Douglas Murray on antisemitism and racism | Lex Fridman Podcast Clips 

Lex really said, “quantum racism.” 😭

the idea that racism and racial 'prejudice' can be summed up to be about skin color is reductive beyond belief and is one of the most crippling things about contemporary thought on the subject.

In a dog eat dog world where there's a perception that the other person doesn't always have your best interests at heart I don't know why it's a surprise that people are suspicious, and act accordingly, of people who don't speak your language and look different. That these people can't or won't assimilate to the host country doesn't sweeten the deal. Ask anybody who's ever been conquered. It's not personal per se.

Nobody discuss a solution on racism. Many people don't care about individual racism. It doesn't have a deep impact. However, we must identify the systematic racist groups. They are cancer to a society. We acknowledge and identify them publicly who they are and their agenda. The infuential public figures should announce against these thugs as well.

I found this interview interesting , I feel that Lex found it hard to discuss with Murray and Murray had a slight british educated defensive dont question me attitude i know it all. Well done Lex trying have an open conversation with a transfer of ideas and a conversation as opposed to a lecture that Murray perhaps being nervous had . was intresting to watch/listen

The comments on the clips for this particular interview are closer to 50/50 than almost any other kind of political interview I've ever seen.

4:42 Would Douglas also care to comment on “white privilege” and “white fragility” then?

Ah Douglas 'Mumblay'. Always a pleasure to listen to for ASMR purposes.

Lex, don't you think we need to define what race means as well?.........I ask because from a sociological perspective, it seems that Murray conflates ethnic conflict (typically based on cultural differences) with racial conflict (phenotypical/physical markers/difference)?......

When someone is buzzing and I try to find out who they are and what they really think, I ask Lex! Thanks

You notice Lex is really in the moment with his guests, when he looks like an improvisational jazz musician, like Stevie Wonder just jamming it out, eyes closed, feeling every single word he says without thinking it. RESPECT!

The belief that people of different races are inferior is a convenient way of furthering the goals of who you perceive as you and yours, perhaps. I'm reluctant to believe racism's existence is primarily based upon stupidity. It looks equally, if not more so, due to a mix of fear and greed. I mean it takes a major sleight of your own hand to believe that someone of different physical features is at all less than, or for that matter, greater than yourself. Thus I feel if stupidity is involved, it is often that of the willful variety.

Glad the discussion is being had

Have to correct his racism definition a little bit. Maybe because Murray and Lex are western so their experience mainly with racism happening in western world, but antisemitism is not the only racism where its based on racial hate on a race they think it is superior. There are actually similar racism happening in South East Asia against Chinese, where its so similar to antisemitism. Chinese is seen as superior race but hated. Its easy to see why. Its based on wealth disparity. Sooner or later Asian American will face the same racism, as we can see that there are lots of anti asian hate violence currently happening in America (which is ironically mainly done by black and hispanic people, other minorities), and Asian American has the highest average income in America.

Sometimes the masses just don’t want to understand a concept because they’re all quantum racists.

Journey to the End of the Night by Louis Ferdinand Celine is the best novel of the 20th century. .

if youre getting kicked out of a bar 109 times, can you really blame others every. single.time. ?

I have asbergers...... named after hanz asberger (look it up). Im starting to come to terms with the fact autistic people are their own race, and the majority of neurological typical people i meet are racists 🤣. What a Bizarre time we live in.

There are an infinite number of reasons since the beginning of time why somebody might think of someone else as inferior with race being just one of them but you'd never know it if you live in a country dominated by western media. Take it from a black man and one of America's greatest academics, Thomas Sowell who has for years exposed the manipulation of the world's belief about racism from the establishment/intelligentsia.

I'd like to agree or disagree with this gentleman but I can't understand him speaking, it's like he changes to a different language mid sentence

Do people here read anything serious on the topics addressed?

Blah blah, waffle jibberish..

Who Funded Hitler and why?

The Austrian painter is my favorite politician!

Racism is homoerotic. In some cases. Like some weird obsession/fascination. Some times

Jordan Petterson definition of Racism is attributing the negative attributes of a group to the person , i have been trying to define what is racism , its actions and is it perhaps part of the human DNA ie to protect the group from other groups, thus protecting the DNA to be passed on to the next generation and i still struggle to find and clearly understand this subject and why it has been around for thousands of years through all cultures. And what is race ? And if it is part of the DNA then it will be impossible to erradicate racism - I understand why a women will not walk past a man perhaps with hood at night but 99% of men are not rapist, i understand avoiding walking past a group of teenagers again with hoods but not all teenagers are knife wielding. These are not racist actions these are sterotyping based on a percieved threat. but then were does that percieved threat come from - gossip /media ? i hope that all makes sense as said i struggle with the lack of logic with this subject.

Without a particular group having an imposing power dynamic over another group, then it isn’t racism it’s just prejudice or bigotry. Racism is about power. If someone believes you to be inferior that’s not enough, if someone believes you or your race/ethnicity to be inferior and wields power or authority over your well-being……racism

This interview is worthless. 1. racism is about race, i.e. different looks. One can harbor contempt & animosity to other groups which are racially the same- for instance, let's imagine, Danes for Slovaks. But this is only nationalism, not racism. 2. Murray doesn't distinguish between racial consciousness & racism. For instance, there is nothing wrong with Italian or Norwegian national consciousness which says-"it's we, and not you". Extreme nationalism or chauvinism is another thing. 3. as far as antisemitism (or, more precisely, anti-judaism)- Grossman's novel is a clear example of Jewish delusion & a lack of self-criticism: for Grossman, a Jew, Jews are always blameless & eternal victims for whom others somehow, without any reason, harbor suspicion & aversion. Another is Gregor von Rezzori, who wrote a novel about the mentality of antisemites, which is completely delusional & bogus. For Rezzori, Jews are morally superior beings whom others envy because of their success & all around superiority. A worthless &utterly tendentious novel. And, as far as "Life and Fate" goes, this is not a great novel. It is a sprawling old fashioned baggy monster which contains many great passages, but, overall is - a mess. All in all - a shallow & tendentious piece of interview.

Why does Douglas Murray always mumble? It is hard to understand anything when he can seem to formulate a statement.

Y’all hilarious

Murray is, I'm sorry to say, 2nd rate. There is not a canonical work on racism, but I would recommend a few great works on antisemitism, especially anthology edited by Albert Lindemann & a magnificent book by late author and journalist Walter Laqueur. Most other works (Wistrich etc.) are very flawed.

I mean obvs :P

lol

Within 125 years of technological progress on our current trajectory, the average baby will be genetically engineered to whatever specifications their parent(s) wants. Our role until then is to keep this train on the track. Whatever material "benefits" can be gained by acting on racist instincts today simply wouldn't be worth the risk and cost this close to the finish line. In light of that, racism today is the exercise of an aesthetic movement; it's an art project.

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Odd. A simpler definition is just not liking someone because of a race trait. What's all this inferior / superior baffle?

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