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Dovetail Log Cabin - Cutting Dovetail Notches 

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In this video we go through the process of cutting a dovetail notch. We are using 10x6" spruce logs. We made two jigs to use on each end of the log (link below for plans). Using a Stihl MS170 chainsaw + guides attached to the chainsaw bar, we made the cuts on the logs.
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@denitavue9579
@denitavue9579 Год назад
With Ryan's ru-vid.comUgkxy_pn55PK60wAV3X_C_RoLS_67mNonoCE plan I was like one taken by the hand and led step by step from start to finish. Thank you very much Ryan!
@grumpa328
@grumpa328 4 года назад
I just about finished my 16 x16 with an 8 porch using the same dovetail jig. It worked out fantastic and after about 1-1/2 years the first joints I did are still very tight. Great system, good luck with the project.
@PenniacWilderness
@PenniacWilderness 4 года назад
The jig is great - I found it tricky to build, especially the beveled cut. Had a friend help who had some better tools. Where are you located John? 16x16 sounds like a good size. I hope my joints stay tight over time too. What kind of wood did you use?
@grumpa328
@grumpa328 3 года назад
@@PenniacWilderness mine is white pine in New York near Buffalo. Here’s a photo
@markmccombe5629
@markmccombe5629 4 года назад
I built a cabin just like yours with the dovetails almost thirty years ago only difference was I left the live edges top and bottom on the log and cut my notches with out the jig. I enjoyed felling the trees and milling the logs with the chain saw , I even put a half story on the cabin and my floors and roof were made of poles and planks that were taken from the property. My foundation was a drystack rock that I also harvested from the land which on the downhill side was as tall as me and I'm over 6 foot. All in all the cabin took awhile but turned out looking like it had fallen out of a fairytale because it was created using material harvested on site. Great video it brought back some fond memories of my time in the high country.
@PenniacWilderness
@PenniacWilderness 4 года назад
Hi Mark! Really appreciate the comment and your story. Would be interested to see your cabin. Where are you located? There is something special about building a cabin, I really am enjoying it. I have learned a lot from many people in the process and it has been really rewarding. Thanks so much!
@cdennisb
@cdennisb Год назад
Very ingenious! Can’t wait to watch more of your build.
@melvinjohnson7981
@melvinjohnson7981 Год назад
Loved the jig idea, hope someday to have a dovetail log home, but even if I never do I think they make beautiful homes and cabins and I appreciate the skill involved in building of them.
@mr_j83
@mr_j83 3 года назад
Amazing work. My grandfather did build his house in 1953 using the same technique back in Former Yugoslavia
@PenniacWilderness
@PenniacWilderness 3 года назад
That is fascinating! I found this type of cabin in the Czech Republic. Do you have any pictures o your father's house?
@glenwoodcampbell2734
@glenwoodcampbell2734 2 года назад
So the notch has top and bottom cut that are different can't really see
@LogHomeMart_com
@LogHomeMart_com 4 года назад
All of us in the office here at *Log Home Mart* of Wisconsin Rapids, WI absolutely love this video. Very well done.
@PenniacWilderness
@PenniacWilderness 4 года назад
Thanks Log Home Mart! Appreciate the comment.
@dukeman7595
@dukeman7595 3 года назад
Handcrafted log houses have been built for centuries in the Eastern parts of Finland. Also in Scandinavia, Russia and Eastern Europe, and were typically built using only an axe and knife. The settlers from the northern Europe brought the craft to North America in the early 17th century, where it was quickly adopted by other colonists and Native Americans. Possibly the oldest surviving log house in the United States is the C. A. Nothnagle Log House (circa 1640) in New Jersey. The Dovetail is designed to shed water in every direction which is why they are still standing more than 350 years later.
@PenniacWilderness
@PenniacWilderness 3 года назад
Hi Joseph! Thank you for that history and information. I find cabin history fascinating. The dovetail notch, to me, is just so beautiful. What part of the world are you in?
@randomstufffromrandomthing6792
@randomstufffromrandomthing6792 3 года назад
A very late reply to this video, but as I find myself coming back to it time and time again as I’m doing my research, I’d thought I would leave a comment to this as I saw it fitting. We’ve had these types of dove tails in Sweden for I don’t know how many hundreds of years. It’s a very common style in my province of Sweden at least, we do however make another angle instead of having them lapping straight like you’ve done. We have them angled from the outer edge to the inner as well. So apart from the vertical angle, they’re also angled horizontally if you understand how I mean. Hard to explain really unless I could find a picture of it. Anyways, I love the videos and would like to see more projects from you!
@hillbillyherman738
@hillbillyherman738 2 года назад
Thank you for the video I’m always looking to improve you did a great job
@terrybrower3437
@terrybrower3437 8 месяцев назад
I grew up on the Olympic Peninsula in the state of Washington near the town of Poulsbo. On most of the old farms there was a noticable Skandinavian influance and many of the out buildings were made with the dove tail logs. Some had coved bottoms and rounded tops. I suspect all were hand hewn. I'm sure they would have loved to have your saws and jigs. Thanks for the viceo.
@leemccready4652
@leemccready4652 11 месяцев назад
The bug wisdom is the most Canadian thing on the RU-vid.
@user-co1de8xj8l
@user-co1de8xj8l 2 года назад
Хорошие приспособы. Методика выпиливания лапы доступно изложена. Спасибо ! 🧤
@shanepowell5115
@shanepowell5115 Год назад
Drill a 2" or so for hole for a sight window. It won't hurt or compromise the rigidity of the jig and will be much easier to see the center line
@rickybell2.056
@rickybell2.056 Год назад
I'm glad I work in millimetres, can't beat a good jig
@slawomirskrycki8238
@slawomirskrycki8238 Год назад
Fajna i bardzo precyzyjna metoda👍💪
@kerriwilson7732
@kerriwilson7732 3 года назад
LOVE the jigs + chainsaw stops!
@PenniacWilderness
@PenniacWilderness 3 года назад
All credit to Fred at logdovetailjig.com for the plans to make the jigs.
@dabprod
@dabprod 2 года назад
Excellent.
@PenniacWilderness
@PenniacWilderness 2 года назад
Many thanks! Also please check out logdovetailjig.com!
@crazycoyote1738
@crazycoyote1738 4 года назад
Thanks for sharing your humble video. Filming and sound quality are very good. Great work bro!!
@PenniacWilderness
@PenniacWilderness 4 года назад
Thanks a lot! This was one of the early videos and I hope folks found it interesting/helpful. Appreciate you writing - take care!
@smallcabinliving4524
@smallcabinliving4524 4 года назад
Thanks for sharing....great idea with the jig. Enjoy your Small Cabin Living
@PenniacWilderness
@PenniacWilderness 4 года назад
Thank you for the comment and well wishes. I hope you are well too!
@tamarahmoore9834
@tamarahmoore9834 4 года назад
i went to Florida from October to March thus year and the first thing I noticed were my friends complaining of Mosquitos bothering them... when they ask me if the pests were bothering me I said what mosquitos??? in my world they dont exist... So kewl you said that meditation comment as that is exactly what you are doing when you will them to no longer bother you... and it is so neat to see You build a house with little tools...
@Danzoid61
@Danzoid61 3 года назад
Really? Here in Florida mosquitos carry West Nile virus, Eastern equine encephalitis, and St. Louis encephalitis. Enjoy those bites. (Oh and they also spread heartworm.)
@TheJiminiflix
@TheJiminiflix 4 года назад
That chainsaw setup is smart, never seen that before.
@PenniacWilderness
@PenniacWilderness 4 года назад
I got the plans for the jig from logdovetailjig.com so I cannot take credit for them - but I do agree it is a really nice way to make consistent notches. The walls came together well I think.
@davidlayne8755
@davidlayne8755 3 месяца назад
That's a great idea to use a jig ....
@unit1393
@unit1393 4 года назад
Nice work! That’s going to be beautiful and very rewarding! Thanks for sharing
@PenniacWilderness
@PenniacWilderness 4 года назад
Thanks for the comment! It's come along nicely. I'm on a bit of a break now as the winter snow has been building up but plan to get back at the cabin build in the next few weeks.
@hunattilathehun4471
@hunattilathehun4471 6 месяцев назад
👍 nice job !
@davidlayne8755
@davidlayne8755 3 месяца назад
Put a 2X4 flat on top of each log to help make it more air tight you can put a bead of caulk on the 2X4 .... There will be a place to put mortar , just take two inch tape a run it along the top and bottom of the 2inch opening them fill it with mortar , let your flat trowel ran on top of the tape ... When it hardens remove the tape.. It will look great..oh might be a good ideal To put a few drywall screws in to help hold the mortar in because that house will move ... From heat and cold ...
@kryptik0
@kryptik0 3 года назад
If I ever get around to buying some wooded land and building a cabin, I am going with dovetails.
@PenniacWilderness
@PenniacWilderness 3 года назад
I really like the dovetail style. What part of the world are you located in?
@damianmurphy-morris1941
@damianmurphy-morris1941 4 года назад
Your commentary is honestly a good break from some of these overtly excited and loud RU-vidrs 🤙🏽
@PenniacWilderness
@PenniacWilderness 4 года назад
Thanks for the feedback - I am new to this, so appreciate that. I am located in New Brunswick but have spent time in Fernie, BC which is not too far from Calgary. Beautiful out there.
@Average-Al
@Average-Al 2 месяца назад
Agree to that!
@timshaw8187
@timshaw8187 4 года назад
Thanks for taking the time to film and post, best of luck with you’re cabin
@PenniacWilderness
@PenniacWilderness 4 года назад
I appreciate it! Hope you found it helpful.
@jean3xyz
@jean3xyz 3 года назад
Hello from Jean Rimouski Quebec and well done for the ingenuity you put into all your work!
@PenniacWilderness
@PenniacWilderness 3 года назад
Hello there! Merci. The idea for the jigs came from logdovetailjig.com, so feel free to check out his site too, but thank you for the comment too!
@BoydsCoveEst
@BoydsCoveEst 5 лет назад
Excellent video! Very helpful!
@PenniacWilderness
@PenniacWilderness 5 лет назад
Thanks Rich, hope you are well. We plan to show more of the progress as we move along. Thanks for the comment!
@Matt2chee
@Matt2chee 3 года назад
A Scout Is Trustworthy, Loyal, Helpful , Friendly, courteous, cheerful, thrifty, kind, obedient, brave ,clean and reverent. I remembered them all, the order isn't right. it's been a long time. Good job.
@peterallinotte2108
@peterallinotte2108 4 года назад
Cut a hole near your screw holes, and draw a line on centre at each end. You could check the centre of tour jig a lot more easily.
@PenniacWilderness
@PenniacWilderness 4 года назад
Thanks Peter - This would work too, many ways to do this part for sure.
@lawrencereed8106
@lawrencereed8106 4 года назад
when you snap your line just pick the line so lightly and let the chalk drop off. all your chalk went in the air. nice work larry
@PenniacWilderness
@PenniacWilderness 4 года назад
Great tip! Thanks Larry.
@davehudson4607
@davehudson4607 3 года назад
Nice cutting, good idea the adder to the chain bar.
@PenniacWilderness
@PenniacWilderness 3 года назад
Thanks - The idea and plans for the jig comes from Fred at logdovetailjig.com
@kevinbetter4741
@kevinbetter4741 4 года назад
Well done young man, Hello from Odessa Ontario Canada
@PenniacWilderness
@PenniacWilderness 4 года назад
Thanks Kevin! Hello to you from York County, New Brunswick, Canada. I appreciate the comment.
@Rick_Sanchez_C137_
@Rick_Sanchez_C137_ 4 года назад
Nice setup. Not the style I plan on using, but the use of jigs to reproduce same results is always a smart way to go and something I need to consider when I get around to building my vertical log Viking longhouse in two or three years on my second Alaskan property (currently building a tiny house on first Alaskan property).
@PenniacWilderness
@PenniacWilderness 4 года назад
Interesting! Alaska is such a beautiful spot. I went to Denali in 2017 and spent time in Alaska beforehand. Thanks for connecting :)
@2drsdan
@2drsdan 4 года назад
If or when a horizontal log rots it can be replaced. When vertical logs rot the whole bldg needs replacing.
@thecoyotelab
@thecoyotelab Год назад
Awesome!
@lowercherty
@lowercherty 4 года назад
I've watched old Finnish carpenters build these things by eye with primitive hand tools from raw logs. It's impressive. In Scandinavian construction they stack the logs tight with only moss (insulation nowdays) between them. This is warmer than clay or mortar chinking.
@PenniacWilderness
@PenniacWilderness 4 года назад
I get a lot of comments about the gaps - I gather that different regions seemed to do it full-scribed vs with gaps. I think there seems to be pros and cons of each. I just like the look of the chinking in a cabin, personally. I think with the size of my cabin, and the way I plan to insulate the roof that I should be able to keep it warm :)
@SCOTTISHPREPPERVARIETYCHANNEL
@SCOTTISHPREPPERVARIETYCHANNEL 4 года назад
Very interesting video enjoyable
@PenniacWilderness
@PenniacWilderness 4 года назад
Thank-you! Are you based in Scotland? What part? Thanks for the comment.
@SCOTTISHPREPPERVARIETYCHANNEL
@SCOTTISHPREPPERVARIETYCHANNEL 4 года назад
Penniac Wilderness yes I’m from Scotland Ayrshire But homes Caithness mums side
@adamromary9620
@adamromary9620 3 года назад
I worked on some restoration of rotted sill logs + 2nd round on a historic cabin in AK. Up there, they left the tops of the logs round and carved a cup along the bottom of each log to receive the one below. I wouldn't guarantee that made a tighter seal, but that was their thinking back then. We didn't think of a jig, just a ruler, square, saw, chisel and adze.
@PenniacWilderness
@PenniacWilderness 3 года назад
Interesting! It is fascinating to hear and see all of the different ways cabins have been built. I have seen the type you are describing, and likely it is a very good way to build. I started this build as a novice at best, so the jigs were good for me to use. I got the plans for the jigs from logdovetailjig.com and then made them in the shop.
@johnnyholland8765
@johnnyholland8765 7 месяцев назад
You can do a lot fast with those jigs. That would be the way to go.
@MrJbunch1
@MrJbunch1 4 года назад
Great job
@PenniacWilderness
@PenniacWilderness 4 года назад
Thank-you!
@pedroaortiz7198
@pedroaortiz7198 5 лет назад
Beautiful work
@PenniacWilderness
@PenniacWilderness 5 лет назад
Thanks Pedro! Where are you from?
@pedroaortiz7198
@pedroaortiz7198 5 лет назад
I'm fro LA california and thx to you bro
@wallyverbeck1454
@wallyverbeck1454 4 года назад
@ 4:42---Half of a fraction is very easy to find. Also to double. One half of 1/2 is 1/4. One half of 11/16 is 11/32. All you have to do is double the bottom number. 19/64's becomes 19/128. To double, just go the other way. 1/4 becomes 1/2. 19/32 becomes 19/16's.
@PenniacWilderness
@PenniacWilderness 4 года назад
Thanks for that! Yea, I am so used to metric from my day job that fractions are not something I use regularly. I am picking it up though, I like your tip!
@colstace2560
@colstace2560 4 года назад
Did he say half of 10-1/8th was 4-1/16th ? Oh no 😲😲 stick with metric it's sooo much easier and better, catch up USA !!
@PenniacWilderness
@PenniacWilderness 4 года назад
@@colstace2560 Metric certainly comes more naturally for me, but I am trying to work with fractions as best I can. I don't think I really used fractions since math class in school though.
@40intrek
@40intrek 4 года назад
Converting fractions to metric is another problem, for me anyways. Whatever works for who ever is doing the work is a good rule. Thanks for the vid.
@oldtimeycabins
@oldtimeycabins 4 года назад
I’ve built cabins all my life- do not screw them together or use rebar to keep them from bowing!!!!! When the cabin settles there will be gaps and huge issues-
@masaigeraghty3525
@masaigeraghty3525 3 года назад
What other issues?
@garybiggs9010
@garybiggs9010 2 года назад
@@masaigeraghty3525 Just my thinking... Probably best to let the cabin settle many years and the logs to bend or move as they want. Do repairs as needed. If you use rebar or spikes, one problem log could effect several more that its tied too. This certainly could be an issue if you're using whatever logs you can scrounge on a DIY build vs logs that will probably be more stable from a log home company.
@chuckclark9464
@chuckclark9464 3 года назад
Dr. was just here in the states when people used to come over from Europe that's how it started here in the states.
@TheJwhollis
@TheJwhollis 4 года назад
Top notch !!!
@PenniacWilderness
@PenniacWilderness 4 года назад
Thanks! The cabin is coming together now. Those jigs worked out really well.
@hannahalexander7005
@hannahalexander7005 Год назад
try dry used coffee grounds pack in glass container pack it in add wick in center add cloves light smoke keep bugs away
@SpellsOfTruth
@SpellsOfTruth 3 года назад
I like your comment about the bugs. Treat em like your training with weights on, i like that. If the training becomes too unbearable hehe, rub 100% pine gum turpentine on you jacket and they'll never come near you. Pine tree secretes pine sap to protect exposed area of bark so that no bugs or bacteria get into the bare wood. Turpentine is made from distilled pine sap meaning its a super strong bug repellant.
@PenniacWilderness
@PenniacWilderness 3 года назад
Thanks for the tips! Some day I should actually try that. I have heard about it but never tried. Thanks for the comment.
@garvincentcia5873
@garvincentcia5873 4 года назад
When doing line work or chalk line if you spray hairspray on the line it will lock it in place , works best on doing tyal grid lines for house floors or medal fabrication lines.
@PenniacWilderness
@PenniacWilderness 4 года назад
Good tip! I did not know this. Thanks!
@garvincentcia5873
@garvincentcia5873 4 года назад
@@PenniacWilderness yes its hart to say ,, but every handyman or dyi guy should have a can of hairspray to lock chalk lines down , it best to ask the wife for a can if your to much of a real man, hahaha , that force you to remember hairspray , I just hope you dont forget if you ever have chalk a line grater the 25 meters thay all way disappear some place around the 12 to 14 meter mark.
@talltimberswoodshop7552
@talltimberswoodshop7552 4 года назад
Red chalk is supposed to be permanent.
@garvincentcia5873
@garvincentcia5873 4 года назад
@@talltimberswoodshop7552 nope not really ask any custom tyal layer . Hay my grand father was a army ranger in ww2 Normandy bunker bustier from fort Lee Virginia para school back in 1940s . And some please in Georgia. He was from New Mexico .
@billgross176
@billgross176 3 года назад
Telling your buddies you hair spray your chalk line is like telling them you pee sitting down... a friend told me so. 😂
@phi9249
@phi9249 4 года назад
Very well done lad.
@PenniacWilderness
@PenniacWilderness 4 года назад
Thanks Phi! Appreciate you writing :)
@stoneyswolf
@stoneyswolf 6 месяцев назад
I can understand 200 years ago why the used concrete or whatever between the logs to seal the gaps but you'd think by now something better would be used like a rubber seal that's squeezed between while it's being assembled. You know they would of back then if they had access to that sort of thing.
@jameschupp2230
@jameschupp2230 4 года назад
5 Thumbs Up... Great Job!
@PenniacWilderness
@PenniacWilderness 4 года назад
Thanks James! Appreciate it :)
@frank_the_ame_student539
@frank_the_ame_student539 3 года назад
great video! question, by using a jig and getting uniform cuts, are you not able to get a more precise fit? to save the amount of chinking? just curious. looking forward to seeing this cabin built!
@PenniacWilderness
@PenniacWilderness 3 года назад
Good question - I could have done the logs so there was no gap. I actually just like the look of chinking and wanted to try it. But you can make the jigs to creat any size gap, or no gap. Thanks for asking!
@hayseedfx
@hayseedfx 4 года назад
nice ..... very thorough work..... might need to add a link to woodland mills.... looks like that sawmill did it's part......h
@PenniacWilderness
@PenniacWilderness 4 года назад
Yes you are right! The mill and the support at Woodlandmills has been excellent. Could not have done it without them at all. Thanks for the comment!
@twodogsdave66
@twodogsdave66 Год назад
Are you planning to remove all the bark? Are you going to trim the dovetails shorter after you have all the walls up?
@1983bgw
@1983bgw 3 года назад
really amazing.
@PenniacWilderness
@PenniacWilderness 3 года назад
Thanks a lot!
@victoraraque8252
@victoraraque8252 2 года назад
Did you buy the Woodland Mills wood cutter I’m so inspired to make my own cabin I have a 12 acres land in Pennsylvania, so any tips would be a bless for me and my best wishes for you and your girl
@PenniacWilderness
@PenniacWilderness 2 года назад
I did - I got the Woodlandmills HM126 and very, very happy with it and the customer service.
@WilReid
@WilReid 3 года назад
You don't always need to deal with the fractions. If your sides are straight and parallel, angle your tape or better your framing square until your "measurement" is an easy number like 12" in this case from side to side. Mark the center/bisection at 6". That mark will line up with 5 1/8" measuring at 90 degrees across a 10 1/4" timber. I know you said yours had a taper but it's slight enough in this case that it wouldn't matter. Try it a few times and you'll be surprised how little error it introduces, even when measuring at a drastic angle.
@PenniacWilderness
@PenniacWilderness 3 года назад
Good points! That also would be a good way to do it. Thanks for taking the time and the detailed explanation.
@FinnishPlayground
@FinnishPlayground 5 лет назад
Nice jig! Seems to be much faster way to cut the logs than mine :)
@PenniacWilderness
@PenniacWilderness 5 лет назад
Ha! Well perhaps, but yours looks very nice and the hand work you are doing is incredible. We will see how mine all fit together. They may take some fine tuning. Will keep you posted
@shanegeorge7344
@shanegeorge7344 2 года назад
Be to draw out the pattern messer out each one show pieces
@kalev60
@kalev60 4 года назад
Simplest form of dovetail here, we would only use em for building where people don´t live in like barns, sheds maybe saunas, with out no wind blocking and stabilisation elements (that don´t allow the notch to move apart at all, you should not use em for living quarters in harsher climates. Although looks like not fully scribed, chinking style stuff so wind resistance isn´t high on list anyhow... Still lovely to see more people getting into dovetail log building...
@Pgcmoore
@Pgcmoore 4 года назад
outstanding!!!
@PenniacWilderness
@PenniacWilderness 4 года назад
Thanks!
@familienprojektblockhausni474
@familienprojektblockhausni474 3 года назад
Great Idea. Impressing.
@hillbillyherman738
@hillbillyherman738 2 года назад
I work in a big mill in Knox tn I am tackling my second run of dove tails I have 80 rt and 80 lft to cut we have an adjustable jig so anybody looking we sale the logs already dovetailed and ready to go the company is LDI outta knox tn we also do cheater corners or false corners and d lap sideing if ya wana cheat and build a look like cabin
@PenniacWilderness
@PenniacWilderness 2 года назад
Very interesting! Thanks for the message.
@davidtyndall9604
@davidtyndall9604 4 года назад
A very fast and accurate way to divide a fraction in half (in your head) is to just double the bottom number and leave the top number alone. I don't remember where I learned this trick but as a carpenter I have used it for over 50 years.
@PenniacWilderness
@PenniacWilderness 4 года назад
Thanks David for the comment!
@claytonsimplot9554
@claytonsimplot9554 6 месяцев назад
What is the average time to cut one log? How long to build a 12' x 12' x9' cabin? One door and one window.
@brianfedie8046
@brianfedie8046 4 года назад
Nice!
@PenniacWilderness
@PenniacWilderness 4 года назад
Thanks Brian! Take care :)
@GreatPlainsCraftsman
@GreatPlainsCraftsman 4 года назад
Just subbed. Awesome content. I just may have to build one myself! Look forward to the test of the build.
@PenniacWilderness
@PenniacWilderness 4 года назад
Thanks - You have some great projects and videos too. Spent some time on your channel today. Good to connect and thanks for the comment!
@GreatPlainsCraftsman
@GreatPlainsCraftsman 4 года назад
@@PenniacWilderness Thanks for tuning in. Hope to connect more in the future
@Average-Al
@Average-Al 2 месяца назад
For how long does the logs need to dry before you can cut dove tails in it?
@olgatarkhanova1667
@olgatarkhanova1667 4 года назад
Молодец просто СУПЕР.
@PenniacWilderness
@PenniacWilderness 4 года назад
Thank you so much! Really appreciate it. I will be in your country in August 2020 for a short while.
@Raul28153
@Raul28153 10 месяцев назад
It's prolly 4 years too late for this, but - - - had you made yourself a larger sight window ( 1.5" hole) for lining up the jig to the marks it'd be a heck of a lot easier and faster
@jimmyhunt9081
@jimmyhunt9081 4 года назад
Built a cabin with my uncle's and a couple cousins. Only thing precise was the cocoa. All hand tools. Dove tailed corners. Cut corners 1 at a time as we set em. Was in 87. Hiked to in about a year ago to show my daughter and all was almost precisely how it was originally. Biggest change was graffiti
@PenniacWilderness
@PenniacWilderness 4 года назад
Interesting, Jimmy. Important to have precise cocoa ha. Where are you located? I love seeing this style of construction. If you have a picture feel free to send it along penniacwilderness@outlook.com
@PenniacWilderness
@PenniacWilderness 4 года назад
@@5Gen Hi Billy - This project sounds really nice. I would love to see your progress. I enjoy learning how other builders do their work. I find I can learn so much from watching others work. You plan to make your own sawmill? That is impressive too! I am from eastern Canada - have never been to Virginia but would love to at some point!
@yvesreynaud4970
@yvesreynaud4970 Месяц назад
👍👍👍
@George196207
@George196207 3 года назад
Two inch gap is kind of large after going through all of this. Just as well go the extra mile and put a tunnel in each to take a 2x4 in them make no gap and use a sealing tape. Cement gap is going to be cold and need repair often.
@PenniacWilderness
@PenniacWilderness 3 года назад
Hi George - Thank you for the suggestions. The chinking method has been used for a long time and I hope that it will work well for me too. But you are right there are many other good ways to do it as well.
@peterteichroeb1772
@peterteichroeb1772 3 года назад
the gap was left intentionally large to make sure the logs in saggging over time would never touch. If they do then the corner joints loosen and the whole cabin can shift, creating gaps all over.
@randyrussell6246
@randyrussell6246 Год назад
Perma-Chink chinking is what you want NEVER use concrete or morter. It dries and looks like concrete or morter but acts like a rubber , it bonds to the wood and stretches when and where logs shrink. Been around since the early 80s . Bear Creek Log Home Restoration , Ellijay GA.
@my2cents945
@my2cents945 Год назад
consider using colored pencils when wood working. I've "lost" regular pencil marks, that's why I switched to colored pencils.
@robertwoelk26
@robertwoelk26 4 года назад
I hope you did not screw them. We did ours and as the logs dried they shrink sideways and you end up with gaps in the corners, because the log can't slide tighter. In the future we would drill a 1 inch hole an put a 5/8 ready rod top to bottom some play to allow the logs to be and stay tight in the corners.
@PenniacWilderness
@PenniacWilderness 4 года назад
Thanks! We will see how ours goes. Lots are pretty dry, but we did screw them for a few different reasons. Time will tell, I will wait to do the chinking and can use it if new gaps open up. Thanks Robert for the comment!
@Shnick
@Shnick 3 года назад
Cedar Hill State Park near Dallas has a few structures with these exact dovetails.
@PenniacWilderness
@PenniacWilderness 3 года назад
Interesting! I've been to Texas, but never knew about this area. I will look it up.
@eugenesiedl8685
@eugenesiedl8685 2 года назад
I need two different ones I need one for a 4 x 6 and I need one for a 6 by 10 what do you think the blueprints will cost me and where do I go to get them done to make that dovetail in
@PenniacWilderness
@PenniacWilderness 2 года назад
Logdovetailjig.com - The gentleman's name is Fred and he sells the plans. Great guy to deal with and very talented.
@Wingnut_Stickman
@Wingnut_Stickman Год назад
It is time to learn the trick to bisect a board, and locate the midpoint without fractions, almost. Run your tape across the board at an angle big enough to position the tape such that two even numbers sit precicely on the board edge. The point half-way between the two even numbers on the tape is the middle of the board. Do this in two spots and join them to extrapolate the middle to the end of the board. By using even numbers exclusively, you will never have do deal with an odd-ball fraction again. Math am I right?
@joannak4640
@joannak4640 3 года назад
Amazing ❤️
@PenniacWilderness
@PenniacWilderness 3 года назад
Thanks 😄 Have a great weekend, Joanna!
@Noone-rt6pw
@Noone-rt6pw 2 года назад
Dovetails on small work hold tight and square, where they don't have to be nailed. But, with a house, why not? Dry as dry can be, saturate with an epoxy, sealing the log, then bolt together as an extra measure, I'd guess a home could be like the wizard of Oz, where the whole cabin could be carried should a tornado come.
@PenniacWilderness
@PenniacWilderness 2 года назад
I hope it is solid! Dovetails are an interesting style of construction, both esthetics and strength are good.
@user-cd7wq9wi3v
@user-cd7wq9wi3v 8 месяцев назад
Hello...I would like to have the info. On the jig man...this is what I've been looking for...thank you...hope you can help
@glenwoodcampbell2734
@glenwoodcampbell2734 2 года назад
Help.so the jig has 2 different cuts a bottom and top ??
@paulheitkemper1559
@paulheitkemper1559 4 года назад
Or you could carry the centrelines down the front and back edges where they would come into direct contact with the line on the log. No confusing windows needed.
@PenniacWilderness
@PenniacWilderness 4 года назад
Hi Paul - Yes there are probably other good ways to do this too. The windows worked pretty good overall, but it did take some time. Thanks for commenting!
@shanepowell5115
@shanepowell5115 Год назад
As far as the bugs why not use bug spray??? Just curious
@PenniacWilderness
@PenniacWilderness Год назад
I do sometimes, but kind of prefer the bugs most of the time
@user-lo3zu7rg6v
@user-lo3zu7rg6v 3 месяца назад
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@eastcoasthistoryhunter2027
@eastcoasthistoryhunter2027 2 года назад
Umm. Wait what? The jigs are wood. So why not just use them to mark each log and just cut them without the jig?
@PenniacWilderness
@PenniacWilderness 2 года назад
The jig gives you a guide to ensure your cuts are accurate. But you could also make the marks and cut freehand too.
@McRocket
@McRocket 4 года назад
Cool.
@eugenesiedl8685
@eugenesiedl8685 2 года назад
And what size logs do you use to dovetail
@PenniacWilderness
@PenniacWilderness 2 года назад
Mine were 10 inch high and 6 inch wide
@joelormston2128
@joelormston2128 4 года назад
slick
@PenniacWilderness
@PenniacWilderness 4 года назад
There are many ways to do it, but this has worked for me so far.
@johnnyspot783
@johnnyspot783 4 года назад
Dude, so glad you made this video....I'm building the same jig from Fred as well. It was nice to see it in action on here with those tricky bevel cuts. I ordered an 11 degree router bit for that, since my table saw only can do one side. Grew up in Downeast Maine (across from St.Stephen), you must be outside Fredericton..? Good luck with your build..!! 😎
@PenniacWilderness
@PenniacWilderness 4 года назад
Hi Dean - I have family in Perry, Maine. Yes I am outside of Fredericton area. I used a table saw for one jig and a bandsaw for another one. They were a little tricky to cut but after they are done the jigs work great. When do you plan to start your cabin?
@johnnyspot783
@johnnyspot783 4 года назад
@@PenniacWilderness Small world, my Mom grew up in Perry. Our family grew up in Calais, but I was born just past Perry in Eastport. Anyways, I have 20 acres of 60 foot plus red and white pine. I've been felling logs slowly the past year or so to let them dry, I have a LT35 woodmizer to get them down to 7.25x10" I'm trying to do a zero gap. I only live 25 miles south of the property so its easy to get to.
@jdenmark1287
@jdenmark1287 4 года назад
Old timber framer here, Mainer exiled to Hawaii. Good job on your project and presentation. And good luck on yours.
@PenniacWilderness
@PenniacWilderness 4 года назад
@@jdenmark1287 Thanks! Hawaii sounds like an alright spot :) I am located just north of Maine in New Brunswick, Canada. Maine is a beautiful spot as well.
@812archer4life
@812archer4life 4 года назад
I've seen this style logs at Spring Mill state park in Mitchell Indiana.
@PenniacWilderness
@PenniacWilderness 4 года назад
Interesting - Yes I've seen them a few places but I've never been to Indiana. I like the style and always wanted to try building one.
@812archer4life
@812archer4life 4 года назад
Google has a lot of images of Spring Mill cabins or do one better, book a stay at the Inn. They have a water powered grist mill and saw mill in working condition.
@martinbyrne6643
@martinbyrne6643 4 года назад
Very nice job ‘ just one question ‘ I know the gaps between the logs are chinked ‘ can u tell me does there need to be some type of downward angle on the log faces to prevent water seepage into the cabin’ when the logs shrink’ eg driving wind and rain ‘ or as we call it here in Ireland horizontal rain ‘ thanks very well explained’
@PenniacWilderness
@PenniacWilderness 4 года назад
Hi Martin - Thanks for asking. Where in Ireland are you based? I actually have worked in Ireland before but am based in Canada. You ask a good question - I see some people use the downward angle on the logs and others do not. I am not sure yet what I will do. I have a lot of overhang on my roof to protect form the vertical rain. I could easily bevel the edge of the bottom of all of my logs before chinking though too to be safe. What are your thoughts? Are you building as well? I think you can also angle the chinking such that the upper portion of the chinking is recessed more in the joint than the lower portion and therefore creating a form of drip edge as well. Short answer is that I am still thinking it through and open to ideas!
@martinbyrne6643
@martinbyrne6643 4 года назад
Hello again ‘ yes I am building a cabin like yours 20 by 16 ft ‘ with them beautiful dovtails
@martinbyrne6643
@martinbyrne6643 4 года назад
Hallo again ‘ yes I an building a log cabin 20 by 16 ft ‘ with them beautiful corner dovetails ‘ the logs are mill top and bottom and milled on the inside ‘ with the live edge on the outside’ in other words d shaped ‘ there is a 5 degree fall out on the logs top and bottom ‘ with the inside vertical ‘ I think this system will help water to flow to the outside and not flow into the cabin ‘ with our horizontal rains ‘ I live in wicklow in the mountains ‘ the logs are milled on a bandsaw 8by 8 inches ‘ and milled with the 5 degree offset up against the saw bed stops ‘ I have the wall up and the vaulted roof nearly on ‘ I started this time last year ‘ and I think it will take me another year ‘ so a 2 year build ‘ but I love building it and it is a great learning experience 😄
@kerriwilson7732
@kerriwilson7732 3 года назад
@@PenniacWilderness big roof overhang (4'+) will save your walls & foundation better than eavestrough with the ice of a Canadian winter.
@frictionhitch
@frictionhitch 9 месяцев назад
If your wall is one standard unit. You need to divide it into 3 equal sections. Would you rather have the answer 0.4 or 0.33333333333333333333333333333333333333? How about 4? 0.3 or 0.25. How about 5? 0.24 or 0.2(i'll give you that one) How about 6? 0.2 or 0.166666666666666666666666666 Challenge your mind to think in duodecimal? I find decimal to be much worse. It really isn't close. BTW what time is it?🙂
@user-qr1mq8vj2k
@user-qr1mq8vj2k 4 года назад
👍 класс!
@getberget
@getberget 5 лет назад
Why is there gaps between logs ? I'm from Sweden and we never have 2 inch gaps that we fill with clay or cement. That's something I've only seen in American tvshows. Is there a reason for this? Nice video and aesome jig anyway. Looks like a nice build
@PenniacWilderness
@PenniacWilderness 5 лет назад
Good question - I am not entirely sure why they did this in America. I have also seen the gaps in cabins in Eastern Europe. I am guessing that part of the reason may be due to the twisting of green logs. With the gap between logs any twisting would not really affect the overall cabin structure. I am not certain if there are other reasons. Let me know if you find out! I wanted to build this style because I just really like the look :)
@jedidiah5131
@jedidiah5131 4 года назад
You use less logs, as many as 8 depending on the log diameters and the size of the gap you want, that saved a lot of man hrs when all you had were hand tools and horses.....and no precision required if the logs weren't perfectly straight....less frapping, I think thats what they called it when you used an adze or an ax to square/flatten the logs.... Some gaps are almost as much as 6"....
@PenniacWilderness
@PenniacWilderness 4 года назад
@@jedidiah5131 Good point about using less logs - for ever four - five logs I am using, I probably save one. Thanks for the comment!
@stevenhughes764
@stevenhughes764 4 года назад
Many log cabins were built with logs that were neither hewn nor sawn along their length - they were round and rough, so there were gaps that required chinking. Now people leave gaps without need, trying to look like those more rustic log cabins.
@Average-Al
@Average-Al 2 месяца назад
Thank you for asking this. I wondered the same myself. Now with saws being able to cut perfectly straight blocks it seems that it would create a better insulated house with no gaps at all and filling the space between with just some small strip of wool before placing the next layer of logs.
@stevedingman474
@stevedingman474 4 года назад
Wow a ton of prep but it’s much faster then when I made my cabin I cut the rounded notches in my as I went along !
@PenniacWilderness
@PenniacWilderness 4 года назад
Yes, there was not much progress to show for quite awhile due to all the prep work. It did make the walls go up fairly quickly though. The jigs are great though. I plan to use them in the future - perhaps for an out house too.
@N8sk8bus
@N8sk8bus 4 года назад
Did you let the logs dry first? If so how long? Thanks
@PenniacWilderness
@PenniacWilderness 4 года назад
I did for about 9 months. Some say longer is needed. Others say you can build green. I really don't know what's best.
@oklahomacrabber
@oklahomacrabber 5 лет назад
Nice! Thanks
@PenniacWilderness
@PenniacWilderness 5 лет назад
Thank you as well :)
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