"Down A Bit From Tromsø" | Two Of These People Are Lying 3x03 

Like a true british panel show, they have completely forgotten the rules and counting points and just do what feels like the biggest laugh.

Alternate Title: Three of these people are lying, but one of them is accidentally correct.

To be fair, Gary's description of HURCON was so bad that as someone who has spent his whole life in hurricane areas, I didn't believe him either, and had to look at the article. He had the scale backwards - HURCON isn't related at all to the category 1-5 of the Saffir-Simpson scale, but is a countdown of how long you have until the hurricane hits It's a military term (it's not used by the general public), very much like DEFCON, and like DEFCON the lower the number, the more imminent the threat. HURCON 5 is "you have 3 days until the storm" and HURCON 1 is "The storm is currently on top of you". I think he managed not to give a single item from the actual article other than "Hurricane Condition"

We are judging Gary for the bold claim of "oldest in Eurovision" but we're missing the fact that it changed from 1995 to 1985 mid-argument.

This is the best episode of Two Of These People Are Lying yet. Featuring: The wrong person lying, magically changing years, misunderstanding your own article (Twice, cause Gary completely misunderstood HURCON!), Luchadores, and "I KNEW IT!".

Gary successfully cons himself out of a point, and has absolutely no regrets

After his fluke on "down a bit from Tromsø", Matt wasn't a million miles away from a real thing with his last lie either. There is a "Mexican" wrestler called El Ligero who has been a mainstay of the UK indie scene for almost 20 years, and is currently in WWE. But he's from Leeds, not Wigan.

Petition for the series to be renamed "Truth, Lies and Scandinavia"

We're the Technical Difficulties and this is "Two of These People Think They're Lying"

"And some of them have airports" either slipped past Tom or he willfully ignored it because he didn't want to relive it

I wrote my car off this morning, and Matt's Lancastrian luchador not being real is still the most disappointing thing that's happened to me today.

"To those of you used to us being the voice of truth. Both of you. . . " went severely under appreciated

The Lule-sami is legitimally the name of the group around the river. Love hearing my region being butchered Greeting from Lule(å)

And that's it for this run! Just a short three episodes this time; thanks for watching, and we'll be back later in the year! -- Tom

Not only has this show evolved from testing Toms deductive capacities against the trio's bluffing skills to the trio doing their utmost to just screw him over on camera - it has also quickly surpassed even Citation Needed as my favourite thing on youtube. :) Also, YAY all the scandinavian themes! :D

Having checked the article, I can say that Gary didn't know his own choice very well because he got the scale entirely wrong. It indicates how far out the hurricane is, with level 5 being 96 hours and 0 being "it's already here." Has nothing to do with the severity of the winds.

I think Chris has a tell. When it's his article, he gives some dry factual stuff sounding vague, and then after the reveal, he tells the entertaining story of scrapyard F-104s and classified jet engines (or whatever), whereas when he's bluffing, he _leads_ with the entertaining story.

Now renamed to: All of these people have no idea.

Listening to Matt seductively murmur the word "discharge" into a radio microphone has ruined my life, thank you for this.

I sort of knew that eventually someone would accidentally make up the article from scratch, but that was WAY closer than I expected for the third series. Well done Matt.

The little split second in which Tom realizes that Gary's "Hurcon" was the correct one and they both stare into each other is comedy gold right there. I can imagine both of their minds thinking "I can't believe this you motherf***er"

This was one hell of a last episode, the liars even managed to fool themselves! Chris misunderstood his own article enough that Matt actually became the one telling the truth somehow, then Gary gives such a terrible description of HUR-CON that he might as well have been lying (though that bluff was top-notch)!

“We still don’t have an outro” is basically the outro at this point.

As a person from Tromsø, that whole Lule Samì bit was so confusing when they gave the point to Chris. I really started doubting my own reality.

Wouldn't be a Tech Dif production without a "giggling to the point of choking" segment.

I'm pretty sure at this point Gary is just screwing with Tom whenever it's his card by giving the worst possible description on purpose.

Love how the year for Lule Sami changed from 1995 to 1985 and no one noticed

This has got to be the weirdest episode of this series. Everything was all over the place, it was like a there was a Hurcon in effect xD I am literally in tears right now

Why is there a framed picture of Hulk Hogan behind Chris' head?

Gary is chaotic evil incarnate, just out to wind tom up even if it's his own article!

The Dory on the bookshelf gets me everytime I see it

I've rewatched these so many times and yet only NOW am I noticing the moving Dory in the background!!

I think Matt gets Mystery Biscuits for being accidentally right xD

'what do the numbers represent?' 'How bad the hurricane is.' Frankly a masterful bit of play from Gary there.

Tom: Lule Sami Me, a linguistics major: this is gonna be fun Edit: Chris, wtf?

As a Norwegian, who knows about the Lule Sami language, it was interesting hearing the other people making up lies about it

The Hurcon “wind wind wind wind” bit has just completely finished me off! 🤣 Also, I’m from Wigan and could totally see the whole Bolton wrestling competition being an actual thing 😂

10:13 And Tom has appeared in an UKPW event, next time he will be there as the Gripper Scott.

I love how Gary feels the need to convince Tom that he isn't telling the truth when he is and therefore not getting the point :P

"I know some people who know some people who have an indie wrestling promotion" And to think just a couple years later, Tom would get roped into a wrestling night

"Twisters are the weather that picks up cows." As a native Kansan, I can confirm this is a thing that does happen. On one occasion, a twister picked up an older gentleman from what remained of his living room and forcefully integrated him with his gravel driveway, so, yeah, cows are within their capacity too.

Still wondering when everyone will learn that "double bluffing" isn't a helpful strategy in this game.

This was bizarre. I'm from just south of Luleå. The city that gives its name to both the river and the portion of sami who lives along its river valley. So I knew Matt was right which made me very impressed by Chris knowing the name of our county for his bullshiting 😂

Matt's accidental truthing (about geography of all things) and Gary's childishly devious manipulation were absolutely hilarious! Brilliant stuff. I've never seen a man dismantled so effortlessly by *anybody's* favourite Gary Brannan, let alone *everybody's* favourite Gary Brannan. Speaking of which, kudos to Chris in the second half for nailing the precise sort of "something you may not have known" that is guaranteed to make you want to pick him, even if it ultimately failed versus Matt's truly magnificent tale. Also, Scandinavia is becoming your new France, as regards wheel-spinning and the like. As a Scot and thus historic best frenemy of both areas, I very much approve. I'd like to see the return of the tongue-twisting alliteration gags though... I'm scared that Matt might explode without the creative outlet.

Gary "I don't care if i don't get points as long as Tom does not get a point" Brannan at his finest That's why he is our favourite Gary Brannan

"In case of tsunami, this is where 'Up' is." What?! This is something I need a Tom Scott video on!

Scoring idea: Since the game only really works when the person telling the truth is trying to convince Tom they're lying, make it so the game is everyone vs. Tom. If Tom guesses correctly he gets a point. Otherwise, everyone else gets a point. If Tom guesses incorrectly, the person he thought was telling the truth gets a bonus point.

This is weird because there is a guy called Danny going for the Finnish Eurovision entry this year, who is 78 and a famous crooner who's been around since the 60s, singing a song with a really long name in Finnish about what he wants to happen at his funeral. Made me think of this immediately when I heard it 😮

This week on "Three of these people don't want Tom to win"...

There is a Mexican wrestler from Leeds called El Ligero, and WWEs peak was late 90s/early 2000s, so not far wrong

I hadn't actually weighed the ramifications of this filling me with all sorts of wrong bar trivia knowledge hahaha

This is where I get all Smugginton Smythe and say that the oldest act in Eurovision was the double bass player for Takasa, Switzerland's entry in 2013.

Season 10 will have an outro I'm sure

7:35 "he got close enough to still deserve the point" But didn't Matt always deserve the point as Tom picked him? What changes after the reveal is that Tom also gets the point but nothing changes for Matt.

Tom, MY ONLY COMPLAINT (other than I'll never be on a filming of one of these) Is there's not enough of them!

17:13 "If that's fake, it was incredibly fast thinking" brought up massive argument. Yet Tom said that same thing to Chris at 12:47.

This was the best thing since DEFCON was misunderstood as people with hearing difficulties conference...

Gary leading with "windy!" Had me shattered.

Here's a new rule: no more Scandinavian countries for you guys. Tom actually needs to win.

Tom: "I _want_ Matt's to be true" Chris: "I want Matt's to be true" Tom: "I also quite like Chris's" Chris: "I quite like Chris's" 17:01

"Matt, is it the wrestler?" "From wigan?" "YES!" "course it f*cking isn't"

It's moments like the Lule Sami that beg for the return of Mystery Biscuits.

Boys, please bring this back, I need more of this joy in my life

Gary, you don't win if you convince Tom you're lying when you're not!

Tom, it might be useful to put the name of the article onscreen as you read them out so the viewers can see the spelling.

I think I scared the living daylights out of my mother by laughing at the point where Tom and Gary stood and pointed out of each other at Tom's pure shock 😂 and the thing is, I googled it beforehand (although already knowing) and thought, "No, Tom, don't rule him out, don't ru- well, you ruled him out." I love this series! I hope we will see Series 4 🤣

As someone who spent their early years "down a bit from Tromsø", can't wait for Tom and the gang to slate Scandinavians a bit more this episode ;)

I think a fun extra mechanic if you guys ever come back to this is to have everyone write down their votes on who they think it is and reveal them simultaneously. Also, please get Tom on the other side of the table, it'd be great.

11:51 This is the most underrated joke, has literally had me in stitches for a good 10 minutes

"A Mexican wrestler... from Wigan" ... was the point after which it became utterl irrelevant who was actually true and who lied ;)

I do want to remind Gary, again, that the goal is to CONVINCE you of the truth, not the other way around.

Watching this a year later and realizing it is recorded at Matt Grays place due to the soft serve ice cream machine hiding in the background.

the longer the pandemic goes on, the more i miss this show. hope you're all staying safe and socially distanced, lads!

Gary is playing a completely different game than the other three

This has to be the best ever. I was so confused when Matt said "no"... I live in Sweden, hence the great confusion.

just rewatching these for the nth time when i feel the need to point out how this is now the default game when i think "that show what those technically difficult brits do" it has completely eclipsed citation needed in my mind

Gary, Chris, and Matt going off on "wiiiiind" is what I've been waiting for since the start of Two Of These People Are Lying. The bonkers near-tangental stuff is what I LOVE about TechDif

The funny thing is: "Thats our show" "We still don't have an outtro" That! That IS the outtro!

I'm a simple man. I see Technical Difficulties, I click.

Who wishes they would’ve done more in quarantine?

Gary is a national treasure. That ending was hilarious!

I just rewatched all of this... I really hope you'll be able to make more of this. =)

This is my new favourite panel show after Citation Needed. Which I also only discovered this week

I would love for this to be brought back

This show has definitely improved a lot since season one. A lot more of the silly talents we all loved from Citation Needed.

That ending was brilliant

So, Lule Sámi is actually an official language around the Lule river in Sweden, and is spoken by the Sámi people there.

When I heard “to end this season”, that really hurt😢😢😢😢

As a geography nerd which is very particular when it comes to certain things, them calling finland as scandinavia in round 1 just annoyed me

It is surprising how when rewatching, I still sometimes believe the wrong person.

I just love that Gary never takes to heart that if his is the true thing, he's supposed to convince Tom. Always just goes full bluff regardless!

Gary Brannan is a genius and a national treasure

Clearly the objective of this game is to make the audience to burst out laughing the whole show - thank you for that

That ending was perfect. cant wait for next season!

Can't wait for COVID to end, so we can get more of this show!!

PLEASE make more series of this! It's amazing!!

I'd love to see Chris and Tom swap roles next time.

Gary doesn’t necessarily play to win, he plays to make sure Tom loses, and I am absolutely *here* for it. No RagRets

Back for my yearly rewatch of all the TOTPAL and Citation Needed episodes

One thing to note, is that in the event of the hurricane evacuations many dual carriageways can be converted into one big one way road out, as in away from the coastal cities, Houston, Galveston etc.