This is one of my favorite ever Star Trek scenes -- especially regarding Spock's character development. He finally "gets it" here. This is such a pivotal turning point for Spock regarding his endless struggle to maintain logic without succumbing to emotion. He begins the movie having (nearly) purged all emotion. He finally realized, after mind melding with V'ger, that with NO emotion there is emptiness. That he would not experience the true feeling of friendship he has with Kirk and Bones. After this scene and in the continuing movies and even in his bits in TNG, you see a changed Spock. A Spock who is finally at peace with himself and has finally found that balance between logic and emotion. Human and Vulcan. Finally at peace with himself.
@@gmailkrause4213 Nailed it. Yes, this was the pivotal moment in Spock's character development where he accepted both his Vulcan and human heritage, made peace within himself, and it guided Nimoy's performance in all subsequent Spock appearances.
Almost there. There is a scene where as they enter further into V'ger, Spock cries over V'ger's isolation and hopelessness and the crew confronts him about it. I'm annoyed no one has uploaded that scene.
Hal Wakka. Actually, her character is Dr. Chapel and the actress is the wonderful Majel Barrett. She was married to Gene Roddenberry and was the computer’s voice until she died, right up to J.J. Abrams’ ST! Therefore: no impression needed, it is her normal voice.🤔👌🏽 Her voice is so good, she is also the voice of railroad radio channels throughout the USA, e.g. Union Pacific. Cool, right? 🤩 As you may know, she was also Lwaxana Troi, Deanna’s mother later in ST TNG.👩👧😉
she is not a nurse anymore, between the end of TOS and the Motion Picture she went to medical school and became a doctor. And yes, Majel Roddenberry is the voice of the computer in almost every Trek until the first Kelvinverse movie.
@@SantomPh Well, Jim, I hear Chapel's an M. D. now... Well I'm gonna need a top nurse, not a doctor who'll argue every diagnosis with me. And they've probably redesigned the whole sickbay too..... I know engineers, they love to change things!
@@IndomitableT ...and Majel also played Number One in 'The Cage' (first ST pilot - filmed in 1964 - aired in 1966): ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-zm6gXHh7ixs.html
@@johnbockelie3899 Finally, a person of color is put in command. That is historic. Notice, though, it took Starfleet decades after this before they put a black person in the captain's chair? And decades after that a woman? I have to wonder if the Enterprise would have done better with a female captain instead of Kirk.
@@trhansen3244 Ahhhh, shaddup. Remember Kirk's court martial in the original series? They had all the colors of the rainbow on the panel, all high ranking officers who would have held commands.
It kind of gives you the wrong ID that a nurse is just a less educated MD. It's a different field, although very similar. There are nurses which have PhDs. An MD is not anywhere near a PhD.
I have not been able to get this scene out of my head since I saw it in a movie theater last week. This scene articulated something that I did not know how to express until that moment. I have seen this scene I don't know how many times before when I was younger and I thought it was a good scene, but it hits me differently now that I'm older. Like V'ger, I am asking questions. I am asking the same questions. I simply hope I find Spock's wisdom on my search.
Many millions of years ago... on the planet Cybertron, life existed, but not life as we know it today. Intelligent robots who could think and feel inhabited the cities. They were called Autobots and Decepticons, but the brutal Decepticons were driven by a single goal... total domination. They set out to destroy the peace-loving Autobots, and a war between the forces of good and evil raged across Cybertron. Devastating all in it's path, draining the planet's once rich sources of energy. The Autobots on the verge of extinction, battled valiantly to survive...
Brilliant scene. A favorite of mine. As Bruce Lee said 'don't think....feel. Its like a finger pointing to the moon. Don't concentrate on the finger or you will miss all that heavenly glory...'
People who claim that The Motion Picture is too much about visual effects at the expense of the characters have missed what the film is all about. Kirk, Spock, and McCoy all have great character moments and great character development throughout the film. Especially Spock. Everything that happens in this film is why he is the content, fulfilled person we see in Wrath of Khan. His encounter with V'Ger finally allows him to resolve his human/Vulcan conflict and accept who he is.
Spock is trying to conceal and hide his emotion, while Vyger is looking for something more which happens to be emotion.when Decard becomes one with Vyger. I think Spock learned a lot about himself when mind melding with Vyger.
This was a great scene. They should have changed Spock out of his spacewalk suit. Everybody else is in long sleeves and he's in a no sleeve shirt, yet he doesn't complain about being cold. He just looks really tired after that mind meld.
@@peterp2153It took until the Director's Cut became more widely accessible for TMP to be better appreciated. That's the version of TMP worth experiencing first before seeing the rushed theatrical cut.
V'ger would probably have spared Data's existence because he is a brother machine, though it would have learned from him the relationships he has with his Human/Klingon/Vulcan/Bajoran, etc crewmates and learned to see the Carbon Units as true life forms. Data would have likely become the go between or locutionist for V'ger and V'ger would likely have wanted to "join with the creator" just the same because understanding emotion is not the same as experiencing it. Just my two cents, but that would have made a great episode!
I'm two minutes into this scene. It's better than anything being done right now in Star Trek. And this film is not even considered one of the "good ones" so sad. Save your money and rewatch the originals and TNG. bleh
Yes, that is later, after Kirk gives the self-destruct command. Spock weeps for V’Ger as he would a brother, knowing it will ‘die’ without finding the answers to life’s questions that it (and Spock) is seeking.
There is some discussion regarding the fate of this machine planet. One story holds that they were assimilated by the Borg at one point. The other is they ascended, a third is they still exist, waiting on a call from V'Ger to come through.
Perhaps, but not likely. Spock said the planet was populated by living machines, not human-cyborgs. I believe that planet to be far more advanced than the Borg could ever be.
In one of William Shatners star trek novels that takes place after the star trek generations movie he confirms that v'ger was borg and so was Spock because of his mindmeld with v'ger
@@stevealdrich6162 unfortunately, according to the suits, the books are non Canon. Honestly, though? It was my head Canon since 1988 when the born first appeared. I always had it in my head that V'ger was some incarnation of the Borg.
Doubtful. "V'ger has knowledge than spans this universe" -- the Borg controlled "only" a large swath of the Delta Quadrant 100 years after the events of this movie. Hardly universe-spanning knowledge.
I wonder if Spock was talking about Cybertron??? About the planet of living machines. And when I was teen. I asked my parents. Growing up the same question. Is this all that I am? Is there nothing more???
Not the most flattering angle for the ectomorphic Nimoy, though it portrays a certain vulnerability the scene was attempting to convey. A director like Robert Wise probably did it deliberately, showing the intellectually and physically adept Vulcan completely at the mercy of the illogical, frail humans much like V'ger felt.
I think Roddenberry, or maybe Harve Bennett said that they ran out of budget or they would have hired Robert Fletcher, who did the uniforms for TWOK. This film could have looked very different.
@@danclark1348 Yes, but they were hell the ruggedest mile to make, and get to look right. I went to a Con in Atlanta in the early 80s, and I've never seen so many people in ill-fitting gray pajamas.
Not necessarily. Spock is merely talking about compassion. They've all worked together for many years and developed a friendship that includes the female crewmembers on the ship as well. Spock has his friendships that also includes Saavik-who he later marries-and Lt.Valeris (for a short time, no doubt) and Leila Kalomi. Kirk also had his females as well.
So the humands Created Vger..(Voyager 1) it goes to the Borg homeworld, and then borg send it back, looking for its Creator.... Easier said then done???? The creator is dead, by the time they hit the Kelvin Timeline......(shrugs)
I apologize to all the other comment writers. I understand their passion. But, except for seeing the Enterprise for the first time, I thought this movie was the worst of the lot. So boring and so stiffly acted. Again I’m sorry.
Even this scene is miles better then "Strange New Worlds" so far. I'm sorry but I just can't get into it. Nothing will ever top the Original Series, TNG, Deep Space Nine and Enterprise. The days of "Good Trek" I unfortunately think are over.
