DRS being free to use anywhere you want so long as you can make the downforce to remain stable is so much more interesting than the current setup. No wonder it's not like that anymore.
@@alsa4real Zooming around at 250+ kph is inherently unsafe anyway. Shit breaks on F1 cars and sends 'em flying into walls all the time, and people don't die because the cars aren't made of paper mache and the walls absorb the energy. Live a little.
When taking T1 you can see how he rapidly makes a correction because the rear wing was lifting up because of the lack of downforce. Mark acknowledged this behaviour of the car and still went flat out. 2011 was such a season.
@@tangofoxtrott7971 it didn't "start to take-off" but since there's no downforce flowing there the rear wheels aren't so pushed to the ground in comparison to the front wheels, this results in a massive loss of control because of the difference of grip levels between both wheels
@@DonLee1980 This. Making similar lap speed on twisty tracks through lightness and design ingenuity instead of just brute force is far more impressive.
@@idexpro8263 of course, they were heavier than previous generations, but they were still 50-60 centimeters shorter and 150 kg lighter than than current cars
I don’t get people creaming themselves over the sound. “Old cars sound better”. Who cares that the 2004 cars sound nice when the racing was the most boring that F1 has ever seen.
@@jk844100 part of it is because of nostalgia and im not even talking about the V10 era. The V8s were good enough in 2010 and the racing was phenomenal.
The RB7 is also great in that it has a wicked blown diffuser sound. My all time favorite F1 car. Little fact, Sebastian Vettel used to call this car "Kinky Kylie".
if my memory correct, i think they ban blown diffuser at that race, you can hear downshift sounds very different, with blown diffuser downshift way violence .
@@bukharijabarazman2700 yes and no, only that Silverstone race banned in 2011,if my memory correct i think 2011, if not then 2012 ?but i pretty sure is that race 2011 Silverstone, part of reason Alonso won that race , just because no blown diffuser , and you can hear the downshift sound, blown diffuser downshift not like that.
@@bukharijabarazman2700no he is right for the 2011 British GP the blown diffusers were banned. This is why Alonso could absolutely dominate the scenery in a much closer top game. It also showed that Ferrari couldn’t capitalise on the diffuser’s potential, but had a decent enough chassis to just contend with the top dogs. I mean the race of course
@@bukharijabarazman2700 and no matter Renault or Mercedes engine ,blown diffuser downshift all sounds like that , violence ,very violence ,almost sounds like "is something broken? " very characteristics sound.
@johnchen871 Yes, however, the cars themselves were smaller and on top of that, the aerodynamic profile was smaller so therefore the impact percentage is likely the same
@@Zen_1g Doesn't matter what size the cars were. You measure DRS change and if the wing is 2x smaller, then car size in general does not matter (it's not 2x smaller)
Great Video my Friend. Keep up the brilliant Work.Seb had the DRS Open through T1 in the Race in 2018 when he was chasing Bottas. He was the only driver to do so apart from Ericsson but he crashed.
In the 2011 British GP Q3 the track was still very slighlty damp, so that makes Webber's attempt even more impressive 😊 Button was however extremely cautious due to slippery track. There was plenty more interesting flat-out DRS running in 2011 and 2012 (from 2013 DRS was limited in quali)- the best are of course 130R, then turns 7-8 in Korea, Blanchimont was actually easily DRS-flat and finally I can recall turn 2 in Abu Dhabi - those are the big ones 😆 I might have missed something, though. Of course there were a lot easy corners taken flat 😉
The 2011 rb7 has to be one of if not the greatest V8 title winning f1 car ever. Absolutely a car that very much was the peak and gold standard of the blown exhaust diffuser era of V8 f1 cars. The car was often said to be a refinement version of their previous title winning car RB6 but this is one of the few times where Adrian Newey and his technical team very much perfected many of the ideas from the RB6 to a new extreme that it was inch perfect
Ahh man, I use to love this on F1 2011. Yeah it’s not irl. But on the game, you were ALWAYS hunting for a place to use DRS. Not matter how sure the straight was, or if it was a slight kink corner or sharp kink before or after a straight. It made quali exciting.
it also helps when the car speeds weren't as high, and the cars weighed 150kg less. downforce/weight = grip. 150kg less weight means a LOT more grip from the downforce.
Exactly... these current heavy ass cars are on the brink of not being F1... no one speaks of how regressive and hurting the recent 2 reg changes have been with regards to weight...
Sebastian vettel still holds the record for most poles in a season 15 out of 19 I remember watching him have his rear wing open in 130r and as a kid i was so confused thought he broke his wing
@@turbobrick3419 yes, your comment is really dumb. Nowadays drivers don't even understand the risk the ones that came before were willing to take. You're just a sad excuse of a clown
Warning: Big rant about the 2018 cars closing the DRS incoming . . . 1. In 2018, both the rear wing and the DRS gap were much bigger than the pre-2017 era, resulting in a massive loss of rear df. Still a lot more grip than the early 2010s, but much less than the front tyres. 2. With the older cars, you would constantly be slipping and sliding, while the modern cars drive like they're on rails, so when you lose the tyres, you've got no heuristic sense about which way you'll be facing (especially if you’re a methodical chap like Vettel...). 3. The modern tyres are designed to be fragile (because FIA tells Pirelli to make them fragile, so blame FIA). Which, combined with the 2017-21 demonic levels of downforce, any sliding would most likely get you a big flat spot. 4. Flipping the DRS close and open shifts the weight backwards, and the last era was all about maximising exits.
Should be noted that part of the reason they closed drs in 2018 (at least Hamilton is that clip. I feel like I recall other drivers taking it with DRS open.) is because they were approaching the corner at a higher speed due to the greater power of the V6T engines.
If you ever opened drs in a older F1 games in a corner, for example 2012 that had great physics, or some good simulators, you know how ballsy and on the edge it is in an F1 car. If you open it withouth fully prepeared you just instantly spin off to the gravel
This is why we need lighter cars. If we get way lighter cars they can cope with the downforce loss, so we can have lighter cars, less dirty air, but still around the same speeds
I hope they put a scene in the new F1 movie that they drive a car from this era. Or even better a blown diffuser, it's funny that when you ask people how an F1 car sounds they likely will do the sound of that era not nowadays.
No in 2018, the Red Bull cars were able to go through T1 at silverstone with their DRS open. I’m 100% sure they did that in free practice but I’m not sure if they did that in qualifying. The Mercedes could do that too but they didn’t want to risk it
remember when RB6 was going though turn 8 in Turkey 20 km/h faster than any other car? This is by the same guy who designed the "crappy car" that's leading F1 today.
if im not mistaken, i think 2011 season that Silverstone race banned hot blown diffuser , I can hear that WEBBER RB7 downshift sounds very different than blown diffuser one , blown diffuser downshift sound extremely violence , so that RB7 downforce even greater with blown diffuser?
I'm gonna half jokingly say that the Mclaren probably could have had the DRS open in those turns, it's just those drivers didn't have the balls for it lol
btw how is drs controlled, does the driver has complete control over activation/deactivation? If 2 cars are in DRS zone, can the car ahead turn ON DRS?
That rule cycle was rather interesting. One season was close, the other one Red Bull dominated, repeat. Some people use this as a "they need to keep rules longer because teams close the gap" excuse and it makes no sense. The rule stayed for 5 years as always and teams didn't exactly close the gap. It was just random close/dominance seasons.
2011 RB made a monster of a car tbh but 2013 teams waived the white flag earlier than usual due to the big 2014 changes hence the way the season ended the Pirelli tire changes after Silverstone that year basically ended the title as well
@@Willbrse I was simply talking about 2011 and 2013 but the domination in 09/11/13 can be explained The double diffuser for Brawn in 09 Perfecting the blown diffuser for Red bull in 2011 Tire changes after Silverstone and other teams stopping development earlier for Red Bull for 2013
