Dr. K and Mrs. K on the Friendzone 

You can intend to NOT be charming with your behaviour and the way you speak, which in itself can be considered flirting if you're not careful, being nice in a wrong situation can be misinterpreted as just.. flirting. So again, what is the difference? :/

@@adloltery This will forever be known as Bobby's Flirt Paradox!

@@adloltery perhaps the difference is whether or not the interaction increases the tension or lowers it? Flirty behaviour increases the tension and charming behaviour lowers it? Like whenever you flirt there is always that sexual or emotional underlying context. If you simply appear charming then even if topic of discussion is sexual in nature there is no potential in it to be interpreted as such. At least i think so.

@@adloltery no you can't, you would have to force yourself to NOT be charming which would feel fake and uncomfortable, so the difference is flirting is ON PURPOSE while being charming is just a character trait

@@adloltery You're overthinking this.

Well man the social anxiety could tell so many different things that at the same time contradict themselves

Right on , that means your my step bro/sis

Stepbro I'm stuck in the washing machine

What are you doing stepbro

You Guys are playing with my kink... oh also „our parents“ *communism theme starts playing*

memeking My Indian internet parents

I say the difference between charming and flirting is what you excpect out of it. The motive? bnsiklgnjidlksg

Good shit king

Women are human beings too! What a concept!

Neapolitan it sounds simple on paper but some dude literally do grow up without meaningful connection to women their whole lives. Don’t trivialize that concept. There’s a reason it’s easy to dehumanize people you never meet.

@@saloonboone Interesting! I was somewhat the opposite, being raised entirely by my mother and had to watch her do some real shady things. My young sponge-like brain interpreted that as "oh okay, so women are just shady". It also didn't help that being a fat nerd growing up, there weren't a lot of women around willing to talk. Fortunately though in getting into the real world I've been able to have more encounters with them, and through a number of online videos explaining their points of view I've been able to move away from that toxic mindset. Good on you for being able to form relationships with them now, keep up the good work bud!

@@xDDufiosy Thank you for this, though I can also understand what Neapolitan is thinking (to an extent). Often we forget that the ways we were raised is not at all the way other people were raised; my best example of this would be people growing up in well-off families not being able to fathom that people in the inner-city would resort to crime, despite the apparent lack of education available to them, which would just breed even worse role models. Always nice to see someone willing to take a step back and understand though, thank you!

Its okay to inconvenience people, especially if they never reciprocate it.

@@xDDufiosy Absolutely. People may keep leeching if you are willing to make sacrifices even when they never would do so for you.

I know i that i always try to make everyone comfortable but I don’t know how i am sacrificing for them.. i would like to stop doing so when i know exactly how

@@toushiri9476 I guess it would be a sacrifice if you are giving up something to help them. If you are doing it willingly, and it doesnt cost you, and they would do similar stuff for you, that's normal.

He talks about it for a few minutes in his interview with mizkif

Perhaps this is rooted in a skewed perception of men? I can relate to this, and for me I used to get nervous around them because I would perceive them as sort of out of my league, smarter than me, funnier, etc so I often let them do the talking at first and I'd simply avoid them every chance I could get. But I've come to realize this perception is a combination of my own insecurities I feel towards myself as well as holding a skewed, idealized version of how men generally are in comparison to me. Men are humans with as many flaws and quirks as anybody else. How we come to hold this mindset varies obviously but dig deep and ask yourself where these engrained perceptions come from. Reframing your distorted perspective and rerouting your inner self talk is how you change this behavior

@@sativadva It's interesting for me to hear this because as a guy this is exactly how it works for us as well. I wonder how often people miss out because they are too scared to take a chance..

Dude your picture is Weed? 🤣

Imp Lord gotta appreciate it

Just make sure you still don't have feelings for her. That can be latent and eat you up from the inside without you even knowing about it.

thanks i needed this

@@Panlover_ You're welcome !

Okay... and who’s fault is that?

@@looksmax4207 I literally stated it wasn't inherently anyone's fault lmao try reading the whole comment

this is beautiful! gg.

I mean, why are you stressed about it? Serious question

@@georgeshibley9529 since there is only 1 week left then my chance may be gone

Redrebel what happens if your chance is gone? Will you never have another chance with another person ever again? (Again serious question and thx for the first response 😁)

@@georgeshibley9529 its just i have not had anyone like this stick to my mind

Redrebel that’s a fair response. Why is this person that important to you? Why does she stick to your mind unlike other girls? What’s kept you from telling her?

Thank you.

She’s a solid 6... with makeup on

@@looksmax4207 unironic incel

banana man lmao what. Why would you simp for his wife she’s not even that hot??

Thanos Mighty Halle berry? Jada pinkett? Beyonce?

Thanos Mighty I’m saying you’re WRONG. You pick the baddest girl her looks don’t fade idiot

Abe yaar

🤣🤣🤣

Yeah, I was thinking the same

👏👏👏👏👏👏

​That's hard for some people, great you did it.​

That's sounds more like being a simp

@@mathwizard296 how is it being a simp? o.o so if you make a female friend then you are a simp?

@@zeppelinled3967 no he said key word sacrificing money

Well that is more of a simp thing.

M OMEGALUL E

PepoG, just looked it up myself :)

What's up? How is everything?

Lmfao

Guys and girls do this. She's was not playing with his feelings lmfao. She was enjoying her perception that someone else finds her desirable through harmless flirtation. Once it becomes a reality that he not only finds her desirable but wants to pursue something with her romantically her continuing to flirt without any intention of exploring what may exist past that makes it playing with his feelings. That's when it stops being harmless. If the guy is really crushing on her (without her knowing) and continues engaging in harmless flirtation that is completely on him. He has built his own expectation that something might come of it without engaging her in an honest conversation about whether or not that is possible. The girl cannot be responsible for that unless her initial flirtation wasn't harmless (ie gratuitous and likely sexual rather than just complementary and "fun").

I would tend to side towards you, because I tend to be "friendzoned" way too fast, like I feel girls don't even give the "let's see if..." chance to me and I know I would get my hopes up if I got positive feedback lmao, but considering what Mr K said about not following your social anxiety sense, I think she just has lacks that social anxiety. She can put her feelings first. It's not manipulative, it's not playing with the guy's feelings if the guy ended up liking her thus boosting her self esteem. If the guy's putting her over himself, then that's on him. he should see if he likes the relationship now that the possibility of going further on is cleared (or that he's going to have to wait) and if he can benefit from her then he should still hang out.

I definitely agree with her

That's an interesting perspective, but you frame it as though she were doing some arcane and terrible thing. It's actually super normal to enjoy flirtation for the sake of flirtation. Definitely not universal, but extraordinarily common. Your idea about manipulating people and toying with their feelings is completely misplaced. The reason the girl would be aware that she can't flirt anymore is because now she knows it wouldn't be harmless. Plenty of people have relationships were both parties happily flirt with the other with the expectation of it going nowhere. Flirting isn't the same as trying to get someone to fall for you, although it most certainly can have that effect. Similarly, you can definitely flirt with someone while signaling that you don't want to be with them romantically. Admittedly that makes the signals a little harder to read hence situations like this even being possible, but that doesn't mean you can pin all the blame on the signaler.

@@simone8172 It happens quite often that flirting serves the purpose of generating attention and even resources. Its mostly girls who are guilty of that but I also knew a guy who did this with a girl. As long as there is plausible deniability (saying that flirtation is mostly without any social meaning as you imply) one can then exploit the other's weakness. If you are aware what flirtatation does to the other then simply apply the golden rule and walk away.

shit

feed what?

This ^

Not necessarily, the older I get the easier it is for me to be rejected and stick around as friends. Also for me it feels kinda creepy to just get rejected and bounce, it feels like I'm saying 'youre only worth being around if you want to date me' Your path is your own, but there are others.

Guys and girls do this mate. People are generally chill with flirting with friends when they find them attractive. Both my close friend and I flirt with our other close friend because she is evidentally more physically attractive - thicc. It is nice for her as she feels desired and I like flirting with her because it's a type of banter for me. My gay mate does this practically with every guy he's friends with. Idk if sexuality has anything to do with it but no matter the gender I do this with, guy or girl, it's purely harmless flirtation. So when you've previously made flirtatious interactions out to be purely flirtatious and for fun but then someone confesses to actually liking the other person, that turns the situation off for the other person. The banter is gone and so the person who was desired will no longer get to feel that way anymore. No one is feeling entitled, it's just something that you'll miss doing. No one is crying boohoo. And since the guy had previously reciprocated that flirtatious behaviour, mutually and passively agreeing to engage in the same way, that's all on the guy because the woman in this scenario can't read the guys mind. If he wanted something for a while and never said anything, he can't blame the woman for continuing to (in her eyes) harmlessly flirt when he put on this front that he hadn't had ulterior motives/feelings.

@@kazue1187 Whatever dude, dating is cancer.

@@ewanrobertson5368 It is.