤑🤑🤑 I hope I’m not doing him wrong with my statement since i really appreciate some of his art.
There's a market for aspiring singers, rappers, and producers. It's unfortunate that so many artists don't realize this. If you wanna make it in the music business, then do the work and make a HOT song. If it's meant for you it will catch on.
You're right, but then again, I've heard some amazing songs by underground artists that had less than 100 plays, so marketing is definitely quite important too!
@@SirFreak I never said marketing was not important. But I did say that one must do the work. And one thing us aspiring musicians fail to realize is that our music just might not be as good as we think it is. Bottom line: Joining Timbaland's Beat Club is not going to get you into the music business or make you any worthwhile contacts.
Thanks for the video. It really sounds like it's a cash grab, I feel bad for you that you got caught up in it but thankful that you've spread the word far and wide. Your beats sound good man keep it up and don't let a tech bro garbage platform with some phoned in celebrity endorsements get you down! You saved me some time and possibly money so for that I thank you.
This sounds like a group of tech bros got together and decided to prey on small independent music creators. The only difference between this and every other "get rich quick" course + Discord is the names involved. Would be interested to know what their funding looks like. Are these big names actual investors or is Beatclub just using a bunch of venture capital to pay them to make it look legit.
we need a new honest platform where all people can be involved to support music like producers, musicians, video editors, publishers, peformance management etc... everybody that can meet up !
Timbo got burned for over 200MM by Napster, he is trying to get it all back and then some 🎉 it's a scam I see a class action lawsuit filed by 100k producers sending timbo and company to prison for white collar crimes😂
No, at least not at the moment. There's an NFT marketplace though at nft.beatclub.com, and you can submit to have your beat listed over there, but as you can see, there's only 1 beat there right now and that's one by Timbo himself. So idk what's up with that...
@@SirFreak If they had a regular marketplace I think the $250 would be justified since some platforms are charging $9.99 - $19.99 a month for a subscription for a producer to sell beats.
@@bobbygotbarz I agree. When signing up I thought that would also have been a part of BeatClub, because I read some stuff online about that in a review. But that was just some misinformation apparently..
It's a pity that it went like this. But it's a good incentive to work on your skills and get better. There are producers like sand on the beach, but few that have a recognition value. Have you asked anyone in Discord about their experience?
Yes, as mentioned in the video I got in touch with a lot of other members to ask about their experience. Some were really sceptical because they had similar experiences, others still believed in the platform. And yes, it did drive me to work on my skills, to keep trying to improve. I'm no longer using BeatClub now, but I'm still trying to improve. But I'm going to try to focus on my own projects and ones from people that want to work with me now, instead of trying to get placements trough some platform.
In my opinion, the BeatClub team needs to be more intentional and hands-on when helping producers land placements. This starts by actually making the platform exclusive. I've applied to BeatClub many times and for the longest time I just thought my beats weren't good enough so I worked on my craft as I'm a full-time Sound Engineering student and freelance engineer. After half a year and roughly 5 applications later I got accepted however I could not pay $250 at the time. By God's grace, BeatClub had a partnership with Mastercard where they would fund your membership, I received a message and uploaded all the video answers that unlock the membership. After multiple emails to 'Dev' at Beatclub I still don't have my membership and have since given up on pursuing it. The initiative is good, but the execution isn't.
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Beat game is super oversaturated make your own albums and make tens of thousands of dollars vs hundreds of nickels placing beats I have had thousands of cues - beats placed since the 90s the income dried up after Napster came out 😢
Hey freak,it's all love here ,just rewatched your vid and wanted to give you some honest feedback. I've produced tracks in the industry,worked with artists,a&r's,label owners,TV,movie. 1st I think most producers will get ripped off there. I've seen how the industry works. But what you are saying in this is pretty standard industry stuff. I've watched producers come into to a studio with big artists with 10 years worth of beats. Fire too!! And have their life work skipped through in under 10mins. Some 5-10 seconds per beat. No big artist or label will respond to every "no" or personalize the message,they honestly couldn't. Most don't understand how many beats they listen too. Even artists that love your music won't respond. Big artists or label guys I've been around have all told me they know if they like a beat in under 10seconds. It's a hard biz,on your soul mostly. Hang in there if you really want it but expect to feel ignored and under appreciated the whole time,no matter how big you get or how good your music is. Respect brotha
Thanks for your insights! I wasn't quite sure what to think about the platform where you can submit for placements, but I can see how it can be pretty normal for this industry for A&Rs to go trough beats fast. Nonetheless, I do feel there are definitely some other red flags as well, and I don't want to put any more of my energy in this platform. Also, I'm definitely not a pro yet and I still have lots to learn and my work can definitely still improve a lot as well. I'm well aware of that. But nonetheless it was indeed demotivating at times. In any case, I still love making music, whether A&Rs like my music or not, so I'm not planning on stopping anytime soon. But BeatClub is no longer the way to go for me. Thanks for your big comment. Respect!
@@SirFreak all good bro. I had/have a lot of the same feelings. I've acted like an idiot,ruined relationships and felt like shit about it . I had to get closer to the other side and see that some of my expectations were not possible. If your main goals are placements with random big artists i'm going to leave you another big comment somewhere with some advice for you moving forward. Respect!!
I’ve gotten feedback on my music but am hesitant to send more. The feedback has been helpful but I’m not sure how to expand on things. I haven’t paid for any service but seems like the a&r’s are feeling my music.
@@SirFreak i guess im cynical, but I think to them guys even if they do want your beats its the same as wanting your money, in the end. It's not about the love of the community, or the collaboration, the music...it all about money and power/legacy.
@@EricJohnson-fh8zj Most definitely! They are acting like they do this for the community, but it's all about the money. If not, they wouldn't bee attacking people in the community like they did with CLA Woo.
They could literally just randomly Playlist people's music, after all, there is zero accountability for whether getting on a Playlist means you are going to be actually heard by an artist. If I were scamming people with a site like this, is have a small amount of people, regardless of quality, get playlisted, so nobody can say they haven't gotten playlisted.
That's probably exactly what's happening. Meanwhile Timbo and friends are most likely sending in their own beats to the artists and studios lol 😂 .. that's if all those opportunities are even real, which I also doubt at this point
it looks and feels like that quite from the begining, its very sad to see big names trying to get loads of money on people who are way below in the industry, for something like that to work, it needs a lot more of transparency and they dont, and there´s no such a thing as any proof out there where its validating BeatClub like lets say they already have a feature film all with music gathered from their platform... no they dont or any other out there proof to me, they just land you all the time to their shopping cart thats all they want.
That's what it looks like. The only proof that I've seen so far for people getting placements with BeatClub is those big artists themselves getting placements. But what's the point of the opportunity platform then if you're not a VIP? Maybe I'm talking to the wrong people, idk, but it's weird that nobody who has gotten back to me so far has landed any placements. And some of them let me hear some stuff that they sent that was pretty dope and really custom made for the opportunity.
Sure, here are some of the beats I've made for BeatClub: - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ybhSSRf1i8U.html - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_GQl_XMettI.html - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-TQM4GIFFPWY.html
that´s the sad truth about the music business..they want you to give them your beats..and they reject it but they use probably a bunch of them without paying the creator...it´s like always..the big boys in the business earn millions of dollars,while the small producer has no chance to jump in..
Thing is once you pay, the burden is laid and the effort is never 100% into the actual service cause they already got you signed up. It’s never that deep. Just about good enough to keep you happy. Like the lottery!
Personally, from the way timbaland moves and speaks I just feel like he’s always is looking for a angle. I mean beat club is no doubt good for relationships but as I’ve seen I don’t believe anyone should be paying to get heard. Timbaland posts people all the time who are talented, why should you have to pay to become noticed. He should be pushing that but he’s about money and I can’t blame that, so he uses beatclub as a platform. With all that said I find Timbo a bit corny in the way he operates. Idk man I just don’t believe in paying to be heard when this is all subjective and honestly his opinion is important but catered specifically, what can you work with that in that sense???
I guess you're talking about the program where he gives one-on-one feedback to a producer? For those 5 minutes, it's not really worth the $2000 price imo. I've seen a video somewhere of Timbo giving "advice" to some producer. One of the things he said was that Logic (the DAW) sounded bad, and couldn't be used to make good beats. What a load of bull...
Very true. It's easy to become blind to the red flags because of the big names that are associated with BeatClub. Definitely with a name like Timbaland, who's very influential for a lot of hiphop producers.
I believe if you work hard on a song and ots catchy and the melody is good then your track can be considered. Some people think making like 3 beats a day is a good thing , naaw it's ok to make 3 loops a day but creating a song that's at least 2mn and 30 seconds with all the ingredients listed. Intro verse and transitions to the hook and verse/breaks/drops and outro with at least a fadeout is key . Spend a week or 2 on one track maybe even a month trying to perfect it. Listen to the track over and over and over till you catch any mistakes and make it better ,be attention to detail on every aspect . If you want to make a hit it takes hardwork because remember you want the whole world to like your song so you have to be picky in your art. People do criticize for the littlest things. So you have to put it all on the line and give it your all to your best of your ability. So work on one track use a reference track that's already big and use that as a guide to see where sounds come in at what point of the song an instrument should come in or transitioning takes place. Look at the time on the track as it is playing , when does the break come in , you get the idea.
I agree, but what's the point if they clearly don't even take the time to listen to submissions? While I might have rushed some of my submissions, I've never been the finish-3-beats-a-day kind of guy, nor would I ever enjoy that process. My sound might not be the most contemporary, but I do try to put the music first. That being said, there's still a lot of room for improvement as well, so I definitely agree that time and extra effort is required to make art that stands out.
It's unfortunate that someone worth $85 million and so respected in the industry would attach his name to something that's so obviously a cash-grab built to take advantage of up and coming and bedroom producers.
all those pay to get played on streams are a scam. mans barely listens if u do make it to the stream. i made this mistake with superstar O. whole waste of 3 hours
When it sounds too good to be true, it is too good to be true :) Sounds like The Wolf of Sick Beats... um... Wall Street :) A ponzi scheme for musicians.
word of advice, I would take your whole review of beatclub more seriously if you didn't include the awkward/cringe b-roll nonsense at the end. It literally made me not want to subscribe. Do what you want tho!
Thanks for the advice. I tried to keep the video a little light-hearted, but I can understand how that might throw people off in a video about a more serious topic. Still hope you found it somewhat informative though!
Good stuff...bettr off promoting yourself n not paying someone to listen to yur music. You don't know if they actually listened to yur track, why support them wit yur money...seems like a scam to me.
Listen, producers. WORK HARD at your craft, learn as much as you can and hustle hard. Come out of your shell and network for real. Actually go out, meet people and generate activity, put music out. This is how you get to where you wanna go. Fuck all these snake oil merchants. You think timberland gives a damn about you??
The only good thing about Beatclub is The soundpacks and they are ok to say the least, fuck paying them for royalties if I use them and they get placed, they got my $250, there’s my payment for using the sample packs lol, Fuck Timbaland 🤣
Man, even his masterclass was a cash grab. Super generic and didn't go over none of his hit project files. smh. Its sad to see my childhood idol fleecing people and co signing trash music all the time, instead of innovating like he used to. Sad to say, but there are waay better producers than Tim now, because they push the envelope like he used to. I checked out his sample pack and even that was a let down.
Well, uKnow another word getting ripped off is? That kinda fucked up making entire platform while doing it! That’s so Ho shit & defrauding members, sound like (pun intended) illegal “slot” machines, if these responses are indeed automated. And iCant even hold ya…. I’m spitting BARS🎰
@@SirFreak He Has Something called Program called Muzik Money. That you can be apart of but you gotta pay a bunch of money to get veryyyy limited resources. Also superrrr misleading, thinking that you are going to get a legit chance, but it’s just a pool of unknown people getting a chance to network with each other, and his “team” doing zooms to show you how to boost your followers up. Seems like they’re only doing those to make it seem worth the money, but in my opinion it hasn’t been worth it. I love Zaytoven, and also we have a similar background, I was really hoping this would be something real for me in the music industry. But nah, at least not in my experience.
That's not how they advertise it lol. I also never called it that. And since I'm one of the only ones being vocal about this, I wouldn't say it really worked on me. You'll find some other videos online with people still defending this company. I don't.
Hmmm, I just double checked, the annual subscription for BeatClub is $250, but the price of purchasing the beat by Timbo and CashMoneyAP as an NFT is $750, as I mentioned.
