jesus that gt40 driver was going easy. I guess if you're drying a museum car worth 2 or 3 mill you aren't dropping the clutch but would be nice to go against a common superformance gt40 with a driver that looks like he wants to win
@@williamburnich8719 he hasnt done it in a while. but he would always add another inch every time he mentioned his height so since he’s a growing boy he probably is 9’6 now
I don't know if those things exist anymore, but if they do and they work and the numbers in Ford V Ferrari are accurate (I tried googling the specs but I find a lot of conflicting information in there), I'm putting my money on the GT40.
Originally, every game I've ever played had this information, based on the 1966 Ford GT40 race car: Layout: Mid-engine, RWD Engine: 427 c.i. Transmission: Standard 4-speed Weight: 2,470 lbs. 0-60: 4.2 seconds Top speed (MPH): 218 (Test Drive 4, PS1), 235 (Test Drive, PS2)
@@Randommmmm204 they exist here's a 1966 427 powered GT40 on My Classic Car 20 or so years ago. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8BDsQtxxp-8.html
@@jamesd4846 the bigger motor would really affect the whole car handling breaking launching stopping would all be way different and traction would be a problem but it would still be a hell of a machine
the GT40mk2 had a wery long 4sp gearing not wery suited for a dragrace but it would still go 0-63mph at ca4 secs. The 427R engine was not "485hp" like most belive, the 485hp was made at 6200rpms while the engine would make power up to it`s original shiftpoints at 7400rpm.
Yeah, Hoonigan does this, specifically, Ken Block and the gang, but now his daughter races the Hoonicorn against other power cars. At this very airstrip to be exact, this is not a new concept.
Slight correction - Herbert von Karajan, the original owner of the car, was not the composer for 2001: A Space Odyssey, he was the conductor during the recording sessions.
@@Skydrag.V60 Actually, there was an entire score composed for the film, but Kubrick decided not to use it. He was using pre-existing music as a stand-in for the score during the editing process, and decided he liked the pre-existing music instead of the score.
@@billhoman694 Exactly!!!! The GT is a 5 L supercharged v8. The GT40 is a 4.7 NA V8 out of a 1st generation Mustang. Let's do it again and line up Dougie Boy with something worth racing.
although doug won in the gt40, im sure the guy in the GT was enjoying himself more. That hardy throaty rumble of that car is, and always will be, amazing
@@TheBetterPMC gt40 mkI with 289/4.7L makes 390 peak hp at 7,000 RPM and the MK IV with 427/7.0L makes 500 peak hp at 6500 RPM, the new ford GT makes 660 at 6250 RPM with 30 psi boost if using 93 octane fuel, or 345 hp with 10 psi boost on 87 octane
Note to the commentator: The "40" in the name GT40 represents the maximum height of the "roofline" is from the ground. 40 inches was part of the racing regulations at Le Mans when the car was developed to beat Ferrari at Le Mans. Racing regs stated that every car in that class could be no taller than 40 inches over all. "40" is not indicative of how high the car is in general. To generally state that the car is "x" amount of inches from the ground usually refers to the ride height, not the roof line height. The original 289 in the mk3 wad rated to be 305bhp but most cars of the era produced significantly more bhp than their factory specifications due to inconsistancies in manufacturing processes. Without computers to manufacture and/or to run the engine management, engine power was hardly ever what the manufacturer claimed it to be. Shelby himself said this and also that he suspected bhp to be closer to 350-375bhp in the 289 as a result. The mk3 could accelerate from 0-60 as low as 5 sec. Also the 2005 Ford GT had 550bhp and accelerated from 0-60 in 3.7 sec. The only production car that could officially reach acceleration times that low was the McLaren F1 at 0-60 in 3.2.
I heard the real reason they didn’t call the 2005 version gt40 was because they didn’t actually own the GT40 name and didn’t want to pay to use the name.
Yep! That was B.S. the reason they didn't call it the GT40 is that Ford lost the rights to the GT40 name. A GT40 parts specialty dealer now owns it and Ford didn't agree to what the owner was asking.
Considering the height of the GT’s through their evolution ranges between as low as 38.5in (MkIV) and 40-42 inches, “40” just rolled off the tongue. The 2005 was 44in. If I’m not mistaken. Ford lost the rights to the name and attempted to buy them back from the current owner, I’m not mistaken was a kit car company. Ford could have purchased it, but the price tag was way too high, and so thusly opted to just go with GT
Ford was originally going to call the fusion the futura but they lost the rights to the name and it's owned by pep boys now and pep boys refused to sell in the name back. And that's why we have the Ford fusion instead of the Ford futura.
When Ford approached Safir to negotiate a licensing deal for the GT40 name on production variants, the company's opening request was reported to be $40 million, a fee that would have added another $9,900 to the production cost of each of the 4,038 Ford GT's built. Perhaps sensing the two companies were continents apart in pricing and terms, Ford reverted to the original name of the car instead of returning to the negotiating table. Ford closed the book on that chapter in its automotive history, and, surprisingly, failed to trademark the GT40 name. In 1985, Safir Engineering, a company that had been building replica GT40s since 1981, trademarked the GT40 name to distinguish its own products from other replicas on the market. When Safir Engineering was closed in 1999, naming rights were transferred to Safir GT40 Spares, Limited, a company that sells replacement parts for original GT40 models
So great to see that beautiful GT40 being driven like that. You could hear just how happy it was to be driven and running through the gears. It wanted to go more and more. You could almost hear it screaming "Yeeeeeaaaaaaahhhh! Let's go!".
Yup, it's always great to see cars getting driven like they were met to be! It would have been nice for the older-guy driving the older-GT40 to make a few comments.
Herbert Von Karajan wasn't a composer he was a conductor...and he didn't compose 2001 Space Odyssey he conducted the orchestra for the recording...it was composed by Richard Strauss in 1896 and is called "also sprach zarathustra."
Back in 2004 the Ford guys were testing the new GT at Milan Dragway they were trying to see what parts would fail under extreme punishment, they did not break any parts that we seen but did manage to run some 11 second 1/4 mile passes. We also watched them test a V10 Mustang prototype which was spinning the tires through the whole 1/4 mile, it was hanging with the GT pretty well.
That may just be the most recent price at which one traded hands. Obviously the Petersen Museum will likely never be looking to sell their Ford GT and I doubt the other 6 owners would be easy to part from their cars. So you may very well have to offer significantly more than that to even tempt them to consider selling.
@michael payne Definitely agree Michael, with collectible items like this, especially in such limited quantity (only 7 of this example), it's really hard to determine the actual VALUE of the item until you actually try to sell it. It's easy to price a share of stock in a company because they are bought and sold every day. With something as limited as this the best estimate of VALUE would really only be the most recent sales price, otherwise you are just guessing and grasping at straws. That's the difference between VALUE and PRICE. PRICE is what some real person with the available cash is actually willing to pay for it, where as VALUE is just an estimate. Only a small percentage of people in this world have access to enough money to even consider buying this, and most of them don't care about cars, or old cars or Fords etc.... Something like this would either take a very very long time to sell, or would need to be offered for sale at a high-end auction. Thanks for responding Michael :)
@@nothinghere7391 yeah, i mean in these circumstances. like when people autocross. or run a quick race, visor usually stays open. it is difficult to breathe in a full face helmet inside a closed car. there is no airflow for the vents.
This is amazing! The museum is a dream vacation for me! I actually been watching the full museum tour you did. I've now watched so many time I almost have the tour memorized! Thank you so much for doing these. Wish I could contribute more then admiration!
He did get into the twelves in the second run. I know they're capable of faster, but that's pretty respectable all things considered. Plus a huge improvement from first run.
Okay that first claim that you made about the 67 GT40... did you say 40 in off the ground. You see I had to rewind the video just to make sure that's what you said and it is what you said 40 in off the ground. So when somebody says that a car is that far off the ground it generally means from the ground to the bottom of the car and I think what you meant to say was from from the ground to the roof. Cuz the last time I checked I didn't think the GT40 was lifted up like a F-250 on 28 inch wheels and four wheel drive
@@mike93lx He didn't take it to redline. This is a race car in a drag race not a prius in a parking lot. People like you have built up carbon gunk in your engine because you don't go past 4,000 rpm and didn't want to "beat it like a rented mule and be careful".... whatever that means.
@@anthonyacetta1551 OK. How could you know how high he revved it and how do you know how my engine looked? He wasn't driving a Hyundai. It was one of the rarest cars in the world. What is there to gain by taking it to redline?
@@mike93lx "what is there to gain by taking it to redline" - stupidest question I've ever heard in my life about a drag race. Just by this alone you're too stupid to talk to. Bye.
The GT40 was never known for “extremely lightweight”. It was in fact heavy in its class, and subsequently needed the 7.0L 427 to be truly competitive when allowed.
I LOVE what P. A. M is doing! No magazine or influencer can compete with the volume of cars you have available to you. Get the right people in front of the camera and you guys will be a force to be reckoned!
Jesus, props to you guys for dusting the old gt40 off and giving it some exercise, and to think this is the second car that I know of that has ties to a famous music composer, giorgio moroder, who made that cistema V16 which then turned into the lamborghini diablo, and it makes sense as this OG sounds way better than the new one.
Amazing it's a clear indication of how much automotive technology has come. I thought the GT40 would have had this in the bag or at least held off it's son, but alas,there is the strength of of youth.
Ok.. now that we have seen this comparison of the street GT-40 against the Ford GT (pretty cool but predictable) lets see what the GT40 can do side by side against the actual 427 side oiler GT40 and lets see if it can still hold its own when the ponies are more comparable! This is going to be a great series!!
It is kind of crazy that Doug’s old Kia Stinger is probably faster in the 1/4 mile than the Ford GT when it doesn’t get traction. AWD is so much more reliable for acceleration.
Dear Petersen Museum. I would love to see a series of drag races between classic supercars and everyday daily cars from the last 10 years or so. Can a Prius out drag a Countach? Can a Focus best a Ferrari F40?
Interestingly, 0-60 wise a Performance Tesla Model 3 is quicker than an F40, but, IMHO (having been a passenger in them both), the F40 is way more exciting; it's exciting even when it's just sitting there, and when it starts up .. WOAH !!! 😉
@@steviesindahouse4903 there is that aspect, but more as a comparison. Classic performance cars we hold on pedestals, but how does their performance last and stack up next to modern daily family drivers.
@@RatelHBadger Hmm .. our comments have been cut off! Anyway, horses for courses; a drag race is a drag race; I love F40s, but, even an F40 LM is no match for a Top Fuel dragster, on a drag strip! Different story of course at say a race track like laguna Seca! At the end of the day, buy what you like, or dream about what you dream about, and I do mean 'you' like or 'you' dream about, that you can afford, or, hopefully, will be able to afford one day, and don't worry about everyone else; no two of us are exactly the same! :-) P.S. I've been in a Prius as a passenger too, a cab (a few times, and as I recall they were nice to ride in); he was there before I heard him .. actually I think I saw him first, hardly any sound at all, LOL; actually I've seen a 918 do that too (move about under it's battery power alone), and I imagine a LaFerrari would be able to as well, but I'm yet to see THAT; one day ... :-))))))))))))) ...
I knew the new Ford GT would beat the GT-40. but the fact is these cars are being raced outside their element. both of these cars are meant to be raced on a road course. results may vary, also that GT-40 isn't the same as the one's that won at LeMans. they were powered by the 427FE side oiler engines. and the number 40 meant 40"inches from the ground to the top of the car. and the reason that Ford couldn't use it later on the new car. was because someone took it causing a copyright issue.
3:33 Doug seem like giant among those cars. You can imagine how small GT/GT40 are compared to modern vehicles, especially SUVs, behind which Doug is almost non visible.
Thank you Team Petersen and Doug for this! You don't often see a Mk. III in action, and it sounds SO FINE! Great choice! Looking forward very much to your next installment! Just occurred to me that this would make for a fantastic event; a day at the drags with The Petersen! Folks could bring their own cars along and join in; I'm sure if this had happened in this case you would have had a very healthy group of genuine original 60's era cars turn, up including Cobras, and other GT40s, as well as some Corvettes, and perhaps even some ex Le Mans Ferrari race cars; maybe even a 250LM, or a P3! (Some of your friends actually own examples of these cars; you could invite them along!) Now, THAT would be just so, SO COOL !!! 😀
pretty cool they let the original GT40 get out and stretch its legs! The gen 1 Ford GT (2005-2006) is BY FAR my favorite "if money were not a problam" car!
I love the cars - the video I might be critical of, in the hopes it is constructive criticism into the future. Neat to see an original GT40 run. Way neat. However, most of the footage was of Doug in the new GT. Now GT's are way cool, but you need more of the GT40 - that's really the only thing truly special here. I love that Peterson brought the car out of the museum - my beef is that it wasn't really all there, or wasn't really shown to true capability. A 2600 lb, 306 horse car runs better than 15's. My guess listening to the segments is short shifting - it wasn't yet high on the cam. The opera of that Aussie's two-eight-nine wasn't showing itself yet. If you're going to bring it out to show - then show it.
The 2005 GT makes up for its 1,000 lb. of excess over the 1967 GT40 by pumping out a healthy 550 hp vs 306 in the GT40. A more equal race would have been the 1966 GT40 MK ll with the 475-500 hp 427 engine. Doesn't really matter though, they are both historical and wonderful machines!
Just to clarify, Karajan was a conductor not a composer... and the most famous music used in 2001 A Space Odyssey was Also Sprach Zarathustra composed by Richard Strauss. However I know nothing about engines :-)
Imho,.....the 2022 GT40 is possibly the most beautiful American street legal automobile ever designed and built. An all black one is just a piece of rolling art.
